Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Jul 31
st, 2022 at 12:33pm:
... and never moved forward of prospered for thousands of years -
Irrelevant;
the abo culture survived for many thousands of years, unlike many cultures which have come and gone even during (the 'brief' period of) recorded history, due to conquest or failure to adapt to environmental changes.
Quote: and is incapable of co-existing now, given that its adherents are incapable of doing what their ancestors did....
That's correct, which means assimilation will be the eventual fate of the abo culture, as it is for all human culture....
Quote:choice-mobile that is... nobody's stopping them from living their traditional way without all the white man's trappings - but they want all the trappings and the traditional way of 'let's do that hunting tomorrow' ...
Well...yes...that point needs to be clarified: do they want access to cars or not..... The answer to that question ought to be clearly stated by the abo MPs in parliament. Then we can all move past the eternal 'culture' nonsense.
Quote:They expect to have everything that the white man has without working a lifetime for it as the white man does. Life simply doesn't work that way..... you work for a living, divide.... what IS your problem...?
Addressed above. Clear recognition by abo reps. that the hunter gatherer culture is dead would be helpful
Quote:BTW - I posted a list of massacres - not only were they two way, but most often the attacks on Indigenous groups came about as a result of their attacks on settler groups ... not the other way around. Go dig it up - you might be surprised to see that a punitive raid went out after the killing of two shepherds or whatever.... the rule that you do not pick a fight with the gorilla in the bar applies here...
'Might is right'? Got it....
Quote:Past disadvantage - you reckon those men forced to take to the roads to seek work and leave their families behind in the care of the woman were not disadvantaged, humping their bluey down the road and begging for a bit of work at homesteads or a small meal anyway. Until Federation and Universal Male Suffrage, which was instantly converted by the vote of men into Universal Suffrage at the very first opportunity - the majority of people lived hand-to-mouth and often in miserable conditions.
Disadvantage - whether past (due to dispossession of land by force) or present, due to failure to prosper in the vicious neoliberal
survival of the fittest system, is still very real unfortunately.
Quote:I think you need to re-visit your history books, laddie. The PROBLEM, until recent times and now having gone backwards since the advent of feminism and its wedge politics and whining for privileges constantly, has always been the way the 'better offs' treated the rest - as just the lowest exploitable commodity.
Exactly; 'might is right'; 'he who has the gold makes the rules' etc etc. No need for me to read history to confirm that much.
Quote:It is a SOCIAL issue - not a racial issue.... as said -
Frank said it's a political issue, you say it's a social issue, you are both wrong, it's an economic issue.
"It's the economy, stupid." ...your evil
survival of the fittest economy, to be exact.
Quote:the Abos are free to roam around and do their own thing all they like without the white man's trappings and return to their golden age... as long as they now respect the rights of others as well, capisce?
Addressed at the top. We do need to clarify the methods for easing an anachronistic culture into the modern world.
Quote:The year is 2022 - we've had enough of wedge politics and privilege handouts ruining this country for the ordinary folk.
You are part of the problem. Hopefully at the conclusion of this debate you will acknowledge it.
Past tense also.....
most has been lost ... much of the rest bastardised to suit using modern material things from the outside world/western culture because it's so much easier.
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