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Land tax on the family home
Jun 13th, 2022 at 8:51pm
 
SMH has been long pushing for a forever land tax on everyone to replace state stamp duties on property purchases. Perrottet wants this reform for NSW provided the Federal government gives the state a handout to cover any revenue shortfall whilst this tax is phased in .

This tax reform seems highly probable.

I'd like to read your opinions about this reform.
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Reply #1 - Jun 13th, 2022 at 9:12pm
 
Linus wrote on Jun 13th, 2022 at 8:51pm:
SMH has been long pushing for a forever land tax on everyone to replace state stamp duties on property purchases. Perrottet wants this reform for NSW provided the Federal government gives the state a handout to cover any revenue shortfall whilst this tax is phased in .

This tax reform seems highly probable.

I'd like to read your opinions about this reform.


'This forum' has some idiotic Members.  Put that in your homework.
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Reply #2 - Jun 13th, 2022 at 9:22pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 13th, 2022 at 9:12pm:
Linus wrote on Jun 13th, 2022 at 8:51pm:
SMH has been long pushing for a forever land tax on everyone to replace state stamp duties on property purchases. Perrottet wants this reform for NSW provided the Federal government gives the state a handout to cover any revenue shortfall whilst this tax is phased in .

This tax reform seems highly probable.

I'd like to read your opinions about this reform.


'This forum' has some idiotic Members.  Put that in your homework.


I suppose idiotic comments will be moderated. In any case, if there are a few genuine opinions on the topic , it's all good.
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Reply #3 - Jun 13th, 2022 at 9:50pm
 
Stamp duties are bad idea. They were supposed to be phased out when the GST came in. Not sure a land tax would be any better.
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Reply #4 - Jun 13th, 2022 at 10:09pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 13th, 2022 at 9:50pm:
Stamp duties are bad idea. They were supposed to be phased out when the GST came in. Not sure a land tax would be any better.


I would prefer stamp duty to a land tax that is likely to increase in the future.

Be nice if we had a government that didn't dream up new taxes and started controlling their spending.
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Reply #5 - Jun 13th, 2022 at 10:13pm
 
The Australian people have become addicted to free money. It has to come from somewhere.
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Reply #6 - Jun 13th, 2022 at 10:23pm
 
Most family homes are exempt from land tax under what’s
known as the “principal place of residence” (PPR) exemption.

More importantly, negative gearing must be phased out.
Speculators are a major part of the reasons that younger
people currently have even less chance of buying their first
home, and older low-income people are struggling with
increasing rents.
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Reply #7 - Jun 13th, 2022 at 11:12pm
 
AusGeoff wrote on Jun 13th, 2022 at 10:23pm:
Most family homes are exempt from land tax under what’s
known as the “principal place of residence” (PPR) exemption.



This proposal is to abolish stamp duty and replace it with annual land tax for the family home.

This will mean all residential property will be taxed annually instead of investment properties.

Land for Primary Production was exempt from land tax that will change if this tax replaces stamp duty.
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Reply #8 - Jun 14th, 2022 at 12:19am
 
AusGeoff wrote on Jun 13th, 2022 at 10:23pm:
Most family homes are exempt from land tax under what’s
known as the “principal place of residence” (PPR) exemption.

More importantly, negative gearing must be phased out.
Speculators are a major part of the reasons that younger
people currently have even less chance of buying their first
home, and older low-income people are struggling with
increasing rents.


Just found this clear explanation from the Reserve Bank regarding the distortive effects of negative gearing ...
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Negative gearing

The RBA argued that negative gearing – the ability to deduct legitimate expenses incurred in the course of earning income – was "an important principle in Australia's taxation system, and interest payments are no exception to this".

"It is worth noting, however, that the interaction of negative gearing with other parts of the taxation system may have the effect of encouraging leveraged investment in property," it said.

"In particular, the switch in 1999 from calculating CGT at the full marginal rate on the real gain to calculating it as half the taxpayer's marginal rate on the nominal gain resulted in capital gain-producing assets being more attractive than income-producing assets for some combinations of tax rates, gross returns and inflation.

"This effect is amplified if the asset can be purchased with leverage, because the interest deductions are calculated at the full marginal rate while the subsequent capital gains are taxed at half the marginal rate. Since property can usually be purchased using higher leverage than other assets that produce capital gains, property is especially affected by this feature of the tax system."
 

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I'd like to see land tax steeply ramped up on short term rental properties to free up well needed housing stock for long term housing.
And while their at it, a higher rate land tax for long term vacant properties! 

The Airbnb effect needs to be kerbed!
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Reply #9 - Jun 14th, 2022 at 7:49am
 
Yeah. Why should people be free to decide for themselves how to rent out their own property, or not.
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Reply #10 - Jun 14th, 2022 at 8:14am
 
Unlike rates, where you get something for your money, this new tax would just disappear into the fog of general revenue, which is open to all kinds of misappropriation.
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Reply #11 - Jun 14th, 2022 at 8:19am
 
I can see a lot of farmers selling to rich Chinese investors
And food production being ear marked for the Chinese middle classes

This must be a penny Wong initiative Grin
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Reply #12 - Jun 14th, 2022 at 8:26am
 
Linus wrote on Jun 13th, 2022 at 8:51pm:
SMH has been long pushing for a forever land tax on everyone to replace state stamp duties on property purchases. Perrottet wants this reform for NSW provided the Federal government gives the state a handout to cover any revenue shortfall whilst this tax is phased in .

This tax reform seems highly probable.

I'd like to read your opinions about this reform.


I pay land tax, obvs.  I liked the idea of it not being on the family home but I think a land tax is a good idea when so many can't afford housing, it lowers the bar and operates as a wealth tax, the best sort of tax
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Reply #13 - Jun 14th, 2022 at 8:26am
 
aquascoot wrote on Jun 14th, 2022 at 8:19am:
I can see a lot of farmers selling to rich Chinese investors
And food production being ear marked for the Chinese middle classes

This must be a penny Wong initiative Grin


yes, you seem quite dense. 
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Reply #14 - Jun 14th, 2022 at 9:14am
 
Whatever happened to the idea that -
you buy some land and you own it?

Land tax is a terrible idea.
I already know people who had to sell their house when they retired
as they couldn't pay their rates anymore.
As if exorbitant rates were not enough.  Shocked
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