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Re: Gender affirmation leave
Reply #330 - May 26^th, 2022 at 2:40pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 2:00pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 1:56pm:

The entire issue the heterosexual community has with gay and lesbian people is that they are not doing their part to have children to help arrest the declining Australian population. We now have to get more migrants to keep Australia's population growth upward. And if you are one of those people that argue "too many people in the world" and therefore have opted not to have children, you are part of the problem. There are too many people in the third world/developing societies. All the voluntary zero population "last of your line" people in Australia are doing is encouraging the importation of third world people to come to Australia and relieving the third world/developing countries of their overpopulation. That just means that developing countries are lesser likely to address their population issues, whilst we have to compete for the lack of employment in ours.

5% of the population of Australia identifying as gay or lesbian might not mean much to population growth statistics. But, us breeders are getting burdened with having to make up for the lack of child-rearing career women and the homosexual community have to do. Atleast I am in favour of homosexuals having the right to adopt children.

Are you mad at people born infertile, or is this more ridiculous bullshit?

Mostly the latter, it would appear.

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Reply #331 - May 26^th, 2022 at 2:44pm

Kat wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 2:37pm:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 24^th, 2022 at 11:16am:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 24^th, 2022 at 11:11am:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 24^th, 2022 at 10:29am:

Regret is almost never the case. We've done this a while, we can measure this. The few people you are watching were talked into a church and hate themselves for Jesus. They are not statistically significant.

You were not born in 1996? Jesus Christ, why are you such a front bottom?

Your sexual claims are your penis insecurity. Kids do know what they want, and experts look in to it. A person with trans regret at one point lied pretty hard to get on to blockers. Blockers are not permanent in any case. They don't stop you staying the gender you are, if you choose.

I doubt that the church is all that important or critical to the decisions of a transgender person. Like you said, they are not statistically significant.

I was born in 1979. Homosexuality was decriminalised in South Australia in 1975. But laws were changed in 1991 for my home state of Qld. So, I was born before homosexuality was decriminalised in my home state. So, I guess I can concede I was wrong on that point. But, your use of "front bottom" to describe someone gives me the impression that the children you talk about are not fathered by you.

My penis works perfectly fine. It had a bit of a scare during my obesity phase and again during my binge drinking phase. But, it is doing well, now. What is your obsession with penises?

you're the ones crying about cock all the time.

You hate trans women, not trans men. You hate homosexuals, not lesbians.

1996 in Tassie, as I recall.....

So hating scum means I don't have kids?

It really is incredible how often this scenario keeps repeating in most of the discussions on the issue in which I've been involved.

Like, these guys probably share public toilets with trans MEN every day and literally wouldn't notice them. That guy waiting for a cubicle when there are vacant urinals? Yeah, he might need a #2 - or he could be a pre-op trans man with nothing (as yet) to point at a urinal, so chooses to wait for a vacant cubicle. But no-one really NOTICES.

But just watch them lose their minds at the thought of a trans WOMAN doing the same in a women's toilet? They do literally lose their little minds, terrified that any trans woman in a public toilet is a pervert who is 'targetting our wives and daughters'. Why the f**k would anyone go to all the trouble of dressing as a woman, in public, with all that entails, if all they wanted was to rape someone. Far easier and less risky ways to go about it, imo, if that's what you're after. And no-one sees each-other's 'bits' anyway in a women's toilet, as everyone's in a cubicle, so that rules out voyeurism as a motive. I'd venture to suggest that if a woman was getting attacked in a toilet and a trans woman was present, most would act to DEFEND the woman being attacked. But it is a matter of public record that trans women have been bashed, raped and even killed, simply for attempting to use use a men's toilet while being dressed as a woman.

They don't get it about trans sports-people either. I showed that HRT/oestrogen treatment reduces both bone and muscle mass to that of a female. I also showed that by this stage there is little or no testosterone being produced. Once they have bottom-surgery and the testicles are removed there is NO testosterone being produced. I lied, according to the 'phobes - but the facts and figures are only a Google search away.

They feel the desire to regurgitate when they think about two guys in bed together, and will sometimes assault people simply for being gay - but will happily sit for hours and watch lesbian porn.

And the silliest thing I've heard for a long time is their belief that transgender people are the result of some sinister left-wing plot to 'turn our kids gay' - despite the fact (and yes, boys and girls, it IS a fact) that trans people have been around since pre-historic times. Can't blame Labor or the Greens for that. Sorry.

Fundamentally, they can't imagine being anywhere near a 12 year old girl with her pants down, and not trying to rape her. Every right wing accusation, is a confession

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Re: Gender affirmation leave
Reply #332 - May 26^th, 2022 at 3:01pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 10:04am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 25^th, 2022 at 9:54am:

No - proving to you that you can't take what you hand out - now behave yourself and you will be treated in a civil fashion.

Resepct your elders - without them you'd have nothing... try offering something apart from rhetoric... you have yet to offer a single solution to anything, but feel thoroughly entitled to lambast others on the basis of your amazing assumptions about their social group and attitudes.... a true idiot, and you kind must never be permitted to run this country.

Oh - Albo's in - suddenly all the woman killing and 45% times more entries (over 90% again) to hospital for bashing treatment to ABO women will stop the moment they're given everything the Abos demand.... suddenly the absolutely miniscule incidence of teenage suicide - allegedly due to gender confusion - will not happen..... suddenly all the women struggling in Housoville will have things better because Albo will give them everything at the expense of everyone else.... (sure he will)... suddenly the incidence of child neglect and abuse will improve when Albo gives everything to the perpetrators......... suddenly everything is rosy for the poofs, the trannies, the Dead Women's Society (94% killed annually by Abos in Aboville- 2 by ethnic imports - doesn't leave much for Mothra's "men" as a whole, does it? Truth from the heart or walk off, boy), The Abused And Neglected Children, the homeless, the single mother part-time worker, the immigrant who never had it so good (read up on the requirements for immigrants, boy), the refugees (a separate group) will suddenly get better treatment... and oh wait - even the poor part-time White Man might get a kick.... not to mention the old aged people(the ones you hate so much you want to burn their civilisation down around them - idiot) ....

What are your ANSWERS to the issues? How will it all be cleared up with Albo's magic wand?

Start talking sense without the vitriol and you might get better treatment - until then your yard walking is off and it's 24/7 soledad for you...

What are your ANSWERS to all these issues?

What can't I take? Your bullshit? It amuses me

bugger old people. They destroyed society. We're fixing it.

A solution to what precisely? Stop being scum. That's the solution.

There is no suicide due to gender confusion, there is no gender confusion. The rest of what you said is bullshit. Except that you hate all minorities, I knew that.

List some issues you want to discuss, you've not done that. Then I'll tell you my solutions.

phuqing hilarious. Without them you wouldn't exist.

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 80270 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Gender affirmation leave Reply #333 - May 26^th, 2022 at 3:21pm We all need our equal ten days off to ascertain if we are on the Straight and Narrow or are confused in some way...... battery of tests.... set everyone's minds to rest.... oh, well - Harry's Straight... that's a relief....
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 80270 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Gender affirmation leave Reply #334 - May 26^th, 2022 at 3:22pm Suicide due to gender confusion at thirteen? Give me a break..... Better to die as a man than live as a monster.....
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Re: Gender affirmation leave
Reply #335 - May 26^th, 2022 at 3:39pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 2:25pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 2:24pm:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 2:14pm:

So everything you said prior was BS? Cool.

Just to clarify, the idea that gay people are holding back Western society by not helping to replace themselves with more Westerners is a prevailing belief that I have read many times over in other forums and websites BY OTHER PEOPLE. I know, and have known, for a long time that the cost of living in Australia is the main reason why people are usually not having more than 2 children per family.

Yeah, I knew Nazis existed.

Nazis nearly destroyed Western society. Their legacy has impeded Western progress.

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FutureTheLeftWant Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6625 Gender:	Re: Gender affirmation leave Reply #336 - May 26^th, 2022 at 3:42pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 3:22pm: Suicide due to gender confusion at thirteen? Give me a break..... Better to die as a man than live as a monster..... No one has 'gender confusion'. The only reason trans kids are at higher suicide risk is that you are a cnut
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Re: Gender affirmation leave
Reply #337 - May 26^th, 2022 at 3:42pm

UnSubRocky wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 3:39pm:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 2:25pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 2:24pm:

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 2:14pm:

So everything you said prior was BS? Cool.

Just to clarify, the idea that gay people are holding back Western society by not helping to replace themselves with more Westerners is a prevailing belief that I have read many times over in other forums and websites BY OTHER PEOPLE. I know, and have known, for a long time that the cost of living in Australia is the main reason why people are usually not having more than 2 children per family.

Yeah, I knew Nazis existed.

Nazis nearly destroyed Western society. Their legacy has impeded Western progress.

They are trying again

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Re: Gender affirmation leave
Reply #339 - May 26^th, 2022 at 3:46pm

Gordon wrote on May 20^th, 2022 at 8:14am:

LoL what a scam

https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/coles/coles-supermarket-will-now-give-trans-and-g...

So if I want to have an extra 10 days off to meditate and confirm that I am a bloke I can also get the gender affirmation leave?

Or will I be discriminated against and denied equal treatment on the basis of my gender?

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Re: Gender affirmation leave
Reply #340 - May 26^th, 2022 at 3:50pm

Kat wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 2:40pm:

Mostly the latter, it would appear.

Kat, you are not even trying to understand this issue with an open-minded perspective. It is either one or the other with you. I am willing to let LGTBQ people live healthy, happy lives to their own content. It does not bother me, as it is none of my business. But, it becomes my business when my posts about what I have heard other people say or what they have written in opposition to LGTBQ people get trashed as bullshit.

You 'appear' to have a hostility to criticism. And I am being fair with my revelation of what I have heard/read other people say on the matter. Call it hearsay all you want. But, when you factor in the way the world works and the prevailing thoughts surmised by Australians of how other nations may think, it becomes a cause of concern that non-heterosexual/non-binary gendered people think that their issues need to take precedent over the majority.

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Re: Gender affirmation leave
Reply #341 - May 26^th, 2022 at 3:54pm

Frank wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 3:46pm:

Gordon wrote on May 20^th, 2022 at 8:14am:

LoL what a scam

https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/coles/coles-supermarket-will-now-give-trans-and-g...

So if I want to have an extra 10 days off to meditate and confirm that I am a bloke I can also get the gender affirmation leave?

Or will I be discriminated against and denied equal treatment on the basis of my gender?

Wait, all of this is because ONE COMPANY did this? Do you not believe in the free market? If you work a poo job at coles, you're allowed to make your request. I can't imagine they created this leave in such a way that you'd need gender surgery to access it

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Reply #342 - May 26^th, 2022 at 3:55pm

UnSubRocky wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 3:50pm:

Kat wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 2:40pm:

Mostly the latter, it would appear.

Kat, you are not even trying to understand this issue with an open-minded perspective. It is either one or the other with you. I am willing to let LGTBQ people live healthy, happy lives to their own content. It does not bother me, as it is none of my business. But, it becomes my business when my posts about what I have heard other people say or what they have written in opposition to LGTBQ people get trashed as bullshit.

You 'appear' to have a hostility to criticism. And I am being fair with my revelation of what I have heard/read other people say on the matter. Call it hearsay all you want. But, when you factor in the way the world works and the prevailing thoughts surmised by Australians of how other nations may think, it becomes a cause of concern that non-heterosexual/non-binary gendered people think that their issues need to take precedent over the majority.

Explain how helping trans kids means they take precedence over me. Explain it like I'm 5.

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Re: Gender affirmation leave
Reply #343 - May 26^th, 2022 at 3:56pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 2:44pm:

Fundamentally, they can't imagine being anywhere near a 12 year old girl with her pants down, and not trying to rape her. Every right wing accusation, is a confession

Amazingly, us "breeders" have a lot of self-control. And most 12-year-old girls have not been raped. Fundamentally, your argument is a strawman.

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Re: Gender affirmation leave
Reply #344 - May 26^th, 2022 at 3:59pm

FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 26^th, 2022 at 3:55pm:

Explain how helping trans kids means they take precedence over me. Explain it like I'm 5.

It is a "squeaky wheel getting the grease" scenario. Heterosexual children with social issues can get the help they need. But, trans children (as rare as they are) have special case needs to be attended to them.

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