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Re: Aboriginal flag at Yass Soldiers Memorial
Reply #60 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 6:45am

Gnads wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 6:30am:

Agnes. wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 10:33pm:

When Australia finally ditches the UK, we will finally get a new flag- that will be exciting- this will mean a new Aussie song as well- I cannot wait- this is when all you disgusting whingers can really let it all hang out and really hang the evil Abo's! this would be the most racist forum on the internet-not just Abo's but everyone is up to be hanged and bitched about-

cods was old but she was not fookin' racist!

I can imagine - you'd be all for the Green & Gold Boxing Kangaroo flag & Waltzing Matilda as the anthem .....

a real Aussie Yokel. Roll Eyes

Wow!! Sounds good to me!

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BAN ALL THESE ABO SITES RECOGNITIONS.

ALL AUSTRALIA IS FOR ALL AUSTRALIANS!

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Reply #61 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 9:48am

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 8:48pm:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 8:43pm:

Abbos turn out in their hundreds of thousands across Australia during a pandemic protesting against one specific race, the white Australian...

Can you please cite a reference(s) confirming this claim?

I'd be inclined to measure Aboriginal protest gathering
as only in the dozens, or maybe only a hundred or so.

Tens of thousands, then.

Australian Black Lives Matter protests: tens of thousands demand end to Indigenous deaths in custody
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Re: Aboriginal flag at Yass Soldiers Memorial
Reply #62 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 9:55am

AusGeoff wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 8:26pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 10:32am:

...Aborigines did not live in an Adamite Eden before 1788. Quite the opposite. Manufacturing a new identity for them, complete with nationhood, flag, agriculture, towns, commerce, science and the rest is blatant revisionist bs that must be called out and challenged.

I don't think you understand (or choose to ignore) that it's rabid racism such
as you've displayed in every one of your comments here that's further forcing
a "them and us" state of affairs in the non-indigenous population.

These claims of yours, above, are pure fantasy fiction. You've obviously done
no detailed research of your own, and you're simply regurgitating the absurd
claims of other racists you've come across on the interwebs.

I can't understand—for example—why you're so triggered by the hoisting of
a simple flag? How does that affect you negatively? Does it influence your
way of life on a day-to-day basis? And if it does, then how exactly?

It is not 'rabid racism' upto call a spade a spade,. After all, Aborigines want truth telling. So let the truth be told without peafl-clutching, preening missionaries like you or Bbwian tut tutting about it.

Aborigines do some real evil to each other on a largish scale in remote and regional Australia and it's no good hiding or ignoring or calling it wacist if it mentioned it out of a sense of ' oh, it's wacist to notice Aborigines behaving badly". Correct diagnosis is the first step towards any cure. Misdiagnosis can be fatal.

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Re: Aboriginal flag at Yass Soldiers Memorial
Reply #63 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 11:32am

Gnads wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 6:23am:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 9:53pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 9:32pm:

The Aboriginal Anzacs are already commemorated ..

And where would that be, Graps? Out the back, round the side? Well away from most ANZAC memorials. Indigenous Australians have been, by and large, ignored and sent packing by most White diggers. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Bullshyte.

Is that the best you can muster? Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Your Racism appears flustered by the reality. In Canberra, the nation's capital, the Indigenous ANZAC memorial is around the back of the War Memorial. Why, because the whites put it there. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Re: Aboriginal flag at Yass Soldiers Memorial
Reply #64 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 12:10pm

How many Abos does it take to change a flag?

Only one - then an endless torrent of high praise and other bullshit over a simple thing... FFS ... it's like some sheila changing a light bulb... one to do it - then the entire media to screech praise to the highest heavens and say how hard it was given the status of women, the wage gap, and the patriarchal society oppressing her as she laboured so magnificently in the fields fighting for women's rights to change light bulbs ......

It's time to mandate that any flag other than the Australian one must fly lower etc... enough of this primitive child drawing flag and the Android from When the World Stood Still ....

Great that Android flag - clearly a dark guy surrounded by White skin... pretty apt, eh?

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Reply #65 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 1:56pm

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 11:32am:

Gnads wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 6:23am:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 9:53pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 9:32pm:

The Aboriginal Anzacs are already commemorated ..

And where would that be, Graps? Out the back, round the side? Well away from most ANZAC memorials. Indigenous Australians have been, by and large, ignored and sent packing by most White diggers. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Bullshyte.

Is that the best you can muster? Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Your Racism appears flustered by the reality. In Canberra, the nation's capital, the Indigenous ANZAC memorial is around the back of the War Memorial. Why, because the whites put it there. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

You're not in the "deep south" in Alabama or Georgia or Carolina.....

this "Out the back, round the side?" is what's bullshyte.

Like everything else you suggest.

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Reply #66 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 2:07pm

Gnads wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 1:56pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 11:32am:

Gnads wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 6:23am:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 9:53pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 29^th, 2022 at 9:32pm:

The Aboriginal Anzacs are already commemorated ..

And where would that be, Graps? Out the back, round the side? Well away from most ANZAC memorials. Indigenous Australians have been, by and large, ignored and sent packing by most White diggers. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Bullshyte.

Is that the best you can muster? Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Your Racism appears flustered by the reality. In Canberra, the nation's capital, the Indigenous ANZAC memorial is around the back of the War Memorial. Why, because the whites put it there. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

You're not in the "deep south" in Alabama or Georgia or Carolina.....

You'd prefer to live there?

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this "Out the back, round the side?" is what's bullshyte.

Like everything else you suggest.

Every Indigenous ANZAC memorial that I have visited over the years has been in some obscure position, "out the back, round the side." When we find one out the front, Indigenous ANZACs will be honoured by the majority of Australians, they will be accepted. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 80324 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Aboriginal flag at Yass Soldiers Memorial Reply #67 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 2:20pm They are included under the title Anzacs etc.... same as with Parliament and constitutions they are listed as Australians........... Keep up with the times...
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Re: Aboriginal flag at Yass Soldiers Memorial
Reply #68 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 2:58pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 30^th, 2022 at 2:20pm:

They are included under the title Anzacs etc.... same as with Parliament and constitutions they are listed as Australians...........

Keep up with the times...

How were they honoured before 1967? They weren't. They weren't even considered citizens. Even since 1967, their memorials have been,"out the back, round the side," of the more traditional ANZAC memorials. Graps your mad desire to "mainstream" everybody just doesn't work. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Boris Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3912 Gender:	Re: Aboriginal flag at Yass Soldiers Memorial Reply #69 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 3:00pm they also rape and murder children and used to eat them
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 39580	Re: Aboriginal flag at Yass Soldiers Memorial Reply #70 - Nov 30^th, 2022 at 3:08pm No evidence of them, "eating their children". Matty. Something you are on record admitting. Tsk, tsk, tsk...
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Reply #71 - Dec 1^st, 2022 at 7:45am

Daisey Bates and many others reported it.

Daisy Bates worked for many years as a welfare worker amongst the Aboriginal tribes of Western Australia and through this she built up an extensive anthropological knowledge of Aboriginal cultures which she recorded in numerous articles and her autobiography.

Daisy Bates (1859-1951) was a remarkable and quite controversial ethnographer who spent all of her adult life living in Aboriginal communities around parts of Western Australia and South Australia. Her priceless collection of written records documents a great deal about the language and culture of the many different people she worked with. Her 'Native Tribes of Western Australia' (White 1985) is a detailed collection about Aboriginal people of WA. Significantly, it is an edited version of all of her notes except the section containing thousands of pages dealing with Aboriginal languages.

In collaboration with the National Library of Australia (NLA), these web pages make accessible this extremely valuable collection of over 23,000 pages of wordlists of Australian languages, originally recorded by Daisy Bates in the early 1900s, made up of the original questionnaires and around 4,000 pages of typescripts. This will enable reuse of the collection by Aboriginal people searching for their own heritage languages and by other researchers.

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 34535 Gender:	Re: Aboriginal flag at Yass Soldiers Memorial Reply #72 - Dec 1^st, 2022 at 7:52am Boris wrote on Dec 1^st, 2022 at 7:45am: Daisey Bates and many others reported it And Daisy Bates has been thoroughly discredited by historians and anthropologists. But there's no telling you, is there. Or your dingle-berries.
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Reply #73 - Dec 1^st, 2022 at 7:58am

Her work is a priceless anthropological collection

Daisy Bates was a pioneer in the observation, over a period of 35 years, of the Aboriginal people living in the desert around the Great Australian Bight.

She has NOT been discredited - its just that deluded fools do not know the truth when they see it and want to hoodwink everyone with the Noble Savage myth.

Daisy Bates (1859-1951) was a remarkable ethnographer who spent all of her adult life living in Aboriginal communities around parts of Western Australia and South Australia. Her priceless collection of written records documents a great deal about the language and culture of the many different people she worked with. Her The Native Tribes of Western Australia (edited by Isobel White, Canberra: National Library of Australia, 1985) is a detailed collection about Aboriginal people of WA. Significantly, it is an edited version of all of her notes except the section containing thousands of pages dealing with Aboriginal languages.

In collaboration with the National Library of Australia (NLA), this project has made accessible this extremely valuable collection of several hundred wordlists of Australian languages, originally recorded by Daisy Bates in the early 1900s. This will enable reuse of the collection by Aboriginal people searching for their own heritage languages and by other researchers. The dataset has been constructed according to the Text Encoding Initiative TEI: P5 Guidelines, to embody both a facsimile of the original set of manuscripts and a structured dataset for complex research questions. Access to these historical records of Australian languages benefits from the interdisciplinary cooperation of linguists and musicologists with technology experts and with the premier collecting agency the National Library of Australia.

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Re: Aboriginal flag at Yass Soldiers Memorial
Reply #74 - Dec 1^st, 2022 at 9:10am

mothra wrote on Dec 1^st, 2022 at 7:52am:

Boris wrote on Dec 1^st, 2022 at 7:45am:

Daisey Bates and many others reported it

And Daisy Bates has been thoroughly discredited by historians and anthropologists.

But there's no telling you, is there. Or your dingle-berries.

Bollox, Mother Theresa. Controversial, not discredited.

Not the same thing,

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