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Question: Would you pay $25 to climb Mt Warning?

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Mark Latham challenges Mt Warning closure
Oct 27th, 2022 at 9:11pm
 
Maybe now we will get some answers.

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9670 - Environment and Heritage - ABORIGINAL PLACEMENT MANAGEMENT PLAN
Latham, Mark to the Minister for Aboriginal Affairs, Minister for the Arts, Minister for Regional Youth, and Minister for Tourism representing the Minister for Environment and Heritage
(1) Will the Aboriginal Place Management Plan (APMP) for Mount Warning effectively prevent the public from accessing that region?

(a) If not, can the Minister please provide the details of the APMP, specifically those details that impact on the public’s rights to enter the subject area?

(2) Which Aboriginal group will be the manager of this APMP?

(a) How was this group identified as the most appropriate to be involved in the APMP?

(b) Was this contested by any other Aboriginal groups?

(i) If so, which Aboriginal groups contested it?

(ii) What were the grounds of the contestation?

(iii) How was the contestation dealt with?

(c) How was the Aboriginal group assessed on its ability to manage the APMP?

(i) Did the Aboriginal group or any of its members demonstrate specific management skills suitable for administering the APMP?

(ii) How were those management and administration skills demonstrated and tested?

(iii) Were any educational or training programmes offered to the Aboriginal group or its members with respect to their future management and administration of the APMP?

(iv) Who delivered this educational or training service?

(v) How much did the educational or training service cost the taxpayer?

(3) Can the Minister provide details of any public consultations or liaison that occurred before the decision was made with respect to the APMP over Mount Warning, specifically:

(a) How was it advertised to the community?

(b) When did it take place?

(c) What form did it take?

(d) Who participated in it?

(e) What public concerns were put on the record?

(f) How were these concerns addressed?

(4) Were any submissions, objections or other concerns received from community groups or individuals with respect to the APMP over Mount Warning before the decision was made with respect to the APMP?

(a) If so, who raised these submissions, objections or other concerns?

(i) When were these received?

(ii) How were they dealt with?

(5) Can the Minister confirm that the image of Mount Waring will be copyrighted as a result of the APMP decision, or allow the image to be copyrighted in the future as a result of the decision?

(a) If so, who will be the holder of the copyright?

(b) If so, how is this justified considering the image is a commonly used identifier for the region by generations of its residents?

(6) In relation to any public infrastructure currently existing on the subject land:

(a) What infrastructure may be subject to removal under the APMP?

(b) What cost will be associated with the removal of this infrastructure?

(c) Who will bear the cost of the removal?

(7) What other regions in New South Wales may be subject to similar APMPs?


Question asked on 25 October 2022 (session 57-1) and published in Questions & Answers Paper No. 854
Answer due on 15 November 2022
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Re: Mark Latham challenges Mt Warning closure
Reply #1 - Oct 27th, 2022 at 9:54pm
 
Go get 'em Mark ....

Here be a chance to have a say, me darlings... some bloke in Coniston they say ...

https://chng.it/8MYLBhfh
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Reply #2 - Oct 27th, 2022 at 10:31pm
 
Mark is doing a great job

https://twitter.com/RealMarkLatham
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Reply #3 - Oct 28th, 2022 at 5:52am
 
oh mark, youre being too logical.

every mega rich hollywood type, the hemsworths, the paltrows, the crows, the matt damons , along with every woke big tech guy has a hideout near byron bay and back into wilsons creek, coopers shout , nimbin and mullimbimby.


and they are sick of the middle classes coming and camping and trekking and driving around in their dual cab utes.

they want the place shut down and locked up so they can have it as an exclusive slice of paradise.

australias version of marthas vineyard.

no roads in, no roads out, there hasnt been an aborigine in the area for 100 years.

kakadu would have a much stronger case for kicking out the tourists and probably will soon. thankfully i have plenty of contacts in the territory.
hopefully they will lcok the gate there and then all the chodes can stay at home and watch netflix (featuring all the movie stars who live at byron Grin Grin Grin)
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Reply #4 - Oct 28th, 2022 at 7:23am
 
Christ Mark Latham is a borf.

No surprises his aggressive, one-eyed, belligerent and underinformed position is endorsed on here.

Laughing stock everywhere else ... but a total hit on Ozpol.
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Reply #5 - Oct 28th, 2022 at 7:29am
 
Mothra do you support excluding people from National Parks on the basis of race and gender?
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Re: Mark Latham challenges Mt Warning closure
Reply #6 - Oct 28th, 2022 at 7:39am
 
freediver wrote on Oct 28th, 2022 at 7:29am:
Mothra do you support excluding people from National Parks on the basis of race and gender?



Do you tire of asking this question despite is being reductive?

Strike that. It was rhetorical.
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Reply #7 - Oct 28th, 2022 at 7:46am
 
Mothra do you support excluding people from National Parks on the basis of race and gender?

Why are you afraid to answer the question?
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Reply #8 - Oct 28th, 2022 at 8:01am
 
freediver wrote on Oct 28th, 2022 at 7:46am:
Mothra do you support excluding people from National Parks on the basis of race and gender?

Why are you afraid to answer the question?




Your question is reductive and dishonest.

Why are you afraid to answer as to why thatis?
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Reply #9 - Oct 28th, 2022 at 8:07am
 
I have no idea why you say that Mothra. Feel free to enlighten us, if you can string a coherent thought together.

Why are you afraid to give a straight answer? Are you ashamed of your own opinion?

Do you support excluding people from National Parks on the basis of race and gender?
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Re: Mark Latham challenges Mt Warning closure
Reply #10 - Oct 28th, 2022 at 8:20am
 
freediver wrote on Oct 28th, 2022 at 8:07am:
I have no idea why you say that Mothra. Feel free to enlighten us, if you can string a coherent thought together.

Why are you afraid to give a straight answer? Are you ashamed of your own opinion?

Do you support excluding people from National Parks on the basis of race and gender?


Why are you afraid to give a straight answer, FD?

Perhaps you're not even aware that your question is reductive?

Are you?

Should we start from there?
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Re: Mark Latham challenges Mt Warning closure
Reply #11 - Oct 28th, 2022 at 8:29am
 
mothra wrote on Oct 28th, 2022 at 8:20am:
freediver wrote on Oct 28th, 2022 at 8:07am:
I have no idea why you say that Mothra. Feel free to enlighten us, if you can string a coherent thought together.

Why are you afraid to give a straight answer? Are you ashamed of your own opinion?

Do you support excluding people from National Parks on the basis of race and gender?


Why are you afraid to give a straight answer, FD?

Perhaps you're not even aware that your question is reductive?

Are you?

Should we start from there?


Its just mothra freediver!

Same old nonsense every day that one cant make any sense of!

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Re: Mark Latham challenges Mt Warning closure
Reply #12 - Oct 28th, 2022 at 9:48am
 
mothra wrote on Oct 28th, 2022 at 8:01am:
freediver wrote on Oct 28th, 2022 at 7:46am:
Mothra do you support excluding people from National Parks on the basis of race and gender?

Why are you afraid to answer the question?




Your question is reductive and dishonest.

Why are you afraid to answer as to why thatis?


Cowardly, spineless, stupid nonsense, Mothra Theresa. 



"NPWS has consulted with the Aboriginal community about cultural matters and management of the park through the Wollumbin Consultative Group since November 2000.
"In November 2018, the group restated a long-held Aboriginal community aspiration for a strategic long-term program to close public access to Wollumbin."

The plan indicates this new signage will be placed at the base of the track:

‘You enter this Mountain breaking the traditional law and customs of the Bundjalung people and the sacred and significant Mountain, under the Bundjalung traditional laws and customs given to the 14 Bundjalung tribes by men. The past Elders of all the tribes agreed to shut this Mountain, and you walk this track without the consent of the Bundjalung people. As spoken by the Traditional Owners as to uphold our traditional laws and customs with the wishes of past Elders.’

Appendix B Baseline site condition report – Restricted to men.

Appendix F Plates from Baseline site condition report – Restricted to men.



Aborigines want to close it to the public. The NSW government is planning to accede.  Access will be restricted to Aboriginal men.  So access will be on the base  of race and sex.

Nothing else.


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Reply #13 - Oct 28th, 2022 at 2:22pm
 
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Aborigines want to close it to the public.

The NSW government is planning to accede.

Access will be restricted to Aboriginal men.

So access will be on the base  of race and sex.

Nothing else.





AUSTRALIAN HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION


Could the AUSTRALIAN HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION be 'enticed' to show any interest in the principle [inequality in access, for a differing races] that would be enforced in such a government ruling ?

......or is that a silly and naive Q.  ?

i.e.
Would all of the AUSTRALIAN HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION commissioners be wearing their 'rose coloured glasses', when examining such a decision by the NSW gov. ?




One nation.

One Law [for all].

[Constitutionally.....?]     All citizens must enjoy equality [in consequence], in the exercise, of any law of the land ?


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Reply #14 - Oct 28th, 2022 at 5:06pm
 
One man with the balls to challenge this BS out of the hundreds of other politicians and he speaks i am sure for 98% of Australians, this is my country. Looking forward to the response from Mark's valid objections, where does this BS stop.
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