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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30338 Gender:	No "VAX" for HIV after 40 years of research Jul 20^th, 2022 at 11:46pm And....
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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 25067 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: No "VAX" for HIV after 40 years of research Reply #1 - Jul 21^st, 2022 at 12:11am Strong ascorbic acid drinks.
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AusGeoff

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Re: No "VAX" for HIV after 40 years of research
Reply #2 - Jul 21^st, 2022 at 3:35am

Joseph Boaz (whoever he is?) has no idea of what he's talking about.

Coronaviruses (CoVs) are a family of viruses that cause respiratory
and intestinal illnesses in humans and animals.   They usually cause
mild colds in people but the emergence of the severe acute respiratory
syndrome (SARS) epidemic in China in 2002–2003 and the Middle
East respiratory syndrome (MERS) on the Arabian Peninsula in 2012
show they can also cause severe disease.

Covid-19 (SARS-CoV-2) is a variant of viruses first investigated 20 years
ago, which explains why new vaccines were developed so quickly under
an accelerated research program, by multiple global agencies.

I'm actually astounded that anyone would accept as accurate any medical
claims posted by some unknown conspiracy theorist nutter on Facebook.

Cancer, of course, is not caused by a virus... duh.

And WebMD says:  Drugs can treat and control HIV infection. People who
take antiretroviral therapy (ART) daily can lower the amounts of the virus
in their body so much that their blood tests don’t even show it’s there, and
they're at virtually no risk of passing the virus to others.

EDIT: I located this moron Boaz's Twitter page: https://twitter.com/BrotherBoaz?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5E...

You don't have to read far to find this gem, "If you do a 7-day fast, your
lifetime likelihood of getting cancer goes down by 70% or more".

It's a total joke from go to woah!    Grin

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 50568 At my desk.	Re: No "VAX" for HIV after 40 years of research Reply #3 - Jul 21^st, 2022 at 7:01am I think they have been trying to cure HIV, not vaccinate against it. In any case, if there was as much money in it, they would have done it. Covid put the entire world economy at risk. No other disease has even come close.
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Re: No "VAX" for HIV after 40 years of research
Reply #4 - Jul 21^st, 2022 at 7:04am

freediver wrote on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 7:01am:

I think they have been trying to cure HIV, not vaccinate against it.

In any case, if there was as much money in it, they would have done it. Covid put the entire world economy at risk. No other disease has even come close.

The 'Spanish flu' would have been a close second, if not the first.

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Reply #5 - Jul 21^st, 2022 at 7:05am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 7:04am:

freediver wrote on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 7:01am:

I think they have been trying to cure HIV, not vaccinate against it.

In any case, if there was as much money in it, they would have done it. Covid put the entire world economy at risk. No other disease has even come close.

The 'Spanish flu' would have been a close second, if not the first.

People were more tolerant of death back then.

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Reply #6 - Jul 21^st, 2022 at 7:09am

freediver wrote on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 7:05am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 7:04am:

freediver wrote on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 7:01am:

I think they have been trying to cure HIV, not vaccinate against it.

In any case, if there was as much money in it, they would have done it. Covid put the entire world economy at risk. No other disease has even come close.

The 'Spanish flu' would have been a close second, if not the first.

People were more tolerant of death back then.

There's truth to that. The 1957–1958 flu pandemic has virtually been forgotten. Just a handful of years after the greatest war in history, back then everyone was generally resilient against suffering and death.

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Reply #7 - Jul 21^st, 2022 at 8:03am

freediver wrote on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 7:01am:

I think they have been trying to cure HIV, not vaccinate against it.

In any case, if there was as much money in it, they would have done it. Covid put the entire world economy at risk. No other disease has even come close.

Of course they have been trying, desperately, to find a vaccine for HIV. And there is loads of money in it and loads has been spent trying.

I honestly don't know why you would assert otherwise.

It is because of the intricate defence mechanisms of the HIV virus, intense proliferation and the wide variation of strains that no vaccine has been forthcoming, nothing more.

There are numerous viruses which have no vaccines, not because vaccines aren't researched for these viruses but because the viruses themselves are difficult to decode. For HIV, for example, a vaccine would require an almost whitewash from the immune cells because of the nature of the virus. This is of course impossible.

The reason we have Covid vaccines is because work against these particular nasties was commenced over 20 years ago and it is a virus that lends itself to being controlled to some measure by vaccines.

There is no conspiracy here.

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FutureTheLeftWant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6625 Gender:	Re: No "VAX" for HIV after 40 years of research Reply #8 - Jul 21^st, 2022 at 8:12am Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 20^th, 2022 at 11:46pm: And.... My God you are mentally ill.... We don't need a vax for HIV, we've cured it, it doesn't kill anymore
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 50568 At my desk.	Re: No "VAX" for HIV after 40 years of research Reply #9 - Jul 21^st, 2022 at 8:16am mothra wrote on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 8:03am: And there is loads of money in it and loads has been spent trying. I honestly don't know why you would assert otherwise. I didn't.
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Reply #10 - Jul 21^st, 2022 at 8:17am

freediver wrote on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 8:16am:

mothra wrote on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 8:03am:

And there is loads of money in it and loads has been spent trying.

I honestly don't know why you would assert otherwise.

I didn't.

"In any case, if there was as much money in it, they would have done it. "

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Reply #11 - Jul 21^st, 2022 at 8:18am

mothra wrote on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 8:17am:

freediver wrote on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 8:16am:

mothra wrote on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 8:03am:

And there is loads of money in it and loads has been spent trying.

I honestly don't know why you would assert otherwise.

I didn't.

"In any case, if there was as much money in it, they would have done it. "

- Fleadriver

How's your reading comprehension Moths?

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Reply #12 - Jul 21^st, 2022 at 8:19am

freediver wrote on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 8:18am:

mothra wrote on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 8:17am:

freediver wrote on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 8:16am:

mothra wrote on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 8:03am:

And there is loads of money in it and loads has been spent trying.

I honestly don't know why you would assert otherwise.

I didn't.

"In any case, if there was as much money in it, they would have done it. "

- Fleadriver

How's your reading comprehension Moths?

Significantly better than yours, as usual.

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Re: No "VAX" for HIV after 40 years of research
Reply #13 - Jul 21^st, 2022 at 8:21am

freediver wrote on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 8:18am:

mothra wrote on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 8:17am:

freediver wrote on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 8:16am:

mothra wrote on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 8:03am:

And there is loads of money in it and loads has been spent trying.

I honestly don't know why you would assert otherwise.

I didn't.

"In any case, if there was as much money in it, they would have done it. "

- Fleadriver

How's your reading comprehension Moths?

Look the fact we can't turn ice cream into petrol means it's insane to try to turn oil into petrol. If one works and not the other, it's a CONSPIRACY!!!

How easy it is to create a vax for HIV has no bearing on the ability to create a vax for Covid when the whole world threw money at the problem

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Re: No "VAX" for HIV after 40 years of research
Reply #14 - Jul 21^st, 2022 at 8:28am

AusGeoff wrote on Jul 21^st, 2022 at 3:35am:

Joseph Boaz (whoever he is?) has no idea of what he's talking about.

No idea whatsoever.

For example, there are many vaccines for cancer (both preventive and therapeutic).

e.g. Gardasil 9:

"Gardasil 9 is an HPV vaccine approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and can be used for both girls and boys. This vaccine can prevent most cases of cervical cancer if the vaccine is given before girls or women are exposed to the virus. This vaccine can also prevent vaginal and vulvar cancer."

Where does lastnail find these lying idiots?

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