Looking for advanced trees.
European plums available:
Luisa
Primetime
Black Amber
Robe de Sargent
Santa Rosa
Louisa—Japanese plum
Quote:This newly released self-fertile, yellow fleshed plum is exceptionally sweet and juicy. Distinctive elongated-heart shape. Having some disease resistance makes this cultivar easier to grow organically.
https://www.flemings.com.au/nurseries/luisa-pbr-plum.html Quote:PLUM Luisa
Prunus spp
One of NZ's most popular home garden plums, due to it's fantastic flavour, texture and productivity. Luisa plums are distinctly shaped with a tear drop shape, with yellow skin and a pretty pink blush. The fruit is sweet, firm textured and juicy. A self fertile variety so will produce a heavy crop without cross pollination from another plum variety. Ripens in January/February.
Take care when eating around the stone area of the fruit as it can have a small piece of stone/hard flesh.
Low Chill
Self Fertile
Yellow Flesh
https://www.waimeanurseries.co.nz/home-gardeners/products/fruit-trees/plums/plum...This is not a low chill area! Not necessarily a huge problem but will leave Luisa out of consideration for now.
Primetime
Something about the name, too modern and commercial?
Quote:Plum Primetime
Bagged Tree
Plum Primetime is a medium to large good flavoured plum. Skin is red to dark blue when fully mature with prominent lenticels. Flesh is yellow with some pinky-red colouration diffused throughout and becomes more red as fruit matures. Moderate juice. Firm, meaty flesh.
Tree grows to approximately 4 x 4 metres.
Pollination: Possibly ‘Santa Rosa’.
https://www.gardenexpress.com.au/product/plum-primetime/ Quote:Plum Prime Time 305mm Pot
Dawsons Garden World
https://www.dawsonsgardenworld.com.au › product
primetime plum from www.dawsonsgardenworld.com.au
A Japanese plum. Red skin with yellow flesh. Some pinky-red colouring through the flesh, becoming more red with maturity. Good flavoured clingstone variety.
All descriptions are somewhat half hearted? “Good” just comes across as wishy washy. “Clingstone” also not appealing, freestone more better.
Black Amber
Quote:Prunus salicina 'Black Amber' Japanese Plum - One of the best Japanese plums. Bred by J.H.Weinerberger from Fresno, California (USA), in 1980. It is a midseason, heavy bearing plum producing medium to large, round or slightly flattened fruit of dark purple blue colour. The taste is very good, complex, balanced sweet and acid with dominant sweetness. The flesh is juicy, amber yellow and red closer to the stone, not adhered.
Pollination Group: cross pollinate with another Japanese plum.
Uses: eating, cooking
Harvest: February
https://www.heritagefruittrees.com.au/black-amber-japanese-plum/Sounding good! NOT clingstone, ‘very good’ taste etc. Crosspollination something to be looked at later tho usually they say use another japanese plum so not a wide range of blossoming times it seems.
Heritage Fruit Trees again:
Quote: partially self-fertile this variety will produce a better yield if planted with a pollination companion such as Plum 'Victoria'.
Victoria not listed as available in advanced stock. Not a real problem, don’t want 200Kg of plums anyway!
Robe de Sargent:
A European plum this one.
Quote:Robe de Sergeant (sometimes spelt Robe de Sergent or Robe de Sargent) is one of the best tasting prune plums, very sweet and juicy. Fruit is medium sized roundish oval with deep purple to blackish colour and a thick grey bloom. The flesh is freestone, greenish-yellow, juicy, very sweet and highly flavoured and can be used for fresh fruit, drying and jam.
Its habit is naturally upright, small and productive with willowing branches when laden with fruit.
Between 1880 and 1907 a young Frenchman, Felix Gillet, imported many new varieties of fruit and nut trees including Robe de Sergeant from Europe to California. Trees in that region now well over 100 years old are said to continue to this day to bear crops and who no signs of decline.
Pollination Group: Cross pollinate with another European plum
Uses: drying, eating
Harvest: mid-late summer
Sounds
promising!
Damn, REALLY liking this plum BUT want to make SURE I can get the right tree to pollinate it. Green Gage and Coe’s Golden Drop are both fantastic plums BUT they do NOT pollinate each other, Coe blossoming too late so it is EITHER Green Gage OR Coe’s Golden Drop (both of these are fantastic plums no use if they can’t pollinate each other. Info on plum pollination is a LOT harder to look up than for apples and pears!
Santa Rosa:
Quote:Santa Rosa
Santa Rosa is the a red fleshed Japanese plum, with medium sized fruit and a deep red skin. A prolific bearer, self fertile and reliably pollinates other japanese plums. Widespread popular variety grown commercially, Bred by Luther Burbank in around 1906 USA. Low Chill.
https://www.woodbridgefruittrees.com.au/plums/270-santa-rosa.htmlNo raves about the flavor here, note? I prefer more heritage varieties, bit more effort to grow but the reward is there in superb flavor!
One
winner here, Robe de Sargent!
Black Amber also good bout would need
another Japanese plum to pollinate it!
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