Australian Politics Forum - Environment of nuclear weapons

Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111593 Melbourne Gender:	Environment of nuclear weapons Apr 26^th, 2025 at 11:55pm The history of the British atomic bomb program - their largest was a 3 Megaton H bomb - a monster. They used Australia for their testing. 53 minute doco:
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Reply #1 - Apr 27^th, 2025 at 6:58am

Still to this day we are threatened by nuclear weapons:

https://kyivindependent.com/shoigu-threatens-europe-with-nuclear-weapons-if-russ...

Shoigu threatens Europe with nuclear weapons if Russia is faced with 'unfriendly actions'

April 24, 2025

Russia reserves the right to use nuclear weapons if faced with 'unfriendly actions,' Russian Security Council Secretary Sergei Shoigu claimed in an interview with TASS state news agency on April 24.

Shoigu said Moscow was "closely monitoring" the "military preparations" of European countries, as they seek to ramp up defense spending and production in the face of the U.S. reducing its military presence on the continent.

"In case foreign states commit unfriendly actions that threaten the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Russian Federation, our country considers it legitimate to take symmetrical and asymmetrical measures necessary to suppress such actions and prevent their recurrence," he said.

"Nuclear deterrence is carried out against states and military coalitions that regard Russia as a potential adversary, possess weapons of mass destruction, or have significant combat capabilities of general-purpose forces," he added.

Shoigu also said that any European future peacekeeping forces deployed to Ukraine to monitor a ceasefire would also be seen by the Kremlin as a provocation.

"Sensible politicians in Europe understand that the implementation of such a scenario could lead to a direct clash between NATO and Russia and subsequently to World War III," he said.

In November 2024, Russia updated its official nuclear deterrence policy. According to the changes, the Kremlin reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in response to aggression against itself or its closest ally, Belarus, even if the attack involves non-nuclear weapons.

Russia has repeatedly made nuclear threats against Ukraine and the West since the beginning of the full-scale invasion in February 2022. The threats have failed to materialize, and Russia continues to wage its all-out war without using its nuclear arsenal.

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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111593 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Environment of nuclear weapons Reply #2 - Apr 27^th, 2025 at 4:49pm Nuclear weapons and the fallout and contamination they cause is a major threat to our environment. Monk, stick to pussy cats and little dogs.
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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111593 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Environment of nuclear weapons Reply #3 - Apr 30^th, 2025 at 5:07pm OK for all you science buffs. An excellent series on the science behind nuclear weapons:
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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111593 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Environment of nuclear weapons Reply #4 - Apr 30^th, 2025 at 5:09pm
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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111593 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Environment of nuclear weapons Reply #5 - May 1^st, 2025 at 7:45am Looks like this one is the last in that series:
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Re: Environment of nuclear weapons
Reply #6 - May 12^th, 2025 at 10:30pm

https://www.nuclear-risks.org/en/hibakusha-worldwide/maralinga.html

Maralinga, Australia
Nuclear weapons test site

Between 1952 and 1957, the United Kingdom conducted seven major and hundreds of minor nuclear tests at the Maralinga Test Site in Southern Australia. Nuclear fallout from the explosions contaminated large parts of the region and exposed many people to high levels of radioactivity. To this day, the casualties of these tests are denied recognition, medical care and compensation.

The Maralinga Test Site was closed in 1967.
Two clean-up operations failed to remove radioactive contamination,
however, and the site remains uninhabitable to this day.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18853 Gender:	Re: Environment of nuclear weapons Reply #7 - May 13^th, 2025 at 12:38pm Bobby. wrote on May 12^th, 2025 at 10:30pm: Two clean-up operations failed to remove radioactive contamination, however, and the site remains uninhabitable to this day. Is that under the LNT model or real life observations?
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Re: Environment of nuclear weapons
Reply #8 - May 13^th, 2025 at 1:22pm

lee wrote on May 13^th, 2025 at 12:38pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 12^th, 2025 at 10:30pm:

Two clean-up operations failed to remove radioactive contamination,
however, and the site remains uninhabitable to this day.

Is that under the LNT model or real life observations?

I don't know:

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The Linear No-Threshold (LNT) model is a radiation protection model that assumes a direct and proportional relationship between radiation exposure and cancer risk, with no safe threshold. It's used to estimate the risk of radiation-induced cancer, genetic mutations, and other health effects. The model implies that any amount of radiation, no matter how small, carries a risk, and the risk increases linearly with the dose.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18853 Gender:	Re: Environment of nuclear weapons Reply #9 - May 14^th, 2025 at 12:32pm Exactly right. And yet people are exposed to radiation every day, from multiple sources, the Sun, Granite and many others. But the body has this marvellous capability of repairing itself. Of course that does not been you can continue getting sunburnt every day.
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Re: Environment of nuclear weapons
Reply #10 - May 14^th, 2025 at 3:05pm

lee wrote on May 14^th, 2025 at 12:32pm:

Exactly right. And yet people are exposed to radiation every day, from multiple sources, the Sun, Granite and many others. But the body has this marvellous capability of repairing itself. Of course that does not been you can continue getting sunburnt every day.

Yes - I heard the cells can sometimes repair a small amount of destruction inside a chromosome.

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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111593 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Environment of nuclear weapons Reply #11 - Jul 8^th, 2025 at 9:44pm
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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111593 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Environment of nuclear weapons Reply #12 - Jul 9^th, 2025 at 9:46pm So lets discuss morality? What do you all think about scientists who design and build atomic bombs that could destroy the entire world? Should they be on trial for crimes against humanity?
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Bobby. Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111593 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Environment of nuclear weapons Reply #13 - Jul 9^th, 2025 at 11:11pm Best to play at 0.75 speed as he talks too fast: The horrors of the H Bomb. Who Invented the Hydrogen Bomb?
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