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Dec 27th, 2024 at 7:47pm
 
The Russian Foreign Ministry explained something very clearly.



Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s interview with Russian and international news media, Moscow, December 26, 2024

26 December 2024 - 14:00

Question:

Talks are the top priority, no question about it. Many opinions are heard coming from the diplomatic circles, experts, and other sources. To put it in plain terms, they are trying hard to see both of us make peace. The question is, though, who are we supposed to talk to in Kiev? President-elect Trump’s presumptive special envoy for Ukraine Keith Kellogg has come up with an initiative. What’s your take on the situation?


Sergey Lavrov:

Much has been said on this subject. President Putin has repeatedly addressed this issue, including during the Direct Line and during the Valdai International Discussion Club meeting before that, as well as other events.

Empty talk is not an option for us. Everything we have heard so far was rhetoric about the need to come up with some kind of a ceasefire. However, not much is done to hide the fact that the purpose of a ceasefire is to buy time and to flood Ukraine with weapons, to help it get back in shape, to carry out additional mobilisation, and so on.

Ceasefire is a road leading nowhere. We need binding legal agreements that will lay out the conditions for ensuring Russia’s security and the legitimate security interests of our neighbours. However, they should exist in an international legal context that would preclude chances of violating these agreements. These agreements must address Ukraine crisis’ root causes. The two main ones include, first, the violation of the commitments not to expand NATO to the east and the aggressive absorption by NATO of the geopolitical space all the way up to our borders. This is what they had in store for Ukraine. They keep talking about it to this day. The second root cause includes the Kiev regime’s absolutely racist actions following the coup. The extermination of everything Russian, including language, mass media, culture, and even the use of the Russian language in everyday life, was officially greenlighted and then codified into law. Of course, that includes outlawing the canonical Ukrainian Orthodox Church.

We are told that Russia is allegedly putting forward preliminary conditions. In fact, these are not preconditions, but demands to act in line with previous agreements. As it turns out, they lied to us when they assured us that NATO would not expand eastward. They lied to us when they emphasised their commitment to a settlement based on the UN Charter fully forgetting that this Charter stipulates more than the principle of territorial integrity and also includes the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples. It took the General Assembly quite a while to consider the relationship between these principles before it resolved by consensus in its wisdom that the territorial integrity of all states whose governments abide by the principle of self-determination and, therefore, represent the entire population living within the borders of the territory in question must be respected.

How can Kiev’s Nazi regime represent the interests of the residents of Crimea, Donbass, or Novorossiya, whom it declared terrorists right after the coup and launched a military “anti-terrorist operation” against them?

China and Brazil’s initiatives on Ukraine crisis put accent on the need to abide by the UN Charter. The principle of territorial integrity is mentioned from time to time. We are talking to our Chinese and Brazilian friends, as well as other countries that work with us in promoting the well-intentioned initiative that the UN Charter has many more facets to it than just the principle of territorial integrity. The principle of self-determination of peoples is no less important. If it were not for it, there would likely be issues with decolonising African and other peoples. This principle laid the international legal groundwork for decolonisation which echoed the African peoples’ unwillingness and impossibility to live under the colonisers’ rule.

By the same token, the residents of Crimea, Donbass and Novorossiya are unwilling and unable to live under the Nazi rule in Kiev. So, the principle of self-determination of the peoples is coming into force. They have one the self-determination part. The residents of Crimea did so in 2014, and Donbass and Novorossiya in 2022. These realities have been included in our Constitution.

If we want to have a serious conversation, we need to treat the principles of the UN Charter not selectively, but consistently in their entirety and interrelation without, of course, forgetting the much-beloved-by-the-West principle of respect for human rights. They did not come up with it. It is laid down in the UN Charter. The very first article of the Charter states that everyone must respect human rights regardless of gender, race, language, and religion. Russian language has been legally exterminated in Ukraine. The religion - the Canonical Ukrainian Orthodox Church - has been banned, too. So, I believe everyone who is sincerely willing to help identify ways to settle the crisis cannot ignore its root causes.


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Reply #1 - Dec 27th, 2024 at 7:50pm
 
continuation


As a reminder, in his global security initiative dedicated to all kinds of conflicts and principles underlying their resolution which he advanced in February 2023, President of the People’s Republic of China Xi Jinping highlighted in the text of this document the importance of identifying and addressing the root causes of any conflict in order to resolve it.

You mentioned Keith Kellogg who was “announced” President Trump’s special envoy for Ukraine. He recently stated that they had seen an attempt by Russia and Ukraine to reach an agreement within the framework of the Minsk process, which failed. So let’s not repeat it, he said. Of course, Mr Kellogg has yet to delve deeper into the Ukraine file, but the Minsk agreements were not an attempt, but duly signed documents guaranteed by an additional declaration made by the leaders of Russia, Ukraine, France, and Germany, which said that Euro-Atlantic security would take into account the interests of all countries, and that efforts to create a common space from the Atlantic to the Pacific would be revivified. It said a lot of things. None of what was included in that declaration, as well as in the Minsk Document itself regarding the Ukrainian regime’s obligations, has been implemented. However, that document was agreed upon, signed at the top level and unanimously approved by the UN Security Council.

Perhaps, Mr Kellogg needs to take a closer look into that. The Minsk agreements were not an attempt. It was about a UN Security Council resolution that was trampled on with the encouragement coming from the United States. President Poroshenko who signed the document on behalf of Ukraine and former German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Francois Hollande admitted two years ago that they were not going to act upon them. They needed to buy time to flood Ukraine with weapons. These same ideas remain floating in the air, but they are much less binding than the Minsk agreements. They pursue the same goal, though, which is to buy time for the Nazi regime.

As President Putin said, we are willing to consider serious and concrete proposals. It is probably too early to speculate and to guess on the coffee grounds. I hope that the Trump Administration, including Mr Kellogg, will look into the root causes of the conflict.

We remain open to consultations. If someone finds it hard to understand where we stand, even though we made it clear on many occasions, we are ready to reiterate our position. We are open to talks, if they focus on the substance and the root causes and the principles mentioned by President Vladimir Putin in his speech at the Foreign Ministry in June. Importantly, they do not constitute preliminary conditions of any sort. They represent a demand to fulfill what everyone signed up to when adopting the Charter of the United Nations.
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https://mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/1989213/
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Reply #2 - Dec 27th, 2024 at 7:56pm
 
ruzzia wants time to build up tank/APC/IFV/artillery etc etc etc stocks.

ruzzia needs to get out of Ukraine.

Ukraine is never going to seriously invade ruzzia. The opposite is obviously not true. So it does not matter if Ukraine acquires LOTS of modern, effective weapons.

ruzzia just needs to get out of Ukraine.
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Reply #3 - Dec 27th, 2024 at 8:09pm
 
Mr Lavrov was the man who denied Rusian troops were in Crimea then later said 'of course they were Russian'. He lies.

'Since February 2022, the beginning of Russian invasion, the everyday usage of Russian language in Ukraine is notably decreased from 33% in 2021 to 23% in 2022'.
Russian is a legal language in Ukraine. He lies.
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Reply #4 - Dec 27th, 2024 at 8:35pm
 
chimera wrote on Dec 27th, 2024 at 8:09pm:
Russian is a legal language in Ukraine. He lies.


In what cases can it be used in Ukraine?

For example, can it be used in education?

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Reply #5 - Dec 27th, 2024 at 9:29pm
 
Shit the pigs do—kidnap children:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukrainian-children-kidnapped-russian-soldiers-unite...

Scumbags from a scumbag nation!
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Reply #6 - Dec 28th, 2024 at 6:53am
 
RussiAnVetEraN wrote on Dec 27th, 2024 at 7:47pm:
. Russian language has been legally exterminated in Ukraine.

Ukrainian is official and Russian is actively spoken. It's a lie to say it's 'exterminated.'
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Reply #7 - Dec 28th, 2024 at 3:44pm
 
chimera wrote on Dec 28th, 2024 at 6:53am:
RussiAnVetEraN wrote on Dec 27th, 2024 at 7:47pm:
. Russian language has been legally exterminated in Ukraine.

Ukrainian is official and Russian is actively spoken. It's a lie to say it's 'exterminated.'


Of course, Russian is actively spoken.

This is because the language of people cannot be changed by law.

People who are used to speaking one language will not immediately switch to another language even because of threats from the law.

If you doubt this, try introducing the Vietnamese language in your territory and see if people start speaking it the next day, even under threat of death.
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Reply #8 - Dec 28th, 2024 at 3:47pm
 
Australia is a www.COMmunist country anyway.
...but we do get American TV Media losers here, like Monk.

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Reply #9 - Dec 28th, 2024 at 4:27pm
 
RussiAnVetEraN wrote on Dec 28th, 2024 at 3:44pm:
Of course, Russian is actively spoken.
This is because the language of people cannot be changed by law.

Ah.
Have you told Lavrov about that?
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Reply #10 - Feb 4th, 2025 at 3:37pm
 
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s article for Russia in Global Affairs magazine, «The UN Charter as the legal foundation of a multipolar world», February 4, 2025

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Former US Under Secretary of State Victoria Nuland once frankly admitted, in an interview, that “Yalta was not a good deal for us, it was not a deal we should’ve cut”. This sort of attitude goes a long way in explaining America’s international behavior; in 1945, Washington was practically forced to grudgingly agree to the postwar world order, already perceived as a hindrance by the American elite, which soon sought to revise it. The revision began with Winston Churchill’s infamous Iron Curtain speech in Fulton in 1946, which essentially declared a Cold War against the Soviet Union. Perceiving the Yalta-Potsdam agreements as a tactical concession, the United States and its allies have never followed the UN Charter’s fundamental principle of the sovereign equality of states.

The West had a fateful chance to right its course, to show prudence and foresight, when the Soviet Union collapsed along with the world socialist camp. However, selfish instincts prevailed. Addressing Congress on September 11, 1990, intoxicated by “victory in the Cold War”, US President George H.W. Bush proclaimed the advent of a new world order[3], an order that American strategists understood as complete US dominance in the international arena, as a window of opportunity to act unilaterally without any regard for the legal restrictions embedded in the UN Charter.

One manifestation of the “rules-based order” was Washington’s policy of geopolitically absorbing Eastern Europe. Russia has been forced to eliminate its explosive consequences with the special military operation.

In 2025, with Donald Trump’s Republican administration back in power, Washington’s interpretation of international processes since World War II has taken on a new dimension, as vividly described in the Senate by new Secretary of State Marco Rubio on January 15: not only is the postwar world order outdated, but it has been turned into a weapon against US interests[4]. In other words, not only the Yalta-Potsdam order is undesirable; so, too, is the “rules-based order” that had seemed to embody the selfishness and arrogance of the US-led West after the Cold War. “America first” is alarmingly similar to the Hitlerite slogan “Germany above all”, and a wager on “peace through strength” may be the final blow to diplomacy. Not to mention that such statements and ideological constructs do not show even the slightest bit of respect for Washington’s international legal obligations under the UN Charter.

However, today is not 1991 or even 2017, when the incumbent US President took the helm for the first time. Russian analysts rightly note that “there will be no return to the previous state of affairs, still sought after by the US and its allies, because demographic, economic, social, and geopolitical conditions have changed irreversibly”[5]. There is also probably truth in the prediction that eventually “the United States will understand that it should not overstretch its area of responsibility in international affairs, and will live quite harmoniously as one of the leading states, but no longer a hegemon”[6].

Multipolarity is gaining momentum and, instead of opposing it, the US could in the foreseeable future become a responsible center of power along with Russia, China, and other states in the Global South, East, North, and West. For the moment, it seems that the new US administration will be launching cowboy raids to test the existing UN-centric system’s limits and durability versus American interests. But I am sure that this administration, too, will soon understand that international reality is much more complex than the caricatures that it is free to deploy before internal American audiences or obedient geopolitical allies.
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https://mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/1994357/
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Reply #11 - Feb 4th, 2025 at 3:48pm
 
I agree.
America's rejection of British politics in it war of Independence in favour of a dependency on the archaic western politics of Rome &Athens, which Germany, France and Italy (Greece) stick to SHOULD NOT BE TRUSTED by the International Community.

Already a part of America's political being has failed in the form of Confederacy. Also in Europe, Germany politically failed with Nazism.
Now we see the failing of the Democrats (Democracy) in America, while in Europe France is failing to act as the so-called prime nation of the EU.

So it can be said with reason, that America should not be trusted with a failing archaic western political narrative.

...until it admits that it got it wrong all along and re-adopt the MODERNISING western format of British politics.

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Reply #12 - Feb 4th, 2025 at 4:03pm
 
Agree. The sun shines on the British-Australian Empire of America and India and all the little bits.  His Britannic Majesty holds sway over Slav and Chinaman, over Hun and Cossack. Death to the Tsar! Up the King!
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Reply #13 - Feb 4th, 2025 at 4:12pm
 
What's royalty got to do with politics? Huh
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Reply #14 - Feb 4th, 2025 at 4:18pm
 
'The State Opening of Parliament is a ceremonial event which formally marks the beginning of each session of the Parliament of the United Kingdom. At its core is His Majesty's "gracious speech from the throne" which is read by the monarch but written by HM Government. In the speech the monarch gives notice of forthcoming state visits, before setting out the government's legislative programme for the new parliamentary session. No business of either House of Parliament (the House of Lords or the House of Commons) can proceed until the Sovereign’s speech has been delivered.'

Conquest of Russia is the main thrust of royal power and world domination. Windsor Palace is to be located in the Kremlin over the basement dungeons holding the evil regime in chains.

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