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Most people who are one do both pretty well. Even if they delude themselves otherwise. Most versions of anti-zionism involve another holocaust.

For example, they think spreading Nazi-esque conspiracy theories about Jews is not anti semitic because in their ignorance, they think it is true. They do this without pausing to consider even how ludicrous their conspiracies are.

Calling themself an anti-zionist is often just an exercise in turd polishing.

Here is an example of Monk mindlessly spreading propaganda on behalf of a terrorist organisation. He defended this by saying that even though it is a lie, it will become true because we know the Jews will do it anyway.

Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 18^th, 2024 at 4:59pm:


Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 21^st, 2024 at 8:14am:


If it was anyone other than the Jews, would Monk be so gullible, and go on to use his crystal ball to justify it?

Greg also:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2024 at 11:18am:


greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 28^th, 2024 at 2:38pm:


I'm pretty sure he made both of those up himself. He would instantly recognise it is racist to make up lies about any other group like this, but he thinks it is OK because they are Jews.

greggerypeccary wrote on May 1^st, 2024 at 10:36am:


So it's just a coincidence that they are Jewish and you are spreading lies about them killing all the children under 18 on behalf of a terrorist organisation?

Another example. Aussie blames Zionism for conflict in the middle east. He is an anti zionist, but insists he is not a racist. His proposed final solution is to ethnically cleanse the area of Jews. He was happy for 100 million Jews to be killed in the process. Not sure where he would get that many from. There are not that many left in the middle east.

freediver wrote on May 1^st, 2024 at 9:46am:


I am part Jewish but not zionist.

freediver wrote on May 1^st, 2024 at 9:46am:


And what did Netanyahu say in that tweet?

waggawoody wrote on May 3^rd, 2024 at 1:42am:


I'm not going to translate it for you. Perhaps you'd like to make something up? Monk will believe you.

waggawoody wrote on May 1^st, 2024 at 2:12am:


Her statement is quite in accordance with common sense.
Most Jews today are not Semites, this can easily be determined by honest and unbiased DNA testing. Most of today's Jews are Ashkenazi who are of Turkish (Khazar) origin and spread from Russia (Not from middle East) throughout Europe. It means they are not Semites. In Israel they speak Yiddish, which is nothing more than a dialect of the German language. The original Jews in the Middle East were actually Arab tribe (Semites) who in ancient times adopted Judaism as their religion, as some of the Arabs became Christians or Muslims. Today they are less than 1% of Jewish population.

The fact is that "being Jewish is a religious, not an ethnic or racial category. As with Christians or Muslims, there are Jews of different nationalities, ethnicities and races. No DNA test will tell you whether you are Jewish, Christian, Buddhist or Atheist".
If you criticize Jews, it is appropriate to be accused of being anti-Jewish, but not anti-Semitic, because today Jews are not Semites.
Anti-Semites are actually Israelis who kill Arabs (Semites).

Can you accuse someone who criticizes Chinese  of being Russophobic or Anti-Slavic???

They are not Semites because obviously they don't look like Semites
 

freediver wrote on May 10^th, 2024 at 1:30pm:


Are you suggesting that no right-wing Israeli official has called for the building of settlements in Gaza?

jill is another useful idiot

these protests are organised and funded with money from iran

she is a traitor

I have been to Egypt and Israel, Turkey, Greece and Cyprus,
Crossing form Cairo into Israel on the way to Jerusalem WAS like crossing from Desolate Africa into Switzerland. Even the grass was greener or the Jewish side.
Israel is like a tiny island of civilisation in a sea of dark, menacing superstition and stupidity that is the Muslim world around it. It is palpable, visible.

freediver wrote on May 1^st, 2024 at 9:52am:


https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2021/05/11/race-ethnicity-heritage-and-immi...

The current survey, like most Center surveys in the United States, measures race and ethnicity using categories that mirror the way the U.S. Census Bureau asks about these identities, which is necessary for statistical reasons in order to ensure that surveys are representative of U.S. adults overall.34 When given these choices, 92% of U.S. Jews describe themselves as White and non-Hispanic, while 8% say they belong to another racial or ethnic group. This includes 1% who identify as Black and non-Hispanic; 4% who identify as Hispanic; and 3% who identify with another race or ethnicity – such as Asian, American Indian or Hawaiian/Pacific Islander – or with more than one race.

So Jews are many races/ethniticies, among whom are zionists who believe they are "The Chosen People" who are entitled to "The Promised Land" (Jewish Bible/Old Testament).

See the problem? 

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The problem is neither. The problem is the ethnic cleansing of the palestinian people.

Opposing this is neither Anti-Zionism nor Anti Semitism.

It is anti atrocities.

Frank wrote on May 15^th, 2024 at 6:56pm:


Jews are not a race. Some Jews think the "Promised Land" " belongs to them because they are "The Chosen People. 

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No, it's about Israel's  oppression of Palestinians.

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It's "mirror time"....

thegreatdivide wrote on May 16^th, 2024 at 2:18pm:


Muslims are not a race. Palestinians aren't either.


They are filthy because their idiotic prophet told them that once they conquer an area it's theirs forever. Muslims still think Spain is theirs because half of it was theirs 500 years ago.

OŚWIĘCIM — Jews on their way to their imminent deaths reportedly overheard a guard at the Auschwitz-Birkenau Death Camp, later identified as Maximilian Mulka, rejecting claims that he hated Jewish people, saying, "I don't hate the Jews or anything, just Zionists."

"The Jews are fine," Mulka allegedly said as he separated potential laborers from invalids. "I don't think you should collectively judge anyone. Like, anyone. Except Zionists. They're the real problem."

Mulka's colleagues at Auschwitz-Birkenau described him as an outstanding Nazi capable of killing anyone who came under his charge, be they Gypsy, Christian, or Zionist. "There's no one better at killing Jews, um, I mean Zionists," said Guard Battalion Commander Arthur Angst.

While leading several Zionists into the showers, Mulka casually explained his nuanced perspective on the Zionist problem: "I mean, I love Jews. I have Jewish friends and stuff. But Zionism is a brain virus from the devil," he said. "I'm doing the world a favor by getting rid of them. The Zionists, I mean."

At publishing time, Allied forces raided Auschwitz-Birkenau but let Maximillian Mulka go, after he successfully argued that they needed to unite to fight the Left.