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Reply #345 - May 29th, 2023 at 2:16pm
 
Karnal wrote on May 29th, 2023 at 12:58pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 29th, 2023 at 12:11pm:
issuevoter wrote on May 29th, 2023 at 7:51am:
Karnal wrote on May 29th, 2023 at 12:58am:
JC Denton wrote on May 28th, 2023 at 8:51pm:
Karnal wrote on May 28th, 2023 at 8:21pm:
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what the bugger are you talking about? there were very few real soviet 'invasions' besides the invasion of afghanistan,


Oh? The Poles, Czechs, Hungarians and poor old East Germans might beg to differ, dear.

Quite a few white Russians may care to differ too. There was a civil war, after all.

They don't count much. Stalin saw to them, eh?


yeah mate, you know that's not what i meant, it's like holding up the invasion of georgia in 08-09 as a 'real war', those were capitulations, not actual wars. you might  as well be using the georgian icnident as an counter-example of how the russian army actually does have the same capacity as the soviets did if you want to play that game. the clear plan A here in ukraine was it for to be another event like that, but now it's transisitioned into plan B, a war of attrition as opposed to a rapid manouver based operation to trigger a negotition/capitulation.

no one thinks the armed forces of the russian federation are equivalent to the soviet army, except people trying to construct strawmen arguments. "hahahaha superpower my ass" yeah like uhhh no one thinks the RF is a superpower, no one who isn't an idiot anyway. the soviets spent 10-20% of GDP on their military, had 80% of the industrial capacity (with much of that industrial capacity concentrated in stuff that facilitaes a large and effective military) of the united states in 1980, were a classically marxist-leninst command economy that could concentrate resources where-ever the state wanted it to, was two times as large as the russian federation, etc. it's almost like --- wait for it --- they weren't the same country or something  Shocked Shocked Shocked and had completely different governments with different values and geopolitical objectives  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

might as well be saying the republic of italy is the roman empire


Come come, every year, the Kremlin has a jolly big military parade to celebrate VE day. Vlad's kept those missiles rolling down the street, just as Yeltsin and the commies before him did. Russia projects this image.

Don't pretend you're siding with some underdog. Russians are complete and utter cunts who invade their friends and neighbours.

Not even the Septics do that, dear.


So what is the the underlying problem with Russia? And there is a problem. You'd have to be a numbskull not to recognise that much. Under Putin, policy is by decree, and opposition has been steadily marginalised to the point where a charge of treason is likely. This is all justified by the NATO boogie-man who is coming to enslave Russia.



so what is the underlying problem with the west and there is a problem. you'd have to be a numbskull not to recognise that,  under the west, policy is designed to maximise profits for the pharma and military elite.  opposing either sees you ostracised, to the point where not getting a jab is seen as treason. they have a military more focused on including trans then being combat ready.
in australia they allow their state owned media to demonise their elite SAS and strip them of their medals. they want to stop production of meat, coal and oil and take advice from a 13 yo brat with aspergers on energy policy .  this is all justified as the elites doing what is best for the slaves.


Oh? We seem to recall your posts promoting the vax as a patriotic duty. Get vaxed, you said. Roll up your sleeves and take it like a man.

I am, you said. Stick it in, nurse, I won't even flinch.

That's the Superior Man for you, dear. Belt and braces, innit.


i spent all of 10 seconds thinking about the vaccine.

i was convinced no little jab of chemical could hurt me.

i still am.

harmless stuff.

i spent all of 10 seconds worrying about some mild respiratory virus

i was convinced no chest cold could hurt me

i still am

harmless stuff.

whats harmful is the way the west becoame poopy pants over the vaccine and the mild flu.

i'm sure in russia, the people didnt give a toss about it.

they seem a touch more resilient then the softcocks in the west.

its why vlad was tempted to attack.

he read Sun Tzu at the military academy.

CHAPTER 2  Avoid Strength, Attack Weakness


sounds like vlad and the corona virus have the same strategy  Grin Grin Grin


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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #346 - May 29th, 2023 at 6:50pm
 
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-29/lukashenko-offers-nuclear-weapons-for-joi...


Alexander Lukashenko offers 'nuclear weapons
for everyone' joining Belarus-Russia union


Posted 1h ago

...



Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko says if any other country wanted to join a Russia-Belarus union there could be "nuclear weapons for everyone".
Key points:

    Mr Lukashenko says he is putting forward his own perspective, and not the view of Russia
    Ukraine says it shot down 29 of 35 drones and 37 of 40 cruise missiles launched overnight at Kyiv
    Russia also damaged infrastructure in another drone strike on the Black Sea port of Odesa

Russia moved ahead last week with a plan to deploy tactical nuclear weapons in Belarus, in the Kremlin's first deployment of such warheads outside Russia since the 1991 fall of the Soviet Union, spurring concerns in the West.

In an interview published on Russia's state television late on Sunday, Mr Lukashenko, President Vladimir Putin's staunchest ally among Russia's neighbours, said it must be "strategically understood" that Minsk and Moscow had a unique chance to unite.

"No-one is against Kazakhstan and other countries having the same close relations that we have with the Russian Federation," Mr Lukashenko said
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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #347 - May 29th, 2023 at 7:40pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 29th, 2023 at 2:16pm:
Karnal wrote on May 29th, 2023 at 12:58pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 29th, 2023 at 12:11pm:
issuevoter wrote on May 29th, 2023 at 7:51am:
Karnal wrote on May 29th, 2023 at 12:58am:
JC Denton wrote on May 28th, 2023 at 8:51pm:
Karnal wrote on May 28th, 2023 at 8:21pm:
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what the bugger are you talking about? there were very few real soviet 'invasions' besides the invasion of afghanistan,


Oh? The Poles, Czechs, Hungarians and poor old East Germans might beg to differ, dear.

Quite a few white Russians may care to differ too. There was a civil war, after all.

They don't count much. Stalin saw to them, eh?


yeah mate, you know that's not what i meant, it's like holding up the invasion of georgia in 08-09 as a 'real war', those were capitulations, not actual wars. you might  as well be using the georgian icnident as an counter-example of how the russian army actually does have the same capacity as the soviets did if you want to play that game. the clear plan A here in ukraine was it for to be another event like that, but now it's transisitioned into plan B, a war of attrition as opposed to a rapid manouver based operation to trigger a negotition/capitulation.

no one thinks the armed forces of the russian federation are equivalent to the soviet army, except people trying to construct strawmen arguments. "hahahaha superpower my ass" yeah like uhhh no one thinks the RF is a superpower, no one who isn't an idiot anyway. the soviets spent 10-20% of GDP on their military, had 80% of the industrial capacity (with much of that industrial capacity concentrated in stuff that facilitaes a large and effective military) of the united states in 1980, were a classically marxist-leninst command economy that could concentrate resources where-ever the state wanted it to, was two times as large as the russian federation, etc. it's almost like --- wait for it --- they weren't the same country or something  Shocked Shocked Shocked and had completely different governments with different values and geopolitical objectives  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

might as well be saying the republic of italy is the roman empire


Come come, every year, the Kremlin has a jolly big military parade to celebrate VE day. Vlad's kept those missiles rolling down the street, just as Yeltsin and the commies before him did. Russia projects this image.

Don't pretend you're siding with some underdog. Russians are complete and utter cunts who invade their friends and neighbours.

Not even the Septics do that, dear.


So what is the the underlying problem with Russia? And there is a problem. You'd have to be a numbskull not to recognise that much. Under Putin, policy is by decree, and opposition has been steadily marginalised to the point where a charge of treason is likely. This is all justified by the NATO boogie-man who is coming to enslave Russia.



so what is the underlying problem with the west and there is a problem. you'd have to be a numbskull not to recognise that,  under the west, policy is designed to maximise profits for the pharma and military elite.  opposing either sees you ostracised, to the point where not getting a jab is seen as treason. they have a military more focused on including trans then being combat ready.
in australia they allow their state owned media to demonise their elite SAS and strip them of their medals. they want to stop production of meat, coal and oil and take advice from a 13 yo brat with aspergers on energy policy .  this is all justified as the elites doing what is best for the slaves.


Oh? We seem to recall your posts promoting the vax as a patriotic duty. Get vaxed, you said. Roll up your sleeves and take it like a man.

I am, you said. Stick it in, nurse, I won't even flinch.

That's the Superior Man for you, dear. Belt and braces, innit.


i spent all of 10 seconds thinking about the vaccine.

i was convinced no little jab of chemical could hurt me.

i still am.

harmless stuff.

i spent all of 10 seconds worrying about some mild respiratory virus

i was convinced no chest cold could hurt me

i still am

harmless stuff.




That was a long ten seconds, dear. A good three weeks of taking your vax and worshipping the fridge lectures, followed by another week of "noble Gurkha" virtue signalling.

That's where you complained about the leftards not sending their vaxes over to the developing world, remember?

But yes, you appeared to switch horses after that. Two vaxes good, four vaxes bad. Or the other way around. Or something else entirely, or not.

Ever get the feeling you've been vaccinated?
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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #348 - May 29th, 2023 at 7:44pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 29th, 2023 at 6:50pm:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-29/lukashenko-offers-nuclear-weapons-for-joi...


Alexander Lukashenko offers 'nuclear weapons
for everyone' joining Belarus-Russia union


Posted 1h ago

https://media.gab.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=240,quality=100,fit=scale-down/system/...



Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko says if any other country wanted to join a Russia-Belarus union there could be "nuclear weapons for everyone".
Key points:

    Mr Lukashenko says he is putting forward his own perspective, and not the view of Russia
    Ukraine says it shot down 29 of 35 drones and 37 of 40 cruise missiles launched overnight at Kyiv
    Russia also damaged infrastructure in another drone strike on the Black Sea port of Odesa

Russia moved ahead last week with a plan to deploy tactical nuclear weapons in Belarus, in the Kremlin's first deployment of such warheads outside Russia since the 1991 fall of the Soviet Union, spurring concerns in the West.

In an interview published on Russia's state television late on Sunday, Mr Lukashenko, President Vladimir Putin's staunchest ally among Russia's neighbours, said it must be "strategically understood" that Minsk and Moscow had a unique chance to unite.

"No-one is against Kazakhstan and other countries having the same close relations that we have with the Russian Federation," Mr Lukashenko said


Good news for us all, Bobby. Now, everybody can have some nukes.

I think it's a smart move. Vlad empowers Lukashenko to let her rip on every tinpot nuclear wannabe.

That's democracy, Superior Man style.

Read your Sun Tzu.
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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #349 - May 29th, 2023 at 7:49pm
 
Karnal wrote on May 29th, 2023 at 7:44pm:
Good news for us all, Bobby. Now, everybody can have some nukes.

I think it's a smart move. Vlad empowers Lukashenko to let her rip on every tinpot nuclear wannabe.

That's democracy, Superior Man style.

Read your Sun Tzu.



Now any country can get some nukes as
long as they kiss Putin's arse.
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Reply #350 - May 29th, 2023 at 7:52pm
 
Can one lose a war 'goodly'?
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Reply #351 - May 29th, 2023 at 8:40pm
 
Finally - Russia gets a taste of their own medicine:


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12135799/Russia-attack-Ukraine-forces-s...


29 May 2023

Russia under attack:


...



Ukraine forces subject Belgorod region to its heaviest shelling yet, hitting industrial facilities and leaving settlements without power

    Ukrainian forces shelled several frontier settlements in Russian border region
    Attack comes days after anti-Putin rebel groups briefly captured territory there.



Ukrainian forces today shelled several frontier settlements in the Russian border region of Belgorod just days after anti-Putin rebel groups briefly captured territory there, the local governor said.

Vyacheslav Gladkov said two industrial facilities in the border town of Shebekino had been shelled and four employees had been wounded while several settlements were left without electricity.

The governor ordered some 300 children to be evacuated from Shebekino and the border district of Graivoron and sent to summer camps away from the front lines.

Belgorod, which borders Ukraine's Kharkiv region, has repeatedly come under attack from Kyiv's forces since the beginning Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February last year.

Today's strike is the heaviest shelling since the beginning of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, local media reported.
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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #352 - May 29th, 2023 at 11:28pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 29th, 2023 at 7:49pm:
Karnal wrote on May 29th, 2023 at 7:44pm:
Good news for us all, Bobby. Now, everybody can have some nukes.

I think it's a smart move. Vlad empowers Lukashenko to let her rip on every tinpot nuclear wannabe.

That's democracy, Superior Man style.

Read your Sun Tzu.



Now any country can get some nukes as
long as they kiss Putin's arse.


That's the spirit. The "noble Vlad", the Air Asia of the nuke business.

Sorry - the "N word". The big fella would prefer we kept mum.

There's two N words we don't say, mkay?


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Reply #353 - May 29th, 2023 at 11:36pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 29th, 2023 at 8:40pm:
Finally - Russia gets a taste of their own medicine:


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12135799/Russia-attack-Ukraine-forces-s...


29 May 2023

Russia under attack:


https://media.gab.com/system/preview_cards/images/038/076/541/original/fb3c7e02a...



Ukraine forces subject Belgorod region to its heaviest shelling yet, hitting industrial facilities and leaving settlements without power

    Ukrainian forces shelled several frontier settlements in Russian border region
    Attack comes days after anti-Putin rebel groups briefly captured territory there.



Ukrainian forces today shelled several frontier settlements in the Russian border region of Belgorod just days after anti-Putin rebel groups briefly captured territory there, the local governor said.

Vyacheslav Gladkov said two industrial facilities in the border town of Shebekino had been shelled and four employees had been wounded while several settlements were left without electricity.

The governor ordered some 300 children to be evacuated from Shebekino and the border district of Graivoron and sent to summer camps away from the front lines.

Belgorod, which borders Ukraine's Kharkiv region, has repeatedly come under attack from Kyiv's forces since the beginning Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February last year.

Today's strike is the heaviest shelling since the beginning of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, local media reported.


And that's okay. Vlad's an Alpha stallion, nudging his foals into line. He does it out of love, Bobby.

Read your Sun Tzu.
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Re: expert - says Ukraine is losing the war badly.
Reply #354 - May 29th, 2023 at 11:42pm
 
Karnal wrote on May 29th, 2023 at 11:28pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 29th, 2023 at 7:49pm:
Karnal wrote on May 29th, 2023 at 7:44pm:
Good news for us all, Bobby. Now, everybody can have some nukes.

I think it's a smart move. Vlad empowers Lukashenko to let her rip on every tinpot nuclear wannabe.

That's democracy, Superior Man style.

Read your Sun Tzu.



Now any country can get some nukes as
long as they kiss Putin's arse.


That's the spirit. The "noble Vlad", the Air Asia of the nuke business.

Sorry - the "N word". The big fella would prefer we kept mum.

There's two N words we don't say, mkay?




Iran has been doing a lot of arse kissing lately -
selling drones to Russia to kill women and children in Ukraine.
Maybe Putin will give some Nukes to Iran?
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Reply #355 - May 30th, 2023 at 7:21am
 
Bobby. wrote on May 29th, 2023 at 11:42pm:
Karnal wrote on May 29th, 2023 at 11:28pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 29th, 2023 at 7:49pm:
Karnal wrote on May 29th, 2023 at 7:44pm:
Good news for us all, Bobby. Now, everybody can have some nukes.

I think it's a smart move. Vlad empowers Lukashenko to let her rip on every tinpot nuclear wannabe.

That's democracy, Superior Man style.

Read your Sun Tzu.



Now any country can get some nukes as
long as they kiss Putin's arse.


That's the spirit. The "noble Vlad", the Air Asia of the nuke business.

Sorry - the "N word". The big fella would prefer we kept mum.

There's two N words we don't say, mkay?




Iran has been doing a lot of arse kissing lately -
selling drones to Russia to kill women and children in Ukraine.
Maybe Putin will give some Nukes to Iran?



Entirely possible Bobby

The massive amount of fear mongering done about kovid

And the massive amount of minimal ization done about the threat of nuclear war

Is spectacular in it's stupidity

A lot of old demented people tend to wander

Joe biden might just sleepwalk the world into a rather large catastrophe

I have certainly increased my stores of food and ammunition

Covid has a less than 1 in 1000 death rate

I would imagine the risk of a nuke going off sometime in the next couple of years is about 1 in 3

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Reply #356 - May 30th, 2023 at 8:08am
 
aquascoot wrote on May 30th, 2023 at 7:21am:
Entirely possible Bobby

The massive amount of fear mongering done about kovid

And the massive amount of minimal ization done about the threat of nuclear war

Is spectacular in it's stupidity

A lot of old demented people tend to wander

Joe biden might just sleepwalk the world into a rather large catastrophe

I have certainly increased my stores of food and ammunition

Covid has a less than 1 in 1000 death rate

I would imagine the risk of a nuke going off sometime in the next couple of years is about 1 in 3




yep -

'nuclear weapons for everyone' joining Belarus-Russia union

Bloody ridiculous and completely against all treaties that were ever signed.


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Reply #357 - May 30th, 2023 at 8:12am
 
Russian attacks on women and children continue:

Bloody cowards.

https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-05-29-23/index....



Russia launched a wave of attacks on Kyiv Sunday night into Monday, including a surprise daytime attack. More than 70 drones and missiles have been fired by Moscow since Sunday night, Ukrainian officials say, and many of the drones were shot down by the country's defenses.

The Kyiv city military administration said the daytime barrage was the 16th attack on the capital since the beginning of the month.
Ukrainian authorities are promising swift retaliation as the country's counteroffensive looms.



Here's what to know about the strikes on Kyiv and other top headlines:

    Overnight attacks: Ukrainian air defenses destroyed 67 out of 75 "air targets" launched overnight on Kyiv, the commander of Ukraine’s Armed Forces said Monday. Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said 37 cruise missiles, 29 Shahed drones and one reconnaissance drone were shot down. Police confirmed that “almost all enemy targets were destroyed,” but some buildings were damaged.

    Rare daytime attacks: Just hours later, Kyiv came under an unusual daytime attack. Serhii Popko, the head of Kyiv city military administration, said this attack shows "the enemy changed its tactics – after prolonged, nighttime attacks only, it struck a peaceful city during the day when most residents were at work and outside.” Kyiv’s armed forces said it downed 11 Iskander missiles launched by Russia in the daytime raid. One man was hospitalized.

    Attacks across other parts of Ukraine: The country's defenses destroyed 77 out of 89 Russian drones and missiles fired at various places in the country on Sunday night and Monday, the Ukrainian military said in an update Monday. The overall tally of missiles is one of the highest daily counts in recent months.

    Ukraine vows to respond: The head of Ukraine's Defense Intelligence promised retribution "very soon" after the latest wave of Russian attacks. "Our response will not be delayed. Everyone will see everything soon," the official said. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky posted a half-minute video of children running to a shelter in Kyiv Monday morning as an explosion is heard in the background. "Thank you to everyone in the world who helps protect people and our children from Russian terror!" the president said.
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Reply #358 - May 30th, 2023 at 8:13am
 
aquascoot wrote on May 30th, 2023 at 7:21am:
I would imagine the risk of a nuke going off sometime in the next couple of years is about 1 in 3


1 in 3, eh!

.. and (it came to me in a dream) statistics.
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Reply #359 - May 30th, 2023 at 8:28am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 30th, 2023 at 8:13am:
aquascoot wrote on May 30th, 2023 at 7:21am:
I would imagine the risk of a nuke going off sometime in the next couple of years is about 1 in 3


1 in 3, eh!

.. and (it came to me in a dream) statistics.



Lol

I heard it on a Joe Rogan podcast where he was discussing the issue with a former CIA and former department of defence senior person

What are your assessments master

I would be surprised if the consensus was that the chance was only 1 in 1000
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