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History - Ripping Yarns
Sep 14^th, 2022 at 4:22pm

A thread for little-known but fascinating 'ripping yarns' from history, Australian and global.

I was listening to this Conversation now twice today, it was on the Sydney Local station before noon, on my way to the airport and then now on RN.

An Australian bloke can take credit for the election of Prez Kennedy Shocked

and another for the victory at Guadalcanal 9now Solomon Islands). plus a cast of other fascinating tales from the War in the Pacific.

Australia's secret spy ring
https://www.abc.net.au/radio/programs/conversations/australia-secret-army-michae...

Readers are invited to post their own links fascinating tales from history.

A bonus tale from Michael Veitch from an earlier Conversations, The terrible journey of the Ticonderoga.
https://www.abc.net.au/radio/programs/conversations/conversations-michael-veitch...

(I started this on the Philosophy board since that comes closest to History from among the existing boards)

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Reply #1 - Sep 14^th, 2022 at 5:21pm

I have just finished Veitch's book. A fascinating story about a little known part of our military history. Kennedy's PR macinie certainly played up his 'war hero' status in his election campaign. However even though he showed great courage after his boat was sunk, there was talk of him being disciplined for negligence. Seems he was sitting with two of his three engines shut down and was unable to maneuver out of the way of the oncoming destroyer in time. Given the notoriously unreliable engines on that class of PT boat there was SOP that the engines were not to be shut down due to the time lag in starting them up again.

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Reply #2 - Sep 14^th, 2022 at 5:26pm

Belgarion wrote on Sep 14^th, 2022 at 5:21pm:

I have just finished Veitch's book. A fascinating story about a little known part of our military history. Kennedy's PR macinie certainly played up his 'war hero' status in his election campaign. However even though he showed great courage after his boat was sunk, there was talk of him being disciplined for negligence. Seems he was sitting with two of his three engines shut down and was unable to maneuver out of the way of the oncoming destroyer in time. Given the notoriously unreliable engines on that class of PT boat there was SOP that the engines were not to be shut down due to the time lag in starting them up again.

Sums up the Media darling JFK alright.
Also a filthy sex addict who was negligent with his status of privilege and was thus knocked off by angry husbands who found someone to take the fall for such a glorious prize.

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Reply #3 - Sep 14^th, 2022 at 5:45pm

Belgarion wrote on Sep 14^th, 2022 at 5:21pm:

I have just finished Veitch's book. A fascinating story about a little known part of our military history. Kennedy's PR macinie certainly played up his 'war hero' status in his election campaign. However even though he showed great courage after his boat was sunk, there was talk of him being disciplined for negligence. Seems he was sitting with two of his three engines shut down and was unable to maneuver out of the way of the oncoming destroyer in time. Given the notoriously unreliable engines on that class of PT boat there was SOP that the engines were not to be shut down due to the time lag in starting them up again.

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Frank Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 40625 Gender:	Re: History - Ripping Yarns Reply #4 - Sep 14^th, 2022 at 9:54pm This is a ripping yarn by a literary master. Funny. (Save yourself an Audible subscription)
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John_Taverner Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2178 Gender:	Re: History - Ripping Yarns Reply #5 - Sep 19^th, 2022 at 8:13am It's about time somebody started a thread on history. I think it warrants a separate forum.
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Belgarion Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5310 Gender:	Re: History - Ripping Yarns Reply #6 - Sep 19^th, 2022 at 11:06am John_Taverner wrote on Sep 19^th, 2022 at 8:13am: It's about time somebody started a thread on history. I think it warrants a separate forum. That is a very good idea, I would like to see it happen. However given some of the people that post on here it would need strict moderation to stay on track.
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Frank Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 40625 Gender:	Re: History - Ripping Yarns Reply #7 - Sep 19^th, 2022 at 2:27pm "The 100 years ago show" has many, many ripping yarns or at least their headlines. Fascinating, instructive, entertaining. A gem of a listen. The musical interludes are a treat. https://www.steynonline.com/the-hundred-years-ago-show/
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Reply #9 - Sep 27^th, 2022 at 1:54pm

The namesakes
Some of history’s other Charles IIIs:

– Charles III, King of Naples (1382-86): forced Pope Urban VI into exile, then moved to Hungary, whose throne he had assumed through marriage. Was assassinated.

– Charles III, King of Navarre (1387-1425): made peace with France.

– Charles III, Duke of Savoy (1504-53): lost when France invaded Savoy in 1536. Remained king in name but spent the rest
of his life in exile.

– Charles III, Duke of Bourbon (1505-21): tried to regain independence from France by partitioning the kingdom. Fled to Italy when the plot was discovered.

– Charles III, King of Spain (1759-88): invaded the Kingdom of Naples and claimed it for Spain.

– Charles III, Duke of Parma (1849-54): placed Parma under martial law. Was assassinated.

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Re: History - Ripping Yarns
Reply #10 - Oct 1^st, 2022 at 8:49am

Belgarion wrote on Sep 19^th, 2022 at 11:06am:

John_Taverner wrote on Sep 19^th, 2022 at 8:13am:

It's about time somebody started a thread on history. I think it warrants a separate forum.

That is a very good idea, I would like to see it happen. However given some of the people that post on here it would need strict moderation to stay on track.

Did someone mention strict moderation lol?

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Reply #12 - Oct 1^st, 2022 at 11:12am

Frank wrote on Sep 27^th, 2022 at 1:54pm:

The namesakes
Some of history’s other Charles IIIs:

And then there was the almost-Charles III of Britain in the mid-18th century - Charles Edward Stuart or Bonnie Prince Charlie.

The memory of his legacy in Scotland was the reason royal commentators through the Queen's reign thought Charles would never use his own name as his regnal one, apparently preferring George VII.

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Reply #13 - Oct 1^st, 2022 at 11:50am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 1^st, 2022 at 11:12am:

Frank wrote on Sep 27^th, 2022 at 1:54pm:

The namesakes
Some of history’s other Charles IIIs:

And then there was the almost-Charles III of Britain in the mid-18th century - Charles Edward Stuart or Bonnie Prince Charlie.

The memory of his legacy in Scotland was the reason royal commentators through the Queen's reign thought Charles would never use his own name as his regnal one, apparently preferring George VII.

Oh how quaint. I had no idea other forum members were capable of highlighting the more embarrassing members of the German and French I mean English royal family. And yet ... here we are Roll Eyes

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Re: History - Ripping Yarns
Reply #14 - Oct 1^st, 2022 at 11:57am

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 1^st, 2022 at 11:50am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 1^st, 2022 at 11:12am:

Frank wrote on Sep 27^th, 2022 at 1:54pm:

The namesakes
Some of history’s other Charles IIIs:

And then there was the almost-Charles III of Britain in the mid-18th century - Charles Edward Stuart or Bonnie Prince Charlie.

The memory of his legacy in Scotland was the reason royal commentators through the Queen's reign thought Charles would never use his own name as his regnal one, apparently preferring George VII.

Oh how quaint. I had no idea other forum members were capable of highlighting the more embarrassing members of the German and French I mean English royal family. And yet ... here we are Roll Eyes

And Scottish. Are you aware of the Scottish House of Stuart's 18th-century claim to the Scottish and English crowns?

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