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Reply #15 - Jun 23^rd, 2025 at 6:07pm

Interesting link, a bit out in in some observations but generally not bad, although some of their contentions are rather funny.
I note that they are open about silencers doing nothing to reduce ballistic crack, which is heard as the projectile passes and is heard distinctly until the bullet drops below the sound barrier..

Back in the day when silencers were freely available there was not much demand for them and I can only remember one brand being on.offer, possibly most people who wanted one made their own as continued as the laws tightened.

One great potential disadvantage of their widespread use is the firing of sub-sonic ammunition [which they do silence] in backyards and the consequent danger of unintended woundings or fatalities.

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Re: Hunting for cheap free range meat
Reply #16 - Jun 23^rd, 2025 at 6:33pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2025 at 6:07pm:

Interesting link, a bit out in in some observations but generally not bad, although some of their contentions are rather funny.
I note that they are open about silencers doing nothing to reduce ballistic crack, which is heard as the projectile passes and is heard distinctly until the bullet drops below the sound barrier..

Back in the day when silencers were freely available there was not much demand for them and I can only remember one brand being on.offer, possibly most people who wanted one made their own as continued as the laws tightened.

One great potential disadvantage of their widespread use is the firing of sub-sonic ammunition [which they do silence] in backyards and the consequent danger of unintended woundings or fatalities.

Subsonics like .22 z out of a long barrel, are no louder than an air rifle anyway. Don't need silencers for them. Larger calibres, yep.

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Re: Hunting for cheap free range meat
Reply #17 - Jun 23^rd, 2025 at 7:17pm

Setanta wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2025 at 5:32pm:

Jasin wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2025 at 5:10pm:

Don't silencers build up in carbon quickly?
I don't think snipers use them in Ukraine with constant use.

They kinda hide the BANG, not the sonic boom/crack but the explosive sound and it's direction, hide the smoke and muzzle flash, I'm sure they use them. They won't carbon foul with the amount of shooting a sniper would do and can be disassembled and cleaned.

I see. Thanks.

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Jasin Gold Member Online Posts: 52775 Gender:	Re: Hunting for cheap free range meat Reply #18 - Jun 23^rd, 2025 at 7:29pm Oi! What's a peace lovin' hippy like you knowing so much about guns?
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Re: Hunting for cheap free range meat
Reply #19 - Jun 24^th, 2025 at 12:34am

Setanta wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2025 at 6:33pm:

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jun 23^rd, 2025 at 6:07pm:

Interesting link, a bit out in in some observations but generally not bad, although some of their contentions are rather funny.
I note that they are open about silencers doing nothing to reduce ballistic crack, which is heard as the projectile passes and is heard distinctly until the bullet drops below the sound barrier..

Back in the day when silencers were freely available there was not much demand for them and I can only remember one brand being on.offer, possibly most people who wanted one made their own as continued as the laws tightened.

One great potential disadvantage of their widespread use is the firing of sub-sonic ammunition [which they do silence] in backyards and the consequent danger of unintended woundings or fatalities.

Subsonics like .22 z out of a long barrel, are no louder than an air rifle anyway. Don't need silencers for them. Larger calibres, yep.

Subsonics lose a lot of power compared to supersonic

Kinetic energy is mass x velocity squared/2
Since velocity is squared the speed reduction has huge impact on energy.

Target shooters with .22lr prefer subsonics the transition from supersonic to subsonic does weird things with accuracy.

A silencer on a .308 rifle can reduce the sound of a gunshot by approximately 25-35 decibels. This reduction can bring the sound level down to a range of 130-140 dB

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Sir Eoin O Fada Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2805 New England, NSW Gender:	Re: Hunting for cheap free range meat Reply #20 - Jun 24^th, 2025 at 12:04pm ‘’Target shooters with .22lr prefer subsonics the transition from supersonic to subsonic does weird things with accuracy.’’ Never noticed that and I have fired many thousands of high velocity rounds in accuracy tesrs.
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Re: Hunting for cheap free range meat
Reply #21 - Jun 24^th, 2025 at 9:55pm

Sir Eoin O Fada wrote on Jun 24^th, 2025 at 12:04pm:

‘’Target shooters with .22lr prefer subsonics the transition from supersonic to subsonic does weird things with accuracy.’’
Never noticed that and I have fired many thousands of high velocity rounds in accuracy tesrs.

Hunting accuracy doesn't matter as much if 1-2 mm off doesn't make any difference in competitions that can be huge

Competition shooters chase that last bit for accuracy those who win gold and silver at Olympics all use subsonics with .22lr

With long range centrefire you might look at range where round stays supersonic when choosing caliber for extreme accuracy

Take note of Max SS range column

The other factor is higher BC means less drop and blown less sideways in cross wing making that round more accurate.

You might see why i prefer 7mm-08 over .308

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Sir Eoin O Fada Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2805 New England, NSW Gender:	Re: Hunting for cheap free range meat Reply #22 - Jun 25^th, 2025 at 9:40pm Which has nowt to do with suppressing noise. I don’t think that legally possessing the means to silence shots in urban areas has much going for it
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