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Reply #60 - Sep 28th, 2024 at 2:19pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 28th, 2024 at 1:59pm:
Deaths, damage from Helene:

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/09/27/weather/hurricane-helene-florida

Not 4" but 4' of flooding.


Now flooding has a lot to do with runoff. Runoff is impacted by poor drainage. And subsidence. But not Climate. Roll Eyes

Ft Myers and Naples have subsidence problems.
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Reply #61 - Dec 11th, 2024 at 1:03pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 10th, 2024 at 12:00am:
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'An existential threat affecting billions'

Three-quarters of Earth's land became permanently drier in last 3 decades


Climate change is causing unprecedented drying across the Earth — and five billion people could be affected by 2100, a new UN report has warned.


Climate change has made three-quarters of the Earth's land permanently drier in the last three decades, a landmark United Nations (UN) report has warned.

77.6% of Earth's land has become drier in the last three decades compared to the 30 years prior, with drylands expanding by an area larger than India to cover 40.6% of the land on Earth, except for Antarctica.

And the findings, released in a new report by the UN Convention to Combat Desertification ((UNCCD), warn that if the trend continues, up to five billion people could live in drylands by the century's end — causing soils to deplete, water resources to dwindle, and vital ecosystems to collapse.

"For the first time, the aridity crisis has been documented with scientific clarity, revealing an existential threat affecting billions around the globe," Ibrahim Thiaw, the UNCCD executive secretary, said in a statement. "Droughts end. When an area's climate becomes drier, however, the ability to return to previous conditions is lost. The drier climates now affecting vast lands across the globe will not return to how they were and this change is redefining life on Earth."


https://www.livescience.com/planet-earth/climate-change/an-existential-threat-af...

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https://www.livescience.com/planet-earth/climate-change/precipitation-the-source...


Maybe I could have posted this in Environment but why change a trend of discussing anything but the environment there? Besides which the mentally deficient Mod there has me banned on some bullshit reason.


So let's have a look. By the UN, not scientists.

Ibrahim Thiaw, the UNCCD executive secretary - So where did he get his "data"? "n high greenhouse gas emissions scenarios, expanding drylands are forecast across the Midwestern United States, central Mexico, northern Venezuela, north-eastern Brazil, south-eastern Argentina, the entire Mediterranean Region, the Black Sea coast, large parts of southern Africa, and southern Australia."

Oh dear.

Barron Orr - offers no proof of his claims.

The second link has ONE hit fro desertification, but curiously offers no link to a study.

https://watercommission.org/

Poor JM the fact free zone. Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #62 - Dec 19th, 2024 at 12:14pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 18th, 2024 at 7:23pm:
Another post that could have been made in the [NotThe]Environment board BUT the little puke has me banned for a bullshit reason.

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Farming has always been gambling with dirt – but the odds are getting longer


Rainfall patterns are changing, crops are ripening earlier and the normal rhythms of farming have fallen off – exactly as climate scientists warned


The BoM/CSIRO State of the Climate 2024 Report echoes this. Southern Australis is drying, northern Australia is getting wetter. And this year is the hottest year on record.



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In the last 30 years though, summer has meant harvest and the battle to get the crop off in a reasonable state for the best possible price. It has meant never knowing whether the wheat would be in the bin before Christmas Day.

It used to be a fairly good rule of thumb that the canola was ready in the last week of November and the wheat was ready to strip in the first week of December. Life is not without hurdles and ours always include summer storms, machinery breakdowns and labour challenges, but those dates were fairly constant.

Over the years, the crops have ripened faster. This year, the canola was early and even the wheat was ready in November. That early start was interrupted by some of the biggest rainfalls of 2024, close to 110mm or more than four inches in the old money falling in a week.


The lower the rainfall is in a region the more irregular rainfall becomes—longer dry stretches, fiercer downpours. I learned this in third year high school, guess the little puke ruining Environment dropped out before learning that, not that he ever learned much.

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I had pegged 2024 as a dry year but, after adding up the rainfall, it turns out the annual fall was pretty close to the average for this district. It just fell in summer more than winter and in greater extremes, a bit like climate scientists had predicted.


Wheat, canola etc are not grown in summer.

"Key statistics

    369 million hectares of agricultural land, down 5% from 2020-21
    36 million tonnes of wheat produced, up 14%
    7 million tonnes of canola production, up 43%
    70 million sheep and lambs on farms at 30 June 2022, up 3%
    22 million beef cattle at 30 June 2022, up 1%


https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/industry/agriculture/agricultural-commodities-australia/latest-release


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I don’t mean to be glib but this year has been mostly hotter and wetter except where it has been drier, according to the Bureau of Meteorology.

We started with an El Niño declared from September 2023 which caused a stampede of stock headed for the saleyards at a lower price as the summer approached. Prepare for drought, they cried.

I was one of them. There is nothing worse than feeding animals through a drought. And certainly south-western Victoria is in trouble with drought, as is South Australia. Elsewhere, it rained. And rained. There were floods throughout the country, including in parts of Western Australia which received half a year’s rainfall in 24 hours.

I had to laugh at the rather guarded wisdom from Seth Westra, a professor of hydrology and climate risk at the University of Adelaide.

“If you follow the advice, on average, you’ll probably be ahead,” he told the Rural Network in January. “But there’ll be times when you’re not. That’s where trying to hedge against different eventualities is really the way to manage.”


Heads I win, tails you lose.

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The dry weather amped up the protein in crops like wheat, enough to make the most sluggish sourdough bloom. Apparently, there was a silver lining on those dry skies. Higher protein wheat means a high price for the farmer.

Then, late in our harvest, that aforementioned rain fell. A wet crop cannot be harvested until it dries out. It also often loses quality, and therefore price premium, fast.

Modern cropping requires big investments in seed, fertiliser, sprays and labour. Those costs have been rising as farmers have pushed for greater production, to boost incomes and stay ahead of the climate change.


That big investment is why ruzzians will be hungry next year.

[quote]Throwing a high investment at raising a food crop becomes an even riskier venture in an ever-more unpredictable climate. If you win the bet, you can win big. If you lose, not only do you forgo a potential income, but you have lost the money already spent.

While more than half of Australia’s landmass is managed by farmers, most of that is used for grazing because much of the country is not suitable for cropping. Only one-fifth of Australian farms are classified as broadacre cropping farms. At the same time, there is rising demand for protein around the world.

Though the total number of farm businesses has been falling across all enterprises over the longer term, it is no surprise that the number of specialist beef producers increased in all states except South Australia and the Northern Territory.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/dec/17/farming-has-always-been-g...

So the Guardian can't do simple research. Who knew? That's what comes of not going to data.

Poor JM the Guardian’s true friend. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #63 - Dec 19th, 2024 at 12:24pm
 
Of course longer growing seasons are better than shorter growing seasons, but JM won't have a bar of that.

So tell us about the shorter growing seasons during the LIA, JM. Wink
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Reply #64 - Dec 19th, 2024 at 2:34pm
 
lee wrote on Dec 19th, 2024 at 12:24pm:
Of course longer growing seasons are better than shorter growing seasons, but JM won't have a bar of that.

So tell us about the shorter growing seasons during the LIA, JM. Wink



Monk can't post here - he's banned:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1612043899/15#15
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Reply #65 - Dec 22nd, 2024 at 12:40pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 22nd, 2024 at 9:29am:
Seems lees had to comment on the above. Bit OCD but that is lees. He should get psych help.



Poor JM, just can't seem to get the idea of refutation, rather than drive-by's.
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Reply #66 - Dec 26th, 2024 at 5:26pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 26th, 2024 at 4:25pm:
Record high heat for two years and we get a bushfire. Amazing thing is only one bushfire happening now.

AGW deniers share responsibility for trying to stop action against AGW.


Wow. Record high heat for two years? Just how much is this record worth ? According to UAH the warmest was August 2024, with the anomaly +1.75C above 1979. But it is the "hot" this December wot dunnit. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

"The following table lists various regional Version 6.1 LT departures from the 30-year (1991-2020) average for the last 23 months (record highs are in red). Note the tropics have cooled by 0.72 deg. C in the last 8 months, consistent with the onset of La Nina conditions."
YEAR      MO      GLOBE      NHEM.      SHEM.      TROPIC      USA48      ARCTIC      AUST
2023      Jan      -0.06      +0.07      -0.19        -0.41          +0.14      -0.10        -0.45
2023      Feb      +0.07      +0.13      +0.01      -0.13       +0.64      -0.26      +0.11
2023      Mar      +0.18      +0.22      +0.14      -0.17      -1.36      +0.15      +0.58
2023      Apr      +0.12      +0.04      +0.20      -0.09      -0.40      +0.47      +0.41
2023      May      +0.28      +0.16      +0.41      +0.32      +0.37      +0.52      +0.10
2023      June      +0.30      +0.33      +0.28      +0.51      -0.55      +0.29      +0.20
2023      July      +0.56      +0.59      +0.54      +0.83      +0.28      +0.79      +1.42
2023      Aug      +0.61      +0.77      +0.45      +0.78      +0.71      +1.49      +1.30
2023      Sep      +0.80      +0.84      +0.76      +0.82      +0.25      +1.11      +1.17
2023      Oct      +0.79      +0.85      +0.72      +0.85      +0.83      +0.81      +0.57
2023      Nov      +0.77      +0.87      +0.67      +0.87      +0.50      +1.08      +0.29
2023      Dec      +0.75      +0.92      +0.57      +1.01      +1.22      +0.31      +0.70
2024      Jan      +0.80      +1.02      +0.58      +1.20      -0.19      +0.40      +1.12
2024      Feb      +0.88      +0.95      +0.81      +1.17      +1.31      +0.86      +1.16
2024      Mar      +0.88      +0.96      +0.80      +1.26      +0.22      +1.05      +1.34
2024      Apr      +0.94      +1.12      +0.77      +1.15      +0.86      +0.88      +0.54
2024      May      +0.78      +0.77      +0.78      +1.20      +0.05      +0.22      +0.53
2024      June      +0.69      +0.78      +0.60      +0.85      +1.37      +0.64      +0.91
2024      July      +0.74      +0.86      +0.62      +0.97      +0.44      +0.56      -0.06
2024      Aug      +0.76      +0.82      +0.70      +0.75      +0.41      +0.88      +1.75
2024      Sep      +0.81      +1.04      +0.58      +0.82      +1.32      +1.48      +0.98
2024      Oct      +0.75      +0.89      +0.61      +0.64      +1.90      +0.81      +1.09
2024      Nov      +0.64      +0.88      +0.41      +0.54      +1.12      +0.79      +1.00


https://www.drroyspencer.com/2024/12/uah-v6-1-global-temperature-update-for-nove...
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Reply #67 - Jan 2nd, 2025 at 12:48pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 10:36pm:
Scientists counted 49 ways Australia is destroying the ecosystems we hold dear – but there is hope


I bet they didn't include ripping up the ecological system to plant solar and wind farms.  Saving the environment by destroying it. Cry

Nope. No mention of renewables.
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Reply #68 - Jan 2nd, 2025 at 12:53pm
 
lee wrote on Jan 2nd, 2025 at 12:48pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 1st, 2025 at 10:36pm:
Scientists counted 49 ways Australia is destroying the ecosystems we hold dear – but there is hope


I bet they didn't include ripping up the ecological system to plant solar and wind farms.  Saving the environment by destroying it. Cry

Nope. No mention of renewables.



Monk doesn't know.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #69 - Jan 4th, 2025 at 6:28pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 4th, 2025 at 4:59pm:


Poor JM. Averages are just  that. Some higher some lower. Was it daytime or nighttime temperatures that caused the average to be warmer?

BTW - Since scientists don't know what caused the warmer temperatures, why are you so sure it is CO2 wotdunnit. As per your "pointy end of AGW" for November. Wink
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Reply #70 - Jan 4th, 2025 at 6:59pm
 
Monk's weather report consists of him poking his finger up his bum to feel which direction the wind is blowing.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #71 - Jan 8th, 2025 at 12:12pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 8th, 2025 at 6:23am:
Heh, some AGW deniers that comment in the UAH6 comments section are desperate for a La Niña to end the two-year spike of record high global temperatures.



But it was only days ago that poor JM conceded =

Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 4th, 2025 at 4:19pm:
Finally the extreme heat seems to be giving way to cooler conditions.

Scientists do not know why there was such a long period of extreme heat.


Now it is AGW. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #72 - Jan 8th, 2025 at 6:42pm
 
Monk has no idea about climate or anything, except how to copy, steal and troll other boards and topics in his fake Board.
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Reply #73 - Jan 9th, 2025 at 4:31pm
 
[quote author=Jovial_Abbott link=1736370962/0#0 date=1736370962]This is in the NH winter.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/01/08/us/california-wildfire-la-palisades

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Scramble to Fight Fires With Strained Resources


Nothing in the story about Santa Ana winds, sometimes known as Devil's wind, which causes drying, and no, the lowlands of California are not snow covered. Grasses are known as 1 hour fuel fires.

https://www.noble.org/regenerative-agriculture/prescribed-burn/fuel-loading-fuel...
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Reply #74 - Jan 11th, 2025 at 8:50pm
 
Monk wrote in his MRB -

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Earth breaches 1.5 °C climate limit for the first time: what does it mean?


The threshold has been exceeded for only one year so far, but humanity is nearing the end of what many thought was a ‘safe zone’ as climate change worsens.


It’s official: Earth’s average temperature climbed more than 1.5 °C above pre-industrial levels for the first time in 2024. Climate scientists announced the breach today, signalling that the world has failed, at least temporarily, to avoid crossing the threshold set by governments to avert the worst impacts of global warming. For the time being, it’s just one metric and one year, but researchers say that it nonetheless serves as a stark reminder that the world is moving into dangerous territory — perhaps more quickly than previously thought.


Look at the UAH chart to end Dec 2024:
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last year, Earth’s temperature hit 1.55 °C above the average for 1850–1900 — considered to be a ‘pre-industrial’ period before humans began pouring large amounts of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. Unexpectedly, the 2024 figure also shows a statistically significant increase over that for 2023, when heat records were set. Climate scientists are investigating whether the two-year temperature surge is a blip or whether it marks a change in Earth’s climate system that means global warming is speeding up.


https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-00010-9

It may be that the extreme heat is retreating a bit, but AGW is still at work. Why temperatures spiked so much for so long is still not known. Temperatures, once the spike in temperatures is over temperatures will resume their over 0.2°C per decade climb and sooner or later we will be back, then past, the temperatures at the top of the spike.

This could have been posted in “Environment” but the incompetent Mod of that unhappy board has me permanently banned on a lie of abuse. He should be made Mod of Toolshed, he can just about manage that.
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