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Sprintcyclist Moderator Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39501 Gender:	Eckhart Tolle - 'A New Earth.' Jun 25^th, 2022 at 6:36pm Quite good. Listening to a podcast of him.
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Re: Eckhart Tolle - 'A New Earth.'
Reply #1 - Jun 25^th, 2022 at 6:52pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 25^th, 2022 at 6:36pm:

Quite good.
Listening to a podcast of him.

When you break Spirituality down into its physical form, just like Religion is in the form of a 'Book' or more.
It is in essence 'Fashion'. Fashion describes a person's or people's spirituality more than anything else.
The 'fig leaf' in the naked garden is a good example of where Spirituality and its Fashion have become justified. A 'naked person' in the woods - is considered Primitive and 'non-spiritual'.
Mind you, in very hot climates - less fashion is justified. But then jewellry and other adornments come into play.

Sadly for Sydney, it's spirituality is looking pretty confused and Gay come the Mardi Gras.
But luckily Australian Fashion is more than just a bunch of Homosexuals exploiting it just for their sexual activism.

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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.

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Jake Winker Frogen Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1480 Perth WA Gender:	Re: Eckhart Tolle - 'A New Earth.' Reply #2 - Jun 27^th, 2022 at 6:48pm It is just Buddhism without the hokus pokus. A frog jumps into a pond. Hear the splash. Really listen to it.
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random Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2637 Gender:	Re: Eckhart Tolle - 'A New Earth.' Reply #3 - Jun 27^th, 2022 at 6:50pm It's hard to go through life constantly amazed! It gets old quickly.
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 40427 Gender:	Re: Eckhart Tolle - 'A New Earth.' Reply #4 - Jun 28^th, 2022 at 12:04pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 25^th, 2022 at 6:36pm: Quite good. Listening to a podcast of him. Thanks for the tip. I like him. Alan Watts, too. https://youtu.be/WfVJUKlbWVw
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Re: Eckhart Tolle - 'A New Earth.'
Reply #5 - Jul 6^th, 2022 at 5:07pm

eckhart is the proponent of one of the 4 P's

presence

not ruminating on the past or thinking "i'll be happy when"

if you think "ill be happy when" you are forming pathways in your brain that tell your brain you arent happy now and those pathways are destructive.

so eckhart is correct.

the other 3 P's are

purpose (bounce out of bed with a plan)

peer group (have firm boundaries and do not allow negative people into your ecosystem)

positive life (which is the flip side of the above...seek out positive people).

the one thing that eckharts teaching could stuff people up is that he spent 2 years sitting on a park bench watching the ducks.

he is a very chill guy and obviously enlightened

but a lot of people might use his frame as an excuse to not be "action taking"

the big problme with emlightenment is that without being an "executor", enlightenment can look kind of like apathy.

its why i would study far more people then just eckhart.

probably the most nuanced of the 'self help" books is robert greenes 48 laws of power.

a masterful work. a new and modern "the art of war "

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Sprintcyclist Moderator Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39501 Gender:	Re: Eckhart Tolle - 'A New Earth.' Reply #6 - Jul 6^th, 2022 at 6:17pm Frank wrote on Jun 28^th, 2022 at 12:04pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 25^th, 2022 at 6:36pm: Quite good. Listening to a podcast of him. Thanks for the tip. I like him. Alan Watts, too. https://youtu.be/WfVJUKlbWVw Thanks, I will listen to Alan Watts
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Re: Eckhart Tolle - 'A New Earth.'
Reply #7 - Jul 6^th, 2022 at 6:24pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 6^th, 2022 at 5:07pm:

eckhart is the proponent of one of the 4 P's

presence

not ruminating on the past or thinking "i'll be happy when"

if you think "ill be happy when" you are forming pathways in your brain that tell your brain you arent happy now and those pathways are destructive.

so eckhart is correct.

the other 3 P's are

purpose (bounce out of bed with a plan)

peer group (have firm boundaries and do not allow negative people into your ecosystem)

positive life (which is the flip side of the above...seek out positive people).

the one thing that eckharts teaching could stuff people up is that he spent 2 years sitting on a park bench watching the ducks.

he is a very chill guy and obviously enlightened

but a lot of people might use his frame as an excuse to not be "action taking"

the big problme with emlightenment is that without being an "executor", enlightenment can look kind of like apathy.

its why i would study far more people then just eckhart.

probably the most nuanced of the 'self help" books is robert greenes 48 laws of power.

a masterful work. a new and modern "the art of war "

I don't think - nor do you, I imagine - that Echart, Watts et al teach others to be Echarts, Wattses et at. They are not operating in closed religious orders like Carthusians or Zen Buddhist monks.
As another one said, a pupil repays his master poorly if he remains merely a pupil. Each of us have to figure out how to bee ourselves ('self-realisation', dread word). What masters tell us is where to look fruitfully and that putting our hands in fire will really hurt. The rest is on us.

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Re: Eckhart Tolle - 'A New Earth.'
Reply #8 - Jul 6^th, 2022 at 6:29pm

good point frank

still, i do see people rationalise their unwillingness to really "go for it' as part of being spiritually awakened.

i dont think you can solve a problem until you transcend the paradisgm in which the problem was created.

for example, young men have a sex drive and a drive to be successful in $$.

now thats not spiritually awakened, but i think you have to go thru that paradigm, be successful in that paradigm before you can transcend that paradigm.

a guy who doesnt have social skills with women and doesnt have the ability to make cash, cant just skip those steps and go straight to reading eckhart or watts a(who i will have to investigate) , and then think he has "arrived"

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10454 Gender:	Re: Eckhart Tolle - 'A New Earth.' Reply #9 - Jul 6^th, 2022 at 6:41pm One Alan Watts line has stuck with me for years. "I'm reminded of a quote by Lao Tzu: 'Those who know don’t say. Those who say don’t know'; and yet, he said it.'
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Re: Eckhart Tolle - 'A New Earth.'
Reply #10 - Jul 6^th, 2022 at 6:44pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 6^th, 2022 at 6:29pm:

a guy who doesnt have social skills with women and doesnt have the ability to make cash, cant just skip those steps and go straight to reading eckhart or watts a(who i will have to investigate) , and then think he has "arrived"

Good luck thinking you've arrived listening to Alan Watts; he was a Zen Buddhist.

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