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Reply #15 - Aug 10th, 2023 at 10:24pm  
Bobby. wrote on Aug 10th, 2023 at 9:46pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 10th, 2023 at 9:41pm:
And it is designed to operate close to China's shores in the South China Sea, Bobby.  It lacks training and experience to undertake operations elsewhere, further away from China.  We are over 4,500 Km from the nearest part of the Chinese mainland.  No one has attempted an operation of such a distance.  China would need to conquer several other countries first before it contemplated an operation against Australia, I am sure the Philippines and Indonesia might get a little upset at that happening.  Run along, little man, hide under your bridge Troll.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


get real comrade Brian,
Australia wouldn't stand a chance against the Chinese super power.


You have failed to read and understand what I have said, Bobby.  Try again.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #16 - Aug 10th, 2023 at 10:26pm  
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 10th, 2023 at 10:24pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 10th, 2023 at 9:46pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 10th, 2023 at 9:41pm:
And it is designed to operate close to China's shores in the South China Sea, Bobby.  It lacks training and experience to undertake operations elsewhere, further away from China.  We are over 4,500 Km from the nearest part of the Chinese mainland.  No one has attempted an operation of such a distance.  China would need to conquer several other countries first before it contemplated an operation against Australia, I am sure the Philippines and Indonesia might get a little upset at that happening.  Run along, little man, hide under your bridge Troll.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


get real comrade Brian,
Australia wouldn't stand a chance against the Chinese super power.


You have failed to read and understand what I have said, Bobby.  Try again.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Brian,
China has more people living in some cities than
we have on this entire continent.  tsk tsk tsk   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: The submarine fiasco continues.
Reply #17 - Aug 11th, 2023 at 12:53pm  
Bobby. wrote on Aug 10th, 2023 at 10:26pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 10th, 2023 at 10:24pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 10th, 2023 at 9:46pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 10th, 2023 at 9:41pm:
And it is designed to operate close to China's shores in the South China Sea, Bobby.  It lacks training and experience to undertake operations elsewhere, further away from China.  We are over 4,500 Km from the nearest part of the Chinese mainland.  No one has attempted an operation of such a distance.  China would need to conquer several other countries first before it contemplated an operation against Australia, I am sure the Philippines and Indonesia might get a little upset at that happening.  Run along, little man, hide under your bridge Troll.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


get real comrade Brian,
Australia wouldn't stand a chance against the Chinese super power.


You have failed to read and understand what I have said, Bobby.  Try again.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Brian,
China has more people living in some cities than
we have on this entire continent.  tsk tsk tsk   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


They live in China.  We live in Australia.  There is 4,500 km between the two.  It consists mainly of ocean.  When we see a Chinese migration fleet hove over the horizon we should start to worry.  Until then, you can keep getting your knickers in a twist, Bobby.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #18 - Aug 11th, 2023 at 1:09pm  
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 11th, 2023 at 12:53pm:
They live in China.  We live in Australia.  There is 4,500 km between the two.  It consists mainly of ocean.  When we see a Chinese migration fleet hove over the horizon we should start to worry.  Until then, you can keep getting your knickers in a twist, Bobby.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



My grandmother often used to say -

if the Chinese could get away with it -
they'd invade us tomorrow.
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Reply #19 - Aug 11th, 2023 at 2:55pm  
Bobby. wrote on Aug 11th, 2023 at 1:09pm:
My grandmother often used to say -

if the Chinese could get away with it -
they'd invade us tomorrow.


They live in China.  We live in Australia.  There is 4,500 km between the two.  It consists mainly of ocean.  When we see a Chinese migration fleet hove over the horizon we should start to worry.  Until then, you can keep getting your knickers in a twist, Bobby.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #20 - Aug 11th, 2023 at 3:23pm  
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 11th, 2023 at 2:55pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 11th, 2023 at 1:09pm:
My grandmother often used to say -

if the Chinese could get away with it -
they'd invade us tomorrow.


They live in China.  We live in Australia.  There is 4,500 km between the two.  It consists mainly of ocean.  When we see a Chinese migration fleet hove over the horizon we should start to worry.  Until then, you can keep getting your knickers in a twist, Bobby.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Very good Brian,
China’s fleet is expected to grow to 400 ships in the next two years, the report says.
How would we stop 400 warships?

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/16/asia/china-navy-fleet-size-history-victory-in...
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Reply #21 - Aug 11th, 2023 at 3:23pm  
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 11th, 2023 at 2:55pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 11th, 2023 at 1:09pm:
My grandmother often used to say -

if the Chinese could get away with it -
they'd invade us tomorrow.


They live in China.  We live in Australia.  There is 4,500 km between the two.  It consists mainly of ocean.  When we see a Chinese migration fleet hove over the horizon we should start to worry.  Until then, you can keep getting your knickers in a twist, Bobby.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

At that point worrying would be as useless as most of your other 'ideas', cockwomble.
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Reply #22 - Aug 11th, 2023 at 3:47pm  
Frank wrote on Aug 11th, 2023 at 3:23pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 11th, 2023 at 2:55pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 11th, 2023 at 1:09pm:
My grandmother often used to say -

if the Chinese could get away with it -
they'd invade us tomorrow.


They live in China.  We live in Australia.  There is 4,500 km between the two.  It consists mainly of ocean.  When we see a Chinese migration fleet hove over the horizon we should start to worry.  Until then, you can keep getting your knickers in a twist, Bobby.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

At that point worrying would be as useless as most of your other 'ideas', cockwomble.




Brian doesn't know that I'm a good chess player.
I see the world as a giant chess board.
Numbers matter.
400 ships are a lot to try and stop.
When you are down in material in chess you lose - simple as that.
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Reply #23 - Aug 11th, 2023 at 4:33pm  
Bobby. wrote on Aug 11th, 2023 at 3:47pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 11th, 2023 at 3:23pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 11th, 2023 at 2:55pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 11th, 2023 at 1:09pm:
My grandmother often used to say -

if the Chinese could get away with it -
they'd invade us tomorrow.


They live in China.  We live in Australia.  There is 4,500 km between the two.  It consists mainly of ocean.  When we see a Chinese migration fleet hove over the horizon we should start to worry.  Until then, you can keep getting your knickers in a twist, Bobby.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

At that point worrying would be as useless as most of your other 'ideas', cockwomble.




Brian doesn't know that I'm a good chess player.
I see the world as a giant chess board.
Numbers matter.
400 ships are a lot to try and stop.
When you are down in material in chess you lose - simple as that.


What would be the objective of a Chinese invasion of Australia?
How many troops will be required?
How will they get here?
How will they be supplied?
Where will their support elements (air and naval) stage from?
What will the international ramifications be?

Just a few of the questions that need to be answered when planning this invasion. Feel free to answer.


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Reply #24 - Aug 11th, 2023 at 4:37pm  
Belgarion wrote on Aug 11th, 2023 at 4:33pm:
What would be the objective of a Chinese invasion of Australia?
How many troops will be required?
How will they get here?
How will they be supplied?
Where will their support elements (air and naval) stage from?
What will the international ramifications be?

Just a few of the questions that need to be answered when planning this invasion. Feel free to answer.




They can use cargo ships and requisition passenger ships to bring troops -
all protected by 400 warships.

China is a superpower - they only need to have the will to do it.
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Reply #25 - Aug 11th, 2023 at 4:53pm  
Bobby. wrote on Aug 11th, 2023 at 4:37pm:
Belgarion wrote on Aug 11th, 2023 at 4:33pm:
What would be the objective of a Chinese invasion of Australia?
How many troops will be required?
How will they get here?
How will they be supplied?
Where will their support elements (air and naval) stage from?
What will the international ramifications be?

Just a few of the questions that need to be answered when planning this invasion. Feel free to answer.


They can use cargo ships and requisition passenger ships to bring troops -
all protected by 400 warships.


Cargo ships need ports to unload.  Guess what would be the first things destroyed before their arrival? 400 warships?  You would need them all to defend against the US Navy and the RAN, near to China.  Run along, little man, the world is not a chess game.  Chess doesn't require any logistic considerations to be taken into account, the real world does.   You might be able to play an abstract game but you wouldn't last five minutes in reality.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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China is a superpower - they only need to have the will to do it.


China is a great power, it is still a long way from being a superpower.  A long way.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #26 - Aug 11th, 2023 at 6:27pm  
Bobby. wrote on Aug 11th, 2023 at 1:09pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 11th, 2023 at 12:53pm:
They live in China.  We live in Australia.  There is 4,500 km between the two.  It consists mainly of ocean.  When we see a Chinese migration fleet hove over the horizon we should start to worry.  Until then, you can keep getting your knickers in a twist, Bobby.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



My grandmother often used to say -

if the Chinese could get away with it -
they'd invade us tomorrow.


they are already here and buying up the joint for which the pollies will gladly sell to them Sad

Honestly sometimes the west are their own worst enemy Sad
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Reply #27 - Aug 11th, 2023 at 9:54pm  
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 11th, 2023 at 4:53pm:
Cargo ships need ports to unload.  Guess what would be the first things destroyed before their arrival? 400 warships?  You would need them all to defend against the US Navy and the RAN, near to China.  Run along, little man, the world is not a chess game.  Chess doesn't require any logistic considerations to be taken into account, the real world does.   You might be able to play an abstract game but you wouldn't last five minutes in reality.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


China is a great power, it is still a long way from being a superpower.  A long way.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Dear Brian,
many blessings.
I strongly suggest that you solve a chess puzzle every day to improve your thinking:
https://www.chessgames.com/index.html
The Monday puzzle is the easiest, advancing every day to the hardest day on Sunday.

It is not easy to destroy 400 warships.
Numbers count as per a chess game -
if you have only 1 Queen and 5 pawns left and your opponent
has most of their pieces still on the board - greater numbers -
it's almost impossible to win.

forgiven
namaste
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Reply #28 - Aug 11th, 2023 at 9:55pm  
Sir lastnail wrote on Aug 11th, 2023 at 6:27pm:
Bobby. wrote on Aug 11th, 2023 at 1:09pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 11th, 2023 at 12:53pm:
They live in China.  We live in Australia.  There is 4,500 km between the two.  It consists mainly of ocean.  When we see a Chinese migration fleet hove over the horizon we should start to worry.  Until then, you can keep getting your knickers in a twist, Bobby.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



My grandmother often used to say -

if the Chinese could get away with it -
they'd invade us tomorrow.


they are already here and buying up the joint for which the pollies will gladly sell to them Sad

Honestly sometimes the west are their own worst enemy Sad



yes - and they used dirty money to outbid Aussie families
helped by our casinos washing it for them.
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Reply #29 - Aug 11th, 2023 at 10:03pm  
Bobby. wrote on Aug 11th, 2023 at 9:54pm:
Dear Brian,
many blessings.
I strongly suggest that you solve a chess puzzle every day to improve your thinking:
https://www.chessgames.com/index.html
The Monday puzzle is the easiest, advancing every day to the hardest day on Sunday.

It is not easy to destroy 400 warships.
Numbers count as per a chess game -
if you have only 1 Queen and 5 pawns left and your opponent
has most of their pieces still on the board - greater numbers -
it's almost impossible to win.

forgiven
namaste


Chess doesn't require any logistic considerations to be taken into account, the real world does.   You might be able to play an abstract game but you wouldn't last five minutes in reality.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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