Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2024 at 7:30pm:


That is as idiotic as we ha0vce come to expect from you, Bbbwian.
Why on earth would Israel create an organisation that wants to destroy it when there are already lots of such organisationand countries.

Israeli authorities in the 1970s and 1980s showed indifference to al-Mujama al-Islamiya. They viewed it as a religious cause that was significantly less militant against Israel than Fatah and the Palestine Liberation Organization; many also believed that the infighting between Islamist organizations and the PLO would lead to the latter's weakening.[49][95][96][97][98] Thus, the Israeli government did not intervene in fights between PLO and Islamist forces.[49] Israeli officials disagree on how much governmental indifference (or even support) of these disputes led to the rise of Islamism in Palestine. Some, such as Arieh Spitzen, have argued that "even if Israel had tried to stop the Islamists sooner, he doubts it could have done much to curb political Islam, a movement that was spreading across the Muslim world." Others, including Israel's religious affairs official in Gaza, Avner Cohen, believed that the indifference to the situation fueled Islamism's rise, stating it was "Israel's creation" and failure.[49] Others attribute the rise of the group to state sponsors, including Iran.[49] In 2018, The Intercept published an article claiming that "Israeli officials admit they helped start the group".

The long and the short of it is that you, mothra, thicko, parrot et al simply do not think that Israel is a legitimate country and that it has the right to defend itself against Palestinian jihadis or retailate and eliminate the perpetrators of the attacks on it, namely Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the rest of the Muslims who have sworn to wipe it off the map.
Hamas does not accept any 2 state solution, in any form. They are not interested in Palestinian nation building or welfare. A big chunk, a billion dollars, of the international aid they receive is paid in stipends to the families of 'martyrs' killed while attacking Israel. Are those 'martyr' civilians?
You cannot negotiate with fanatics like Hamas - or idiots like you blinkered lot.

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2024 at 8:15pm:



So where's the 'Israel setting up Hamas in the first place', cockwomble.

Not interfering in groups of Israel's grusome jihadi enemies murdering each other Is now 'Israel setting up Hamas' in your befogged, bewildered "mind".