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Reply #75 - Sep 26th, 2022 at 7:46pm
 
eBike Batteries Are Catching Fire - How to know if you’re Safe


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Recently there has been lots of post on Reddit discussing ebike battery fires and explosions.
This is a real problem but if you follow certain battery safety tips
and buy quality ebikes you should be okay.

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Reply #76 - Oct 8th, 2022 at 12:19pm
 
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/waterlogged-electric-vehicles-spontaneously-ca...



Flooded Electric Vehicles Spontaneously Catch On Fire In Florida After Hurricane



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"There's a ton of EVs disabled from Ian. As those batteries corrode, fires start," according to Jimmy Patronis, Florida's top financial officer and fire marshal.

Patronis tweeted Thursday that after Hurricane Ian made landfall last week and flooded regions of his state, a bunch of electric vehicles (EVs) were caught in floods, batteries were waterlogged, and some spontaneously caught on fire.
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Reply #77 - Oct 8th, 2022 at 1:16pm
 
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UK companies are collapsing at the fastest rate since the height of the global financial crisis as surging energy bills drive thousands of firms out of business.
National Grid says households and businesses could be cut off for around three hours a day if Britain cannot buy enough gas and electricity from abroad due to global shortages.
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Reply #78 - Nov 7th, 2022 at 4:35pm
 
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Reply #79 - Nov 8th, 2022 at 12:06pm
 
Hurricane Ian in Florida gave EV owners a lot to think about.

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Reply #80 - Nov 8th, 2022 at 4:54pm
 
THE fire aboard the car carrier Felicity Ace in the Atlantic last week has once more focussed all the stakeholders in the auto shipping industry on the issue of what to do about EVs that spontaneously combust while being transported at sea.
The cars on the ship burned with such intensity that parts of the hull above the waterline melted.

All 4000 Volkswagen Group cars destined for the US market have been destroyed. The ship is a write-off and there is considerable downstream damage in terms of lost sales for both VW Group and its dealers. In addition to VWs, the cargo included 189 Bentleys and 1100 Porsches as well as Audis.

While it has yet to be established what started the fire, what kept it burning were an estimated 1000 EVs with lithium-ion batteries based on the fact that 25 per cent of VW production is now dedicated to EVs. 


https://premium.goauto.com.au/ev-fires-become-hot-issue/
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Reply #81 - Nov 8th, 2022 at 5:20pm
 
While spontaneous fire is a serious concern with LI batteries, I don't think it will change the direction of the automotive industry, which is toward EVs. They will just have to invest heavily in new battery tech like solid state and hydrogen. Around town, I'd rather drive an EV, but emergency services and the military would be foolish to think EVs are practical in their fields.
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Reply #82 - Nov 9th, 2022 at 6:45am
 
Frank wrote on Nov 8th, 2022 at 4:54pm:
THE fire aboard the car carrier Felicity Ace in the Atlantic last week has once more focussed all the stakeholders in the auto shipping industry on the issue of what to do about EVs that spontaneously combust while being transported at sea.
The cars on the ship burned with such intensity that parts of the hull above the waterline melted.

All 4000 Volkswagen Group cars destined for the US market have been destroyed. The ship is a write-off and there is considerable downstream damage in terms of lost sales for both VW Group and its dealers. In addition to VWs, the cargo included 189 Bentleys and 1100 Porsches as well as Audis.

While it has yet to be established what started the fire, what kept it burning were an estimated 1000 EVs with lithium-ion batteries based on the fact that 25 per cent of VW production is now dedicated to EVs. 


https://premium.goauto.com.au/ev-fires-become-hot-issue/



Good find:

A Greek ferry taking passengers and cars to Italy caught fire last week with 11 of the 290 people on board losing their lives.

While there is no indication if an EV started the fire (the company said the fire started in the vehicle hold) the fact that more and more EVs are going to find their way aboard these ferries as EV sales increase, is raising a red flag on public safety as well as the safety of ships at sea.
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Reply #83 - Apr 9th, 2023 at 6:55pm
 
Tesla malfunctions on highway, stops, starts smoking, and explodes roughly 16 times.
EVs are bombs waiting to go off.   


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Reply #84 - Apr 9th, 2023 at 6:57pm
 
Those lithium iron batteries are dangerous. They are like ammunition. And you can't use water to put out the fire because that just makes it worse Sad

They should have perfected Nickel Metal Hydride technology used in the original EV's now they have ticking time bombs everywhere Wink
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Reply #85 - Apr 9th, 2023 at 7:00pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 9th, 2023 at 6:57pm:
Those lithium iron batteries are dangerous. They are like ammunition. And you can't use water to put out the fire because that just makes it worse Sad

They should have perfected Nickel Metal Hydride technology used in the original EV's now they have ticking time bombs everywhere Wink



I'm not gunna get one.
They are death traps.
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Reply #87 - Apr 10th, 2023 at 3:23am
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2023 at 7:15pm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOA7qKMcjcE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_bZu1YN2CY


Another issue seldom discussed is the fact that the batteries in
these EVs can sometimes spontaneously catch fire hours later
after the initial thermal runaway has been extinguished. 

Still-active cells can cause this.

I've had three E-bikes which use multiple 18560 cells, and never
had any issues.  It's important with domestic batteries to ascertain
the manufacturer of the cells.  I'm currently using Samsung cells,
but there are far too many cheap and nasty, unsafe, knockoff cells
coming into Australia.   Caveat emptor.

A Tesla battery currently (pun?) contains around 7,100 of these
18650 cells.   My bike batteries have around 36.


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Reply #88 - Apr 10th, 2023 at 8:39am
 
AusGeoff wrote on Apr 10th, 2023 at 3:23am:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 9th, 2023 at 7:15pm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOA7qKMcjcE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_bZu1YN2CY


Another issue seldom discussed is the fact that the batteries in
these EVs can sometimes spontaneously catch fire hours later
after the initial thermal runaway has been extinguished. 

Still-active cells can cause this.

I've had three E-bikes which use multiple 18560 cells, and never
had any issues.  It's important with domestic batteries to ascertain
the manufacturer of the cells.  I'm currently using Samsung cells,
but there are far too many cheap and nasty, unsafe, knockoff cells
coming into Australia.   Caveat emptor.

A Tesla battery currently (pun?) contains around 7,100 of these
18650 cells.   My bike batteries have around 36.




Did you see this video?


https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/134/530/638/playable/338ae3...
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Reply #89 - Apr 17th, 2023 at 7:18pm
 
Where I work, we were developing an EV troop carrier.
I did some investigation as part of the risk assessment involved in manufacturing these things.
Turns out that even a discharged battery bank carries enough charge to kill a man with ease.
Fully charged, he is dead meat.

The procdures involved in;
Manufacturing the battery banks
Installing the battery bank's
Removing the battery banks
Reparing the unit after damage.
Even simple servicing, require so many safety protocols that it's like playing with dynamite.

The elephant in the room is who will repair, service or even install additional equipment in these time bombs?
I forsee many apprentices being killed before they grubberment gets its act together.

I still can't see any positives in these toys.
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