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Re: The fallacy of the Greens
Reply #15 - May 22nd, 2022 at 11:22am
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 11:14am:
Bobby. wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 11:11am:
So - FutureTheLeftWant -

how does it feel that the party you support has policies based on a fallacy?


My God the right cry a lot.

What policies do you mean?



Now you're playing silly buggers -
read the first 2 posts.

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Reply #16 - May 22nd, 2022 at 11:25am
 
Bobby. wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 11:22am:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 11:14am:
Bobby. wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 11:11am:
So - FutureTheLeftWant -

how does it feel that the party you support has policies based on a fallacy?


My God the right cry a lot.

What policies do you mean?



Now you're playing silly buggers -
read the first 2 posts.



Greens want to limit use of coal.  What are you talking about?

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Reply #17 - May 22nd, 2022 at 12:15pm
 
The Greens in Germany voted to clear a large part of  Reinhardswald "Grimms Fairytale Forest" for a massive wind farm. It has met large resistance.

And in reality back to coal. Because they can't get enough gas and their renewables aren't capable.
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Reply #18 - May 22nd, 2022 at 12:22pm
 
lee wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 12:15pm:
The Greens in Germany voted to clear a large part of  Reinhardswald "Grimms Fairytale Forest" for a massive wind farm. It has met large resistance.


The EU (especially Germany)  of course should be engineering the Sahara to supply renewables to the EU.

Including off-shore wind and batteries,   France has sufficient nuclear power to back the EU grid at night.
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Re: The fallacy of the Greens
Reply #19 - May 22nd, 2022 at 12:24pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 12:22pm:
The EU (especially Germany)  of course should be engineering the Sahara to supply renewables to the EU.



Yet another numpty who believes every problem has an engineering solution. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

thegreatdivide wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 12:22pm:
  France has sufficient nuclear power to back the EU grid at night.



France is going to build more nuclear. Wink
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Reply #20 - May 22nd, 2022 at 12:30pm
 
John Smith wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 11:16am:
Bobby. wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 9:33am:
Whatever we do on carbon emissions it's only a drop
in the ocean compared to the rest of the world.



it's that sort of stupidity that saw the libs annihilated last night.


So tell us how much we have to increase CO2 emissions to reach "Net Zero"?

We are a carbon sink. Even The Conversation agrees -

"So while our ecosystems have remained a net sink over the last 20 years, it’s worth asking:"

https://theconversation.com/in-20-years-of-studying-how-ecosystems-absorb-carbon...

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Reply #21 - May 22nd, 2022 at 3:18pm
 
https://greens.org.au/platform/climate


The Greens plan includes:

    Immediately ban the construction of new coal, oil and gas infrastructure, ensuring we can transition our economy to zero carbon energy while maintaining a safe climate

    Help out mining workers and communities by creating long term, sustainable industries to assist in the move beyond fossil fuels and to ensure people do not lose work

    Phase out the mining, burning and export of thermal coal by 2030 to ensure we do our bit, so the world does not go over the 1.5 degree climate cliff
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Reply #22 - May 22nd, 2022 at 3:20pm
 
Quote:
so the world does not go over the 1.5 degree climate cliff


Fact check - it's a fallacy -

Even if we shut down everything in Australia it would make
no measurable difference to that 1.5 degree temperature.
The damage is not being done here in Australia.
It's countries like China and India that need to do something.

China, India, Indonesia, Japan and Vietnam
plan to build more than 600 coal power units.

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Reply #23 - May 22nd, 2022 at 3:23pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 3:20pm:
Quote:
so the world does not go over the 1.5 degree climate cliff


Fact check - it's a fallacy -

Even if we shut down everything in Australia it would make
no measurable difference to that 1.5 degree temperature.
The damage is not being done here in Australia.
It's countries like China and India that need to do something.


Have you packed a suitcase, Bobby?

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Re: The fallacy of the Greens
Reply #24 - May 22nd, 2022 at 3:25pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 3:23pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 3:20pm:
Quote:
so the world does not go over the 1.5 degree climate cliff


Fact check - it's a fallacy -

Even if we shut down everything in Australia it would make
no measurable difference to that 1.5 degree temperature.
The damage is not being done here in Australia.
It's countries like China and India that need to do something.


Have you packed a suitcase, Bobby?




What for?
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Reply #25 - May 22nd, 2022 at 3:26pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 3:25pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 3:23pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 3:20pm:
Quote:
so the world does not go over the 1.5 degree climate cliff


Fact check - it's a fallacy -

Even if we shut down everything in Australia it would make
no measurable difference to that 1.5 degree temperature.
The damage is not being done here in Australia.
It's countries like China and India that need to do something.


Have you packed a suitcase, Bobby?




What for?


To leave the country.

Anthony Albanese is your Prime Minister   Smiley
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Re: The fallacy of the Greens
Reply #26 - May 22nd, 2022 at 3:31pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 3:26pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 3:25pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 3:23pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 3:20pm:
Quote:
so the world does not go over the 1.5 degree climate cliff


Fact check - it's a fallacy -

Even if we shut down everything in Australia it would make
no measurable difference to that 1.5 degree temperature.
The damage is not being done here in Australia.
It's countries like China and India that need to do something.


Have you packed a suitcase, Bobby?




What for?


To leave the country.

Anthony Albanese is your Prime Minister   Smiley



I need to stay here to hold Albo and his Greens buddies to account
for their climate policies based on a fallacy.
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Reply #27 - May 22nd, 2022 at 3:34pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 3:31pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 3:26pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 3:25pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 3:23pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 3:20pm:
Quote:
so the world does not go over the 1.5 degree climate cliff


Fact check - it's a fallacy -

Even if we shut down everything in Australia it would make
no measurable difference to that 1.5 degree temperature.
The damage is not being done here in Australia.
It's countries like China and India that need to do something.


Have you packed a suitcase, Bobby?




What for?


To leave the country.

Anthony Albanese is your Prime Minister   Smiley



I need to stay here to hold Albo and his Greens buddies to account
for their climate policies based on a fallacy.


Be sure to let me know how that works out for you, okay?

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Re: The fallacy of the Greens
Reply #28 - May 22nd, 2022 at 3:41pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 3:34pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 3:31pm:
I need to stay here to hold Albo and his Greens buddies to account
for their climate policies based on a fallacy.


Be sure to let me know how that works out for you, okay?




What they've done is feed people feel good nonsense
which won't make a scrap of difference in the world.
It won't stop:
the fires,
the mass coral bleaching,
the floods or
the sea level rise or
stop increasing global temperatures.

The only possible answer is what has been discussed on this forum
and that is a new age of Thorium nuclear power.
https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1519823686/150

Unfortunately they can't seem to iron out the technical problems fast enough.

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Re: The fallacy of the Greens
Reply #29 - May 22nd, 2022 at 3:46pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 3:41pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 3:34pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 3:31pm:
I need to stay here to hold Albo and his Greens buddies to account
for their climate policies based on a fallacy.


Be sure to let me know how that works out for you, okay?




What they've done is feed people feel good nonsense
which won't make a scrap of difference in the world.
It won't stop:
the fires


Well, no.

The only way to stop the fires is to knock out the Jewish space lasers.

Have they released any policies dealing with that?

Maybe they should consult with Perjury Traitor Greene.

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