Forum

 
  Back to OzPolitic.com   Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register
  Forum Home Album HelpSearch Recent Rules LoginRegister  
 

Pages: 1 2 3 
Send Topic Print
NSW Liberals endorse racist rent seekers (Read 1753 times)
freediver
Gold Member
*****
Offline


www.ozpolitic.com

Posts: 47364
At my desk.
Re: NSW Liberals endorse racist rent seekers
Reply #15 - Oct 23rd, 2022 at 6:41pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 23rd, 2022 at 6:37pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 23rd, 2022 at 6:35pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 23rd, 2022 at 6:21pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 23rd, 2022 at 4:06pm:
I would thou wert a coconut

I would thou wert a coconut
With sweet white flesh behind
This tough and browned cantankerous rind
We'd get along just fine

I would thou wert a reasoned mind
Who walked with equals of all kind
Alas I here but a steady cry
Give it all 'ere, it's mine!

Kipling?


Freediver.

With a little help from your friend, Kipling?


Inspiration, perhaps. Kipling is dead. Not conscious anyway. Is there a work of his that I am imitating?
Back to top
 

I identify as Mail because all I do is SendIT!
WWW  
IP Logged
 
freediver
Gold Member
*****
Offline


www.ozpolitic.com

Posts: 47364
At my desk.
Re: NSW Liberals endorse racist rent seekers
Reply #16 - Oct 23rd, 2022 at 6:43pm
 
Quote:
Public opinion demands it.


How do you know? The 'public consultation' process for Mt Warning deliberately excluded seeking the general public's opinion.
Back to top
 

I identify as Mail because all I do is SendIT!
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 80194
Proud pre-1850's NO Voter
Gender: male
Re: NSW Liberals endorse racist rent seekers
Reply #17 - Oct 23rd, 2022 at 6:44pm
 
What public opinion was that?  How was it expressed?  How was it collated?  What were the questions asked?  Does that mean that every person disadvantaged in the past now requires reparations?

This is like the sheila argument about 'lifetime earnings' - so every individual out of work for any reason must have reparations and affirmative action and so forth?

In return - are they handing back all the benefits generational of living the White Man's way?

Put it to a referendum of a fully informed people.....

Sorry - the people were never asked....... go do it now and await the result....
Back to top
 

“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
― John Adams
 
IP Logged
 
MeisterEckhart
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 10454
Gender: male
Re: NSW Liberals endorse racist rent seekers
Reply #18 - Oct 23rd, 2022 at 6:45pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 23rd, 2022 at 6:41pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 23rd, 2022 at 6:37pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 23rd, 2022 at 6:35pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 23rd, 2022 at 6:21pm:
freediver wrote on Oct 23rd, 2022 at 4:06pm:
I would thou wert a coconut

I would thou wert a coconut
With sweet white flesh behind
This tough and browned cantankerous rind
We'd get along just fine

I would thou wert a reasoned mind
Who walked with equals of all kind
Alas I here but a steady cry
Give it all 'ere, it's mine!

Kipling?


Freediver.

With a little help from your friend, Kipling?


Inspiration, perhaps. Kipling is dead. Not conscious anyway. Is there a work of his that I am imitating?

A catchy couple of verses - but we'd dare not speak their name in the public square.
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
freediver
Gold Member
*****
Offline


www.ozpolitic.com

Posts: 47364
At my desk.
Re: NSW Liberals endorse racist rent seekers
Reply #19 - Oct 23rd, 2022 at 6:47pm
 
I have no idea what you are talking about. Post them.
Back to top
 

I identify as Mail because all I do is SendIT!
WWW  
IP Logged
 
MeisterEckhart
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 10454
Gender: male
Re: NSW Liberals endorse racist rent seekers
Reply #20 - Oct 23rd, 2022 at 6:47pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 23rd, 2022 at 6:44pm:
What public opinion was that?  How was it expressed?  How was it collated?  What were the questions asked?  Does that mean that every person disadvantaged in the past now requires reparations?

The High Court struck down terra nullius, the Native Titles Act was born.

Just carry the cross, there's no turning back.
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 80194
Proud pre-1850's NO Voter
Gender: male
Re: NSW Liberals endorse racist rent seekers
Reply #21 - Oct 23rd, 2022 at 6:50pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 23rd, 2022 at 6:43pm:
Quote:
Public opinion demands it.


How do you know? The 'public consultation' process for Mt Warning deliberately excluded seeking the general public's opinion.


Same as every other such grant by an unelected body of public servants...... all tarred with the same brush... no dissidents allowed.

The general populace are excluded from any discussion or share in 'stakeholding' despite the fact that National Parks are for all.

When did you ever see an open invitation for any with an interest to put their side of the question?  where were the ads on TV, in the papers, or anywhere else?  Where was the coverage in the TV news of the call for comments and viewpoints from the entire community?

Sorry - this is not binding on those excluded.  If Parrot's Tits wants to divide the country into two groups by race, he takes the consequences.

How Dare They??  Nobody is stopping the Abos from using National Parks... why should anyone else be stopped from using them?
Back to top
 

“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
― John Adams
 
IP Logged
 
MeisterEckhart
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 10454
Gender: male
Re: NSW Liberals endorse racist rent seekers
Reply #22 - Oct 23rd, 2022 at 6:51pm
 
freediver wrote on Oct 23rd, 2022 at 6:47pm:
I have no idea what you are talking about. Post them.

Your verses are catchy.

Kipling was a stooge for the British Empire.

Take up the White Man's burden—
    Send forth the best ye breed—
Go bind your sons to exile
    To serve your captives' need;
To wait in heavy harness
    On fluttered folk and wild—
Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
    Half devil and half child.

...


Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 80194
Proud pre-1850's NO Voter
Gender: male
Re: NSW Liberals endorse racist rent seekers
Reply #23 - Oct 23rd, 2022 at 7:01pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 23rd, 2022 at 6:47pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 23rd, 2022 at 6:44pm:
What public opinion was that?  How was it expressed?  How was it collated?  What were the questions asked?  Does that mean that every person disadvantaged in the past now requires reparations?

The High Court struck down terra nullius, the Native Titles Act was born.

Just carry the cross, there's no turning back.


Native title was not ownership of a swathe of land simply claimed as freehold..... it was squatter's rights with a proven connection to that land and continuous residence/occupation.  You cannot have continuous occupation of a vast swathe of land by occasionally having a few of your group wander over part of it, same as every bushwalker cannot claim continuous occupation of that National Park land.  There is no basis for this kind of handover.  They are free to use it - and so is everyone else, as a National Park.

Even Eddie Mabo, though forbidden to go to his land, had family connected there, and there was no conflict of ownership, unlike Mt Warning.

National Parks are not available for freehold.... always was national land.... always will be.  This is nothing but a bunch of politicians and unelected public servants pushing on the people they are supposed to be working for some total change to suit a small minority.

Ne Passerons!

Throw out these governments, clear out the public service, and start again.

The answer is NO!  This is NOT the law - it is the steady erosion of that law and the gradual creep of interpretation by unelected public servants with an interest and without proper oversight and accountability to ALL stakeholders.

This is the inevitable outcome from a single stupid and half-baked decision by one court... and it must be set to rights by legislation that guarantees genuinely equal rights.  There is no longer any privilege of anyone here claiming all the land they can see just because they can see it.... those days vanished in 1788.

If the LNP does this - and Labor is the alternative government.... any thinking person must move to the extreme parties.

Both LNP and Labor have shown us repeatedly that they are the greatest dangers to democracy and to genuinely equal rights for all.
Back to top
« Last Edit: Oct 23rd, 2022 at 7:11pm by Grappler Truth Teller Feller »  

“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
― John Adams
 
IP Logged
 
MeisterEckhart
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 10454
Gender: male
Re: NSW Liberals endorse racist rent seekers
Reply #24 - Oct 23rd, 2022 at 7:16pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 23rd, 2022 at 7:01pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 23rd, 2022 at 6:47pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 23rd, 2022 at 6:44pm:
What public opinion was that?  How was it expressed?  How was it collated?  What were the questions asked?  Does that mean that every person disadvantaged in the past now requires reparations?

The High Court struck down terra nullius, the Native Titles Act was born.

Just carry the cross, there's no turning back.


Native title was not ownership of a swathe of land simply claimed as freehold..... it was squatter's rights with a proven connection to that land and continuous residence/occupation.  You cannot have continuous occupation of a vast swathe of land by occasionally having a few of your group wander over part of it, same as every bushwalker cannot claim continuous occupation of that National Park land.  There is no basis for this kind of handover.  They are free to use it - and so is everyone else, as a National Park.

The age of talking it away is over.

This is the age of reparations and any number of 'We are Australian' refrains is not going to change that.
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 80194
Proud pre-1850's NO Voter
Gender: male
Re: NSW Liberals endorse racist rent seekers
Reply #25 - Oct 23rd, 2022 at 7:20pm
 
No corporate and generational responsibility.  That's the end of it.  Your children and grandchildren should not bear the burden of the past..... National Parks are theirs as well ..............

That Rubicon is crossed.....

"Yea, though I walk through the shadow over the valleys of the National Parks, I will fear no evil, for my civil and legal rights are with me, my equality and citizenship they comfort me, and surely goodness and fair play will follow me all the days of my life........"
Back to top
« Last Edit: Oct 23rd, 2022 at 7:28pm by Grappler Truth Teller Feller »  

“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
― John Adams
 
IP Logged
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 80194
Proud pre-1850's NO Voter
Gender: male
Re: NSW Liberals endorse racist rent seekers
Reply #26 - Oct 23rd, 2022 at 7:21pm
 
When were these reparations made law after being put to the people as an informed whole?  What are the reparations for?

The victors do not pay reparations.

Just an arbitrary decision by government?  A great argument for a massive change in government.  If we get rid of the LNP, Greens and Labor - what's left?  Only the radical right...

You WERE warned a couple of years back by good old me.... so was Albo... so was Scotty... that a continuation of the mad 'socialist' rush to the extremes, using politics of division and policies of exclusion, would result in an extreme right government.

Here is THE example of division and exclusion.. of the majority, and it can only have dire consequences.

I cannot train fools.... we are either one country together or we are not.... and let the games begin.

You are warned again.

Back to top
« Last Edit: Oct 23rd, 2022 at 7:39pm by Grappler Truth Teller Feller »  

“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
― John Adams
 
IP Logged
 
John Smith
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 72209
Gender: male
Re: NSW Liberals endorse racist rent seekers
Reply #27 - Oct 23rd, 2022 at 7:24pm
 
I see the usual mob are still crying. 

Crappler has become quite an expert at playing the old white male victim  Cheesy
Back to top
 

Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
IP Logged
 
MeisterEckhart
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 10454
Gender: male
Re: NSW Liberals endorse racist rent seekers
Reply #28 - Oct 23rd, 2022 at 7:40pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 23rd, 2022 at 7:20pm:
Your children and grandchildren should not bear the burden of the past[/i]

That would sound rich to indigenous Australian peoples.

And to the Kurds, the Tibetans, Native Americans, native Canadians, native peoples of South America, the Palestinians, the Jews, the Catholic Northern Irish, the nationalist Scots, the Basques, the Catalans, the peoples of Africa...

Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
MeisterEckhart
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 10454
Gender: male
Re: NSW Liberals endorse racist rent seekers
Reply #29 - Oct 23rd, 2022 at 7:45pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 23rd, 2022 at 7:21pm:
When were these reparations made law


They were made required by fiat due to the march of history.

You will have to live with the fact you have lived into the age of reparations.

No Australian politician now or in the foreseeable future has a future in politics if they try a latter-day Knut stunt on this matter. If they survive at all, they will be at best an eccentric oddity.

Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
Pages: 1 2 3 
Send Topic Print