Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 25^th, 2022 at 2:26pm:





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Doesn't look like the answers came.
Just more questions and so it will be year after year.

mothra wrote on Nov 25^th, 2022 at 5:31am:


Well you might advise Toodyay land "owner" Tony Maddox as to why he isn't able to do as he sees fit on his own land?

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Wollumbin is a National Park.

John Smith wrote on Nov 25^th, 2022 at 6:05pm:


Funny .... you've never done that. 

Well... "mothra" - I constantly make offers of land being given to Aborigines to build on etc... up to and including Aborassic Park - their own designated homeland run by their own rules... I offer a constant stream of suggestions that each group be given some freehold land of their own - yet you screech 'racist' every time I do that.

So - how does taking possession of Mt Warning - a NATIONAL Park and Icon for good reason (because it IS a special place for ALL and is already PROTECTED) - become the way to 'allow Aborigines to own some land'?  They can't build there... they can't - Jesus - agriculture or aquaculture there .. FFS THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING THERE ...its 'spirituality' is as apparent to EVERYONE as it is to them and they have been superceded by a different culture now ....

What could possibly be your argument?

I'll try again - give them Aborassic Park - their own homeland that Mansell wants and demands - where they can 'do things their way' without interference in any way from Whartey.... get back to nature as they reckon it was .... back to their Idyllic times... no cars, no cash, no foodstuffs, no healthcare, no boats, no fishing rods, no rifles, no Macca's .... easy as pie.... they can aquaculture and agriculture their way through that, surely - send Pascoe up to live there permanently to help them out.

I've suggested we take it from the Queenslend guv-mint that loves them so much, way up north there with a span across the mountains from the dry interior to a part of the coast - with access through for all others on designated easements, of course - nuff of this BS of handing over sand dunes to whiners and shutting off people from beach access... put a bulldozer through that I say.

What say you?  Are you onboard now?  Put 'em all on the trains and ship 'em out to The Park Paradise?  Or give 'em an acre of land in The Civilised Zone on which they can build and hold freehold at their own discretion and judgement.... a once only offer.  It's coming to that.  Win-win for everyone!!!!

How about - instead of this deliberately provocative handing over of NATIONAL Parks, the very best waterfront land, and such to a bunch of whingers who have no real and proven connection to that segment of the land anyway - every such group be given a fair amount of freehold land for their own use - make it or break it.... build your home there - sell it and it's gone and there is no more?

2% of the population cannot be permitted to wag the dog any longer without something breaking down.... and mumbo-jumbo BS is not sufficient to make it 'theirs' forever.

Time to grow up.         

I've come all the way around to the Open Range concept - everywhere is Open Range until fully owned freehold, which native title does not confer.

Give them their own freehold to build on etc, form settlements - ensure they understand they have the same rights to Open Range as everyone else, including, most importantly, great natural attractions.. naturally occurring features that NOBODY can lay claim of ownership to, since they are or soon bloody well will be, incorporated into NATIONAL Parks and thus are protected and sacrosanct from any private ownership claims - says again - ANY private ownership claims.

No way in the world should massive areas of Australia be fenced off and turned into private hunting preserves for a small group of lairds .... even if those 'lairds' are Aboriginal....

Time to close down closures!!

This is a movie filled with allegories for  modern times -  'originals' opposing anyone coming in or through ... originals taking control over law and law officers to impose their way.... tourists just wanting to wander through, take in a bit and move on and being attacked and told to stay out....

Forget skin colour and such - just put them into their respective positions in relation to closures and think it through.... those days are gone when you can just lay claim to the best and cut everyone else out... you no longer live by the spear and by invasion and empire/colonialisation, Jackie-Jackie... and I would not recommend that you try....

Your day is gone....

https://123movie.org.mx/movie/open-range-2003/

goosecat wrote on Mar 20^th, 2024 at 11:26am:



If what's happened around Uluru/Ayres Rock hasn't convinced you that it doesn't work here ... because they won't work.

The same has happened with many ventures within Arnhem Land .... whitey works the show ... they just want the cheques for piss money.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 24^th, 2024 at 11:39am:

Not sure, but I think gambling possibly works better on a psychological level that sees people showing up with money regardless of anything else (Big Rock or not). There's been plenty of attempts in the USA to generate income based on the Indigenous running their own "tourism" that have also eventually failed. You can debate the reasons for so much Indigenous tourism failure but in reality if we want them to have some sort of income (assuming society has decided it has to be), then gambling is closest to "free" money with little to no work required, that isn't a government handout.