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Reply #15 - Sep 18th, 2022 at 12:21pm
 
John Smith wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 11:32am:
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John Smith wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 11:24am:
issuevoter wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 11:20am:
John Smith wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 11:02am:
how dare the ABC do a story with an opposing view  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Its not an opposing view. Its the Headline, it is being touted as truth and news, that 's what they do. Let's be honest, the ABC has a Leftist agenda.



and? They've done nothing but pro monarchy stories for the last two weeks. Are you afraid that people will find out the truth?


It suggests poor journalism. They are trying to tow the woke line. Someone decided the woke line had moved, so they all jumped. In unison.



Why? Are you arguing that the British empire is at it's peak? Or are you arguing that they hadn't colonised over 80 countries and now rule barely any of them anymore?


Anyone with eyes and half a brain can see what I am arguing. I highlighted it for you.
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Re: ABC pulls out the knives.
Reply #16 - Sep 18th, 2022 at 12:30pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 12:04pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 11:58am:
A Commonwealth is not a regnum ...... remember what Charles said to Ray Martin - "I'm not the boss!  It doesn't work that way."

What part of 'constitutional monarchy' with 'the people as sovereign' do you not understand?

Do you think someone between 18 and 25 remembers or cares what Charles said to Ray Martin?



That's what history is for - so that the kids can actually learn about reality for a change instead of living immersed in the emotion-laden and propaganda-filled environment they now suffer under, and from which they will eventually emerge after a lifetime of strife, unrest, disintegration, loss and suffering.

You can't put old heads on young shoulders .... most of those trumpeting the 'Cause' these days will find out eventually how wrong they are.... too late, of course and after causing much suffering to the undeserving - then they will be lambasted by the '18 to 25 year olds' who now know it all................ they will then be the generation that 'stole' everything from the newfers with their swollen heads filled with silly ideas  ....

The 'freedom of information' mode is fine apart from the old rule of 'garbage in = garbage out'.....

I would hate to be a kid these days trying to navigate the multiple strands of bullshit being thrown around every day... and all the politics of division and or identity that they are being forced to deal with ....

As for me - not my problem if you don't want to be he or she, and if you fail to understand the true role of the constitutional monarch... that of titular head without real power ... and yet some here are ranting in the streets about what a despot she was.

Go - tell it to the Spartans passing by in the streets and see how far you get.... I offer you the same as I said about John Howard years ago with his idea of declaring war on Iraq - he should be out on a street corner handing out pamphlets saying we need to invade, not sitting in Parliament as the Esteemed Leader and holding some kind of conferred authority for what was a lie and an insane act.  See how he would have gone then....

Get your heads out of your arses people - we are in interesting times.......
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Re: ABC pulls out the knives.
Reply #17 - Sep 18th, 2022 at 12:34pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 12:30pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 12:04pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 11:58am:
A Commonwealth is not a regnum ...... remember what Charles said to Ray Martin - "I'm not the boss!  It doesn't work that way."

What part of 'constitutional monarchy' with 'the people as sovereign' do you not understand?

Do you think someone between 18 and 25 remembers or cares what Charles said to Ray Martin?



That's what history is for - so that the kids can actually learn about reality for a change instead of living immersed in the emotion-laden and propaganda-filled environment they now suffer under, and from which they will eventually emerge after a lifetime of strife, unrest, disintegration, loss and suffering.

So you've forgotten what it was like to be 18 to 25, then.

Weren't you in that age bracket during the 60s?
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Reply #18 - Sep 18th, 2022 at 12:54pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 12:34pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 12:30pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 12:04pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 11:58am:
A Commonwealth is not a regnum ...... remember what Charles said to Ray Martin - "I'm not the boss!  It doesn't work that way."

What part of 'constitutional monarchy' with 'the people as sovereign' do you not understand?

Do you think someone between 18 and 25 remembers or cares what Charles said to Ray Martin?



That's what history is for - so that the kids can actually learn about reality for a change instead of living immersed in the emotion-laden and propaganda-filled environment they now suffer under, and from which they will eventually emerge after a lifetime of strife, unrest, disintegration, loss and suffering.

So you've forgotten what it was like to be 18 to 25, then.

Weren't you in that age bracket during the 60s?


I was always a thinker, not a drone... and I'm younger than that...  tail end of the sixties ... I had no fine revolutionary thoughts at that time, though most of those I knew did in one way or the other..... I am of more solid worth and consequently am by far the most revolutionary person currently... primarily because I've seen plenty go wrong...

Patience, young bull... patience..... it will all come clear to you, grasshoppers... I am not here to teach but to educate you.... what you know is within you... all you need to do is connect it properly......
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Re: ABC pulls out the knives.
Reply #19 - Sep 18th, 2022 at 12:58pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 12:54pm:
I am not here to teach but to educate you.... what you know is within you... all you need to do is connect it properly......

Yes, well... This is an electronic forum. There is no here and you, like all of us on this forum, are less real than a podcaster.
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Reply #20 - Sep 18th, 2022 at 1:03pm
 
The Grappler speaks and reads English. His spelling is not bad. Nice logo of his man cave where he hangs out. Can't write da lingo good.
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Reply #21 - Sep 18th, 2022 at 1:17pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 12:58pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 12:54pm:
I am not here to teach but to educate you.... what you know is within you... all you need to do is connect it properly......

Yes, well... This is an electronic forum. There is no here and you, like all of us on this forum, are less real than a podcaster.


Education is the same wherever it comes from...

Ah, yes - the old virtual reality trick, eh, Laszlo?  The Chief will be pleased....  strawberry fields... nothing is real....... nothing to get hung about..... while ever we can hide behind the squid's ink that there is no objective reality, the world will not fall in upon us....

Now, poppets - consider that simple concept in the context of the modern world of smoke and mirrors...... in that hall of mirrors can you spot the objective reality .... or merely a passing distorted reflection of it?

The greatest challenge facing modern humanity is whether or not it can remain sane.... one look at the 'issues' that people get so worked up about and you can see every edge of borderline.... one look at the 'justification' for all of those and you know you are looking at the madness of crowds.....

"Drink Entire: Against The Madness Of Crowds" ― Ray Bradbury, Long After Midnight.
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Re: ABC pulls out the knives.
Reply #22 - Sep 18th, 2022 at 2:04pm
 
John Smith wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 11:24am:
issuevoter wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 11:20am:
John Smith wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 11:02am:
how dare the ABC do a story with an opposing view  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Its not an opposing view. Its the Headline, it is being touted as truth and news, that 's what they do. Let's be honest, the ABC has a Leftist agenda.



and? They've done nothing but pro monarchy stories for the last two weeks. Are you afraid that people will find out the truth?


That's a lie. You are trying to bend the truth. The ABC has been reporting what happened in Britain concerning the death of the Queen, funeral arrangements and the ascension of Charles. None of which is "pro-monarchy," as you put it. In fact, their have been a number of references to Republicanism within these reports . . . and you know it. So don't waste your time with that BS.

Unlike Russia, China, or Pakistan, platforms exist in Australia where people can voice their opinions without intimidation. The ABC was never intended for the editorial staff to publish their opinions, statements, and innuendo which are clearly intended to sway public opinion, in this case against our British institutions and heritage.

And remember, any republic worthy of the name, did not come into being by deceiving the people into thinking they themselves inherently evil. They were rebellions against tyranny. I pity anyone who may think that we Australians have lived under the tyranny of Queen Elizabeth, whose reign encompassed a period of great social progress.
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Re: ABC pulls out the knives.
Reply #23 - Sep 18th, 2022 at 2:09pm
 
freediver wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 12:21pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 11:32am:
freediver wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 11:29am:
John Smith wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 11:24am:
issuevoter wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 11:20am:
John Smith wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 11:02am:
how dare the ABC do a story with an opposing view  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Its not an opposing view. Its the Headline, it is being touted as truth and news, that 's what they do. Let's be honest, the ABC has a Leftist agenda.



and? They've done nothing but pro monarchy stories for the last two weeks. Are you afraid that people will find out the truth?


It suggests poor journalism. They are trying to tow the woke line. Someone decided the woke line had moved, so they all jumped. In unison.



Why? Are you arguing that the British empire is at it's peak? Or are you arguing that they hadn't colonised over 80 countries and now rule barely any of them anymore?


Anyone with eyes and half a brain can see what I am arguing. I highlighted it for you.


You said it was poor journalism, not me. What part did they get wrong?
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Reply #24 - Sep 18th, 2022 at 2:44pm
 
John Smith wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 2:09pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 12:21pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 11:32am:
freediver wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 11:29am:
John Smith wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 11:24am:
issuevoter wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 11:20am:
John Smith wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 11:02am:
how dare the ABC do a story with an opposing view  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Its not an opposing view. Its the Headline, it is being touted as truth and news, that 's what they do. Let's be honest, the ABC has a Leftist agenda.



and? They've done nothing but pro monarchy stories for the last two weeks. Are you afraid that people will find out the truth?


It suggests poor journalism. They are trying to tow the woke line. Someone decided the woke line had moved, so they all jumped. In unison.



Why? Are you arguing that the British empire is at it's peak? Or are you arguing that they hadn't colonised over 80 countries and now rule barely any of them anymore?


Anyone with eyes and half a brain can see what I am arguing. I highlighted it for you.


You said it was poor journalism, not me. What part did they get wrong?


The bit about being good, independent journalists.

You wouldn't understand, but it has nothing to do with whether the empire is at its peak.
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Reply #25 - Sep 18th, 2022 at 3:17pm
 
issuevoter wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 10:43am:
Check out the ABC's top story. After a week of hypocritical politeness, the Leftists at the ABC are campaigning with anti-British propaganda, and they are trying to make it look like news. They don't mind lying either, saying Elizabeth "ruled" over an empire. She didn't even "rule" the Commonwealth. Expect more of this as they attempt to convince Australians that the British are evil, and we are evil by inheritance.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/

It was to be expected.
Now with Charles in, they'll bite the hand that feeds them.
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Reply #26 - Sep 18th, 2022 at 3:27pm
 
issuevoter wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 2:04pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 11:24am:
issuevoter wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 11:20am:
John Smith wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 11:02am:
how dare the ABC do a story with an opposing view  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Its not an opposing view. Its the Headline, it is being touted as truth and news, that 's what they do. Let's be honest, the ABC has a Leftist agenda.



and? They've done nothing but pro monarchy stories for the last two weeks. Are you afraid that people will find out the truth?


That's a lie. You are trying to bend the truth. The ABC has been reporting what happened in Britain concerning the death of the Queen, funeral arrangements and the ascension of Charles. None of which is "pro-monarchy," as you put it. In fact, their have been a number of references to Republicanism within these reports . . . and you know it. So don't waste your time with that BS.

Unlike Russia, China, or Pakistan, platforms exist in Australia where people can voice their opinions without intimidation. The ABC was never intended for the editorial staff to publish their opinions, statements, and innuendo which are clearly intended to sway public opinion, in this case against our British institutions and heritage.

And remember, any republic worthy of the name, did not come into being by deceiving the people into thinking they themselves inherently evil. They were rebellions against tyranny. I pity anyone who may think that we Australians have lived under the tyranny of Queen Elizabeth, whose reign encompassed a period of great social progress.



It's ALL pro monarchy. Why do you think Charles has spent every day since she died traveling the country trying to milk his mothers death for all it's worth.
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Re: ABC pulls out the knives.
Reply #27 - Sep 18th, 2022 at 3:29pm
 
freediver wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 2:44pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 2:09pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 12:21pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 11:32am:
freediver wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 11:29am:
John Smith wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 11:24am:
issuevoter wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 11:20am:
John Smith wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 11:02am:
how dare the ABC do a story with an opposing view  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Its not an opposing view. Its the Headline, it is being touted as truth and news, that 's what they do. Let's be honest, the ABC has a Leftist agenda.



and? They've done nothing but pro monarchy stories for the last two weeks. Are you afraid that people will find out the truth?


It suggests poor journalism. They are trying to tow the woke line. Someone decided the woke line had moved, so they all jumped. In unison.



Why? Are you arguing that the British empire is at it's peak? Or are you arguing that they hadn't colonised over 80 countries and now rule barely any of them anymore?


Anyone with eyes and half a brain can see what I am arguing. I highlighted it for you.


You said it was poor journalism, not me. What part did they get wrong?


The bit about being good, independent journalists.

You wouldn't understand, but it has nothing to do with whether the empire is at its peak.


your preference for royal sycophants is not a measure of good or poor journalism.  Roll Eyes
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Re: ABC pulls out the knives.
Reply #28 - Sep 18th, 2022 at 3:58pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 1:17pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 12:58pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 18th, 2022 at 12:54pm:
I am not here to teach but to educate you.... what you know is within you... all you need to do is connect it properly......

Yes, well... This is an electronic forum. There is no here and you, like all of us on this forum, are less real than a podcaster.


Education is the same wherever it comes from...

No it isn’t.
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Reply #29 - Sep 18th, 2022 at 4:06pm
 
'Prince William had converted a 'republican celebrity', former magazine editor Ita Buttrose to the monarchist cause. By "her enthusiastic endorsement of Prince William on Channel 9 on Friday 15 January, it seems that Ms. Buttrose has come back to the monarchy," Flint enthused.'

Charles fight with a leaky pen has pushed the monarchy out of the ABC window.
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