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Electricity bills going up thanks to AnAl
Jul 16^th, 2023 at 5:04pm

My electricity bill has gone up AnAl told us they would be cheaper when sucking up for votes before last election.

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Why are my electricity bills increasing

There has been an overall increase in the cost of supplying electricity to our customers over the past year, largely due to the rising costs of wholesale electricity

We closed down coal fired electricity to rely on renewable rubbish which resulted in bills going up.

How can this happen if renewables are cheaper?

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Promise check: Cut power bills for households by $275 a year by 2025 compared to before the election

A key plank of Labor's election platform was its "Powering Australia" plan, which it said would create jobs, reduce emissions and drive down the cost of electricity by upgrading infrastructure and boosting renewable energy production.

"Independent modelling shows Powering Australia …will bring down household power bills by $275 in 2025…" the document says.

The independent modelling was undertaken by energy analyst firm RepuTex.

Releasing the plan and the modelling at a December 3, 2021 press conference, Labor leader Anthony Albanese said it would see "electricity prices fall from the current level by $275 for household[s] by 2025, at the end of our first term, if we are successful".

However, Labor's promise to reduce average household energy bills by $275 continued to be repeated until at least May 18, when Mr Albanese said increasing renewable energy was "the best way to cut power bills for families and businesses — saving families $275 a year".

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-19/promise-check-cut-power-bills-by-275-doll...

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Reply #1 - Jul 16^th, 2023 at 5:47pm

I got a bill shock with my Telstra phone plan. It’s crept up to $62 a month!
Too much for little ole moiye!
I only use up to 5gb data per month.
So I took myself to the Telstra shop and changed it all to pre paid $35 month with 15 gb data!
I also made it so it’s direct debit because I can’t be hassled every month to manually recharge coz I could forget then I’m stuffed without being able to make calls if I am late to pay.

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Reply #2 - Jul 16^th, 2023 at 6:09pm

They should build a nuclear power plant in CQ to service much of Qld. This friggin' coal powered thing is getting old. And if we have a cleaner more efficient form of electricity production, it would be all the better.

I put my last electricity price hike to the fact that I used two heaters during the coldest time of the month last month.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 77082 Gender:	Re: Electricity bills going up thanks to AnAl Reply #3 - Jul 16^th, 2023 at 6:15pm We're paying the price off a decade of deliberate stifling of the renewable energy market by the pro coal mob.
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Reply #4 - Jul 16^th, 2023 at 6:22pm

Got an email from the Electricity company on July 12th 2023.

From August 1st 2023 my electricity is going up in price:

+18% for ordinary electricity, +31% for hot water and +13% for service supply.

So much for renewables saving us money?
They destroyed Hazelwood power station in Victoria
but had nothing to replace it.

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Belgarion Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5682 Gender:	Re: Electricity bills going up thanks to AnAl Reply #5 - Jul 16^th, 2023 at 6:34pm So called 'renewables' are being given $25 billion in subsidies between now and 2030. For the same amount at least one, possibly two nuclear power plants could be built. To keep pursuing the renewables fantasy is only going to enrich those getting the subsidies, it will not provide cheap or reliable power.
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Reply #7 - Jul 16^th, 2023 at 8:17pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 16^th, 2023 at 6:09pm:

They should build a nuclear power plant in CQ to service much of Qld. This friggin' coal powered thing is getting old. And if we have a cleaner more efficient form of electricity production, it would be all the better.

I put my last electricity price hike to the fact that I used two heaters during the coldest time of the month last month.

Nuclear energy 👈 considered a very dangerous option

Spent fuel rods 👈 where do they go?

Highly radioactive waste disposal methods are the issue.

Where do you dump these spent fuel rods? It can’t be near water or a fault zone or else radioactive waste could spread.

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Molten Salt Reactor <-- THE ANSWER ? Reply #8 - Jul 16^th, 2023 at 8:26pm https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molten_salt_reactor This addresses a lot of pain points which affect nuclear reactors AND the idea has been around since the 1950’s. Why hasn’t this technology been pursued?
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Reply #9 - Jul 16^th, 2023 at 8:28pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 16^th, 2023 at 8:17pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 16^th, 2023 at 6:09pm:

They should build a nuclear power plant in CQ to service much of Qld. This friggin' coal powered thing is getting old. And if we have a cleaner more efficient form of electricity production, it would be all the better.

I put my last electricity price hike to the fact that I used two heaters during the coldest time of the month last month.

Nuclear energy 👈 considered a very dangerous option

Spent fuel rods 👈 where do they go?

Highly radioactive waste disposal methods are the issue.

Spent fuel is stored safely and around 96% can be recycled. Have look at this: https://www.tiktok.com/@theradguyglows/video/6969767169542425861

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Reply #10 - Jul 17^th, 2023 at 6:03pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 16^th, 2023 at 8:17pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 16^th, 2023 at 6:09pm:

They should build a nuclear power plant in CQ to service much of Qld. This friggin' coal powered thing is getting old. And if we have a cleaner more efficient form of electricity production, it would be all the better.

I put my last electricity price hike to the fact that I used two heaters during the coldest time of the month last month.

Nuclear energy 👈 considered a very dangerous option

Spent fuel rods 👈 where do they go?

Highly radioactive waste disposal methods are the issue.

Where do you dump these spent fuel rods? It can’t be near water or a fault zone or else radioactive waste could spread.

Nuclear energy is safe. Nobody is asking for old Russian technology here.

Uranium is radioactive when you dig it up it can go back in the ground. We have plenty of dry parts in this country.

The fault lines near us go through NZ up to Asia in what they call the ring of fire which is why we have very few earthquakes.

We had around 83 nuclear bombs detonated in Australia the British did testing here.

Solar doesn't work at night solar is not an option. If you want to factor in battery storage then costs skyrocket batteries are very expensive Lithium only last 2500-3000 cycles before being replaced it doesn't matter if it's a phone laptop or Tesla battery.

Yes we have good wind in coastal areas the sea breeze dies when sun goes down so wind isn't reliable for 24 hour power.

Hydro is a great source cheapest of renewable yet not going to happen due to Green lunatics.

People go to work during the day what is going to generate electricity to charge electric cars at night?

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Reply #11 - Jul 19^th, 2023 at 11:01am

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 16^th, 2023 at 6:09pm:

They should build a nuclear power plant in CQ to service much of Qld. This friggin' coal powered thing is getting old. And if we have a cleaner more efficient form of electricity production, it would be all the better.

I put my last electricity price hike to the fact that I used two heaters during the coldest time of the month last month.

Which one? There are 4 coal powered power stations in Central QLD.

Stanwell(1993) is both coal fired & gas. It's not the oldest.

Gladstone is 17 years older(1976) & still our biggest capacity power station .... the only thing is it's now privately owned/run.

Callide A was older - 1965 to 2015(decommissioned).

Callide B - 1988.

Callide C - 2001.

You have more power stations within a bulls roar of you than anyone else in the country.

Plus the whole of the massive central qld coal fields/mines to fuel them.

If anything we should be building a new modern coal fired power station.

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Molten Salt Reactor <-- THE ANSWER ? Reply #12 - Jul 19^th, 2023 at 11:04am Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 16^th, 2023 at 8:26pm: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molten_salt_reactor This addresses a lot of pain points which affect nuclear reactors AND the idea has been around since the 1950’s. Why hasn’t this technology been pursued? Anyone want to have a go at this?
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Reply #13 - Jul 19^th, 2023 at 11:04am

John Smith wrote on Jul 16^th, 2023 at 6:15pm:

We're paying the price off a decade of deliberate stifling of the renewable energy market by the pro coal mob.

Bullshyte - it's all the coal mob(energy companies) that are investing in the renewable industry....

because it's money for jam

they're making a fortune setting us up for a dark future of unreliable power supply.

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Reply #14 - Jul 19^th, 2023 at 11:07am

Ten years ago, I would have said that we should keep the coal fired power stations going, given that I have family members involved in coal mining. But, since they have retired, I have no real interest in being bothered with coal fired power stations.

As far as I am concerned, we can keep on using coal fired power stations until the coal runs out. But, as for electricity prices, the uptake of solar panels on houses in town here should mean that the pressure on the electricity grid should be mitigated. Elevated electricity invoices are just a money-making scam. There is no real cost increase in producing electricity from the companies.

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