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Why do the right always reach for violence?
May 26th, 2022 at 9:28am
 
I am on FB bans most of the time so I sent a PM to someone promoting Pauline.  I basically told him his views are dying out and society rejects fascism.  Rather than debate, he told me he WILL find me and kill me.  This is right wing politics, fear, hate and violence.  Why are the right like this? What is to be done?

My solution is simple.  Everyone gets a vote but it's weighted by IQ.  The Greens would be in power overnight and the right would disappear.
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Reply #1 - May 26th, 2022 at 9:32am
 
And you are telling us you are 53 years old.

Sorry mate but you act like a 15 year old.
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Reply #2 - May 26th, 2022 at 9:34am
 
You are putting yourself at risk.  NEVER ever PM a stranger on facebook!!!  Restrict viewing between friends only.
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Reply #3 - May 26th, 2022 at 9:37am
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 9:28am:
I am on FB bans most of the time so I sent a PM to someone promoting Pauline.  I basically told him his views are dying out and society rejects fascism.  Rather than debate, he told me he WILL find me and kill me.  This is right wing politics, fear, hate and violence.  Why are the right like this? What is to be done?

My solution is simple.  Everyone gets a vote but it's weighted by IQ.  The Greens would be in power overnight and the right would disappear.

There is no difference between extreme right and left. They are the same.

That has been proved on a macro level between extreme left and right autocracies.
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Reply #4 - May 26th, 2022 at 9:38am
 
Steampipe wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 9:32am:
And you are telling us you are 53 years old.

Sorry mate but you act like a 15 year old.

Yes, that's something I've suspected as well.

I'd bet it is a 53-year-old 'man' trying to emulate the persona of a 15-year-old boy.
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Reply #5 - May 26th, 2022 at 9:44am
 
tickleandrose wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 9:34am:
You are putting yourself at risk.  NEVER ever PM a stranger on facebook!!!  Restrict viewing between friends only. 


Let them come.  I don't care.  bugger the right.
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Reply #6 - May 26th, 2022 at 9:44am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 9:37am:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 9:28am:
I am on FB bans most of the time so I sent a PM to someone promoting Pauline.  I basically told him his views are dying out and society rejects fascism.  Rather than debate, he told me he WILL find me and kill me.  This is right wing politics, fear, hate and violence.  Why are the right like this? What is to be done?

My solution is simple.  Everyone gets a vote but it's weighted by IQ.  The Greens would be in power overnight and the right would disappear.

There is no difference between extreme right and left. They are the same.

That has been proved on a macro level between extreme left and right autocracies.


Explain how killing Muslims is the same as giving everyone medicine.  I wil wait.
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Reply #7 - May 26th, 2022 at 10:05am
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 9:28am:
I am on FB bans most of the time so I sent a PM to someone promoting Pauline.  I basically told him his views are dying out and society rejects fascism.  Rather than debate, he told me he WILL find me and kill me.  This is right wing politics, fear, hate and violence.  Why are the right like this? What is to be done?

My solution is simple.  Everyone gets a vote but it's weighted by IQ.  The Greens would be in power overnight and the right would disappear.



You have a very blinkered view. No less extreme than the right wing views you decry.

There is just as much fear, hate & violence from the hard left.

What are you going to do about that?

As for your stupidity in PMing a stranger to continue to enforce your opinion/views....

serves your right as to his response you deserved it dickhead.
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Reply #8 - May 26th, 2022 at 10:07am
 
Gnads wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 10:05am:
You have a very blinkered view. No less extreme than the right wing views you decry.

There is just as much fear, hate & violence from the hard left.

What are you going to do about that?

As for your stupidity in PMing a stranger to continue to enforce your opinion/views....

serves your right as to his response you deserved it dickhead.


Define the hard left for me.  Tell me the dangers they represent.

I don't care, he's welcome to come and try. 
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Reply #9 - May 26th, 2022 at 10:16am
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 10:07am:
Gnads wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 10:05am:
You have a very blinkered view. No less extreme than the right wing views you decry.

There is just as much fear, hate & violence from the hard left.

What are you going to do about that?

As for your stupidity in PMing a stranger to continue to enforce your opinion/views....

serves your right as to his response you deserved it dickhead.


Define the hard left for me.  Tell me the dangers they represent.

I don't care, he's welcome to come and try. 



You're a prime example.
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Reply #10 - May 26th, 2022 at 10:20am
 
Gnads wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 10:16am:
You're a prime example.


Right wing idiots always find fascinating ways to not reply because they can't.

Explain that
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Reply #11 - May 26th, 2022 at 10:22am
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 9:44am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 9:37am:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 9:28am:
I am on FB bans most of the time so I sent a PM to someone promoting Pauline.  I basically told him his views are dying out and society rejects fascism.  Rather than debate, he told me he WILL find me and kill me.  This is right wing politics, fear, hate and violence.  Why are the right like this? What is to be done?

My solution is simple.  Everyone gets a vote but it's weighted by IQ.  The Greens would be in power overnight and the right would disappear.

There is no difference between extreme right and left. They are the same.

That has been proved on a macro level between extreme left and right autocracies.


Explain how killing Muslims is the same as giving everyone medicine.  I wil wait.

Explain how killing millions in mass terrors, as was done in the Soviet Union and China under the CCP, is the same as providing cheap or free medical care under relatively centrist governments?
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Reply #12 - May 26th, 2022 at 10:25am
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 10:20am:
Gnads wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 10:16am:
You're a prime example.


Right wing idiots always find fascinating ways to not reply because they can't.

Explain that


I'm not right wing dipshyte.

You're whole attitude displayed here is a danger.

Your way or the highway .. everyones scum bs.

You're not a lefty ... just a delusional woke SJW.

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Reply #13 - May 26th, 2022 at 10:28am
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 10:07am:
Gnads wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 10:05am:
You have a very blinkered view. No less extreme than the right wing views you decry.

There is just as much fear, hate & violence from the hard left.

What are you going to do about that?

As for your stupidity in PMing a stranger to continue to enforce your opinion/views....

serves your right as to his response you deserved it dickhead.


Define the hard left for me.  Tell me the dangers they represent.

I don't care, he's welcome to come and try. 


Because people like you want to stir up hate between the left and right.

You describe the very worst of society then you label them as the right.

Next you find anyone that is not far left like yourself and you label them as the right.

So now in your world anyone not hard left like yourself is the scum of society.

So now anyone not hard left is scum.

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Reply #14 - May 26th, 2022 at 10:31am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 10:22am:
Explain how killing millions in mass terrors, as was done in the Soviet Union and China under the CCP, is the same as providing cheap or free medical care under relatively centrist governments?


The USSR was never socialism.  Also the death toll of communism is grossly overstated. Also no one on the left today wants stalinism or maoism

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Reply #15 - May 26th, 2022 at 10:32am
 
Steampipe wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 10:28am:
Because people like you want to stir up hate between the left and right.

You describe the very worst of society then you label them as the right.

Next you find anyone that is not far left like yourself and you label them as the right.

So now in your world anyone not hard left like yourself is the scum of society.

So now anyone not hard left is scum.



Right wing people threatened me and my kids when I spoke to them nicely in the mistaken belief they are human.  Anyone who wants to hate minorities is scum.  Everyone on the right is OK with that view, even if they personally don't quite hold it yet
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Reply #16 - May 26th, 2022 at 10:32am
 
Gnads wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 10:25am:
I'm not right wing dipshyte.

You're whole attitude displayed here is a danger.

Your way or the highway .. everyones scum bs.

You're not a lefty ... just a delusional woke SJW.



Centrists are the worst garbage.  'what if we compromise and kill SOME Muslims?'
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Reply #17 - May 26th, 2022 at 10:39am
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 10:32am:
Gnads wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 10:25am:
I'm not right wing dipshyte.

You're whole attitude displayed here is a danger.

Your way or the highway .. everyones scum bs.

You're not a lefty ... just a delusional woke SJW.



Centrists are the worst garbage.  'what if we compromise and kill SOME Muslims?'



You're a pharqing idiot.
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Reply #18 - May 26th, 2022 at 10:44am
 
Gnads wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 10:39am:
You're a pharqing idiot.


You trying to appease Nazis is something that never worked
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Reply #19 - May 26th, 2022 at 10:49am
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 10:32am:
Steampipe wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 10:28am:
Because people like you want to stir up hate between the left and right.

You describe the very worst of society then you label them as the right.

Next you find anyone that is not far left like yourself and you label them as the right.

So now in your world anyone not hard left like yourself is the scum of society.

So now anyone not hard left is scum.



Right wing people threatened me and my kids when I spoke to them nicely in the mistaken belief they are human.  Anyone who wants to hate minorities is scum.  Everyone on the right is OK with that view, even if they personally don't quite hold it yet


Do you hate the minority of the extreme right?.
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Reply #20 - May 26th, 2022 at 10:49am
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 10:44am:
Gnads wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 10:39am:
You're a pharqing idiot.


You trying to appease Nazis is something that never worked


Still a pharqing idiot
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Reply #21 - May 26th, 2022 at 10:50am
 
Steampipe wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 10:49am:
Do you hate the minority of the extreme right?.


Hating people for their choices is different to hating people for how they were born.

Paedophiles are a minority.  Just sayin'
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Reply #22 - May 26th, 2022 at 10:52am
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 10:50am:
Steampipe wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 10:49am:
Do you hate the minority of the extreme right?.


Hating people for their choices is different to hating people for how they were born.

Paedophiles are a minority.  Just sayin'


So do you hate anyone?.
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Reply #23 - May 26th, 2022 at 10:53am
 
Steampipe wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 10:52am:
So do you hate anyone?.


I hate people who harm others and destroy society.  I felt this was clear
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Reply #24 - May 26th, 2022 at 10:54am
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 10:31am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 10:22am:
Explain how killing millions in mass terrors, as was done in the Soviet Union and China under the CCP, is the same as providing cheap or free medical care under relatively centrist governments?


The USSR was never socialism.  Also the death toll of communism is grossly overstated. Also no one on the left today wants stalinism or maoism


Never socialism eh! That is exactly what it branded itself as and what the world made of it.

But, really, it was all political extremism, indistinguishable from (right wing) fascism.

Grossly overstated eh! So, not 100 million in total killed, just 85 million?

Many people today advocate for communism, despite the fact that it invariably descended into a killing machine indistinguishable from extreme right wing political ideology; and failed everywhere it was established.
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MeisterEckhart wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 10:54am:
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Never socialism eh! That is exactly what it branded itself as and what the world made of it.

But, really, it was all political extremism, indistinguishable from (right wing) fascism.

Grossly overstated eh! So, not 100 million in total killed, just 85 million?

Many people today advocate for communism, despite the fact that it invariably descended into a killing machine indistinguishable from extreme right wing political ideology; and failed everywhere it was established.


No, it didn't. Read a book.  The 100 million figure includes dead Nazis.  Are you sad about dead Nazis?

Explain how giving people medicine requires a 'killing machine'? Explain how it failed everywhere when it didn't.  LOL!!

Cuba.  Vietnam.  East Germany.  Where did it fail? The USSR was one of two superpowers for a generation.
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Reply #26 - May 26th, 2022 at 10:56am
 

"Why do the right always reach for violence?"


And celebrate it!

The NRA is holding a convention.

Nineteen kids and two adults get gunned down in a Texas school on Tuesday.

Nek minnit!

NRA 2022 Convention

The 2022 Annual Meetings & Exhibits will take place at the George R. Brown Convention Center May 27-29 in Houston, Texas. 

The Exhibit Hall is open all three days and will showcase over 14 acres of the latest guns and gear from the most popular companies in the Industry. 

From entertainment to special events, it’s all happening in Houston over Memorial Day weekend. 

Make plans now to join fellow Second Amendment patriots for a freedom-filled weekend for the entire family as we celebrate Freedom, Firearms, and the Second Amendment!
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Reply #27 - May 26th, 2022 at 10:58am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 10:56am:
"Why do the right always reach for violence?"


And celebrate it!

The NRA is holding a convention.

Nineteen kids and two adults get gunned down in a Texas school on Tuesday.

Nek minnit!

NRA 2022 Convention

The 2022 Annual Meetings & Exhibits will take place at the George R. Brown Convention Center May 27-29 in Houston, Texas. 

The Exhibit Hall is open all three days and will showcase over 14 acres of the latest guns and gear from the most popular companies in the Industry. 

From entertainment to special events, it’s all happening in Houston over Memorial Day weekend. 

Make plans now to join fellow Second Amendment patriots for a freedom-filled weekend for the entire family as we celebrate Freedom, Firearms, and the Second Amendment!


Exactly. The right want to rule by force and harm those who disagree

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FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 10:56am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 10:54am:
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Never socialism eh! That is exactly what it branded itself as and what the world made of it.

But, really, it was all political extremism, indistinguishable from (right wing) fascism.

Grossly overstated eh! So, not 100 million in total killed, just 85 million?

Many people today advocate for communism, despite the fact that it invariably descended into a killing machine indistinguishable from extreme right wing political ideology; and failed everywhere it was established.


No, it didn't. Read a book.  The 100 million figure includes dead Nazis.  Are you sad about dead Nazis?

Explain how giving people medicine requires a 'killing machine'? Explain how it failed everywhere when it didn't.  LOL!!

Cuba.  Vietnam.  East Germany.  Where did it fail? The USSR was one of two superpowers for a generation.

Yes, it did. Lenin, Stalin and Mao and their ideologies collectively murdered somewhere in the vicinity of 100 million people.

Even Khrushchev, at near-death, confessed his actions as a communist leader left him 'up to his elbows in blood'.
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Reply #29 - May 26th, 2022 at 11:02am
 
Steampipe wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 9:32am:
And you are telling us you are 53 years old.

Sorry mate but you act like a 15 year old.

There's another poster here who claims he's in his early 50s, married with 2 kids.

Coincidence!?
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FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 10:53am:
Steampipe wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 10:52am:
So do you hate anyone?.


I hate people who harm others and destroy society.  I felt this was clear


Do you hate people that hate gays and want to kill them?.
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MeisterEckhart wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:01am:
Yes, it did. Lenin, Stalin and Mao and their ideologies collectively murdered somewhere in the vicinity of 100 million people.

Even Khrushchev, at near-death, confessed his actions as a communist leader left him 'up to his elbows in blood'.


I see you are a smacking idiot.  The 100 million number comes from one book.  They invented the number and tried to justify it.  It was cold war propaganda. They included dead Nazis as an outrage of communism
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Steampipe wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:03am:
Do you hate people that hate gays and want to kill them?.


Did I vote for Pauline Hanson?

Are you going to lie about Che Guevara next? LOL!!
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FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:03am:
Steampipe wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:03am:
Do you hate people that hate gays and want to kill them?.


Did I vote for Pauline Hanson?

Are you going to lie about Che Guevara next? LOL!!


I thought you would evade that question, a bit to hard to answer is it.
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Reply #34 - May 26th, 2022 at 11:07am
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:03am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:01am:
Yes, it did. Lenin, Stalin and Mao and their ideologies collectively murdered somewhere in the vicinity of 100 million people.

Even Khrushchev, at near-death, confessed his actions as a communist leader left him 'up to his elbows in blood'.


I see you are a smacking idiot.  The 100 million number comes from one book.  They invented the number and tried to justify it.  It was cold war propaganda.

Did they?

How many do you estimate were killed?
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Reply #35 - May 26th, 2022 at 11:08am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:02am:
Steampipe wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 9:32am:
And you are telling us you are 53 years old.

Sorry mate but you act like a 15 year old.

There's another poster here who claims he's in his early 50s, married with 2 kids.

Coincidence!?

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MeisterEckhart wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:07am:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:03am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:01am:
Yes, it did. Lenin, Stalin and Mao and their ideologies collectively murdered somewhere in the vicinity of 100 million people.

Even Khrushchev, at near-death, confessed his actions as a communist leader left him 'up to his elbows in blood'.


I see you are a smacking idiot.  The 100 million number comes from one book.  They invented the number and tried to justify it.  It was cold war propaganda.

Did they?

How many do you estimate were killed?


Less than capitalism has killed.
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Reply #37 - May 26th, 2022 at 11:13am
 
Steampipe wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:05am:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:03am:
Steampipe wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:03am:
Do you hate people that hate gays and want to kill them?.


Did I vote for Pauline Hanson?

Are you going to lie about Che Guevara next? LOL!!


I thought you would evade that question, a bit to hard to answer is it.


I saw where you were trying to go and what lie you were digging up
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MeisterEckhart wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:08am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:02am:
Steampipe wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 9:32am:
And you are telling us you are 53 years old.

Sorry mate but you act like a 15 year old.

There's another poster here who claims he's in his early 50s, married with 2 kids.

Coincidence!?

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FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:13am:
Steampipe wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:05am:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:03am:
Steampipe wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:03am:
Do you hate people that hate gays and want to kill them?.


Did I vote for Pauline Hanson?

Are you going to lie about Che Guevara next? LOL!!


I thought you would evade that question, a bit to hard to answer is it.


I saw where you were trying to go and what lie you were digging up


Still not going to answer, I wonder what could be the reason.
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Reply #40 - May 26th, 2022 at 11:19am
 
If you want violent people - go to the NT


"10 Times higher: The likelihood an Aboriginal youth is a victim of proven abuse or neglect, compared to their white peer. [1]
4 Times higher: The probability of an Aboriginal child under 5 years to die as a result of assaults, compared to their white peer. [2]
1.8 Times higher: The likelihood that an Aboriginal baby is neglected or abused, compared to a non-Aboriginal baby. [3]
40% Percentage Indigenous children make up of all hospital admissions in the age group 0 to 4 who are admitted for assault. [3]
45 Times higher: The probability of an Aboriginal women living in rural and remote areas to experience domestic violence, compared to their white peers. [9]
35 Times higher: The likelihood that an Aboriginal women is hospitalised due to family violence, compared to a non-Aboriginal woman. [10] Other sources report a figure of 23 times. [11]
11 Times higher: The probability that an Aboriginal woman is killed as a result of violent assault. [12] Same figure for Western Australia: 17.5 times. [13]
2.6 Average number of women per day seeking treatment for domestic violence related injuries in Alice Springs (between 2000 and 2006). [14]
1,500 Number of people admitted to Alice Springs hospital between 1998 and 2005 with stab wounds. In 2007 Alice Springs was said to have the highest number of stabbings in the world. [4] Most stab wounds were in the thigh due to cultural practices.
$13.6b Estimated cost of all domestic violence against women and their children to the Australian economy in 2008-9. [5]


Read it and weep.  Just more 'made up figures' from the Abos themselves, eh?
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Reply #41 - May 26th, 2022 at 11:22am
 
Steampipe wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:19am:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:13am:
Steampipe wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:05am:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:03am:
Steampipe wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:03am:
Do you hate people that hate gays and want to kill them?.


Did I vote for Pauline Hanson?

Are you going to lie about Che Guevara next? LOL!!


I thought you would evade that question, a bit to hard to answer is it.


I saw where you were trying to go and what lie you were digging up


Still not going to answer, I wonder what could be the reason.


Native English speakers would understand I gave a clear answer
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Reply #42 - May 26th, 2022 at 11:22am
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:12am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:07am:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:03am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:01am:
Yes, it did. Lenin, Stalin and Mao and their ideologies collectively murdered somewhere in the vicinity of 100 million people.

Even Khrushchev, at near-death, confessed his actions as a communist leader left him 'up to his elbows in blood'.


I see you are a smacking idiot.  The 100 million number comes from one book.  They invented the number and tried to justify it.  It was cold war propaganda.

Did they?

How many do you estimate were killed?


Less than capitalism has killed.

Based on?
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Boris wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:19am:
If you want violent people - go to the NT


"10 Times higher: The likelihood an Aboriginal youth is a victim of proven abuse or neglect, compared to their white peer. [1]
4 Times higher: The probability of an Aboriginal child under 5 years to die as a result of assaults, compared to their white peer. [2]
1.8 Times higher: The likelihood that an Aboriginal baby is neglected or abused, compared to a non-Aboriginal baby. [3]
40% Percentage Indigenous children make up of all hospital admissions in the age group 0 to 4 who are admitted for assault. [3]
45 Times higher: The probability of an Aboriginal women living in rural and remote areas to experience domestic violence, compared to their white peers. [9]
35 Times higher: The likelihood that an Aboriginal women is hospitalised due to family violence, compared to a non-Aboriginal woman. [10] Other sources report a figure of 23 times. [11]
11 Times higher: The probability that an Aboriginal woman is killed as a result of violent assault. [12] Same figure for Western Australia: 17.5 times. [13]
2.6 Average number of women per day seeking treatment for domestic violence related injuries in Alice Springs (between 2000 and 2006). [14]
1,500 Number of people admitted to Alice Springs hospital between 1998 and 2005 with stab wounds. In 2007 Alice Springs was said to have the highest number of stabbings in the world. [4] Most stab wounds were in the thigh due to cultural practices.
$13.6b Estimated cost of all domestic violence against women and their children to the Australian economy in 2008-9. [5]


Read it and weep.  Just more 'made up figures' from the Abos themselves, eh?


This is a mishmash of figures, clearly DV against Aboriginal women in remote settlements does not cost us much money

Assuming all of this is correct, why do you think that is?
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Reply #44 - May 26th, 2022 at 11:54am
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:22am:
Native English speakers would understand I gave a clear answer



Uh-oh, the hoof of unconscious cultural chauvinism is showing there. "Othering" and deprecating the "other".    Now suddenly there "us the Natives" and then the others, the "outsiders".  Tsk, tsk  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #45 - May 26th, 2022 at 11:55am
 
Frank wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:54am:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:22am:
Native English speakers would understand I gave a clear answer



Uh-oh, the hoof of unconscious cultural chauvinism is showing there. "Othering" and deprecating the "other".    Now suddenly there "us the Natives" and then the others, the "outsiders".  Tsk, tsk  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Just pointing out you were probably born here and still illiterate...
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You mean like tearing down statues, defacing them, rioting and burning in the streets, protesting peacefully by bashing any 'opposition', carrying on semi-concealed campaigns of pursuit of supremacy of their 'way' (Leftland Uber Alles), infiltrating the political sphere and using shame and lies to influence the nodding clown heads in politics to lean their way, infiltrating the media and bending them the same way with cries of victimhood (that mostly doesn't exist), and acting and arming themselves against the day when they can become an effective Fifth Column here and elsewhere?

Trannies are bashed daily, you know - such victims - never seen or heard of one 'bashed' myself.... all 170 of them in Australia....

Muslims are oppressed - gangs of white supremacists out there daily hunting them down and bashing them (more likely to be the other way around)  .....

Abos are oppressed because they choose to live in remote areas of houso style ghettoes, often free, receive government sustenance payments, love to fight and even kill one another, have massive endemic internal problems that they will not address, and expect Whartey to close all gaps for them by letting them continue to do things 'their way'.....

Women are oppressed - received affirmative action for over forty years now, special scholarships, a school education system warped to better suit the style of girls, get first call on public housing etc, have massive forces at their call in case the old man disagrees with them or they slap the old man and scream violence, still get paid to take families away because they 'just don't feel like it any more', get front billing in the media for every light bulb one changes, and are perpetually pushed as 'better' and 'more affected' by illness etc and every other thing that happens in society.....  women even suffer more in wars, you know....
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Reply #47 - May 26th, 2022 at 1:34pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:23am:
Boris wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:19am:
If you want violent people - go to the NT


"10 Times higher: The likelihood an Aboriginal youth is a victim of proven abuse or neglect, compared to their white peer. [1]
4 Times higher: The probability of an Aboriginal child under 5 years to die as a result of assaults, compared to their white peer. [2]
1.8 Times higher: The likelihood that an Aboriginal baby is neglected or abused, compared to a non-Aboriginal baby. [3]
40% Percentage Indigenous children make up of all hospital admissions in the age group 0 to 4 who are admitted for assault. [3]
45 Times higher: The probability of an Aboriginal women living in rural and remote areas to experience domestic violence, compared to their white peers. [9]
35 Times higher: The likelihood that an Aboriginal women is hospitalised due to family violence, compared to a non-Aboriginal woman. [10] Other sources report a figure of 23 times. [11]
11 Times higher: The probability that an Aboriginal woman is killed as a result of violent assault. [12] Same figure for Western Australia: 17.5 times. [13]
2.6 Average number of women per day seeking treatment for domestic violence related injuries in Alice Springs (between 2000 and 2006). [14]
1,500 Number of people admitted to Alice Springs hospital between 1998 and 2005 with stab wounds. In 2007 Alice Springs was said to have the highest number of stabbings in the world. [4] Most stab wounds were in the thigh due to cultural practices.
$13.6b Estimated cost of all domestic violence against women and their children to the Australian economy in 2008-9. [5]


Read it and weep.  Just more 'made up figures' from the Abos themselves, eh?


This is a mishmash of figures, clearly DV against Aboriginal women in remote settlements does not cost us much money

Assuming all of this is correct, why do you think that is?



None so blind - a 'mish-mash of figures' - then ... try responding to them one at a time instead of cutting and running and wailing .....

They come From The Heart you know... Creative Spirits... an Abo-centric group.... Truthspeaking .... you know the gist....
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Reply #48 - May 26th, 2022 at 1:45pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 1:31pm:
You mean like tearing down statues, defacing them, rioting and burning in the streets, protesting peacefully by bashing any 'opposition', carrying on semi-concealed campaigns of pursuit of supremacy of their 'way' (Leftland Uber Alles), infiltrating the political sphere and using shame and lies to influence the nodding clown heads in politics to lean their way, infiltrating the media and bending them the same way with cries of victimhood (that mostly doesn't exist), and acting and arming themselves against the day when they can become an effective Fifth Column here and elsewhere?

Trannies are bashed daily, you know - such victims - never seen or heard of one 'bashed' myself.... all 170 of them in Australia....

Muslims are oppressed - gangs of white supremacists out there daily hunting them down and bashing them (more likely to be the other way around)  .....

Abos are oppressed because they choose to live in remote areas of houso style ghettoes, often free, receive government sustenance payments, love to fight and even kill one another, have massive endemic internal problems that they will not address, and expect Whartey to close all gaps for them by letting them continue to do things 'their way'.....

Women are oppressed - received affirmative action for over forty years now, special scholarships, a school education system warped to better suit the style of girls, get first call on public housing etc, have massive forces at their call in case the old man disagrees with them or they slap the old man and scream violence, still get paid to take families away because they 'just don't feel like it any more', get front billing in the media for every light bulb one changes, and are perpetually pushed as 'better' and 'more affected' by illness etc and every other thing that happens in society.....  women even suffer more in wars, you know....


Tell me you're a Nazi without saying you're a Nazi

This is all ignorant bullshit and you are human garbage.

There are hundreds of thousands of trans sexuals in Australia.  That's actually math.
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None so blind - a 'mish-mash of figures' - then ... try responding to them one at a time instead of cutting and running and wailing .....

They come From The Heart you know... Creative Spirits... an Abo-centric group.... Truthspeaking .... you know the gist....


I responded trying to discuss the issues and everyone ran away....
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 1:31pm:
You mean like tearing down statues, defacing them, rioting and burning in the streets, protesting peacefully by bashing any 'opposition', carrying on semi-concealed campaigns of pursuit of supremacy of their 'way' (Leftland Uber Alles), infiltrating the political sphere and using shame and lies to influence the nodding clown heads in politics to lean their way, infiltrating the media and bending them the same way with cries of victimhood (that mostly doesn't exist), and acting and arming themselves against the day when they can become an effective Fifth Column here and elsewhere?

Trannies are bashed daily, you know - such victims - never seen or heard of one 'bashed' myself.... all 170 of them in Australia....

Muslims are oppressed - gangs of white supremacists out there daily hunting them down and bashing them (more likely to be the other way around)  .....

Abos are oppressed because they choose to live in remote areas of houso style ghettoes, often free, receive government sustenance payments, love to fight and even kill one another, have massive endemic internal problems that they will not address, and expect Whartey to close all gaps for them by letting them continue to do things 'their way'.....

Women are oppressed - received affirmative action for over forty years now, special scholarships, a school education system warped to better suit the style of girls, get first call on public housing etc, have massive forces at their call in case the old man disagrees with them or they slap the old man and scream violence, still get paid to take families away because they 'just don't feel like it any more', get front billing in the media for every light bulb one changes, and are perpetually pushed as 'better' and 'more affected' by illness etc and every other thing that happens in society.....  women even suffer more in wars, you know....


Tell me you're a Nazi without saying you're a Nazi

This is all ignorant bullshit and you are human garbage.

There are hundreds of thousands of trans sexuals in Australia.  That's actually math.



All of which proves you are a SocioNazi...your every attempt at verbiage is violent.... name-calling, rubbishing, personal insult, then lies..... THAT'S actually the truth...

Hundreds of thousands you say?  Simple math?  What kind of 'math' is that?

Here is the news:-

https://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/2071.0~2016~Main%20...


"Valid and intentional sex/gender other than male or female      
1 260
     
5.4
     Multimarks with no text(b)      
2 390
     
10.2
     Other responses - clearly not an intended sex or gender diverse response(c)      
6 390
     
27.3
     Total      
10 040
     
42.9"



"Intersex/Indeterminate      
40
     
3.2
Trans male      
70
     
5.5
Trans female      
100
     
7.5
Transgender not elsewhere classified      
170
     
13.2
Non-binary      
220
     
17.3
Another gender      
230
     
18.1
Other not further defined(c)      
440
     
34.9
Persons      
1 260
     
100.0"

Hardly hundreds of thousands, is it?
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Reply #51 - May 26th, 2022 at 3:05pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 1:45pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 1:34pm:
None so blind - a 'mish-mash of figures' - then ... try responding to them one at a time instead of cutting and running and wailing .....

They come From The Heart you know... Creative Spirits... an Abo-centric group.... Truthspeaking .... you know the gist....


I responded trying to discuss the issues and everyone ran away....


Try again - some of us have things to do apart from giving you the attention you so desperately crave..... I'm here to help... you do believe I'm here to help, don't you?
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 1:31pm:
You mean like tearing down statues, defacing them, rioting and burning in the streets, protesting peacefully by bashing any 'opposition', carrying on semi-concealed campaigns of pursuit of supremacy of their 'way' (Leftland Uber Alles), infiltrating the political sphere and using shame and lies to influence the nodding clown heads in politics to lean their way, infiltrating the media and bending them the same way with cries of victimhood (that mostly doesn't exist), and acting and arming themselves against the day when they can become an effective Fifth Column here and elsewhere?

Trannies are bashed daily, you know - such victims - never seen or heard of one 'bashed' myself.... all 170 of them in Australia....

Muslims are oppressed - gangs of white supremacists out there daily hunting them down and bashing them (more likely to be the other way around)  .....

Abos are oppressed because they choose to live in remote areas of houso style ghettoes, often free, receive government sustenance payments, love to fight and even kill one another, have massive endemic internal problems that they will not address, and expect Whartey to close all gaps for them by letting them continue to do things 'their way'.....

Women are oppressed - received affirmative action for over forty years now, special scholarships, a school education system warped to better suit the style of girls, get first call on public housing etc, have massive forces at their call in case the old man disagrees with them or they slap the old man and scream violence, still get paid to take families away because they 'just don't feel like it any more', get front billing in the media for every light bulb one changes, and are perpetually pushed as 'better' and 'more affected' by illness etc and every other thing that happens in society.....  women even suffer more in wars, you know....


Tell me you're a Nazi without saying you're a Nazi

This is all ignorant bullshit and you are human garbage.

There are hundreds of thousands of trans sexuals in Australia.  That's actually math.


Not math .... outright bs.  Grin

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Reply #53 - May 26th, 2022 at 3:13pm
 
Gnads wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 3:06pm:
Not math .... outright bs.


Already posted the ABS figures from 2016 - wouldn't expect those to change that much... there it shows the 170 I quoted, plus a few other outliers - totaling 1260 or something nationwide...

That pall of smoke you see over there... that's where Left hit the ground after being shot down over and over.... didn't see any 'chute.... decided to re-name his next aircraft 'The Flying Sieve' .....

Hmm - the name of my German ancestors means 'sieve makers' - trades people of the time..... would've fitted in well in Schindler's factory...


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Reply #54 - May 26th, 2022 at 3:17pm
 
Trans male 70 - trans female 100  = 170.  Just math.... that was the ones going for the cut in 2016..... 170, FGS.... and all this furore...

The StraightBoys would be hard pressed to even find one to bash (in between roaming the streets at all hours looking for a Musso to behead or something) ..... if they are 'bashed in prison' how come 170 total end up with so many in prison?  Nutters?

Surely such sensitive souls wouldn't do anyone harm to end up in prison.................. it's not like it's for an unpaid parking fine ...... maybe a little axe chopping in Enmore or something....  going the rat on the drugs - well - blaming the drugs....
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Reply #55 - May 26th, 2022 at 3:26pm
 
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Gnads wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 3:06pm:
Not math .... outright bs.


Already posted the ABS figures from 2016 - wouldn't expect those to change that much... there it shows the 170 I quoted, plus a few other outliers - totaling 1260 or something nationwide...

That pall of smoke you see over there... that's where Left hit the ground after being shot down over and over.... didn't see any 'chute.... decided to re-name his next aircraft 'The Flying Sieve' .....

Hmm - the name of my German ancestors means 'sieve makers' - trades people of the time..... would've fitted in well in Schindler's factory...




This is literally bullshit.   Are you just mental? The ABS didn't ask if people were trans.  This number was a bad guess.

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Trans male 70 - trans female 100  = 170.  Just math.... that was the ones going for the cut in 2016..... 170, FGS.... and all this furore...

The StraightBoys would be hard pressed to even find one to bash (in between roaming the streets at all hours looking for a Musso to behead or something) ..... if they are 'bashed in prison' how come 170 total end up with so many in prison?  Nutters?

Surely such sensitive souls wouldn't do anyone harm to end up in prison.................. it's not like it's for an unpaid parking fine ...... maybe a little axe chopping in Enmore or something....  going the rat on the drugs - well - blaming the drugs....


This is still bullshit.  You are still ridiculous
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Not math .... outright bs.  Grin



Math is hard

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/transgender-population-by-state


This says .7%, this is most certainly an underestimate, a lot of trans folks still don't come out. Let's run with 1%.

25,000,000.  1% of that is 250,000.

Idiot.

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If you want violent people - go to the NT


"10 Times higher: The likelihood an Aboriginal youth is a victim of proven abuse or neglect, compared to their white peer. [1]
4 Times higher: The probability of an Aboriginal child under 5 years to die as a result of assaults, compared to their white peer. [2]
1.8 Times higher: The likelihood that an Aboriginal baby is neglected or abused, compared to a non-Aboriginal baby. [3]
40% Percentage Indigenous children make up of all hospital admissions in the age group 0 to 4 who are admitted for assault. [3]
45 Times higher: The probability of an Aboriginal women living in rural and remote areas to experience domestic violence, compared to their white peers. [9]
35 Times higher: The likelihood that an Aboriginal women is hospitalised due to family violence, compared to a non-Aboriginal woman. [10] Other sources report a figure of 23 times. [11]
11 Times higher: The probability that an Aboriginal woman is killed as a result of violent assault. [12] Same figure for Western Australia: 17.5 times. [13]
2.6 Average number of women per day seeking treatment for domestic violence related injuries in Alice Springs (between 2000 and 2006). [14]
1,500 Number of people admitted to Alice Springs hospital between 1998 and 2005 with stab wounds. In 2007 Alice Springs was said to have the highest number of stabbings in the world. [4] Most stab wounds were in the thigh due to cultural practices.
$13.6b Estimated cost of all domestic violence against women and their children to the Australian economy in 2008-9. [5]


Read it and weep.  Just more 'made up figures' from the Abos themselves, eh?
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Reply #59 - May 26th, 2022 at 3:31pm
 
Boris wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 3:29pm:
If you want violent people - go to the NT


"10 Times higher: The likelihood an Aboriginal youth is a victim of proven abuse or neglect, compared to their white peer. [1]
4 Times higher: The probability of an Aboriginal child under 5 years to die as a result of assaults, compared to their white peer. [2]
1.8 Times higher: The likelihood that an Aboriginal baby is neglected or abused, compared to a non-Aboriginal baby. [3]
40% Percentage Indigenous children make up of all hospital admissions in the age group 0 to 4 who are admitted for assault. [3]
45 Times higher: The probability of an Aboriginal women living in rural and remote areas to experience domestic violence, compared to their white peers. [9]
35 Times higher: The likelihood that an Aboriginal women is hospitalised due to family violence, compared to a non-Aboriginal woman. [10] Other sources report a figure of 23 times. [11]
11 Times higher: The probability that an Aboriginal woman is killed as a result of violent assault. [12] Same figure for Western Australia: 17.5 times. [13]
2.6 Average number of women per day seeking treatment for domestic violence related injuries in Alice Springs (between 2000 and 2006). [14]
1,500 Number of people admitted to Alice Springs hospital between 1998 and 2005 with stab wounds. In 2007 Alice Springs was said to have the highest number of stabbings in the world. [4] Most stab wounds were in the thigh due to cultural practices.
$13.6b Estimated cost of all domestic violence against women and their children to the Australian economy in 2008-9. [5]


Read it and weep.  Just more 'made up figures' from the Abos themselves, eh?



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Reply #60 - May 26th, 2022 at 3:34pm
 
I have seen it - cleaned up the blood and tended to the wounds

You pretend its not there or the fault of Cook or some crap
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I have seen it IRL
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FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 3:28pm:
Gnads wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 3:06pm:
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Not math .... outright bs.  Grin



Math is hard

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/transgender-population-by-state


This says .7%, this is most certainly an underestimate, a lot of trans folks still don't come out. Let's run with 1%.

25,000,000.  1% of that is 250,000.

Idiot.



Well - the 'math' is wildly wrong - accept that on hard figures and move on.  What you are dealing with are estimates, the ABS was dealing with self-reported responses and factors in unwillingness to say or simple confusion (dare I use that word?), which is why they have a category that is in there somewhere but not specific - not elsewhere classified.

Maybe you need to review the statistics before arguing again.... read and weep.
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Reply #63 - May 26th, 2022 at 3:39pm
 
Boris wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 3:34pm:
I have seen it - cleaned up the blood and tended to the wounds

You pretend its not there or the fault of Cook or some crap


I never said that, you simply refuse to either back or discuss your claims.  You are an empty vessel
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FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 3:31pm:
Boris wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 3:29pm:
If you want violent people - go to the NT


"10 Times higher: The likelihood an Aboriginal youth is a victim of proven abuse or neglect, compared to their white peer. [1]
4 Times higher: The probability of an Aboriginal child under 5 years to die as a result of assaults, compared to their white peer. [2]
1.8 Times higher: The likelihood that an Aboriginal baby is neglected or abused, compared to a non-Aboriginal baby. [3]
40% Percentage Indigenous children make up of all hospital admissions in the age group 0 to 4 who are admitted for assault. [3]
45 Times higher: The probability of an Aboriginal women living in rural and remote areas to experience domestic violence, compared to their white peers. [9]
35 Times higher: The likelihood that an Aboriginal women is hospitalised due to family violence, compared to a non-Aboriginal woman. [10] Other sources report a figure of 23 times. [11]
11 Times higher: The probability that an Aboriginal woman is killed as a result of violent assault. [12] Same figure for Western Australia: 17.5 times. [13]
2.6 Average number of women per day seeking treatment for domestic violence related injuries in Alice Springs (between 2000 and 2006). [14]
1,500 Number of people admitted to Alice Springs hospital between 1998 and 2005 with stab wounds. In 2007 Alice Springs was said to have the highest number of stabbings in the world. [4] Most stab wounds were in the thigh due to cultural practices.
$13.6b Estimated cost of all domestic violence against women and their children to the Australian economy in 2008-9. [5]


Read it and weep.  Just more 'made up figures' from the Abos themselves, eh?



Are you a bot? You keep posting this and refusing to discuss it?



Been discussed and linked - comes from Creative Spirits - an Indigenous orientated site, seeking to give Truthtelling to the issues out there in A-A land...
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Reply #65 - May 26th, 2022 at 3:40pm
 
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FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 3:28pm:
Gnads wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 3:06pm:
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Not math .... outright bs.  Grin



Math is hard

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/transgender-population-by-state


This says .7%, this is most certainly an underestimate, a lot of trans folks still don't come out. Let's run with 1%.

25,000,000.  1% of that is 250,000.

Idiot.



Well - the 'math' is wildly wrong - accept that on hard figures and move on.  What you are dealing with are estimates, the ABS was dealing with self-reported responses and factors in unwillingness to say or simple confusion (dare I use that word?), which is why they have a category that is in there somewhere but not specific - not elsewhere classified.

Maybe you need to review the statistics before arguing again.... read and weep.


I reiterate, the ABS did NOT ask people if they are trans.  You stupid cnut.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/the-feed/article/trans-people-say-they-feel-erased-by-this-years-census/atmeoryoo
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Reply #66 - May 26th, 2022 at 3:41pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 3:40pm:
Been discussed and linked - comes from Creative Spirits - an Indigenous orientated site, seeking to give Truthtelling to the issues out there in A-A land...


No one bothered to prove it to me.  And everyone ran when I tried to discuss it
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Reply #67 - May 26th, 2022 at 3:42pm
 
They are an extremely violent and lawless people

For some reason the Left loves that

the more rapes and murders the more the Left get a hard on for them
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Boris wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 3:42pm:
They are an extremely violent and lawless people

For some reason the Left loves that

the more rapes and murders the more the Left get a hard on for them


So this is the issue.  If disadvantage leads to crime, it does not prove your racism is true.  Which is why you are scared to discuss it
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They are most certainly NOT disadvantaged - they have a river of tax payers money and are pandered to in every way possible.

When will you see the reality.

they get free money free housing free medical and free everything

yet they act with violence
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Reply #70 - May 26th, 2022 at 4:22pm
 
Boris wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 3:48pm:
They are most certainly NOT disadvantaged - they have a river of tax payers money and are pandered to in every way possible.

When will you see the reality.

they get free money free housing free medical and free everything

yet they act with violence


...

When challenged, Matty all the Racists who make that claim run a thousand kilometres, rather than provide any proof of it actually happening.  Funny, that, hey?  WOFTAM.  Run along, back to you're mummy in whose basement you live.  Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #71 - May 26th, 2022 at 4:33pm
 
My Mum is long dead you pig for bringing her into this

You are lower than snake crap

I have been to the NT and seen the violence first hand

they have a river of tax payer money and are violent and dangerous people

have you ever seen a raped child?

I still cry about what I saw
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Reply #72 - May 26th, 2022 at 4:39pm
 
Boris wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 4:33pm:
My Mum is long dead you pig for bringing into this

You are lower than snake crap

I have been to the NT and seen the violence first hand

they have a river of tax payer money and are violent and dangerous people

have you ever seen a raped child?

I still cry about what I saw


I see a lot of masturbation.  I see you running from debate.  I see you posting racist bullshit.

Here's a thought. If what you say is true, you make those reports less credible by tying them to your racist bullshit
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Reply #73 - May 26th, 2022 at 4:43pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 4:39pm:
Boris wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 4:33pm:
My Mum is long dead you pig for bringing into this

You are lower than snake crap

I have been to the NT and seen the violence first hand

they have a river of tax payer money and are violent and dangerous people

have you ever seen a raped child?

I still cry about what I saw


I see a lot of masturbation.  I see you running from debate.  I see you posting racist bullshit.

Here's a thought. If what you say is true, you make those reports less credible by tying them to your racist bullshit


You have never in your life been to an aboriginal town, you have never interacted with aboriginies. Like most people.
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FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 4:39pm:
Boris wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 4:33pm:
My Mum is long dead you pig for bringing into this

You are lower than snake crap

I have been to the NT and seen the violence first hand

they have a river of tax payer money and are violent and dangerous people

have you ever seen a raped child?

I still cry about what I saw


I see a lot of masturbation.  I see you running from debate.  I see you posting racist bullshit.

Here's a thought. If what you say is true, you make those reports less credible by tying them to your racist bullshit


What Bullshit? I have posted the authentic statistics - the violent crime for an Indigenous women is 19 time that of a Non Indigenous women - that is 1,900% more violence inflicted - and it is not racist but reality.

I see you ignoring reality

Before a problem can be solved it must be recognised as a problem.
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Reply #75 - May 26th, 2022 at 4:48pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:55am:
Frank wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:54am:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 11:22am:
Native English speakers would understand I gave a clear answer



Uh-oh, the hoof of unconscious cultural chauvinism is showing there. "Othering" and deprecating the "other".    Now suddenly there "us the Natives" and then the others, the "outsiders".  Tsk, tsk  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Just pointing out you were probably born here and still illiterate...



no, sore ends a fly in ... he's not even a citizen.  Cheesy
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What Bullshit?

I see you ignoring reality


To reiterate, the constant racism and refusal to offer evidence is far from convincing
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FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 1:45pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 1:34pm:
None so blind - a 'mish-mash of figures' - then ... try responding to them one at a time instead of cutting and running and wailing .....

They come From The Heart you know... Creative Spirits... an Abo-centric group.... Truthspeaking .... you know the gist....


I responded trying to discuss the issues and everyone ran away....

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Reply #78 - May 26th, 2022 at 6:11pm
 
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Boris wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 4:45pm:
What Bullshit?

I see you ignoring reality


To reiterate, the constant racism and refusal to offer evidence is far from convincing


refusal to offer evidence?

wow - you are deluded
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FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 3:28pm:
Gnads wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 3:06pm:
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Not math .... outright bs.  Grin



Math is hard

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/transgender-population-by-state


This says .7%, this is most certainly an underestimate, a lot of trans folks still don't come out. Let's run with 1%.

25,000,000.  1% of that is 250,000.

Idiot.



Pure speculation you imbecile.

You run with fiction/fantasy.
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Reply #80 - May 26th, 2022 at 6:22pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 4:54pm:
Boris wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 4:45pm:
What Bullshit?

I see you ignoring reality


To reiterate, the constant racism and refusal to offer evidence is far from convincing


Evidence - eye witness testimony is evidence


Domestic and family violence
An Aboriginal woman is 45 times more likely to experience domestic violence than a white woman. Violence patterns are passed on from parents to their children.



Source: Domestic and family violence - Creative Spirits, retrieved from

https://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/people/domestic-and-family-vi...
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FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 3:31pm:
Boris wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 3:29pm:
If you want violent people - go to the NT


"10 Times higher: The likelihood an Aboriginal youth is a victim of proven abuse or neglect, compared to their white peer. [1]
4 Times higher: The probability of an Aboriginal child under 5 years to die as a result of assaults, compared to their white peer. [2]
1.8 Times higher: The likelihood that an Aboriginal baby is neglected or abused, compared to a non-Aboriginal baby. [3]
40% Percentage Indigenous children make up of all hospital admissions in the age group 0 to 4 who are admitted for assault. [3]
45 Times higher: The probability of an Aboriginal women living in rural and remote areas to experience domestic violence, compared to their white peers. [9]
35 Times higher: The likelihood that an Aboriginal women is hospitalised due to family violence, compared to a non-Aboriginal woman. [10] Other sources report a figure of 23 times. [11]
11 Times higher: The probability that an Aboriginal woman is killed as a result of violent assault. [12] Same figure for Western Australia: 17.5 times. [13]
2.6 Average number of women per day seeking treatment for domestic violence related injuries in Alice Springs (between 2000 and 2006). [14]
1,500 Number of people admitted to Alice Springs hospital between 1998 and 2005 with stab wounds. In 2007 Alice Springs was said to have the highest number of stabbings in the world. [4] Most stab wounds were in the thigh due to cultural practices.
$13.6b Estimated cost of all domestic violence against women and their children to the Australian economy in 2008-9. [5]


Read it and weep.  Just more 'made up figures' from the Abos themselves, eh?



Are you a bot? You keep posting this and refusing to discuss it?



Don't worry about him reposting ---- you keep posting the same shyte ad infinitum.

Do you think if you post the same drivel often enough it will prove to be fact?

I know who the idiot is ... and a dangerous idiot.

No wonder ol mate wanted to find you & debate you one on one.

You mouthy POS.
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Reply #82 - May 26th, 2022 at 6:26pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 3:41pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 3:40pm:
Been discussed and linked - comes from Creative Spirits - an Indigenous orientated site, seeking to give Truthtelling to the issues out there in A-A land...


No one bothered to prove it to me.  And everyone ran when I tried to discuss it



You don't discuss you try & railroad your opinion over the top of anyone who disagrees.

Pharq off Noddy. You're just another lefty extremist pain in the arse.
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Reply #83 - May 26th, 2022 at 6:28pm
 
Been told already the 'maths' doesn't stack up to the real figures....

You reckon there was no such question.... the government is lying to you about such a totally unimportant issue... 170 cut and tucks nationwide..... stick your world figures and estimates of 'non-reports' ....

"It was the first Australian Census to have a response option available on the online form for sex other than male or female, via a special online form with an 'Other' response option to the Sex question. "


https://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by%20Subject/2071.0~2016~Main%20...
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FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 4:39pm:
Boris wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 4:33pm:
My Mum is long dead you pig for bringing into this

You are lower than snake crap

I have been to the NT and seen the violence first hand

they have a river of tax payer money and are violent and dangerous people

have you ever seen a raped child?

I still cry about what I saw


I see a lot of masturbation.  I see you running from debate.  I see you posting racist bullshit.

Here's a thought. If what you say is true, you make those reports less credible by tying them to your racist bullshit



Next to Bwyan & Jasin you're the biggest wanker here.

How's it feel to be a 3rd rate wanker?

You better up your game if you want top ranking.

You're well on your way.
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You'll never get him to read the links..... he doesn't want to.....

This is for 3% of the population - the hospitals nd all the governments are lying, right?

https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/indigenous-australians/family-violence-indigenou...

"Indigenous females and males were 35 and 22 times as likely to be hospitalised due to family violence-related assaults as other Australian females and males, respectively.:

"Indigenous females and males were nearly ten and nine times more likely to die due to assault as non-Indigenous females and males, respectively".


https://aifs.gov.au/cfca/publications/child-abuse-and-family-violence-aboriginal...

"While there are few figures available from Western Australia, available data from the Northern Territory indicate that there are around 6000 incidents of assault on Indigenous women in the Northern Territory per year. That is, approximately one-third of the Northern Territory’s Indigenous female population is assaulted each year. Weapons are reported to be used in around 50-60% of Indigenous attacks between spouses (Memmott et al. 2001)."

"It has been suggested that incidents of sexual and physical abuse of Aboriginal children are often not being reported to authorities ‘…due to lack of assistance from police or fear of reprisals, or shame’ (Robertson 2000: 101). There are several other factors which lead to the under-reporting of child abuse in Aboriginal communities and this includes the fact that many communities are located in rural or remote areas of Australia where surveillance and contact with child health or welfare professionals are at a minimum. There has also been some concern that government agencies have been reluctant to intervene in Aboriginal communities for fear of reprisals from the community and media and therefore ‘relied upon cultural politics to justify inability to intervene’" ...

Won't even read this link myself the battle is already won:-

https://www.anrows.org.au/media-releases/indigenous-family-violence/

That enough for you?  It's all a right wing conspiracy, eh, and every single one of those doctors and nurses lies to support it, the cops lie to support it, the governments make it all up - Every Single One Of Them Regardless Of Their Political Colour....?
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Gnads wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 6:26pm:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 3:41pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 3:40pm:
Been discussed and linked - comes from Creative Spirits - an Indigenous orientated site, seeking to give Truthtelling to the issues out there in A-A land...


No one bothered to prove it to me.  And everyone ran when I tried to discuss it



You don't discuss you try & railroad your opinion over the top of anyone who disagrees.

Pharq off Noddy. You're just another lefty extremist pain in the arse.


Just put out a heap of links and posted salient points in them - let's see if he goes the old and worn-out 'everyone ran when I tried to discuss it'...

The boy must be a druggie or something.

Never ONCE has he responded... the only reason for that is he is nothing but a troll... but at least some of the lesser lights here can access some links and maybe learn a little bit outside their drug-besotted nightmare worlds....
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Re: Why do the right always reach for violence?
Reply #87 - May 26th, 2022 at 6:56pm
 
Look, Leftie .... BABY - we all understand by now that you have Trench Mentality due to having a 'trans' son (how old, BTW?), and have ongoing problems with Daddy.... but you could at least try to read the endless links sent out, and settle at least one issue on which you are clearly totally wrong.

Trench Mentality - when you have your head down in a trench your horizon is the lip of it.... just can't see anything else .... that's you to a T.
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