It feels like the middle of winter here and we just ended DLS, yet now it’s about to begin again this Sunday.
It puts us out of sync with Qld NT and WA.
How lucky they are to have constant time and no faded curtains!

It has been a cold start to spring this year. I had my doona off the bed and the ceiling fan operating. After a few nights of shivering, I shut off the fan. The window was open instead of using the fan. Cool mornings where I had trouble sleeping, including this morning. Even with the sun coming up earlier at this time of year, I have to sleep in with a bit of warmth before I get out of bed. Else I am too tired to do much during the day.

Daylight saving was an interesting concept to have in the late 1980s. But after a couple years of enduring 8pm sunsets/twilights in December to January, it was irritating for children and teenagers to get to sleep for the hour before bedtime. I remember my bedtime of 9pm was basically set by the time I was 9 years old. But, even with the sun down 90 minutes before that in November, you would need the cool change to start somewhere before 9pm. But that was just me. I got my required 8 hours sleep, even if I fell asleep by 11pm.

I felt sorry for those younger than me, trying to get to sleep by 8pm or earlier. "Why do we have to go to bed when the sun is still out?". Or there was the issue of living outside of SEQld's temperate climate and having to deal with days that are 30 to 35 degrees each day (unless it rained). That was a common issue from October until March.

I do not have an issue anymore with daylight saving time. But, I would rather we not have DLS in Qld. And SEQld can just adapt to issues regarding varying time zones with NSW in their own way.

Sophia wrote on Sep 29^th, 2022 at 11:27pm:


Yep, and here in WA we don't have to stay up until 2am to change all of the clocks at the start of Daylight Saving (and 3am to change them all back when it finishes).

That was sarcasm, by the way.

But, I did hear many years ago (probably during one of WA's DLS trials) that some people actually used that as a reason why they didn't want it. 

Stupid people can't handle daylight saving.

It messes with their heads.

I honestly think Qld could do with having their clocks moved forward one hour!
I’m up before the crows!
The daylight oozing through the window shades at 4.30 am!
Look at me posting in here so early!
C’mon Qld… you can do it!

Carl D wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2022 at 4:02am:


Yep, gotta love WA.

No DLS, no pokies in pubs, and no toll roads   

Carl D wrote on Nov 18^th, 2022 at 1:44pm:


True.

Not like the old days, when all we had was the Garratt Road Bridge.

Carl D wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2022 at 4:02am:


Over in the USA, some woman hated the end of daylight saving. She had to get up at 3am and put the clock back and hour. Then she had to get up again an hour later and do the same.

Can’t wait to get home to Melbourne so I can sleep in further than 4.30-5 am!!!
Geez what long days it is here in SEQ  which is good yet by 4 pm I’m pooped!
Queensland truly need to move their time in line with the rest of east Oz 

Sophia wrote on Nov 20^th, 2022 at 4:31pm:


If they did it may be daylight at midnight ? They sorta don't need to save any.

Am I due 50 years of daylight interest, a withdrawal or two and a curtain allowance?

UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 20^th, 2022 at 6:15pm:


Exaggerating but likely later than further south. No wrong - hey I was wrong that is unusual.

Closer to the equator there is less change obviously which is the reason that DLS is not required closer to the equator.

Dnarever wrote on Nov 20^th, 2022 at 6:26pm:


Right on the equator, the sun comes up and sets basically at the same sunrise and sunset every day of the year. The further south or north you go from the equator, the variations start appearing at different times of the year. Qld would get less daylight during our summer than does Victoria and Tasmania. But, Qld does get somewhat more daylight in our winters than does Tasmania. 9 hours of sunshine winter; 15 hours sunshine in the summer for Hobart. Rockhampton sees 13.5 hours of daylight in summer. 10.5 hours of sunlight in winter.

Given the hot weather we have in summer, we like to have our sunsets around the 7pm mark at latest, not 8pm. Rescheduling the clocks is just an irritation to people's lives.

DLS is retarded.

Belgarion wrote on Sep 29^th, 2023 at 3:09pm:

Aye.

It only crows when the sun shines.

Belgarion wrote on Sep 29^th, 2023 at 3:09pm:


Western Australia:

- no toll roads

- no pokies

- no day light savings

Loathe it - I'm a night owl and having to get up at the crack of dawn (hmmm)  to travel two hours each way for a doctor is way past it.

Gay weakling Peccary is curious folks.
Just like he was with his first anal excursion.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 30^th, 2023 at 8:39pm:


It's ok crappler   if you need 8 hrs sleep,  you'll still be able to sleep 8hrs.. i know right, why did no one think of that before?

if you still get confused you can unplug your alarm clock and put your watch in a drawer.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 30^th, 2023 at 10:51pm:


Wow, after decades of DLS nobody here knew how it worked until you told us. 


What a clown!

Bobby. wrote on Sep 30^th, 2023 at 10:51pm:


Do you get up at 2am to do it, or do you have a clock fairy?

Back when we had DLS in Qld (and the time when I needed 9 hours of sleep to function), that one day of the year putting the clocks forward was such an inconvenience to people who had school children needing to get up an hour earlier. We had to go to bed an hour earlier than scheduled on the night of the clock change, to get that 9 hours of sleep.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 1^st, 2023 at 4:15pm:

Would you like the Forum to permanently ban you if Trump became President again?
You've lied already twice about leaving... because YOU are a LIAR. 

John Smith wrote on Sep 30^th, 2023 at 8:54pm:



Duuuh - if I have to get up at five to meet an appointment rather than six - that cuts into my sleep.  That is part of my regular sleep time and so it has an effect.  What makes you imagine that a person will sleep according to the changed clock?

Oh, look - it's midnight instead of 11 am - I'll just go to bed like I normally do at midnight....

Some of you get dumber by the moment.... we know it's been a tough time for you all - what with Higginsgate trashing your cherished beliefs in saintly women, and now the voice madness headed for the grave ... but you could at least try... make an effort to think straight.

Here I was thinking it was only peccary, Aussie and mothra who had mentally/emotionally collapsed and become near catatonic and hostile at the same time after Higginsgate showed the truth about that fiasco and then the voice collapsed, and you had scraped through with some semblance of sanity left - I was so wrong there.

Nice of you to step up to the plate for them though.... but you have as much effect as a marshmallow on people and things here.

Jasin wrote on Oct 1^st, 2023 at 5:38pm:


Could you admit the very real possibility that Trump won't make it to the next election?

I too loathe DST.    

The idea of aligning waking hours to daylight hours
in order to conserve candles(!) was first proposed in 1784
by Benjamin Franklin.     DST was first implemented in
the US with the Standard Time Act of 1918, a wartime
measure for seven months during World War I in the
interest of adding more daylight hours to conserve
energy resources.

Australia introduced it because we're idiots—as compared
with the Northern hemisphere, the Southern hemisphere
doesn't require it.

There should of course have been a plebiscite held on its
introduction here, but the government(s) of the day would
not do that because they knew the no vote would win.

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2023 at 6:51pm:



You're so silly.

The summer solstice in Melbourne is the 22nd of December -
the sun rises at 5:55am  daylight saving time.
With normal time the sun would rise at 4:55am.

Let's call that 5:00am.
Since most people get out of bed at about 6:00am or later  -
a whole hour at least of daylight would be wasted without daylight saving.
It also means that after work people can still enjoy their lives with
some sunshine left to go out to the beach etc or
maybe mow their lawns and do something useful after work.

you are forgiven

namaste

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2023 at 12:29am:


Daylight saving is not needed in the tropics.

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2023 at 1:31pm:



It's just one extra hour of useful daylight when people would otherwise be sleeping.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2023 at 2:56pm:


Ah yes - PIPs - a Grappler Party platform plank....Popularly Initiated Plebiscites  ....

(No - a plebscite is NOT John Smith's or mothra's kind of parasite - same as a phagocyte is not a... you know....)

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 1^st, 2023 at 9:16pm:



if you're tired, You'll go to sleep earlier. It's not rocket science

Are you scared you might miss out on the chance of yet another post with you crying about aborigines?

Jasin wrote on Oct 4^th, 2023 at 9:24am:


and it gets lighter earlier,, so putting the clock forward one hour puts your clock in line with your bodies biorhythms dumbarse. You would know that if you ever had to get up for work

John Smith wrote on Oct 4^th, 2023 at 11:09am:

If you have to wake up very early for work, say 5am, summer sucks anyway because the sunset is very close to your sleep time if you're trying to get 9 hours, and DLS exacerbates that.

Jasin wrote on Oct 4^th, 2023 at 2:33pm:


Liar, I have never supported crappler

Bobby. wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2023 at 1:36pm:


The argument here is that people in southern states are not getting up an hour earlier and making use of those earlier sunrises.

Nearly 7pm and it feels like very late 'arvo'. 

Sunset 7.16pm here

John Smith wrote on Oct 5^th, 2023 at 9:15pm:


If you have a 9 to 5 job, and even if you were to take an hour to get ready to go to the beach, an hour more afternoon sunlight is not going to make a difference. And there is nothing wrong with going to the beach after sunset. I make a point to go to the beach once a month on a full moon. Not that I am trying to avoid people in town seeing me turn into a werewolf. But, the moon rising over the water is quite the spectacle.

Even then, there must be businesses all over the place needing to hold off their staff and keep them for later because their businesses rely on customers coming in at sundown. Socialising usually happens at the end of the day.

John Smith wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 6:08am:


The hour does make all the difference. That is the point. It is nearly 1pm here in the early part of October. Already, I can't wait for the sundown. I don't know where you live. But I would assume it is somewhere south of where I live. Ever since late September, the daylight hours in southern states have been getting longer than what we experience up here. Places like Sydney get 14.5 hours of daylight in December. We get 13.5 hours of daylight at the same time of year. If you cannot go to the beach or do whatever after work activity in the time you have in daylight hours, I do not see how the setting of the sun will stop you from continuing.

As for working 10 hours a week, I have just come back from 5 weeks of leave. And even with all that free time, you would not expect me to be out in the afternoon sun before 4pm. I don't need to hold off mowing the lawn for another hour, just because someone wants to walk in the daylight on the beach in some southern state. So, there's that.