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May 21st, 2022 at 3:02pm
 
Post em up!

lathes, mills, drills, anything that turns steel into swarf
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Reply #1 - May 21st, 2022 at 3:59pm
 
aaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwww, I haven't got any of that !!!
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Reply #2 - May 21st, 2022 at 4:19pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 3:59pm:
aaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwww, I haven't got any of that !!!


What about wood working stuff? I'm not a wood workers arsehole!

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Reply #3 - May 21st, 2022 at 4:48pm
 
I have just the homehandy mans tools for woodworking.
Nice ones though Smiley

I've always found metal working to be hard.
More precision required and less forgiving.
Metal's really good in that it is straight, does not split or warp as it ages, VERY tough and durable.

We have high grades of aluminium in the rotors at work. Very specialised stuff.
The differing grade of stainless is surprising.
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Reply #4 - May 21st, 2022 at 5:00pm
 
Hah - one good 'metal working' things I learnt over the past few years was how to put new bearings on properly.
In brief, put the shaft in a -20 freezer or better for a few hours. Put the bearing in a 60 degree oven for a few hours.
They will slide together with hand pressure.

Am 60 years old, so it was good to learn this.

Some of our stuff is mechanically complex. To get it together really nicely is greatly satisfying.
Some of our things I have to do in stages.
There are multiple housings and bearings.
Heat some on stage 1, assemble that part with only hand pressure.
Cool that full assembly for stage 2, assemble it with the heated next stage with hand pressure.

For a $20K apparatus, it is good to be careful.
I can spend another hour.
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Reply #5 - May 21st, 2022 at 5:50pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 5:00pm:
Hah - one good 'metal working' things I learnt over the past few years was how to put new bearings on properly.
In brief, put the shaft in a -20 freezer or better for a few hours. Put the bearing in a 60 degree oven for a few hours.
They will slide together with hand pressure.

Am 60 years old, so it was good to learn this.

Some of our stuff is mechanically complex. To get it together really nicely is greatly satisfying.
Some of our things I have to do in stages.
There are multiple housings and bearings.
Heat some on stage 1, assemble that part with only hand pressure.
Cool that full assembly for stage 2, assemble it with the heated next stage with hand pressure.

For a $20K apparatus, it is good to be careful.
I can spend another hour.


Same thing with sleeves in a dry-sleeve engine, put the sleeve into dry ice before you fit and then it only needs a light tap home with a hammer to seat.
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Reply #6 - May 21st, 2022 at 5:52pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 4:48pm:
I have just the homehandy mans tools for woodworking.
Nice ones though Smiley

I've always found metal working to be hard.
More precision required and less forgiving.
Metal's really good in that it is straight, does not split or warp as it ages, VERY tough and durable.

We have high grades of aluminium in the rotors at work. Very specialised stuff.
The differing grade of stainless is surprising.


we use 316L for our process pipework and 304 for framing and non contact pipes like airlines and conduits, I find it far easier to weld than crappy old mild steel due to the quality and cleanliness when tig welding.
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Reply #7 - May 21st, 2022 at 7:42pm
 
I've never welded.
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Reply #8 - May 21st, 2022 at 7:47pm
 
I was just saying to my colleague the other day how things would be more difficult not to be able to go out to the Shed and weld something up.

It's a valuable skill even if you just had a cheap stick welder for non structural repairs.

I've been teaching a neighbour of mine a few farms up how to weld, from no idea at all to doing reasonable quality welds in the flat position didn't take long and it's allowed him to make his own gates and do a few repairs here and there.
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Reply #9 - May 21st, 2022 at 8:53pm
 
I've got a floor mounted drilling machine almost identical to the one the Wright Bros had in their workshop, same era, now an antique

Also a very old lathe, same era

They were pretty cheap to buy about 1990. They earned me many thousands of dollars



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Reply #10 - May 21st, 2022 at 9:20pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 8:53pm:
I've got a floor mounted drilling machine almost identical to the one the Wright Bros had in their workshop, same era, now an antique

Also a very old lathe, same era

They were pretty cheap to buy about 1990. They earned me many thousands of dollars





What make of lathe?

I have a couple of ward turret lathe and 2 Wilson center lathes all circa1950s

Lovely to use and well made.

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Reply #11 - May 21st, 2022 at 9:25pm
 
Jim Lahey wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 7:47pm:
I was just saying to my colleague the other day how things would be more difficult not to be able to go out to the Shed and weld something up.

It's a valuable skill even if you just had a cheap stick welder for non structural repairs.

I've been teaching a neighbour of mine a few farms up how to weld, from no idea at all to doing reasonable quality welds in the flat position didn't take long and it's allowed him to make his own gates and do a few repairs here and there.


That'ld be a great help.
Well done
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Reply #12 - May 21st, 2022 at 9:27pm
 
Jim Lahey wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 9:20pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 8:53pm:
I've got a floor mounted drilling machine almost identical to the one the Wright Bros had in their workshop, same era, now an antique

Also a very old lathe, same era

They were pretty cheap to buy about 1990. They earned me many thousands of dollars





What make of lathe?

I have a couple of ward turret lathe and 2 Wilson center lathes all circa1950s

Lovely to use and well made.



That's amazing. 70 years old and lovely to use.
How good is that? Must be a pleasure to turn it on.
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Reply #13 - May 21st, 2022 at 9:31pm
 
A lot of the old English stuff was made to last, and it has been wonderful.

One of the willson lathes was originally setup to run off line shafting so it has the big flat belts.

I have an international t6 petrol crawler tractor which always starts first kick and it has just turned 72 years young. I love old machinery Smiley Smiley
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Reply #14 - May 21st, 2022 at 9:46pm
 
Jim Lahey wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 9:31pm:
A lot of the old English stuff was made to last, and it has been wonderful.

One of the willson lathes was originally setup to run off line shafting so it has the big flat belts.

I have an international t6 petrol crawler tractor which always starts first kick and it has just turned 72 years young. I love old machinery Smiley Smiley


English steel is very good. I like sharpening knives and have sharpened knives from different countries.

English is very good. Better than German.
Japanese is the best. So good it needs a different whetstone and a different angle.

Brazilian steel can be very good too, about as good as English, maybe not quite so good.

German is overrated.
Japanese is in a different class.

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Reply #15 - May 24th, 2022 at 5:13pm
 
Had an uncle had a metal fabricating business. Machines included drills powered by manually spinning two weights?
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Reply #16 - May 24th, 2022 at 5:33pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on May 24th, 2022 at 5:13pm:
Had an uncle had a metal fabricating business. Machines included drills powered by manually spinning two weights?


Sounds like a flyball governor on a steam engine...

never heard of a drill like that.

maybe a punch with 2 flywheels driving a crank?
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Not wheels, weights!

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Reply #18 - May 24th, 2022 at 7:44pm
 
i saw a mechanical hacksaw.
It ran on a slow motor, rotating wheel, back and forward, back and forward.
It had a biggish weight on the hacksaw frame to put some downward pressure on it.

For some reason, it impressed me.
You could put it on a big boring job and go off to do some weeding.
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Reply #19 - May 24th, 2022 at 8:07pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on May 24th, 2022 at 7:44pm:
i saw a mechanical hacksaw.
It ran on a slow motor, rotating wheel, back and forward, back and forward.
It had a biggish weight on the hacksaw frame to put some downward pressure on it.

For some reason, it impressed me.
You could put it on a big boring job and go off to do some weeding.


I've got one, a parkinson 6x6, made by Theo Park and sons engineering  Melbourne

Ill post a picture tomorrow
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Reply #20 - May 25th, 2022 at 5:37pm
 
6x6 hacksaw
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Reply #21 - May 25th, 2022 at 6:08pm
 
Jim Lahey wrote on May 25th, 2022 at 5:37pm:
6x6 hacksaw


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Reply #22 - May 25th, 2022 at 8:26pm
 
Jim Lahey wrote on May 24th, 2022 at 8:07pm:
I've got one



you must have a bloody big shed
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Reply #23 - May 26th, 2022 at 3:45pm
 
John Smith wrote on May 25th, 2022 at 8:26pm:
Jim Lahey wrote on May 24th, 2022 at 8:07pm:
I've got one



you must have a bloody big shed


LOL you can never have a big enough shed.

Id love to build a bigger shed like 20x20x6m high but with the price of steel and a bub on the way its just not going to happen lol
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First bub?
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Jovial Monk wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 6:10pm:
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Jim Lahey wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 7:16pm:
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First bub?


Yep Cheesy


Your first one? Congrats

Boy is your world going to change

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Reply #27 - May 26th, 2022 at 9:27pm
 
Jim Lahey wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 7:16pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 6:10pm:
First bub?


Yep Cheesy



Congratulations
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Reply #28 - May 27th, 2022 at 5:09am
 
John Smith wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 7:29pm:
Jim Lahey wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 7:16pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 6:10pm:
First bub?


Yep Cheesy


Your first one? Congrats

Boy is your world going to change



Yeah tell me about it! Having a little girl:)
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Sprintcyclist wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 9:27pm:
Jim Lahey wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 7:16pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 6:10pm:
First bub?


Yep Cheesy



Congratulations


Thanks Sprint  Smiley
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Reply #30 - May 27th, 2022 at 5:13am
 
Back to the Hacksaw, I bought it for 160 bucks from the local tafe as they are obsolete and have been replaced by bandsaws in most areas.

Its perfect for me as I can cut hydraulic cylinder tube and other heavy sections which would have been impractical in a cold saw.

Its certainly paid for itself many times over, although blades are not that common so I usually order 5 at a time from England.

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Reply #31 - May 27th, 2022 at 8:18am
 
Jim Lahey wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 7:16pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on May 26th, 2022 at 6:10pm:
First bub?


Yep Cheesy


Felicitations!

You will soon forget what un interrupted sleep was like  Smiley
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