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It's difficult to definitively say which Middle Eastern or North African country grants its citizens more rights than Israel without a precise definition of "rights." However, some countries in the region, like Tunisia and Iraq, are ranked as having higher democracy scores, suggesting broader freedoms for citizens compared to some other nations. The Economist Group's Democracy Index rates Israel as a "flawed democracy," while the U.S. Department of State (.gov) reports that Israel provides for full social and political equality regardless of religious affiliation.

It's important to note that the concept of rights can be complex and encompass various aspects, including political, social, and economic freedoms. While Israel has made strides in some areas, its history and ongoing conflicts with Palestine, particularly in the occupied territories, have led to criticisms regarding the rights of Palestinians. In contrast, countries like Tunisia have faced internal challenges and societal issues, while Iraq has been grappling with the impacts of conflict and its ongoing transition.

Therefore, while some nations might score higher in democracy indices, the extent to which citizens truly experience these rights and liberties can vary greatly depending on the specific context and the individual's circumstances.

wombatwoody wrote on Jun 10^th, 2025 at 7:01am:

Why ARE there Muslims in Israel- with full citizenship and Israeli passports -  but no Jews in most Muslim Arab countries, then?

Frank wrote on Jun 10^th, 2025 at 10:04am:


Jews liked living in Arab countries so much that they had to be driven out by Zionist false flag ops:

In a key address before the Political Committee of the U.N. General Assembly on November 14, 1947 Heykal Pasha, an Egyptian delegate, stated,  A million Jews live in peace in Egypt [and other Muslim countries] and enjoy all rights of citizenship. They have no desire to emigrate to Palestine.

https://www.meforum.org/middle-east-quarterly/why-jews-fled-the-arab-countries

The Jewish virtual library confesses that Mizrahi and Sephardim Jews of Morocco enjoyed greater equality with Muslims. Many of them gained important positions in the government administration as officials and in courts of law as judges. The Jews had their own quarters in the main cities, where they had their own schools, their own synagogues, and even their own courts and judges. They comprised a large section of the middle class, who played large roles in the economy, trade, industry and educational system of the kingdom.

All this was changed with the invention of the Israeli state, especially after Zionist leaders had sent their agents to encourage and to bribe Moroccan Jews, among many other Arab Jews, to immigrate to occupied Palestine. Considering themselves Moroccan citizens of the Jewish faith, the Jews initially rejected Zionism. Yet some young Jews were seduced into enlisting into the Mossad. They were smuggled into Israel to receive military and terrorist training. They were sent back to Morocco to perpetrate terrorist attacks against both Jews and Arabs and to distribute hate inciting leaflets in order to incite conflict between the two groups. Three agents were arrested and allegedly died under torture.

Zionist crimes against Arab Jews, in particular, is an open secret very well known to Arabs as well as to Arab Jews. Zionist terror against Moroccan Jews is just one example of other terrorist attacks against well-established and peacefully coexisting Arab Jewish communities in all Arab countries; including Egypt, Lebanon, Syria and Iraq, in order to persuade them to immigrate to Israel. The case of transferring over 100 thousand Iraqi Jews from Iraq is the most well-documented open secret plotted together by the newly formed Israeli government under Ben-Gurion and Nuri as-Said; the British puppet ruler of Iraq in late 1950s. Mossad agents testified to having planted bombs within the Jewish community in order to spread hatred and fear to provoke Jewish flight from Iraq.

https://www.countercurrents.org/akleh111113.htm

And:

In his book, Ben Gurion's Scandals: How the Haganah & the Mossad Eliminated Jews, Giladi discusses the crimes committed by Zionists in their frenzy to import raw Jewish labor. Newly-vacated farmlands had to be plowed to provide food for the immigrants and the military ranks had to be filled with conscripts to defend the stolen lands. Mr. Giladi couldn't get his book published in Israel, and even in the U.S. he discovered he could do so only if he used his own money.

The Giladis, now U.S. citizens, live in New York City. By choice, they no longer hold Israeli citizenship. "I am Iraqi," he told us, "born in Iraq, my culture still Iraqi Arabic, my religion Jewish, my citizenship American."

https://www.inminds.com/jews-of-iraq.html

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In a recently published memoir, written by Israeli-British historian, Avi Shlaim, new evidence was published on a series of false-flag attacks that were carried out by Zionists who were working on behalf of the Mossad in 1950-51. The information presented adds to the evidence that counters one of Tel Aviv’s top propaganda points, which it uses to justify the murder and mass expulsion of Palestinian civilians in 1948.

Written in professor Avi Shlaim’s new memoir, entitled ‘Three Worlds: Memoirs of an Arab-Jew’, emerges new evidence that Zionist agents helped drive the mass exodus of some 125,000 Jews from Iraq. According to Shlaim’s sources, three out of five major bombing attacks against the Jewish community in Baghdad — where roughly a third of the population was Jewish — were carried out by a group of Zionists who were working on behalf of Israeli intelligence officer, Max Bineth. The Mossad agent, Max Bineth, operated out of Tehran in neighboring Iran and would later go on to help coordinate another failed series of planned false flag attacks in the Egyptian city of Cairo, which was aimed at causing tensions between Egypt and the West.

    Were Zionist agents responsible for a wave of bombings in the 1950s targeting Jewish neighbourhoods across the Arab world?

    British-Israeli historian Avi Shlaim says he’s finally found proof.

https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/zionist-agents-drove-mass-jewish-exodus-...

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No Israel is a very troubled and corrupt pretend democracy. They tend to run on extremist near despots.

Nice people in general but the leadership has stunk for many decades.

freediver wrote on Jun 12^th, 2025 at 5:51pm:


You snipped the main part: 'and are well integrated socially and economically, while Syria hasn't yet granted them citizenship but still gives them the same economic and social rights enjoyed by Syrian citizens.'

well integrated socially and economically...the same economic and social rights...

Unlike Arab citizens of Israel who face discrimination in all areas.

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Thought I made that clear. Well, it's clear to anyone who doesn't want to be argumentative and evasive.

Look above: 'Many times I pointed out the numerous laws which discriminate against Arab citizens of Israel, and that no similar racist laws exist in those other countries you mentioned.'

no similar racist laws exist in those other countries

To elaborate, 1) There's no institutionalized discrimination and apartheid in those countries like there is in Israel; and 2) Citizens of those countries are granted property rights, unlike in Israel:

"Palestinian citizens of Israel are WORSE OFF than second-class citizens = NO national rights and NO property rights." - Max Blumenthal

So your claim is bogus.

And what use is citizenship if they are denied basic rights?


To repeat:
I asked you to show what rights and freedoms Arab citizens of Israel enjoy that those in other countries in the region do not. Yet you still fail to answer.

To repeat:
And I'm still waiting for an answer to this:  Even if your (bogus) claim were true, how does it justify the existence of dozens and dozens of racist laws which discriminate against Arab citizens of Israel, in all walks of life?

freediver wrote on Jun 13^th, 2025 at 8:30am: