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Re: using human shields in war
Reply #45 - May 23rd, 2024 at 9:29pm
 
John Smith wrote on May 23rd, 2024 at 8:36pm:
freediver wrote on May 23rd, 2024 at 6:39am:
John Smith wrote on May 22nd, 2024 at 9:22pm:
freediver wrote on May 22nd, 2024 at 8:54pm:
Why do you want Israeli citizens to be slaughtered by terrorists using human shields John?

Would you change your mind if they were not Jewish?


I don't want any civilians slaughtered by terrorists.  But unlike you,  I apply that rule equally to Muslims and Jews. You on the other hand only cry when it's Jewish civilians.  When it's Muslim civilians you cheer and find excuses for the terrorism


You are confused John. There is no choice in which no civilians die. Hamas has taken that choice away. You cannot stop a war, or win a war, by pouting, not matter how much effort you put into it.  The question is, whether to shoot back if they use human shields.

Do you understand that if Israel was stupid enough to follow your advice and not shoot back, it would encourage Hamas to use human shields?


There us a difference between 'no civilians die', and deliberately targeting civilians fd.
Why do you excuse terrorism?


What has that got to do with whether Israel should fight back when Hamas is hiding behind human shields? Are you saying it is the same thing?
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Re: using human shields in war
Reply #46 - May 23rd, 2024 at 9:52pm
 
freediver wrote on May 23rd, 2024 at 9:29pm:
John Smith wrote on May 23rd, 2024 at 8:36pm:
freediver wrote on May 23rd, 2024 at 6:39am:
John Smith wrote on May 22nd, 2024 at 9:22pm:
freediver wrote on May 22nd, 2024 at 8:54pm:
Why do you want Israeli citizens to be slaughtered by terrorists using human shields John?

Would you change your mind if they were not Jewish?


I don't want any civilians slaughtered by terrorists.  But unlike you,  I apply that rule equally to Muslims and Jews. You on the other hand only cry when it's Jewish civilians.  When it's Muslim civilians you cheer and find excuses for the terrorism


You are confused John. There is no choice in which no civilians die. Hamas has taken that choice away. You cannot stop a war, or win a war, by pouting, not matter how much effort you put into it.  The question is, whether to shoot back if they use human shields.

Do you understand that if Israel was stupid enough to follow your advice and not shoot back, it would encourage Hamas to use human shields?


There us a difference between 'no civilians die', and deliberately targeting civilians fd.
Why do you excuse terrorism?


What has that got to do with whether Israel should fight back when Hamas is hiding behind human shields? Are you saying it is the same thing?


Not a difficult concept to follow fd. If you aim at a terrorist and a ricochet kills a woman nearby , it might reasonably be seen as collateral damage.

If you have to blow up a hospital with a thousand women and children in it because you think their might be someone hiding in the basement,  that's the act of a terrorist.
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Re: using human shields in war
Reply #47 - May 23rd, 2024 at 10:38pm
 

@ Reply #46,


A question,    ......based upon your own premise.



John Smith,said....
Quote:

If you have to blow up a hospital with a thousand women and children in it
because you think their might be someone hiding in the basement,
that's the act of a terrorist.




Firstly,
I don't believe, that the IDF has actually destroyed an operational hospital
"with a thousand women and children in it"
.


BUT........


John Smith,

1/ Who is the      ....'someone hiding in the basement' ?

2/ Why did the      'someone'     choose,
to hide in the basement of an operational hospital ?




John Smith,

Are you inferring, that the   'someone'   is a Hamas militant ???

And again, i ask,       ....why would Hamas militants choose,
to hide in the basement of an operational hospital ?


PLEASE EXPLAIN.





John Smith,

PLEASE CONSIDER;

These Hamas militants,      are Allah's Holy Warriors,
who have sworn an oath to die,     .....fighting in Allah's Cause.

So please tell us all,
why are these militants choosing,
to hide in the basement of an operational hospital ?





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Re: using human shields in war
Reply #48 - May 24th, 2024 at 8:57am
 
John Smith wrote on May 23rd, 2024 at 9:52pm:
freediver wrote on May 23rd, 2024 at 9:29pm:
John Smith wrote on May 23rd, 2024 at 8:36pm:
freediver wrote on May 23rd, 2024 at 6:39am:
John Smith wrote on May 22nd, 2024 at 9:22pm:
freediver wrote on May 22nd, 2024 at 8:54pm:
Why do you want Israeli citizens to be slaughtered by terrorists using human shields John?

Would you change your mind if they were not Jewish?


I don't want any civilians slaughtered by terrorists.  But unlike you,  I apply that rule equally to Muslims and Jews. You on the other hand only cry when it's Jewish civilians.  When it's Muslim civilians you cheer and find excuses for the terrorism


You are confused John. There is no choice in which no civilians die. Hamas has taken that choice away. You cannot stop a war, or win a war, by pouting, not matter how much effort you put into it.  The question is, whether to shoot back if they use human shields.

Do you understand that if Israel was stupid enough to follow your advice and not shoot back, it would encourage Hamas to use human shields?


There us a difference between 'no civilians die', and deliberately targeting civilians fd.
Why do you excuse terrorism?


What has that got to do with whether Israel should fight back when Hamas is hiding behind human shields? Are you saying it is the same thing?


Not a difficult concept to follow fd. If you aim at a terrorist and a ricochet kills a woman nearby , it might reasonably be seen as collateral damage.

If you have to blow up a hospital with a thousand women and children in it because you think their might be someone hiding in the basement,  that's the act of a terrorist.


And either way, the Jews are guilty?
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Re: using human shields in war
Reply #49 - May 24th, 2024 at 8:59am
 
freediver wrote on May 24th, 2024 at 8:57am:
And either way, the Jews are guilty?


of stupidity? Only if you FD are Jewish
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Reply #50 - May 24th, 2024 at 9:04am
 
You said Jews should not be allowed to shoot back at terrorists if they are using their mothers as human shields.
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Re: using human shields in war
Reply #51 - May 24th, 2024 at 1:48pm
 
freediver wrote on May 24th, 2024 at 9:04am:
You said Jews should not be allowed to shoot back at terrorists if they are using their mothers as human shields.


see, you've proven my point
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Re: using human shields in war
Reply #52 - May 30th, 2024 at 8:40am
 
John Smith wrote on May 24th, 2024 at 1:48pm:
freediver wrote on May 24th, 2024 at 9:04am:
You said Jews should not be allowed to shoot back at terrorists if they are using their mothers as human shields.


see, you've proven my point


If a terrorist was lobbing rockets at you from behind his mother's skirt, would you volunteer to die rather than firing back? Or does this standard only apply when it is Jews being targetted?
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Reply #53 - May 30th, 2024 at 8:42am
 
freediver wrote on May 30th, 2024 at 8:40am:
John Smith wrote on May 24th, 2024 at 1:48pm:
freediver wrote on May 24th, 2024 at 9:04am:
You said Jews should not be allowed to shoot back at terrorists if they are using their mothers as human shields.


see, you've proven my point


If a terrorist was lobbing rockets at you from behind his mother's skirt, would you volunteer to die rather than firing back? Or does this standard only apply when it is Jews being targetted?


making up stupid scenarios to justify your stupidity fd? Grin Grin
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Reply #54 - May 30th, 2024 at 8:49am
 
John Smith wrote on May 30th, 2024 at 8:42am:
freediver wrote on May 30th, 2024 at 8:40am:
John Smith wrote on May 24th, 2024 at 1:48pm:
freediver wrote on May 24th, 2024 at 9:04am:
You said Jews should not be allowed to shoot back at terrorists if they are using their mothers as human shields.


see, you've proven my point


If a terrorist was lobbing rockets at you from behind his mother's skirt, would you volunteer to die rather than firing back? Or does this standard only apply when it is Jews being targetted?


making up stupid scenarios to justify your stupidity fd? Grin Grin


The scenario is real for Israel John. It is your response that is stupid.

If a terrorist was lobbing rockets at you from behind his mother's skirt, would you volunteer to die rather than firing back? Or does this standard only apply when it is Jews being targeted?
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Reply #55 - May 30th, 2024 at 9:17am
 
freediver wrote on May 30th, 2024 at 8:49am:
The scenario is real for Israel John.


only in your imagination. Which you often confuse with facts
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Reply #56 - May 30th, 2024 at 9:20am
 
John Smith wrote on May 21st, 2024 at 9:48pm:
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What if they hide behind their mothers skirts while lobbing rockets at Israel?


You don't take the shot.  No one said it was supposed to be easy.


Real or not, your response is still stupid. Incredibly stupid. Why are you happy to insist that Jews live up to your stupid standard, but are afraid to even answer the question for yourself?

If a terrorist was lobbing rockets at you from behind his mother's skirt, would you volunteer to die rather than firing back? Or does this standard only apply when it is Jews being targeted?
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Reply #57 - May 30th, 2024 at 9:30am
 
freediver wrote on May 30th, 2024 at 9:20am:
Real or not, your response is still stupid.


Not if you are sane. Perhaps thats why you struggle with it.
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Reply #58 - May 30th, 2024 at 9:38am
 
John Smith wrote on May 21st, 2024 at 9:48pm:
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What if they hide behind their mothers skirts while lobbing rockets at Israel?


You don't take the shot.  No one said it was supposed to be easy.


So this is the "sane" response?

If a terrorist was lobbing rockets at you from behind his mother's skirt, would you volunteer to die rather than firing back? Or does this standard for "sanity" only apply when it is Jews being targeted?
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Reply #59 - May 30th, 2024 at 10:31am
 
freediver wrote on May 30th, 2024 at 9:38am:
John Smith wrote on May 21st, 2024 at 9:48pm:
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What if they hide behind their mothers skirts while lobbing rockets at Israel?


You don't take the shot.  No one said it was supposed to be easy.


So this is the "sane" response?

If a terrorist was lobbing rockets at you from behind his mother's skirt, would you volunteer to die rather than firing back? Or does this standard for "sanity" only apply when it is Jews being targeted?


Why do you persist with what you admit is pure stupidity on your part? Are you trying to lose whatever credibility you have? Cause if that's the case, rest assured, you have none left to lose.
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