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Question: Does cultural Marxism exist?
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Reply #1800 - Apr 16th, 2025 at 7:03pm
 
I am not the one labelling people cultural marxists on no evidence whatever, certainly the high school dropout could not provide any.
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Reply #1801 - Apr 16th, 2025 at 7:09pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 16th, 2025 at 6:49pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 16th, 2025 at 6:08pm:
Again we see the poor little high school dropout avoid answering. Too stupid, too ignorant to gather real evidence and construct a sound argument.

Have you constructed a sound argument?

No.

You are just repeating your ignorance in lieau. Bbwianesque. Tsk, tsk  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Monk doesn't know.      Roll Eyes
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Reply #1802 - Apr 16th, 2025 at 7:20pm
 
LOL, what the high school dropout doesn’t know is legion.

It includes knowledge about or interest in the environment, nature. Weird eh?
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Reply #1803 - Apr 16th, 2025 at 8:26pm
 
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Cultural Marxism is everywhere.


Went fishing last week - Didn't catch any Cultural Marxists?  Maybe a cultural Mackerel ?
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Reply #1804 - Apr 16th, 2025 at 8:33pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Apr 16th, 2025 at 8:26pm:
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Cultural Marxism is everywhere.


Went fishing last week - Didn't catch any Cultural Marxists?  Maybe a cultural Mackerel ?

You are a duck. You have no clue.

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Reply #1805 - Apr 17th, 2025 at 1:16pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 16th, 2025 at 4:18pm:
Dnarever wrote on Apr 15th, 2025 at 6:55pm:
You guys know that Karl Marx died around 150 years ago right ?


Duckwittery.

Newton died 300 years ago. So Newton's laws of motion are obsolete??



Your error: eternal  laws of physics are NOT like pseudo 'laws of economics' which are man made.
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Reply #1806 - Apr 17th, 2025 at 1:36pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 16th, 2025 at 4:45pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 16th, 2025 at 3:47pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 15th, 2025 at 9:14pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 15th, 2025 at 5:42pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 15th, 2025 at 5:30pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 15th, 2025 at 5:28pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 15th, 2025 at 5:24pm:
TGD reckons he's not a cultural Marxist.    Roll Eyes


Why do you say that?

("Please explain"...?)


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Whoever came up with your quoted interpretation of what Marx said
is obviously a sinister, lying, anti-'communist' ideologue.



The quote is correct.   Roll Eyes


So you ARE a lying, anti-'communist'/Marxist ideologue....(or just low IQ....not sinister, just unfortunate; I forgive you).

"The principle refers to free access to and distribution of goods, capital and services".

What "principle"?

Certainly NOT referring to working for a living "according to his ability"...

"Please explain".....



No - you can explain your Marxist philosophy.


I explained YOUR error by referring to the quote supplied by Frank.

Marx was philosophizing about how work and reward for individuals  would manifest themselves in a future post- "vulgar socialist" society,  in a  true communist society ie "from each according to abilty" etc. ie,  fair/ethical  outcomes not determined by competition between individuals based on differening abilities.

Frank of couse ignored my response, thinking he had proved your case re "from each according to his ability" etc. that it meant "free" access to goods etc but if you read Marx's text, that is not the case, rather it means ethical access to goods and services in a post industrial society.

Meanwhile you didn't acknowledge the error in your absurd assertion "DEI is unfair",  when it is a-moral competition minus regard for just social  outcomes (eg freedom from systemic poverty) which  is the cause of economic unfairness.


I don't think you understood any of that quote. I supplied the link to the full text, maybe you want to have a look.
Just a leg-up: when he talked about vulgar socialism ( your kind of nonsense, the Greens' kind of nonsense), he said it Is just an adoption, unchanged, of burgeois production with socialist distribution tagged on (I  paraphrase).


I'm against a non-ethical, unjust distribution of a nation's production. I'm attracted to Marx's concept of 'ethical allocation' (as opposed to bobby's imagined "free" allocation)  of the fruits accruing to society, enabled  by the  participation of all according to their abilites. I understood enough of that quoted passage to ascertain Marx's ethics,  without needing to read more. 

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The 'each according to his ability' wheeze referred to a utopia, a sloganeering nonsense, a time when the 'engineersof human souls' have transformed everyone to some 19th century romantic ideal of " Rousseau as post-industrial Ubermensch" of sorts. That quote again:


In a higher phase of communist society, after the enslaving subordination of the individual to the division of labor, and therewith also the antithesis between mental and physical labor, has vanished; after labor has become not only a means of life but life's prime want; after the productive forces have also increased with the all-around development of the individual, and all the springs of co-operative wealth flow more abundantly – only then can the narrow horizon of bourgeois right be crossed in its entirety and society inscribe on its banners: From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs!


It's all nonsense by a graphomaniac autodidact with a bee in his bonnet - hence it's legion of followers and imitators to this day.


No, it's ethics is unassailable, even if the method to get there was ill-judged by Marx.

Q: how DO you engender ethical allocation of a nation's production, when  the 'grunt'-work is done by robots?   
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Reply #1807 - Apr 17th, 2025 at 6:52pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 17th, 2025 at 1:16pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 16th, 2025 at 4:18pm:
Dnarever wrote on Apr 15th, 2025 at 6:55pm:
You guys know that Karl Marx died around 150 years ago right ?


Duckwittery.

Newton died 300 years ago. So Newton's laws of motion are obsolete??



Your error: eternal  laws of physics are NOT like pseudo 'laws of economics' which are man made.

That wasn't duckwit's point. 


You - and him - have the amazing ability to ride two, three random horses with one arse.

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Reply #1808 - Apr 19th, 2025 at 2:03pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2025 at 6:52pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 17th, 2025 at 1:16pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 16th, 2025 at 4:18pm:
Dnarever wrote on Apr 15th, 2025 at 6:55pm:
You guys know that Karl Marx died around 150 years ago right ?


Duckwittery.

Newton died 300 years ago. So Newton's laws of motion are obsolete??



Your error: eternal  laws of physics are NOT like pseudo 'laws of economics' which are man made.


That wasn't duckwit's point.
 

It was MY point, namely, economics is not a pure science like physics  which establishes (hopefully) unassailable laws of the natural world.   

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You - and him - have the amazing ability to ride two, three random horses with one arse.


Your error: I'm arguing for Marxian ethics re a just allocation of resources according to the ability, effort and capacity of individuals in the nation's economy, in increasingly post-industrial socities. 


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Reply #1809 - Apr 19th, 2025 at 2:39pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 19th, 2025 at 2:03pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2025 at 6:52pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Apr 17th, 2025 at 1:16pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 16th, 2025 at 4:18pm:
Dnarever wrote on Apr 15th, 2025 at 6:55pm:
You guys know that Karl Marx died around 150 years ago right ?


Duckwittery.

Newton died 300 years ago. So Newton's laws of motion are obsolete??



Your error: eternal  laws of physics are NOT like pseudo 'laws of economics' which are man made.


That wasn't duckwit's point.
 

It was MY point, namely, economics is not a pure science like physics  which establishes (hopefully) unassailable laws of the natural world.   

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You - and him - have the amazing ability to ride two, three random horses with one arse.


Your error: I'm arguing for Marxian ethics re a just allocation of resources according to the ability, effort and capacity of individuals in the nation's economy, in increasingly post-industrial socities. 



Not a low of nature either, Marxist ethics. A fantasy.
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Reply #1810 - Apr 19th, 2025 at 6:26pm
 
Well - the poll is over.

Does cultural Marxism exist?

2 said yes, and 2 said no.

What should be the next exciting poll?
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Reply #1811 - Apr 19th, 2025 at 7:10pm
 
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Reply #1812 - Apr 19th, 2025 at 7:55pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 19th, 2025 at 6:26pm:
Well - the poll is over.

Does cultural Marxism exist?

2 said yes, and 2 said no.

What should be the next exciting poll?

You are a cultural Marxist, Booby.
Fifth column.
Coming from behind like a barber.

Bbwianesque.
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Reply #1813 - Apr 19th, 2025 at 8:06pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 19th, 2025 at 7:55pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 19th, 2025 at 6:26pm:
Well - the poll is over.

Does cultural Marxism exist?

2 said yes, and 2 said no.

What should be the next exciting poll?

You are a cultural Marxist, Bobby.
Fifth column.
Coming from behind like a barber.

Bbwianesque.



I call out cultural Marxism when I see it.

I'm innocent.
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Reply #1814 - Apr 19th, 2025 at 9:00pm
 
No.
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