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Pandemic is over in the US - Joe Biden
Sep 21^st, 2022 at 10:38am

It never started in the first place. The good news is they didn't get all of us with their poison jabs Wink

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62959089

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Covid-19 pandemic is over in the US - Joe Biden

President Joe Biden has declared the pandemic over in the US, even as the number of Americans who have died from Covid continues to rise.

"We're still doing a lot of work on it. But the pandemic is over," said Mr Biden in a television interview.

Statistics show that over 400 Americans on average are dying from the virus each day.

The head of the World Health Organization (WHO) said last week that the end of the pandemic was "in sight".

In an interview with CBS programme 60 Minutes aired on Sunday, Mr Biden said the situation was rapidly improving, even though a lot of work was being done to control the virus.

The interview - aired over the weekend - was partly filmed on the floor of the Detroit Auto Show, where the president gestured towards the crowds.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59991 Here Gender:	Re: Pandemic is over in the US - Joe Biden Reply #1 - Sep 21^st, 2022 at 10:56am He is just playing politics with technicalities. Funny thing is that many on the right are blowing up about it, yes that's right the same people who never believed that there was a pandemic now argue that it isn't over.
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Re: Pandemic is over in the US - Joe Biden
Reply #2 - Sep 21^st, 2022 at 11:52am

"Pandemic is over in the US - Joe Biden"

Has he sent a memo to Covid19 and told "him/her" the pandemic is over?

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Covid19
@friendlycovid19
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Sep 19
End of the pandemic party tonight at my place! Humans welcome, drinks on me! ❤️

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Covid19
@friendlycovid19
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Sep 19
Replying to
@friendlycovid19
Beginning of the pandemic party tomorrow morning at @BubonicPlague22's place! Humans welcome, pets encouraged! ❤️

Joe might also want to send a memo to Monkeypox asking "him/her" to stop spreading worldwide as well.

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Monkeypox
@mildmonkeypox

Just a friendly, orthopoxvirus joining the mild pandemic party 🥳

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Re: Pandemic is over in the US - Joe Biden
Reply #3 - Sep 21^st, 2022 at 12:34pm

Oh, and does it sound like the pandemic is over when about 3,000 Americans are still dying every week?

'Covid is not over': Top US health expert after Joe Biden's 'pandemic is over' remarks

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Even though the country continues to grapple with coronavirus infections, US President Joe Biden said in an interview aired on Sunday that “the pandemic is over." One of the top US health economists Dr Eric Fegl-Ding took to Twitter to confront the US President's ‘pandemic is over’ remark. The toll of the COVID-19 pandemic has diminished significantly but still almost 3,000 Americans are dying from COVID-19 every single week, the epidemiologist tweeted sharing a clip of Biden's interview conducted with CBS' "60 Minutes" program.

“Heck no. With all due respect, @JoeBiden — you’re wrong. Pandemic is not over. Almost 3,000 Americans are dying from #COVID19 every single week. A weekly 9/11 is a very big deal. Don’t even get me started on #LongCOVID—wreaking havoc on millions more," he tweeted.

But, I'm sure the majority of Americans will have swallowed the "Covid is over" Kool-Aid just like the majority of Australians seem to have.

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Re: Pandemic is over in the US - Joe Biden
Reply #4 - Sep 21^st, 2022 at 12:38pm

Carl D wrote on Sep 21^st, 2022 at 12:34pm:

Oh, and does it sound like the pandemic is over when about 3,000 Americans are still dying every week?

'Covid is not over': Top US health expert after Joe Biden's 'pandemic is over' remarks

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Even though the country continues to grapple with coronavirus infections, US President Joe Biden said in an interview aired on Sunday that “the pandemic is over." One of the top US health economists Dr Eric Fegl-Ding took to Twitter to confront the US President's ‘pandemic is over’ remark. The toll of the COVID-19 pandemic has diminished significantly but still almost 3,000 Americans are dying from COVID-19 every single week, the epidemiologist tweeted sharing a clip of Biden's interview conducted with CBS' "60 Minutes" program.

“Heck no. With all due respect, @JoeBiden — you’re wrong. Pandemic is not over. Almost 3,000 Americans are dying from #COVID19 every single week. A weekly 9/11 is a very big deal. Don’t even get me started on #LongCOVID—wreaking havoc on millions more," he tweeted.

But, I'm sure the majority of Americans will have swallowed the "Covid is over" Kool-Aid just like the majority of Australians seem to have.

Yes in Australia the death rate increased when it all ended. During the lock downs distancing etc we had around 3,000 deaths. It is now near 15,000.

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Re: Pandemic is over in the US - Joe Biden
Reply #5 - Sep 21^st, 2022 at 12:40pm

Shhh... don't mention BA.2.75.2 or it might upset a few peoples' Christmas plans (I've heard it's already arrived in Australia which is no surprise seeing as there is no more vaccination required or testing done for overseas arrivals and no more quarantine).

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Omicron sublineage BA.2.75.2 exhibits extensive escape from neutralising antibodies

And, more worrying is this:

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BA.2.75.2 was resistant to neutralisation by Evusheld (tixagevimab + cilgavimab), but remained sensitive to bebtelovimab.

So, not only are the newest variants evading the vaccines they're now starting to evade antivirals as well.

But... the pandemic is over, right?

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Re: Pandemic is over in the US - Joe Biden
Reply #6 - Sep 21^st, 2022 at 3:52pm

A long but interesting read.

Pandemic Nihilism, Social Murder, and the Banality of Evil

By Nate Holdren

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Every day in the pandemic, many people’s lives end, and others are made irrevocably worse.

These daily losses matter inestimably at a human level, yet they do not matter in any meaningful way at all to the public and private institutions that govern our lives. Our suffering is inconsequential to the machinery of power and to those who compose and operate that machinery.

This has been the case all along, but in this phase of the pandemic, our suffering has been nihilistically recast as not just inconsequential, but inevitable by the administration and the voices it has cultivated as its proxies.

This was written about the United States but it definitely applies to Australia (and most western countries) as well.

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Re: Pandemic is over in the US - Joe Biden
Reply #7 - Sep 21^st, 2022 at 5:30pm

Hmm...

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1572399879154171904

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Eric Feigl-Ding
@DrEricDing
📍CONFIRMED—White House COVID rules require that @WhiteHouse
reporters meeting with the @POTUS
are still required to get a same day negative PCR test, per @ddiamond
. Doesn’t sound like pandemic is over. #CovidIsNotOver

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1572400837858832385

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Eric Feigl-Ding
@DrEricDing
2) Also the estimated deaths in mid Sept also clearly don’t support pandemic being over either. #covidisnotover

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TOP 2 CAUSE—Oh hey, guess what was the #2 leading cause of death in the US on Sept 9? ~4100 deaths that week.

🔹1. Heart Disease
♦️2. #COVID
🔹3. Lung cancers
🔹4. COPD

Someone tell @POTUS
@JoeBiden
that pandemic is not over.

Doesn't sound like it's over to me either.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59991 Here Gender:	Re: Pandemic is over in the US - Joe Biden Reply #8 - Sep 21^st, 2022 at 5:38pm I don't agree with him but he is not saying that the risk or the virus is over only its status as a pandemic. Like I said I think he is wrong looking at the numbers but since they have not really done anything for a long time maybe he didn't have much option.
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Re: Pandemic is over in the US - Joe Biden
Reply #9 - Sep 22^nd, 2022 at 12:49pm

And..... here comes another one.

Scientists on alert as new Covid strain tears through ’multiple countries’

A new, highly transmissible Covid variant is now tearing through “multiple countries” – and it has scientists on high alert.

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A new Covid variant is ripping through “multiple countries”, with experts fearing it could be even more transmissible than the BA. 5 Omicron strain.

Named BF. 7 – short for BA. 5.2.1.7 – the new variant is spreading faster than most other variants of interest that scientists are currently tracking in the US.

While it accounted for 1.7 per cent of sequenced infections in America last week, it now represents 25 per cent of cases in Belgium, while Denmark, Germany and France have each recorded 10 per cent of the world’s identified cases, Fortune reports.

Dr Stuart Ray, vice chair of medicine for data integrity and analytics at Johns Hopkins’ Department of Medicine, told the publication the US Centres of Disease Control (CDC) recently named it as a separate strain after cases hit one per cent, with that figure expected to grow.

Meanwhile... "nothing more to see here, pandemic is over" is the ongoing mantra in Australia.

Especially with Christmas not too far away. I'm expecting to see Christmas trees and cards, etc. in stores any time now.

And, I've noticed all the Halloween rubbish is already in the shops - and Halloween isn't until the end of October (and it still has no relevence to Australia - except for the opportunity for shops to sell more useless, unnecessary junk).

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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30338 Gender:	Re: Pandemic is over in the US - Joe Biden Reply #10 - Sep 22^nd, 2022 at 8:52pm Why are you so obsessed with it still going on carl ?? Got some ulterior motive do you mate ??
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Carl D Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9971 Rivervale, Perth Gender:	Re: Pandemic is over in the US - Joe Biden Reply #11 - Sep 22^nd, 2022 at 9:00pm Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2022 at 8:52pm: Why are you so obsessed with it still going on carl ?? Got some ulterior motive do you mate ?? https://twitter.com/sasswashere/status/1572470429905817600 Have a good read of that thread, Sir Nail.
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Re: Pandemic is over in the US - Joe Biden
Reply #12 - Sep 23^rd, 2022 at 3:48pm

Carl D wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2022 at 9:00pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2022 at 8:52pm:

Why are you so obsessed with it still going on carl ?? Got some ulterior motive do you mate ??

https://twitter.com/sasswashere/status/1572470429905817600

Have a good read of that thread, Sir Nail.

a twitter feed Cheesy

LOL

the pot calling the kettle Cheesy

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Re: Pandemic is over in the US - Joe Biden
Reply #13 - Sep 23^rd, 2022 at 5:06pm

Ok, let's try it this way.

WHO chief says end of Covid pandemic ‘still a long way off’

The head of the World Health Organization on Thursday tempered his assertion that the end of the Covid-19 pandemic was near, warning that declaring the crisis over was "still a long way off".

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Last week, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus told reporters that the world had "never been in a better position to end the pandemic... The end is in sight."

And US President Joe Biden went further in an interview broadcast Sunday, declaring that the pandemic in the United States "is over".

But speaking to the media again Thursday from the sidelines of the UN General Assembly in New York, Tedros appeared less upbeat, making clear that "being able to see the end, doesn't mean we are at the end."

And we'll never be "at the end" here in Australia now that some of the last remaining Covid protections have been removed and with new variants on the way - variants that not only evade the current vaccines but are also beginning to make antivirals ineffective as well.

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