Each of us joined this board to discuss politics, meaning we care about politics enough to discuss it.  Were you always this way? If not, what changed?

For me, I got involved in helping refugees because I am reasonably wealthy and wanted to give back to society.  I had no clue it was a political act until people started to harass and threaten me.  Then Reclaim Australia happened, which I immediately recognised as Nazism and I started to speak out against it.  Out of that, a gang of people started creating fake Facebook pages of me, claiming to speak for me and saying I loved terrorism, etc.  They stalked my kids online, created pages attacking them and  called my house threatening to kill them.  To this day there are people who try to find me all over the internet, attack me, and try to get me to retaliate so they can take screenshots and claim I stalk and harass them.  I've had cops at my door because they did this and misrepresented what I said (I said I think someone will try to kill Kyle Rittenhouse, in a right wing group where people were saying Kyle proves it's OK to execute people for being left wing).

I got regular death threats for years.  If you google me there's a ton of videos lying about me and giving my address, in the hope someone sees them and tries to harm me.  I was also submitted to a ton of pages claiming I am a child abuser and rapist.  These things would affect my life if I was not married a long time, and an in demand professional.  They tried to basically destroy my life because I am kind to people who are not white.  At one stage someone who was threatening me sent me a photo of himself outside my front gate.  I was at work, and my kids were home.  It was scary.

So, I learned that to have morals, to be literate and kind, is to be left wing.  Some right wing people are not extremists, but none reject the extremists in their midst.  They are trying to tear down and destroy society, so I am left wing.

Steampipe wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 9:35am:


I am better than right wing garbage.  I wish it was not true.  I wish people were not filth

Steampipe wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 9:49am:


Basic humanity is nothing to be proud of. It's just a shame so many can't achieve it

Steampipe wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 9:53am:


Imagine thinking it's weird to assess people based on the values they claim to have....

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Gnads wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 10:07am:


Garbage why?

Gnads wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 10:27am:


Because they have  contrary opinion to me on the question of kids being allowed to life in peace and safety.  Trans kids.  Brown kids.  Refugee kids.

Gnads wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 10:38am:


So killing children is a valid opinion? The Nazis were fine?

Frank wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 10:44am:



Do I get valuable prizes?

Frank wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 11:42am:


I'm interested that no one has answered me.  I assume most right wing voters are scared of race mixing and white genocide

Frank wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 11:47am:


Lots of right wing people think so.  Fraser Anning sure did and he got supporters

greggerypeccary wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 11:50am:


Ask Heather Heyer, or Kyle's victims.  What's more concerning is that most of the right will defend such people as a 'difference of opinion'

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 11:50am:

What do YOU think? You introduced it and said it as something that is actually happening.

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 11:51am:


White supremacy is a huge threat in both the US and this country.

And yes, it's disgusting how people (including members of this forum) will defend the violence.

"When it comes to extremism, the focus within US law enforcement and intelligence agencies has shifted to white supremacist and far-right groups. Those concerns were amplified by events like the deadly neo-Nazi rally in Charlottesville, Virginia in 2017, as well as the January 6 insurrection at the US Capitol."

"White Supremacists Top Domestic Terror Threat, Officials Say"

"White Supremacists Pose Biggest Threat of Domestic Terrorism"

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 12:14pm:


Sadly, your viewpoint has been skewed too far, so that you assume anyone and everyone is your enemy, and is of some extreme right faction.

You know nothing - I've studied refugee issues and perpetually state that refugees are a different category from mass immigration of incompatible groups, etc, etc, and that there are good reasons economically to oppose mass immigration.

Yet you sit and claim I'm some form of Fascist because I don't tolerate bullshit from Antifa or blacktivists or ratbag feminists with their totally self-centred ideas that they should control the nation... and because I criticise fairly ON FACT certain groups for their continued behaviour.

Again - you have yet to offer any solutions or even valid arguments, because your entire approach is clouded in personal vitriol.  Trouble with that is you wouldn't know your real friends from your enemies, since you now, due to your claimed experiences, see everyone as your enemy and yourself as a fearless crusader against wrong (as you see it).

Sad to see a grown man lapse into that juvenile approach to life... blame the stresses if you like - but again - you can get help there.... straighten your thinking out.

Footnote:- In some ways you remind me of my ex sister-in-law who, after years of stupidly living with my mad brother, now sees herself from the perspective of her own vitriol learned from him as some fearless crusader for women's 'rights' - even though what she is really is a sufferer from Stockholm Syndrome and now behaves the same way as her oppressor... to the T.  My bro was, in turn, a sufferer from Stockholm generated by his upbringing, and learned behaviour became the same as his oppressor's (parents), and he then acted out to the T their behaviour.

Capisce?  You don't have to abide by the training given to you by nasty people.... you are captain of your own soul.

It seems you have been trained the same way by your 'oppressors' - now man up and wake up and get out of that narrow and openly hostile mindset towards everyone, and open your ears and mind to other views, especially when those are supported by facts.

You're welcome.....
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Define 'mass immigration', why it's bad and where it's happening?

I offer solutions when people discuss things, not when they cry and run.

There's a lot of other bullshit here, but let's start there....  It's hard not to hate people who have stalked me for years and threatened to kill my kids, what do you recommend I do?

Look at the major cities - what do you call around 200,000 a year?  In a population of around 26M, that's 1.3% a year.... look at the demand for housing, shopping, transport and so forth that has escalated for decades now.... look at the supply of all of those things.

Are you settled in the parasite housing market, considering you're 'wealthy' - well - of course you don't want to cut yourself out now, do you?

So you're happy to see an extra 5%-8%-10% population increase from immigration every five years, primarily in the major cities which are running out of everything, while demand for housing and even land etc goes through the roof and destroys the economy for the majority, and supply is running out at the same time as the existing infrastructure is about to drown in its own flood of sh1t?  Then there are the social issues - establishment of ghettoes, high crime incidence in some groups, 'tribal' wars between groups, unwillingness to remotely assimilate, open hostility by some groups to the general run of Australians (I went to school with Poles, Ukraines, Germans, Dutch, Russians, Italians, Greeks, Rumanians, Czechs, Irish, Scottish,English and so forth.... even some Indigenous ...every one of those is an AUSTRALIAN, got that - I was mates with a lot of them and we had no 'tribal wars' such as exist in Granville etc, and between the Vietnamese and Lebs over the drug trade, going on since the 1970's - got it yet?)

So when you see groups hating predominantly on White Christian Australians, they are hating on all of those, and are clearly the problem when it comes to racism.

White Supremacy is NOT a major problem in Australia - it is a minor reaction to other group supremacy, and is limited to a small group.  Simply discussing the issues surrounding mass immigration is NOT supremacist... it is economic and social sense.

Again, for the slow horses, I was 'head-hunted' by our top security service on the basis of my views, back then, on 'right wing influences' in this nation.... though we disagreed on the actual foundation of 'right wing influences' ...... I could and still can see such things developing in politics of al kinds, including the 'left' which has the same mistaken idea that they have control over the individual here and the right to impose the will of their chosen ones at whim .....EXTREME right wing activities here, again, are in the minority, and are NOT generally accepted.

Fascist style control remains very much on the cards.... not least from the left.

But you'll need time to get that sorted out when you impartially view the actual behaviours and outcomes... difference of a cigarette paper between extreme left and right - and both claim to be looking for the best for all (LMAO).

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 11:43am:


Race mixing has been going on since Neanderthal times.

It may amaze a dick like you that many other races are anti-race mixing.

You're just another rabid lefty that is anti-white.

Are you a racist?

'cry and run'- you ARE delusional.  I've asked you direct question time and again and never an answer.

That's called 'trolling', son... it is YOU who cry and run....

What are your solutions to the endemic problems of Aboriginal communities?  We'll try again... how would YOU fix them?    You reckon it's disadvantage - which is first the disadvantage or the behaviour?  Which the horse, which the cart?  Who chooses to live in disadvantaged regions and lead a disadvantaged lifestyle?

Ain't no Wharte Man With No Eyes standing there forcing them to do the things they do....

We'll move on once we can get you settled here...

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 12:38pm:


can you give us the reasons why you were a refugee?.

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 12:16pm:


Quote:


Stop annoying people to the point you do.

Ever think that any threat made against you or your family(which I do not condone) may solely be because of your actions?

Take responsibility for that & try a different approach.

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 12:34pm:


Where do you get this bs?

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 12:45pm:


Stop fishing .... that's all you're trying to do.

You tell me why there is any need for "mass migration" and why should any sovereign nation have an open border policy?

How will adequate infrastructure be in place and who is going to foot the bill?

We already have a public housing crisis and a homeless crisis caused by both the right and the left.

Are we going to build ghettos for the resulting racial enclaves that will ensue?

Gnads wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 12:53pm:


I want you to define your terms, that's all.

There is no need for mass migration, and there is no mass migration as I see it. But you won't define what you mean by the term, so.....

The right have caused those crises, real left wing government would fix them.  We have tons of land to build houses on.

I have never seen WeChat.  I just read the news and stay informed.  Try it.

Steampipe wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 1:01pm:


What do you think a refugee is?

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 12:57pm:


You're the one that mentioned it.

Here's a link about mass migration. Get informed.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34131911

Gnads wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 1:07pm:


Your cowardice fascinates me.....

Gnads wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 1:11pm:


So all bullshit? Every new person uses services and creates jobs

Gnads wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 1:12pm:


You have utterly failed to answer me in any way

Gnads wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 1:18pm:


You're new to capitalism then?

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 1:20pm:


Everyones a capitalist .... even you.

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 1:23pm:


That's my right as a member here.

You don't like any answers unless they fit your narrative.

Outside of that you're fishing.

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 1:07pm:


Okay, everyone here, lets be nice. 

60 thousand is what the right wing believe is an adequate level.   Its a smallish number, and I think there is a reason behind it.   

The death rate in Australia is about 6.6 per 1000 per year.  This translates to about 161000 death per year.  Birth number is about 311 000 per year.   This based on population of 23 million.   This is a net gain of about 150 000 people natively per year.   60 thousand immigration will contribute to this net gain, making an annual growth of 1% - for the right wing, its an acceptable number due to constraints with infrastucture and service. 

However, I did argue, that due to our ageing population.  In order to achieve real economic growth of 2 to 3 per cent, without inflation, we probably need figures of 500 to 600 thousands net gain.  But this would be political suicide for any party.   So I have arrived at a middle figure of 100 to 120 thousand per year post COVID as a way going forward.

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 1:31pm:


The problem is that even as we are sparsely populated country, most of our country is hostile to human living.   In many places we just simply dont have the infrastructure and water.   To do otherwise, would cause immense damage to the environment.  To go forward, this need to be more measured and carefully planned.  The last thing we want is another suburb somewhere without services and are in traffic gridlock the whole day.

Gough Whitlam made me political.

He was such a disaster for this country I vowed I would not sit idly by and do nothing and let such a buffoon into power ever again.

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 1:28pm:



On what? For what? Phark off.

Brian Ross wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 3:05pm:


I'm interested in people who followed their parents.  My parents were not overtly political but very right wing in their bigotry

Frank wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 3:55pm:



no one loves you, do they?

Not really surprising that rather than try and engage leftie on this topic, most of the righties that replied came out and attacked him for it.

It's about what I'd expect on this forum

Steampipe wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 4:40pm:



so you object to the truth?

Steampipe wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 4:40pm:



sometimes you just need to hear it.

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 4:43pm:


Some people do run away from questions, like how someone ran away from answering if they hate people that hate gays.

John Smith wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 4:42pm:


What truth was that, smith?  the one where he used worldwide estimate figures to arrive at 'hundreds of thousands of trannies and gender-benders' in Australia whereas the hard data collected via census and self-reporting with no comebacks tells a totally different story - or something else?  Like all the figures provided by Indigenous sources about violence etc in their communities is all just made up figures by the 'right'?

I suppose he thought that having to use pencils at the election meant that someone was rubbing out the numbers and replacing them with others...... still... Labor won so all those who said it at my polling station were wrong, eh?  Where TF would anyone get time to do that with millions of vote papers?

Jeez - you are convincing me he is totally paranoid, Smith.... do try to help out ...

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 4:49pm:


I quoted it crappler

you claim to be a writer and yet you struggle with basics .. did you use a ghost writer to spell all the words for you?

John Smith wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 4:55pm:


I've been busy - just answer the questions, Smith - I can't be bothered going back to read anything you post, given the way you do it, same as LTYC, mothra and now Leftie - if you want to make a point, make it fairly - state your case or shut up.

Frank wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 4:04pm:


Species mixing?  Sh1t - you mean any foreign heritage woman I've f**ked is a different species?

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 7:08am:


Sorry for your experiences.
Thanks for helping society

If those are rightys, I'm not one of those.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 5:12pm:


and I can't be bothered repeating myself. If you want to know what I quoted go back otherwise stop your crying.

John Smith did.....

Frank wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 4:04pm:


Got the plonker.

Frank wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 5:36pm:


Spot on .... sums this wanker up to a tee.

Finally got that book "The Madness of Crowds" ... should be good....

Gnads wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 6:36pm:


as is your right

Gnads wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 6:36pm:


you ignored the whole gist of the thread and went straight into attack. Sure, futuretheleftwanted went a little over the top, but given his history and that his kids were deliberately targeted for his political views, I'm willing to overlook that. I doubt you'd act differently if your kids were targeted.

How about you just ignore the crap and deal with the purpose of the thread which was 'what made you political'?

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 7:08am:

And, a 'public figure' like you chose to be anonymous on an obscure forum like this?

With the fake voice of a teenager. Please, don't post here. Aim for higher by quitting curb crawling.

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