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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 15150 Gender:	Re: Does “Christian Atheism” Really Exist? Reply #195 - Oct 12^th, 2023 at 7:01pm Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 6:39pm: Not the scribblings of a set of cutists. Some real historical record. No sign of any order by Pontius Pilate re “Jesus.” No sign of any census requiring J&M to head for Bethlehem. Would you agree that Paul existed?
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Re: Does “Christian Atheism” Really Exist?
Reply #196 - Oct 12^th, 2023 at 8:24pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 6:42pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 3:17pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 3:01pm:

So no evidence.

Given Paul, James and all the apostles accept that Jesus died by crucifixion, it lends credence to the story.

Crucifixion was practised in the region by the Romans alone, so it's certain that if the crucifixion happened, then the Romans carried it out.

Crucifixion was the worst possible form of punishment and humiliation and was reserved, almost exclusively, for insurrection against Rome.

Meister : Incorrect. The Greeks and Persians initiated and maintained the dreadful practice of crucifixion. The Romans merely copied them. If anything the Romans STOPPED crucifixions (Emperor Constantine the Great was responsible for abolishing them).

Greg : Could you behave? I feel like I’m some bloody school teacher lol.

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Re: Does “Christian Atheism” Really Exist?
Reply #197 - Oct 12^th, 2023 at 8:42pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 8:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 6:42pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 3:17pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 3:01pm:

So no evidence.

Given Paul, James and all the apostles accept that Jesus died by crucifixion, it lends credence to the story.

Crucifixion was practised in the region by the Romans alone, so it's certain that if the crucifixion happened, then the Romans carried it out.

Crucifixion was the worst possible form of punishment and humiliation and was reserved, almost exclusively, for insurrection against Rome.

Meister : Incorrect. The Greeks and Persians initiated and maintained the dreadful practice of crucifixion. The Romans merely copied them. If anything the Romans STOPPED crucifixions (Emperor Constantine the Great was responsible for abolishing them).

In the 1st century, the Romans were the only governing people practising crucifixion in the region. Constantine was born over 200 years after the early to mid 1st century.

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Re: Does “Christian Atheism” Really Exist?
Reply #198 - Oct 12^th, 2023 at 9:00pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 7:01pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 6:39pm:

Not the scribblings of a set of cutists. Some real historical record.

No sign of any order by Pontius Pilate re “Jesus.”

No sign of any census requiring J&M to head for Bethlehem.

Would you agree that Paul existed?

Haven’t read the bible for like an eternity. Paul is the guy JC appeared to in a vision?

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Reply #199 - Oct 12^th, 2023 at 9:01pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 6:42pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 3:17pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 3:01pm:

So no evidence.

Given Paul, James and all the apostles accept that Jesus died by crucifixion, it lends credence to the story.

Crucifixion was practised in the region by the Romans alone, so it's certain that if the crucifixion happened, then the Romans carried it out.

Crucifixion was the worst possible form of punishment and humiliation and was reserved, almost exclusively, for insurrection against Rome.

That is a hilarious sketch. Incontinentia Buttocks.

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Reply #200 - Oct 12^th, 2023 at 10:08pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 8:42pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 8:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 6:42pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 3:17pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 3:01pm:

So no evidence.

Given Paul, James and all the apostles accept that Jesus died by crucifixion, it lends credence to the story.

Crucifixion was practised in the region by the Romans alone, so it's certain that if the crucifixion happened, then the Romans carried it out.

Crucifixion was the worst possible form of punishment and humiliation and was reserved, almost exclusively, for insurrection against Rome.

Meister : Incorrect. The Greeks and Persians initiated and maintained the dreadful practice of crucifixion. The Romans merely copied them. If anything the Romans STOPPED crucifixions (Emperor Constantine the Great was responsible for abolishing them).

In the 1st century, the Romans were the only governing people practising crucifixion in the region. Constantine was born over 200 years after the early to mid 1st century.

That’s not what you stated earlier. Next time be specific or else I’ll come after you again. And you will not enjoy it either. 😐

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Does “Christian Atheism” Really Exist? Reply #201 - Oct 12^th, 2023 at 10:10pm Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 4:26pm: So back to the topic - Christian Atheism - we go. Meister are you a Christian Atheist? You never did come back to me on that. Are you ashamed or embarrassed to say?
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Re: Does “Christian Atheism” Really Exist?
Reply #202 - Oct 12^th, 2023 at 11:57pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:00pm:

...It’s like arguing with a 7 yr old. A very dumb 7 yr old. God I hope I never live to be his age (80) AND be as dumb as Dumbarse Drunk.

This is really a pretty poor response Lisa.

I can understand that modern science has backed
religionists of all colours into an inescapable corner
with nowhere to go, but desperate, puerile insults
do absolutely nothing to reinforce their apparent
claims that a man known as "Jesus" actually existed,
or that atheism could not or does not exist without
a cause—that is, that God or gods could be legitimately
claimed to exist.

Of course I was only joking about you posting a photo
of Jesus, but I was just making the point—contrary to
what you purported—that Frank Zindler may not even
exist: He obviously does, as seen by thousands of
people in 2023. Easily provable. Not so "Jesus".

And of course there is no such viable, corporeal, tangible
or unambiguous evidence that a man known as "Jesus"
ever existed—specifically as recorded in the bible. Even
Mathew, Mark, Luke, John and Paul never actually saw
or spoke with "Jesus" before he was allegedly executed.

Final question Lisa: Do you accept that atheism exists
as defined by atheists? Or, if not, then why not?

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Does “Christian Atheism” Really Exist? Reply #203 - Oct 13^th, 2023 at 5:30am Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 4:26pm: So back to the topic - Christian Atheism - we go. Meister are you a Christian Atheist? You never did come back to me on that. Are you ashamed or embarrassed to say?
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Re: Does “Christian Atheism” Really Exist?
Reply #204 - Oct 13^th, 2023 at 5:53am

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 10:08pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 8:42pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 8:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 6:42pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 3:17pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 3:01pm:

So no evidence.

Given Paul, James and all the apostles accept that Jesus died by crucifixion, it lends credence to the story.

Crucifixion was practised in the region by the Romans alone, so it's certain that if the crucifixion happened, then the Romans carried it out.

Crucifixion was the worst possible form of punishment and humiliation and was reserved, almost exclusively, for insurrection against Rome.

Meister : Incorrect. The Greeks and Persians initiated and maintained the dreadful practice of crucifixion. The Romans merely copied them. If anything the Romans STOPPED crucifixions (Emperor Constantine the Great was responsible for abolishing them).

In the 1st century, the Romans were the only governing people practising crucifixion in the region. Constantine was born over 200 years after the early to mid 1st century.

That’s not what you stated earlier. Next time be specific or else I’ll come after you again. And you will not enjoy it either. 😐

Aww what a wanker

An autistic mini-tant.

Hubcaps stopped spinning?

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Does “Christian Atheism” Really Exist? Reply #205 - Oct 13^th, 2023 at 6:00am Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 4:26pm: So back to the topic - Christian Atheism - we go. Meister are you a Christian Atheist? You never did come back to me on that. Are you ashamed or embarrassed to say?
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Online Dogs not cats! Posts: 49254 Gender:	Re: Does “Christian Atheism” Really Exist? Reply #206 - Oct 13^th, 2023 at 6:01am Yeah, who does not know Constantine lived well after the time JC is said to have lived? A dumbarse like Larry.
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Jovial Monk Gold Member Online Dogs not cats! Posts: 49254 Gender:	Re: Does “Christian Atheism” Really Exist? Reply #207 - Oct 13^th, 2023 at 6:02am The other question go be answered: when JC is mentioned we are talking of an ordinary half-crazy preacher, right, not the “son of god.”
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Does “Christian Atheism” Really Exist? Reply #208 - Oct 13^th, 2023 at 6:10am Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 4:26pm: So back to the topic - Christian Atheism - we go. Meister are you a Christian Atheist? You never did come back to me on that. Are you ashamed or embarrassed to say?
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Re: Does “Christian Atheism” Really Exist?
Reply #209 - Oct 13^th, 2023 at 6:11am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 8:42pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 8:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 6:42pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 3:17pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 3:01pm:

So no evidence.

Given Paul, James and all the apostles accept that Jesus died by crucifixion, it lends credence to the story.

Crucifixion was practised in the region by the Romans alone, so it's certain that if the crucifixion happened, then the Romans carried it out.

Crucifixion was the worst possible form of punishment and humiliation and was reserved, almost exclusively, for insurrection against Rome.

Meister : Incorrect. The Greeks and Persians initiated and maintained the dreadful practice of crucifixion. The Romans merely copied them. If anything the Romans STOPPED crucifixions (Emperor Constantine the Great was responsible for abolishing them).

In the 1st century, the Romans were the only governing people practising crucifixion in the region. Constantine was born over 200 years after the early to mid 1st century.

That’s not what you stated earlier. Next time be specific or else I’ll come after you again. And you will not enjoy it either. 😐

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