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Reply #45 - May 25^th, 2022 at 3:52pm

On the other hand, I have no objection to companies paying residents for use of land and to have them guarantee restoration after they finish up their activities.

Why it is in any way a Native Title Claim evades me - if they live there they are entitled to be paid.

Everybody equal, no? Some more equal than others...... special rights....

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Re: Fortescue Metals face native title claim
Reply #46 - May 25^th, 2022 at 3:53pm

UnSubRocky wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 3:44pm:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 3:33pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 3:31pm:

Well, the indigenous did have societies. Hunter-gatherer societies moved about their regions, whenever the food sources got low.

They also had communities with housing and farms

According to the sources that are attributed to settlers exploring the region, this is true.

What other written reports are there to draw references from?

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Re: Fortescue Metals face native title claim
Reply #47 - May 25^th, 2022 at 3:55pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 3:53pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 3:44pm:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 3:33pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 3:31pm:

Well, the indigenous did have societies. Hunter-gatherer societies moved about their regions, whenever the food sources got low.

They also had communities with housing and farms

According to the sources that are attributed to settlers exploring the region, this is true.

What other written reports are there to draw references from?

None?

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Re: Fortescue Metals face native title claim
Reply #48 - May 25^th, 2022 at 3:56pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 2:54pm:

Boris wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 2:51pm:

Look at the statistics - for the Aborigines it is out of all control.

You really are a fool.

Go to Tennant Creek and work in the hospital

"look at the statistics" shows no statistics.

Look, if there's an issue it relates to disadvantage and poverty, not 'aboriginal culture'

So any modern day 'disadvantage and poverty' - and the former state of 'disadvantage and poverty' pre-Settlement - are two different things, and thus the culture does not have any application?

Tell 'im e's dreamin'................

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Re: Fortescue Metals face native title claim
Reply #49 - May 25^th, 2022 at 4:04pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 3:56pm:

So any modern day 'disadvantage and poverty' - and the former state of 'disadvantage and poverty' pre-Settlement - are two different things, and thus the culture does not have any application?

Tell 'im e's dreamin'................

The former state was not disadvantage, or poverty. You're used to Aboriginals living in the harshest environnments in this country because that's the only place we let them live according to some semblance of their traditions. They used to fish the Yarra, and walk Sydney Harbour.

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Boris Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3912 Gender:	Re: Fortescue Metals face native title claim Reply #50 - May 25^th, 2022 at 4:05pm Dangerous deluded fools Go the the NT They have everything they want - no poverty - endless taxpayers money river All they want is grog, sex and violence - and women, babies, boys - all have holes
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Re: Fortescue Metals face native title claim
Reply #51 - May 25^th, 2022 at 4:09pm

Boris wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 4:05pm:

Dangerous deluded fools

Go the the NT

They have everything they want - no poverty - endless taxpayers money river

All they want is grog, sex and violence - and women, babies, boys - all have holes

Yes, you are a racist cnut. I feel like we established this days ago.

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Re: Fortescue Metals face native title claim
Reply #53 - May 25^th, 2022 at 4:14pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 3:53pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 3:44pm:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 3:33pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 3:31pm:

Well, the indigenous did have societies. Hunter-gatherer societies moved about their regions, whenever the food sources got low.

They also had communities with housing and farms

According to the sources that are attributed to settlers exploring the region, this is true.

What other written reports are there to draw references from?

I will look specifically at the information in a book on pre-colonial indigenous society that I have just started reading. I will tell you what I have found.

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FutureTheLeftWant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6625 Gender:	Re: Fortescue Metals face native title claim Reply #54 - May 25^th, 2022 at 4:16pm Gordon wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 4:13pm: Did Abos use metal? Who gives a bugger?
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Re: Fortescue Metals face native title claim
Reply #55 - May 25^th, 2022 at 4:18pm

UnSubRocky wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 4:14pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 3:53pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 3:44pm:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 3:33pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 3:31pm:

Well, the indigenous did have societies. Hunter-gatherer societies moved about their regions, whenever the food sources got low.

They also had communities with housing and farms

According to the sources that are attributed to settlers exploring the region, this is true.

I will look specifically at the information in a book on pre-colonial indigenous society that I have just started reading. I will tell you what I have found.

What other written reports are there to draw references from?

Oral reports - have some value................

... and the modern 'disadvantage and poverty' are no more nor less than that suffered by countless others here and now.... most of whom don't kill their women at a rate 16 time higher than ALL other groups combined, or bash them to hospital at a rate 45 times higher then ALL other groups combined, or beat, starve and sexually abuse their children at a rate far higher than all other groups combined.

Without addressing the real and underlying issues - and given those figures culture must have a significant effect - nothing will ever change for this demographic. They are no more poor and disadvantaged than many other groups and individuals in this current economy and society - and the mad left want to make that worse for many to suit their own special interest groups, and then somehow expect to have a better society come of it all.

Madness - pure madness.

https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/indigenous-australians/indigenous-child-safety/s...

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Re: Fortescue Metals face native title claim
Reply #56 - May 25^th, 2022 at 4:22pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 4:18pm:

Oral reports - have some value................

... and the modern 'disadvantage and poverty' are no more nor less than that suffered by countless others here and now.... most of whom don;t kill their women at a rate 16 time higher than ALL other groups combined, or bash them to hospital at a rate 45 times higher then ALL other groups combined.

Without addressing the real and underlying issues - and given those figures culture must have a significant effect - nothing will ever change for this demographic. They are no more poor and disadvantaged than many other groups and individuals in this current economy and society - and the mad left want to make that worse to suit their own special interest groups.

More made up numbers. Cool. They are in fact poorer and worse off than anyone else. We want to fix it.

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Re: Fortescue Metals face native title claim
Reply #57 - May 25^th, 2022 at 5:14pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 2:32pm:

Boris wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 2:31pm:

Fool

Statistics show in that section of the Population it is out of all control and at horrendous levels - you have no idea of reality.

Women, children and even babies are raped and murdered all the time - it is endemic to and natural to Aboriginal people and culture.

You are a racist POS, which is why you have to lie like this.

By denying it's happening in such high numbers in abo communities you're ensuring it will never end.

Why do you hate abos so much?

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Re: Fortescue Metals face native title claim
Reply #58 - May 25^th, 2022 at 5:36pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 4:22pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 4:18pm:

Oral reports - have some value................

... and the modern 'disadvantage and poverty' are no more nor less than that suffered by countless others here and now.... most of whom don;t kill their women at a rate 16 time higher than ALL other groups combined, or bash them to hospital at a rate 45 times higher then ALL other groups combined.

Without addressing the real and underlying issues - and given those figures culture must have a significant effect - nothing will ever change for this demographic. They are no more poor and disadvantaged than many other groups and individuals in this current economy and society - and the mad left want to make that worse to suit their own special interest groups.

More made up numbers. Cool. They are in fact poorer and worse off than anyone else. We want to fix it.

Where are yours? Your bald statements are meaningless, as are you.

https://www.aic.gov.au/publications/rip/rip37

As for being poorer than anyone else - they are no poorer than countless others who live on dole only etc, and in fact, given that they tend to live in family home groups, they should be able to share better.

I, for one, was on my own from age 15, and paying board out of my $2 a week pay... you can't tell me that people who choose to live in remote areas in family groups are worse off.

Here ya go from the Black Horse's mouth, smart-arse.

https://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/people/domestic-and-family-vi...

Now respond to this with something of substance or piss off this forum.

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Re: Fortescue Metals face native title claim
Reply #59 - May 25^th, 2022 at 5:37pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 3:44pm:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 3:33pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 3:31pm:

Well, the indigenous did have societies. Hunter-gatherer societies moved about their regions, whenever the food sources got low.

They also had communities with housing and farms

Small and generally transient communities, only where food was plentiful, and small plots maybe sometimes. Not to be confused with housing and farms.

They had assemblages of huts.....

and why is that crappler? Lets see if that IQ of yours is a high as you keep pretending it is

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