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Re: Transgender Pride Flag To Fly at Vic Parliament
Reply #105 - Jul 19th, 2023 at 7:48pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 6:56pm:
That's right folks: Frank is equating transgenders with Nazis.

Godwin's law.

That didn't take long, did it?   Wink



It didn’t take long for YOU to IMAGINE that.

Greg R U OK?
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Re: Transgender Pride Flag To Fly at Vic Parliament
Reply #106 - Jul 19th, 2023 at 7:51pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 7:11pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 6:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 6:48pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 6:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 2:10pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 11:43am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 11:37am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 11:31am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 11:16am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 10:25am:
mothra wrote on May 17th, 2023 at 9:02am:
AusGeoff wrote on May 17th, 2023 at 8:46am:
Oh... I've just read this over my brekky cornflakes...

Victoria's LGAs fly rainbow flag on IDAHOBIT in support of LGBT community.

Quote:
For the first time, a sea of rainbow flags have been raised across
Victoria on the International Day Against Homophobia, Biphobia and
Transphobia (IDAHOBIT).   The Victorian Parliament and all the
state's local government areas have raised the rainbow flag in honour
of the queer community today.


Hmmm... is this wise?  Inflammatory?  Divisive?  Or are people,
like me, ultimately indifferent?

At first I thought Idahobit may've been Bilbo Baggins' long lost sister.

        Wink




Inflammatory? I had to reread that. then i remembered where i was and was less surprised.

I would consider prejudice more inflammatory than acceptance and solidarity, but that's just me.

Oh, and just about every one else under 60.

Fly those flags!

While kids are still killing themselves because they fear persecution for being who they are, i say the more we can do to show we accept them the better. Bring it on.


It has no place on a Govt building.

It's just more fawning & identity politics.

...


And?   Undecided


(Oh I know the answer to this one Gnads!!!)

And ... it’s absolute BS.

That enough for you?



Who does it hurt?



What purpose does it serve?


White flag (pardon the pun) accepted.

If it's not hurting anyone, live and let live.



You know where the white flag should be shoved yeah?

You've now made it brown.

If it were merely about live & let live ... the falg wouldn't have been flown on a govt/public building.

They'd be going about their lives just like everyone else ....

without the grandstanding fuss.


Live and let live, buddy.

You're being a total Karen over nothing.

Nobody is harmed by a Pride flag flown on a government building.

Don't like it?  Don't look at it.

A very stupid analogy by a sinister stinker. As moronic as "Swastika flag flying on public buildings? - don't like it, dont look at it. Just a flag."



Godwin's law.



Greggary - Could you kindly cease and desist in abusing that law? It’s most revolting.


Godwin's law itself can be applied mistakenly or abused as a distraction, diversion or even as censorship, when fallaciously miscasting an opponent's argument as hyperbole when the comparison made by the argument is appropriate.
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Re: Transgender Pride Flag To Fly at Vic Parliament
Reply #107 - Jul 19th, 2023 at 7:54pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 7:11pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 6:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 6:48pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 6:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 2:10pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 11:43am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 11:37am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 11:31am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 11:16am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 10:25am:
mothra wrote on May 17th, 2023 at 9:02am:
AusGeoff wrote on May 17th, 2023 at 8:46am:
Oh... I've just read this over my brekky cornflakes...

Victoria's LGAs fly rainbow flag on IDAHOBIT in support of LGBT community.

Quote:
For the first time, a sea of rainbow flags have been raised across
Victoria on the International Day Against Homophobia, Biphobia and
Transphobia (IDAHOBIT).   The Victorian Parliament and all the
state's local government areas have raised the rainbow flag in honour
of the queer community today.


Hmmm... is this wise?  Inflammatory?  Divisive?  Or are people,
like me, ultimately indifferent?

At first I thought Idahobit may've been Bilbo Baggins' long lost sister.

        Wink




Inflammatory? I had to reread that. then i remembered where i was and was less surprised.

I would consider prejudice more inflammatory than acceptance and solidarity, but that's just me.

Oh, and just about every one else under 60.

Fly those flags!

While kids are still killing themselves because they fear persecution for being who they are, i say the more we can do to show we accept them the better. Bring it on.


It has no place on a Govt building.

It's just more fawning & identity politics.

...


And?   Undecided


(Oh I know the answer to this one Gnads!!!)

And ... it’s absolute BS.

That enough for you?



Who does it hurt?



What purpose does it serve?


White flag (pardon the pun) accepted.

If it's not hurting anyone, live and let live.



You know where the white flag should be shoved yeah?

You've now made it brown.

If it were merely about live & let live ... the falg wouldn't have been flown on a govt/public building.

They'd be going about their lives just like everyone else ....

without the grandstanding fuss.


Live and let live, buddy.

You're being a total Karen over nothing.

Nobody is harmed by a Pride flag flown on a government building.

Don't like it?  Don't look at it.

A very stupid analogy by a sinister stinker. As moronic as "Swastika flag flying on public buildings? - don't like it, dont look at it. Just a flag."



Godwin's law.

https://media.tenor.com/BHEkb1EYsaMAAAAM/aplausos-clapped.gif

No, stinker, I am equating one flag being just a flag with another flag just being a flag.
And I delight in seeing you squirm like the disgusting idiotic repellent worm you are when your moronic 'just a flag' fvkkwittery is turned back onto you.


https://twitter.com/clowndownunder/status/1681575032705945601

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Re: Transgender Pride Flag To Fly at Vic Parliament
Reply #108 - Jul 19th, 2023 at 8:00pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 7:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 7:11pm:
Frank wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 6:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 6:48pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 6:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 2:10pm:
Gnads wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 11:43am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 11:37am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 11:31am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 11:16am:
Gnads wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 10:25am:
mothra wrote on May 17th, 2023 at 9:02am:
AusGeoff wrote on May 17th, 2023 at 8:46am:
Oh... I've just read this over my brekky cornflakes...

Victoria's LGAs fly rainbow flag on IDAHOBIT in support of LGBT community.

Quote:
For the first time, a sea of rainbow flags have been raised across
Victoria on the International Day Against Homophobia, Biphobia and
Transphobia (IDAHOBIT).   The Victorian Parliament and all the
state's local government areas have raised the rainbow flag in honour
of the queer community today.


Hmmm... is this wise?  Inflammatory?  Divisive?  Or are people,
like me, ultimately indifferent?

At first I thought Idahobit may've been Bilbo Baggins' long lost sister.

        Wink




Inflammatory? I had to reread that. then i remembered where i was and was less surprised.

I would consider prejudice more inflammatory than acceptance and solidarity, but that's just me.

Oh, and just about every one else under 60.

Fly those flags!

While kids are still killing themselves because they fear persecution for being who they are, i say the more we can do to show we accept them the better. Bring it on.


It has no place on a Govt building.

It's just more fawning & identity politics.

...


And?   Undecided


(Oh I know the answer to this one Gnads!!!)

And ... it’s absolute BS.

That enough for you?



Who does it hurt?



What purpose does it serve?


White flag (pardon the pun) accepted.

If it's not hurting anyone, live and let live.



You know where the white flag should be shoved yeah?

You've now made it brown.

If it were merely about live & let live ... the falg wouldn't have been flown on a govt/public building.

They'd be going about their lives just like everyone else ....

without the grandstanding fuss.


Live and let live, buddy.

You're being a total Karen over nothing.

Nobody is harmed by a Pride flag flown on a government building.

Don't like it?  Don't look at it.

A very stupid analogy by a sinister stinker. As moronic as "Swastika flag flying on public buildings? - don't like it, dont look at it. Just a flag."



Godwin's law.

https://media.tenor.com/BHEkb1EYsaMAAAAM/aplausos-clapped.gif

No, stinker, I am equating one flag being just a flag with another flag just being a flag.
And I delight in seeing you squirm like the disgusting idiotic repellent worm you are when your moronic 'just a flag' fvkkwittery is turned back onto you.


https://twitter.com/clowndownunder/status/1681575032705945601



Frank "thinks" the Transgender Pride Flag is a symbol of six million Jews being murdered.

Oh dear.
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Re: Transgender Pride Flag To Fly at Vic Parliament
Reply #109 - Jul 19th, 2023 at 8:09pm
 
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Frank "thinks" the Transgender Pride Flag is a symbol of six million Jews being murdered.


Greggary : You need to log off and take your medications then come back and start over because what you’ve just stated never took place. You’re imagining it all.

Come to think of it ....the id NotSoGreat has been doing the exact same thing tonight ie imagining things which were never posted. Are you his twin brother by any chance?
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Re: Transgender Pride Flag To Fly at Vic Parliament
Reply #110 - Jul 19th, 2023 at 8:13pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 8:00pm:
Frank "thinks" the Transgender Pride Flag is a symbol of six million Jews being murdered.

Oh dear.



greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 6:48pm:
Live and let live, buddy.

You're being a total Karen over nothing.

Nobody is harmed by a Pride flag flown on a government building.

Don't like it?  Don't look at it.


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Re: Transgender Pride Flag To Fly at Vic Parliament
Reply #111 - Jul 20th, 2023 at 3:36am
 
Frank wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 7:54pm:

No, stinker, I am equating one flag being just a flag with another flag just being a flag.
And I delight in seeing you squirm like the disgusting idiotic repellent worm you are when your moronic 'just a flag' fvkkwittery is turned back onto you.


https://twitter.com/clowndownunder/status/1681575032705945601

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Except they are not....... and when a government chooses to use a minority flag and a minority of flags that government is making a statement about its views.  If all flags are equal why is the White Australia flag not flown?  What about ISIS flag? North Korean?  Colombian (get your white powder here!)?  Rwandan?

We're all equal, no?

And to YOU - that's God Wins Laws.

Government must NOT be telling us what we should think.
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Re: Transgender Pride Flag To Fly at Vic Parliament
Reply #112 - Jul 20th, 2023 at 6:57am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 6:48pm:
...Nobody is harmed by a Pride flag flown on a government building.

Don't like it?  Don't look at it.

Based on this simplistic solution then, you'd agree
with the public display of the Nazi swastika flag?

Anyway...

I raised the flying of the so-called "transgender" flag
on government buildings as I consider its purpose
to be socially divisive—that is, promoting a "them
and us" mindset in the public.

As I've said elsewhere, I have no issues at all with
the LGBTQI+ members of our community, but it's
important that they don't overly impinge on the
equanimity of our majorly heteronormative society
(currently 96% in Australia).

According to percentages averaged across several
survey datasets, 3.6% of males and 3.4% of females
described themselves with a minority sexual identity
(gay, lesbian, bisexual, and other sexual minorities).

Tom Wilson, et al, BMC Research Notes, 16 November 2020.

Already, the flying of the LGBTQI+ flag has caused
vexed, abusive, derogatory and divisive commentary
in our media and online social resources.

Hardly the way to encourage inclusion I would've thought?   

 
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Re: Transgender Pride Flag To Fly at Vic Parliament
Reply #113 - Jul 20th, 2023 at 10:00pm
 
It's had its moment of morning glory - now pull it down and assign it to the dust bins of humanity where it belongs.

That movement is dying.
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Re: Transgender Pride Flag To Fly at Vic Parliament
Reply #114 - Jul 21st, 2023 at 12:08am
 
"What attracts them and excites them sexually is the idea of themselves as women. It's almost as if they're in love with the woman version of themselves.

But what is so unusual and destructive about this sexual desire and urge is that it requires everybody else to play along. That's part of the fantasy.

Without this hard core of men whose dearest and sole desire in life is to force everybody to pretend that they're women, this would not have got so far.  These men are the ones who want children put on sterilizing drugs to validate their sexuality."


Helen Joyce  with MegynKelly


https://twitter.com/WomenReadWomen/status/1681935340636893185

I don't want their flags anywhere, especially not on public buildings. They can shove it.
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Re: Transgender Pride Flag To Fly at Vic Parliament
Reply #115 - Jul 21st, 2023 at 7:35am
 
AusGeoff wrote on Jul 20th, 2023 at 6:57am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 6:48pm:
...Nobody is harmed by a Pride flag flown on a government building.

Don't like it?  Don't look at it.

Based on this simplistic solution then, you'd agree
with the public display of the Nazi swastika flag?




How many Jews have transgenders killed - 6 million?

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Reply #116 - Jul 21st, 2023 at 7:41am
 
Three questions:

How is the flag that was flown able to equated with the goddamn nazi flag? I mean, what the hell are you people actually suggesting here. Are you aware of yourselves at all?

2 ... Are people seriously whining because white, heteronormative people aren't included on the flag? Are you kidding me? Feeling UNDERREPRESENTED were you?

And goddamn 3 ...  all this fuss and it was up for a week. Did you think yourselves hysterical before this event or is it slowly dawning on you. Still lost? Keep posting on Ozpol! Way to get validated for being an utter front bottom.
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Re: Transgender Pride Flag To Fly at Vic Parliament
Reply #117 - Jul 21st, 2023 at 7:45am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 21st, 2023 at 7:35am:
AusGeoff wrote on Jul 20th, 2023 at 6:57am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 6:48pm:
...Nobody is harmed by a Pride flag flown on a government building.

Don't like it?  Don't look at it.

Based on this simplistic solution then, you'd agree
with the public display of the Nazi swastika flag?




How many Jews have transgenders killed - 6 million?



I think we're being asked to challenge ourselves on our claim that it is "just a flag".

The thing that this lot aren't getting is that in the case of the inclusivity flag, that's precisely all it is.

One cannot make that claim for the horrible swastika.

What all of this exposes, of course, is the prejudice of the people complaing. they've been all affronted and stuff.

NOT IN MY NAME!

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Re: Transgender Pride Flag To Fly at Vic Parliament
Reply #118 - Jul 21st, 2023 at 8:10am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 21st, 2023 at 7:35am:
AusGeoff wrote on Jul 20th, 2023 at 6:57am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 6:48pm:
...Nobody is harmed by a Pride flag flown on a government building.

Don't like it?  Don't look at it.

Based on this simplistic solution then, you'd agree
with the public display of the Nazi swastika flag?




How many Jews have transgenders killed - 6 million?


Your moronic excuse of 'don't like it, dont look at it' is challenged, skincrawlingly repellent creep, with the illustration of another even more repellent symbol. Nobody said they were symbolising equivalent things. What is rejected as moronic is your excuse for flags of deviance to be ok because you can simply look away even if they infest public spaces.
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Re: Transgender Pride Flag To Fly at Vic Parliament
Reply #119 - Jul 21st, 2023 at 8:15am
 
Frank wrote on Jul 21st, 2023 at 8:10am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 21st, 2023 at 7:35am:
AusGeoff wrote on Jul 20th, 2023 at 6:57am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19th, 2023 at 6:48pm:
...Nobody is harmed by a Pride flag flown on a government building.

Don't like it?  Don't look at it.

Based on this simplistic solution then, you'd agree
with the public display of the Nazi swastika flag?




How many Jews have transgenders killed - 6 million?


Your moronic excuse of 'don't like it, dont look at it' is challenged, skincrawlingly repellent creep, with the illustration of another even more repellent symbol. Nobody said they were symbolising equivalent things. What is rejected as moronic is your excuse for flags of deviance to be ok because you can simply look away even if they infest public spaces.



While the "look" part may be on par, there are chasms between the positions up for "liking"

Did this really need to be explained to you?

Is it because you think that your "forced" exposure on a government building to an inclusivity flag affronts you as much as the swastika would affront me?

Are you evidencing affinity, Frank old boy?

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