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you may add the reason if you want or explain- up to you!!!

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Reply #1 - May 16th, 2022 at 8:21pm
 
I would be more of a xenophobe than what I consider a racist.
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Reply #2 - May 16th, 2022 at 8:21pm
 
I am not. I do not dislike anyone for the colour of their skin or their ethnic background.   What I dislike is the culture that many of these people embrace.
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Reply #3 - May 16th, 2022 at 8:41pm
 
i am not well disposed towards people who are ungrateful, who whine and sook and complain and want to remain perpetual infants

in general asians are hard working and resilient, so i give them props

i find "real" aborigines or africans are also resilient. they arent as industrious but they dont tend to be full of self pity.

white people are at the extremes.

some are dead set champions, over achieiving , amazing executors and people who crush. people like musk , tom brady, richard branson, twiggy forrest, bear grylls, mark wahlberg, federer, steve jobs, steven spelberg.

but a lot of white people suffer from a lack of the evolutionary blowtorch.
they are soft, entitled, lack resilience, focus only on themselves, are takers, prone to addiction to porn and fast food.  when i go to the average mall and look at all the sloppy human beings who are 150 kg, with man boobs and a dead look in their eyes, who are surviving, not thriving, the overwhelming majority are white.

the white man seems to either be in an upward spiral or a downward spiral.

most asians and africans have enough external adversity to keep them growing.

many western whites suffer from a lack of adversity
they need to apply the blowtorch to their own ass , but they are incapable of doing it.

the same goes for a lot of polynesians who come to australia.
the lack of adversity, sees them demolished by obesity and diabetes by the time they hit 50.

i dont think i'm racist but i have little respect for the chode who is living the life of pure garbage in a country like australia which has so so so so many opportunites.

when i hear people complain, in this country, its a joke to me
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Reply #4 - May 16th, 2022 at 9:58pm
 
Nah.  Simple really....

Bear Grylls?  Yeah - it hurts me - I was asked at one time to run adventure trips etc.. couldn't do it - was on a walking stick and I'd never ask anyone to follow where I couldn't lead.... that hurt.
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Reply #5 - May 16th, 2022 at 10:05pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 16th, 2022 at 8:41pm:
i have little respect for the chode who is living the life of pure garbage in a country like australia which has so so so so many opportunites.

when i hear people complain, in this country, its a joke to me



Indeed.

But there is a strong sector in Australia that encourages it, feeds it, feeds off on it. The 'perpetual crisis' industry that sees a disaster, disadvantage, victimhood, dark forces everywhere. And it infects people who are keen for an excuse and to shift responsibility. 



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Reply #6 - May 16th, 2022 at 10:11pm
 
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Reply #7 - May 16th, 2022 at 10:33pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 16th, 2022 at 10:11pm:
No

Cheesy Cheesy

You are the biggest racist imaginable, Bbwian. Unrelenting.



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Reply #8 - May 16th, 2022 at 10:37pm
 
No - I am not racist.
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Reply #9 - May 16th, 2022 at 11:33pm
 
Well there's Racism™ - the commodity for marketing purposes ... then there's Racism.... as per the defined category according to English and thousands of years of philosophy ........

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Reply #10 - May 16th, 2022 at 11:45pm
 
I believe that I am not racist.

I try hard to not be racist.
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Reply #11 - May 16th, 2022 at 11:51pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 16th, 2022 at 8:41pm:
i am not well disposed towards people who are ungrateful, who whine and sook and complain and want to remain perpetual infants

in general asians are hard working and resilient, so i give them props

i find "real" aborigines or africans are also resilient. they arent as industrious but they dont tend to be full of self pity.

white people are at the extremes.

some are dead set champions, over achieiving , amazing executors and people who crush. people like musk , tom brady, richard branson, twiggy forrest, bear grylls, mark wahlberg, federer, steve jobs, steven spelberg.

but a lot of white people suffer from a lack of the evolutionary blowtorch.
they are soft, entitled, lack resilience, focus only on themselves, are takers, prone to addiction to porn and fast food.  when i go to the average mall and look at all the sloppy human beings who are 150 kg, with man boobs and a dead look in their eyes, who are surviving, not thriving, the overwhelming majority are white.

the white man seems to either be in an upward spiral or a downward spiral.

most asians and africans have enough external adversity to keep them growing.

many western whites suffer from a lack of adversity
they need to apply the blowtorch to their own ass , but they are incapable of doing it.

the same goes for a lot of polynesians who come to australia.
the lack of adversity, sees them demolished by obesity and diabetes by the time they hit 50.

i dont think i'm racist but i have little respect for the chode who is living the life of pure garbage in a country like australia which has so so so so many opportunites.

when i hear people complain, in this country, its a joke to me


A very long yes or no.

I didn't want to read the same positivise view chodes and overweight etc and try to work it out.

I will just go with a Yes or Maybe I guess - should be mostly yes I would say.
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Reply #12 - May 17th, 2022 at 12:09am
 
Dnarever wrote on May 16th, 2022 at 11:45pm:
I believe that I am not racist.

I try hard to not be racist.


I think that's my answer also.

At heart I don't think I'm racist.

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Reply #13 - May 17th, 2022 at 12:31am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on May 17th, 2022 at 12:09am:
Dnarever wrote on May 16th, 2022 at 11:45pm:
I believe that I am not racist.

I try hard to not be racist.


I think that's my answer also.

At heart I don't think I'm racist.



I lived in primarily an ethnic community with my family dominated by people with racist views.

I find I need to work at not being racist and that I mostly succeed. Inadvertent racism is the enemy.
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Reply #14 - May 17th, 2022 at 12:50am
 
Ooooh!  Inadvertent racism - as in when a Musso sees you and wonders YTF you are in his neighbourhood?  Like when an Abo wants to know why you're here, Whitey?  Like when you stroll through Vietnamatta and stand out in the crowd??

Maybe I missed something....

Let's try for unconscious racism... you know... like unconscious White privilege.... we Whartes don't even know how much better we get it, eh?

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Reply #15 - May 17th, 2022 at 5:17am
 
Dnarever wrote on May 16th, 2022 at 11:45pm:
I believe that I am not racist.

I try hard to not be racist.



if you have to try hard, you are definitely a racist at heart
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Brian Ross wrote on May 16th, 2022 at 10:11pm:
No



the fact that you would state that reveals the arrogance of your patriachal white priveledge.

you are possibly the worst kind of racist.

one who is so unconscious of their unconsciou bias , they have not even begun to unpack it.

truly appalling
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aquascoot wrote on May 16th, 2022 at 8:41pm:
i am not well disposed towards people who are ungrateful, who whine and sook and complain and want to remain perpetual infants

in general asians are hard working and resilient, so i give them props

i find "real" aborigines or africans are also resilient. they arent as industrious but they dont tend to be full of self pity.

white people are at the extremes.

some are dead set champions, over achieiving , amazing executors and people who crush. people like musk , tom brady, richard branson, twiggy forrest, bear grylls, mark wahlberg, federer, steve jobs, steven spelberg.

but a lot of white people suffer from a lack of the evolutionary blowtorch.
they are soft, entitled, lack resilience, focus only on themselves, are takers, prone to addiction to porn and fast food.  when i go to the average mall and look at all the sloppy human beings who are 150 kg, with man boobs and a dead look in their eyes, who are surviving, not thriving, the overwhelming majority are white.

the white man seems to either be in an upward spiral or a downward spiral.

most asians and africans have enough external adversity to keep them growing.

many western whites suffer from a lack of adversity
they need to apply the blowtorch to their own ass , but they are incapable of doing it.

the same goes for a lot of polynesians who come to australia.
the lack of adversity, sees them demolished by obesity and diabetes by the time they hit 50.

i dont think i'm racist but i have little respect for the chode who is living the life of pure garbage in a country like australia which has so so so so many opportunites.

when i hear people complain, in this country, its a joke to me


You were going well till you put that monumental wanker on your list. Grin

His name is Edward Michael Grylls.

Bear? FFS a total flog.
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Reply #18 - May 17th, 2022 at 8:47am
 
We all have to discriminate
We have to discriminate when we decide who to ask on a date
We have to discriminate when we decide who to employ

I don't discriminate on the basis of skin colour
I discriminate on the basis of a person's energy enthusiasm
The light in their eyes
And whether I consider them to be in high vibration

I see each individual as their own personal ecosystem
And you want to surround yourself with people who are on the up and up
Not people who will drag yourself or your business down


I have worked with an incredibly enthusiastic aboriginal
And possibly the best worker I ever employed was a Vietnamese migrant

Guys who were just brimming with enthusiastic positive energy
That's how you build a successful life

Avoid the chodes
If someone likes playing the victim or wallowing in self-pity
Have a firm boundary which lets them nowhere near your personal ecosystem

It's got nothing to do with skin colour
It's all to do with a person's basic frame

And I find Bear Grylls basic frame very uplifting
He would certainly be welcome in my personal ecosystem
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I am a racist- this I know to be true- I never used to be but then I never got to know anyone up close before- !!

A barebones answer but honest Wink
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Agnes. wrote on May 17th, 2022 at 12:44pm:
I am a racist- this I know to be true- I never used to be but then I never got to know anyone up close before- !!

A barebones answer but honest Wink


Who are you racist against ?

I hope it's not against 1st Gen Aussies of European descent 🥺😩😔
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Reply #21 - May 17th, 2022 at 12:55pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 17th, 2022 at 12:50am:
Ooooh!  Inadvertent racism - as in when a Musso sees you and wonders YTF you are in his neighbourhood?  Like when an Abo wants to know why you're here, Whitey?  Like when you stroll through Vietnamatta and stand out in the crowd??

Maybe I missed something....

Let's try for unconscious racism... you know... like unconscious White privilege.... we Whartes don't even know how much better we get it, eh?

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Reply #22 - May 17th, 2022 at 1:02pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 17th, 2022 at 8:47am:
We all have to discriminate
We have to discriminate when we decide who to ask on a date
We have to discriminate when we decide who to employ

I don't discriminate on the basis of skin colour
I discriminate on the basis of a person's energy enthusiasm
The light in their eyes
And whether I consider them to be in high vibration

I see each individual as their own personal ecosystem
And you want to surround yourself with people who are on the up and up
Not people who will drag yourself or your business down


I have worked with an incredibly enthusiastic aboriginal
And possibly the best worker I ever employed was a Vietnamese migrant

Guys who were just brimming with enthusiastic positive energy
That's how you build a successful life

Avoid the chodes
If someone likes playing the victim or wallowing in self-pity
Have a firm boundary which lets them nowhere near your personal ecosystem

It's got nothing to do with skin colour
It's all to do with a person's basic frame

And I find Bear Grylls basic frame very uplifting
He would certainly be welcome in my personal ecosystem


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We have to discriminate when we decide who to ask on a date


This is no problem for me now but when younger it was in a way. There are some races that I am typically not attracted to but have found it different when I get to know people of some of these races. On first appearance I tend to be attracted to people of my own nationality.

When I know a girl of any nationality my attraction will be more likely based on the person than the look.
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aquascoot wrote on May 17th, 2022 at 5:17am:
Dnarever wrote on May 16th, 2022 at 11:45pm:
I believe that I am not racist.

I try hard to not be racist.



if you have to try hard, you are definitely a racist at heart


You would normally see the positive in making an effort to be better. Continuous improvement.

Most of the effort I need is in not saying something that is taken the wrong way, it is not that I consciously say something racist but that I may say something without thinking it may be perceived that way.
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Dnarever wrote on May 17th, 2022 at 1:02pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 17th, 2022 at 8:47am:
We all have to discriminate
We have to discriminate when we decide who to ask on a date
We have to discriminate when we decide who to employ

I don't discriminate on the basis of skin colour
I discriminate on the basis of a person's energy enthusiasm
The light in their eyes
And whether I consider them to be in high vibration

I see each individual as their own personal ecosystem
And you want to surround yourself with people who are on the up and up
Not people who will drag yourself or your business down


I have worked with an incredibly enthusiastic aboriginal
And possibly the best worker I ever employed was a Vietnamese migrant

Guys who were just brimming with enthusiastic positive energy
That's how you build a successful life

Avoid the chodes
If someone likes playing the victim or wallowing in self-pity
Have a firm boundary which lets them nowhere near your personal ecosystem

It's got nothing to do with skin colour
It's all to do with a person's basic frame

And I find Bear Grylls basic frame very uplifting
He would certainly be welcome in my personal ecosystem


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We have to discriminate when we decide who to ask on a date


This is no problem for me now but when younger it was in a way. There are some races that I am typically not attracted to but have found it different when I get to know people of some of these races. On first appearance I tend to be attracted to people of my own nationality.

When I know a girl of any nationality my attraction will be more likely based on the person than the look.


I've only ever been attracted to Aussie guys or European guys who are 1st Gen Aussies. That's it.

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Reply #25 - May 17th, 2022 at 1:45pm
 
I am not obliged to answer who I am racist against- But I guess you could say its not any one skin colour or person but more the values of that person! for instance I hate any person who has a hatred of children- so i guess that counts  the indian race as pple I am racist against- that does not mean that all Indian pple are included in my list  ( women are out for instance)-  there is a lot of other reasons but thats it for now!
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Reply #26 - May 17th, 2022 at 2:10pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on May 17th, 2022 at 1:11pm:
Dnarever wrote on May 17th, 2022 at 1:02pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 17th, 2022 at 8:47am:
We all have to discriminate
We have to discriminate when we decide who to ask on a date
We have to discriminate when we decide who to employ

I don't discriminate on the basis of skin colour
I discriminate on the basis of a person's energy enthusiasm
The light in their eyes
And whether I consider them to be in high vibration

I see each individual as their own personal ecosystem
And you want to surround yourself with people who are on the up and up
Not people who will drag yourself or your business down


I have worked with an incredibly enthusiastic aboriginal
And possibly the best worker I ever employed was a Vietnamese migrant

Guys who were just brimming with enthusiastic positive energy
That's how you build a successful life

Avoid the chodes
If someone likes playing the victim or wallowing in self-pity
Have a firm boundary which lets them nowhere near your personal ecosystem

It's got nothing to do with skin colour
It's all to do with a person's basic frame

And I find Bear Grylls basic frame very uplifting
He would certainly be welcome in my personal ecosystem


Quote:
We have to discriminate when we decide who to ask on a date


This is no problem for me now but when younger it was in a way. There are some races that I am typically not attracted to but have found it different when I get to know people of some of these races. On first appearance I tend to be attracted to people of my own nationality.

When I know a girl of any nationality my attraction will be more likely based on the person than the look.


I've only ever been attracted to Aussie guys or European guys who are 1st Gen Aussies. That's it.



My first GF was first gen Au from an Italian / Russian mix. I have gone out with Italian, Hungarian, Aboriginal, Asian but mostly Australian.

Draw the line at Texans. Went on a trip with a group of girls from Texas and never again but I am sure they are not representative of everyone from Texas but gee they were all unpleasant. They were loud and obnoxious, each and every one of  them would go well out of their way to shout at and insult anyone they could find. They were embarrassing. As a male had I behaved the way they did I would have been punched in the face every day and deserved it yet these girls were outraged any time that anyone defended themselves. The friend I was travelling with and I laugh about it now.
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Reply #27 - May 17th, 2022 at 2:56pm
 
All of you who have claimed you are not racist have only confirmed that you are racist. This is the tenet of the SJW!  Grin
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Reply #28 - May 17th, 2022 at 3:10pm
 
I determine myself to be technically racist, as I believe that race accounts for physical and psychological differences among the races. But, I do not like to treat races differently.

My father has an issue with various races. I am allowed to date whomever I choose. But, Dad has a problem with Asian and African people. He has no problem with me dating a Lebanese or biracial aboriginal woman. He did draw the line at Asian women. Although, one woman of Japanese ethnicity had an Australian accent. He was okay with her. I can forget about being part of the family, if my girlfriend is of Middle Eastern or African ethnicity.
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Reply #29 - May 17th, 2022 at 3:56pm
 
Belgarion wrote on May 16th, 2022 at 8:21pm:
I am not. I do not dislike anyone for the colour of their skin or their ethnic background.   What I dislike is the culture that many of these people embrace.



That's the nub of it.

A better question (doesnt roll of the tongue as easily as "are you a racist?") Is: "Do you notice cultural differences - positive as well as negative - between different ethnicities, races, classes of people, between different age groups and the sexes?"

It would be wilful blindness not to notice all the various differences people themselves notice in themselves, including their race, ethnicity, class, age sex.  There is a certain level of solidarity among each grouping but none of them are ultimate destiny in themselves.

"Racist" -and the various -phobes - are very short shortcuts, often used to cudgel people who do notice all sorts of differences, including ethnic and racial differences that also point to cultural differences.  But who could say that there is no difference between, say, Obama, a 5th generation black who is a drug dealing gangster in Chicago, Ayan Hirsi Ali and Earnie Dingo even though they are all black. Their skin colour is insignificant in comparison to their many other, much more significant cultural, sex and class differences.
Or would anyone say that David Attenborough, Brenton Tarrant and Myra Hindley are essentially the same since they are all white? Of course not. Do they have a lot in common, such as language, Anglo cultural background? Of course. But there are much more significant differences between them, in morals, culture (despite ethnic similarity), esteem, etc.


Culture is a better indicator of people as it includes more about historic background, ethical set of values, class, sex, age etc.  But "culturalist" doesn't roll off the tongue as easily as "racist".





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Reply #30 - May 17th, 2022 at 5:45pm
 
Apologies but I need to correct my previous answer.

Actually... I AM racist! I can't stand Americans. They give me the shytes. There is something seriously wrong with that country.

I'm ever so glad my parents ended up migrating to Sydney back in the 1960's. They were originally going to go to the United States but things changed at the last minute.

For whatever reason/s anything crazy or stupid or extreme seems to have some connection with America.

I'm both thankful and proud to be an Australian 🇦🇺 

Edit : I also can't stand the awful and diabolical things Americans do to the English language. 😔😩🥺
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Reply #31 - May 17th, 2022 at 6:06pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on May 17th, 2022 at 5:45pm:
Apologies but I need to correct my previous answer.

Actually... I AM racist! I can't stand Americans. They give me the shytes. There is something seriously wrong with that country.

I'm ever so glad my parents ended up migrating to Sydney back in the 1960's. They were originally going to go to the United States but things changed at the last minute.

For whatever reason/s anything crazy or stupid or extreme seems to have some connection with America.

I'm both thankful and proud to be an Australian 🇦🇺 

Edit : I also can't stand the awful and diabolical things Americans do to the English language. 😔😩🥺



That's a bit of a second-hand, silly generalisation, Lisa. Review it.

The freedom - the very idea - of America means a huge variety of views, types, lives (not unlike Australia, but happening for longer and even more purposefully and consciously). America is a microcosm of the world (if 320 million people can be a 'micro' cosmos), in a way China, India, Russia, Japan, Africa, Latin America, Europe are NOT a microcosm.

The irritating people in China, the Arab world, Asia, Russia etc are silenced or even killed by the gruesome people of those places. In America, they can speak. AS CAN AND DO the best minds, the best innovators, the best humanitarians.

You are irritated by some Americans because you understand them - and not so irritated by Indians, Chinese, Africans etc, etc because you don't understand them. If you did, you would be appalled.

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aquascoot wrote on May 17th, 2022 at 8:47am:
We all have to discriminate
We have to discriminate when we decide who to ask on a date
We have to discriminate when we decide who to employ

I don't discriminate on the basis of skin colour
I discriminate on the basis of a person's energy enthusiasm
The light in their eyes
And whether I consider them to be in high vibration

I see each individual as their own personal ecosystem
And you want to surround yourself with people who are on the up and up
Not people who will drag yourself or your business down


I have worked with an incredibly enthusiastic aboriginal
And possibly the best worker I ever employed was a Vietnamese migrant

Guys who were just brimming with enthusiastic positive energy
That's how you build a successful life

Avoid the chodes
If someone likes playing the victim or wallowing in self-pity
Have a firm boundary which lets them nowhere near your personal ecosystem

It's got nothing to do with skin colour
It's all to do with a person's basic frame

And I find Bear Grylls basic frame very uplifting
He would certainly be welcome in my personal ecosystem


The OBE means squat ..... Ted Grylls is a monumental flog.

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Reply #33 - May 17th, 2022 at 6:11pm
 
Dnarever wrote on May 17th, 2022 at 1:10pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 17th, 2022 at 5:17am:
Dnarever wrote on May 16th, 2022 at 11:45pm:
I believe that I am not racist.

I try hard to not be racist.



if you have to try hard, you are definitely a racist at heart


You would normally see the positive in making an effort to be better. Continuous improvement.

Most of the effort I need is in not saying something that is taken the wrong way, it is not that I consciously say something racist but that I may say something without thinking it may be perceived that way.



What? ... participation trophies?  Grin
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Reply #34 - May 17th, 2022 at 6:13pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on May 17th, 2022 at 1:11pm:
Dnarever wrote on May 17th, 2022 at 1:02pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 17th, 2022 at 8:47am:
We all have to discriminate
We have to discriminate when we decide who to ask on a date
We have to discriminate when we decide who to employ

I don't discriminate on the basis of skin colour
I discriminate on the basis of a person's energy enthusiasm
The light in their eyes
And whether I consider them to be in high vibration

I see each individual as their own personal ecosystem
And you want to surround yourself with people who are on the up and up
Not people who will drag yourself or your business down


I have worked with an incredibly enthusiastic aboriginal
And possibly the best worker I ever employed was a Vietnamese migrant

Guys who were just brimming with enthusiastic positive energy
That's how you build a successful life

Avoid the chodes
If someone likes playing the victim or wallowing in self-pity
Have a firm boundary which lets them nowhere near your personal ecosystem

It's got nothing to do with skin colour
It's all to do with a person's basic frame

And I find Bear Grylls basic frame very uplifting
He would certainly be welcome in my personal ecosystem


Quote:
We have to discriminate when we decide who to ask on a date


This is no problem for me now but when younger it was in a way. There are some races that I am typically not attracted to but have found it different when I get to know people of some of these races. On first appearance I tend to be attracted to people of my own nationality.

When I know a girl of any nationality my attraction will be more likely based on the person than the look.


I've only ever been attracted to Aussie guys or European guys who are 1st Gen Aussies. That's it.



1st generation?

Should be 3rd or 4th - nearly 5th generation for you.
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Reply #35 - May 17th, 2022 at 6:15pm
 
Dnarever wrote on May 17th, 2022 at 2:10pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on May 17th, 2022 at 1:11pm:
Dnarever wrote on May 17th, 2022 at 1:02pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 17th, 2022 at 8:47am:
We all have to discriminate
We have to discriminate when we decide who to ask on a date
We have to discriminate when we decide who to employ

I don't discriminate on the basis of skin colour
I discriminate on the basis of a person's energy enthusiasm
The light in their eyes
And whether I consider them to be in high vibration

I see each individual as their own personal ecosystem
And you want to surround yourself with people who are on the up and up
Not people who will drag yourself or your business down


I have worked with an incredibly enthusiastic aboriginal
And possibly the best worker I ever employed was a Vietnamese migrant

Guys who were just brimming with enthusiastic positive energy
That's how you build a successful life

Avoid the chodes
If someone likes playing the victim or wallowing in self-pity
Have a firm boundary which lets them nowhere near your personal ecosystem

It's got nothing to do with skin colour
It's all to do with a person's basic frame

And I find Bear Grylls basic frame very uplifting
He would certainly be welcome in my personal ecosystem


Quote:
We have to discriminate when we decide who to ask on a date


This is no problem for me now but when younger it was in a way. There are some races that I am typically not attracted to but have found it different when I get to know people of some of these races. On first appearance I tend to be attracted to people of my own nationality.

When I know a girl of any nationality my attraction will be more likely based on the person than the look.


I've only ever been attracted to Aussie guys or European guys who are 1st Gen Aussies. That's it.



My first GF was first gen Au from an Italian / Russian mix. I have gone out with Italian, Hungarian, Aboriginal, Asian but mostly Australian.

Draw the line at Texans. Went on a trip with a group of girls from Texas and never again but I am sure they are not representative of everyone from Texas but gee they were all unpleasant. They were loud and obnoxious, each and every one of  them would go well out of their way to shout at and insult anyone they could find. They were embarrassing. As a male had I behaved the way they did I would have been punched in the face every day and deserved it yet these girls were outraged any time that anyone defended themselves. The friend I was travelling with and I laugh about it now.



Ah so Aboriginals aren't Australians?  Grin
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Reply #36 - May 17th, 2022 at 6:19pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on May 17th, 2022 at 5:45pm:
Apologies but I need to correct my previous answer.

Actually... I AM racist! I can't stand Americans. They give me the shytes. There is something seriously wrong with that country.

I'm ever so glad my parents ended up migrating to Sydney back in the 1960's. They were originally going to go to the United States but things changed at the last minute.

For whatever reason/s anything crazy or stupid or extreme seems to have some connection with America.

I'm both thankful and proud to be an Australian 🇦🇺 

Edit : I also can't stand the awful and diabolical things Americans do to the English language. 😔😩🥺



Geesus .... Americans aren't a race.

They have the same origins that a majority of Australians do.

English, Irish, Scots, Welsh, Italian, Sicilian, French, Dutch, Scandinavian. etc. 
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Reply #37 - May 17th, 2022 at 6:28pm
 
Frank wrote on May 17th, 2022 at 6:06pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on May 17th, 2022 at 5:45pm:
Apologies but I need to correct my previous answer.

Actually... I AM racist! I can't stand Americans. They give me the shytes. There is something seriously wrong with that country.

I'm ever so glad my parents ended up migrating to Sydney back in the 1960's. They were originally going to go to the United States but things changed at the last minute.

For whatever reason/s anything crazy or stupid or extreme seems to have some connection with America.

I'm both thankful and proud to be an Australian 🇦🇺 

Edit : I also can't stand the awful and diabolical things Americans do to the English language. 😔😩🥺



That's a bit of a second-hand, silly generalisation, Lisa. Review it.

The freedom - the very idea - of America means a huge variety of views, types, lives (not unlike Australia, but happening for longer and even more purposefully and consciously). America is a microcosm of the world (if 320 million people can be a 'micro' cosmos), in a way China, India, Russia, Japan, Africa, Latin America, Europe are NOT a microcosm.

The irritating people in China, the Arab world, Asia, Russia etc are silenced or even killed by the gruesome people of those places. In America, they can speak. AS CAN AND DO the best minds, the best innovators, the best humanitarians.

You are irritated by some Americans because you understand them - and not so irritated by Indians, Chinese, Africans etc, etc because you don't understand them. If you did, you would be appalled.



You're right of course.

Now that I think of it...I can't stand Greeks and Italians. They're over the top too.

I mean why must we have 500 people at our wedding? Why is this considered normal? It's not normal! It's bloody stupid! And unnecessary IMO!

Perhaps I just don't like certain things I see in the different cultures around me. I'm free to like and not like aspects of different cultures...yes?

Actually it's not the race but the culture that I seem to be referring to. Maybe I'm not racist after all.


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Reply #38 - May 17th, 2022 at 6:32pm
 
Gnads wrote on May 17th, 2022 at 6:19pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on May 17th, 2022 at 5:45pm:
Apologies but I need to correct my previous answer.

Actually... I AM racist! I can't stand Americans. They give me the shytes. There is something seriously wrong with that country.

I'm ever so glad my parents ended up migrating to Sydney back in the 1960's. They were originally going to go to the United States but things changed at the last minute.

For whatever reason/s anything crazy or stupid or extreme seems to have some connection with America.

I'm both thankful and proud to be an Australian 🇦🇺 

Edit : I also can't stand the awful and diabolical things Americans do to the English language. 😔😩🥺



Geesus .... Americans aren't a race.

They have the same origins that a majority of Australians do.

English, Irish, Scots, Welsh, Italian, Sicilian, French, Dutch, Scandinavian. etc. 


😔

I've had a hard day ok lol?

(I think my underlying problem is that I just love Australia too much. So for me every other country is inferior to Australia).
😂🤣😆


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Reply #39 - May 17th, 2022 at 9:46pm
 
OK you are the Government and a certain group of people for "Cultural Reasons" like to Rape and murder children.

Do you take those kids into care so they are not raped and murdered?

Yes you do.

End of story

What do you think of those people?

Have you seen the carnage?

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The question asked should be broader than, 'are you a racist?' (whatever that is).

The question should 'am I an ethno-chauvinist'?

To which the answer for anyone, in varying degrees, is almost certainly yes.
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OK you are the Government and a certain group of people for "Cultural Reasons" like to Rape and murder children.

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OK you are the Government and a certain group of people for "Cultural Reasons" like to Rape and murder children.

Do you take those kids into care so they are not raped and murdered?


Not all Christians are rapists or murderers of children.
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tickleandrose wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 11:07am:
Boris wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 11:02am:
OK you are the Government and a certain group of people for "Cultural Reasons" like to Rape and murder children.

Do you take those kids into care so they are not raped and murdered?


Not all Christians are rapists or murderers of children. 


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Boris wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 11:02am:
OK you are the Government and a certain group of people for "Cultural Reasons" like to Rape and murder children.

Do you take those kids into care so they are not raped and murdered?


Not all Christians are rapists or murderers of children. 


Not all rapists are children of murderers and Christians, either.

Anyway - I'm no racist - I'm an egalitarian - I consider that even Forrest Gump pulls his trousers on one sleeve at a time...
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Anyway - I'm no racist - I'm an egalitarian - I consider that even Forrest Gump pulls his trousers on one sleeve at a time...

Your posts here indicate that you're ethno-chauvinistic; as we all are to varying degrees.
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Does not liking a group of people because of their behaviour make you racist?
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Framing someone based on their race for things that he or she did not do is a racist who tries to disguise himself as a righteous warrior.   Why bother.   Just be racist.
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Framing someone based on their race for things that he or she did not do is a racist who tries to disguise himself as a righteous warrior.   Why bother.   Just be racist. 

We discriminate far more often (and nearly all the time) based on ethnicity, culture and religion than on the nebulous (and ultimately undefinable) concept of race.

'Race' (as in black and white) obsession is an American thing.
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Does not liking a group of people because of their behaviour make you racist?

You may not like a group of people based on their behaviour because of their cultural, ethnic and religious differences; which is, broadly speaking, ethno-chauvinism - they don't have to be a different skin colour to be identified as an outgroup.
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Does not liking a group of people because of their behaviour make you racist?


If it is a small group of people causing problems, it is not racist to have a disliking to them.
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The behaviour consists of rape murder theft and assaults and raping and murdering children.

They stopped eating them
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Framing someone based on their race for things that he or she did not do is a racist who tries to disguise himself as a righteous warrior.   Why bother.   Just be racist. 


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Is Islam a race?
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i am not well disposed towards people who are ungrateful, who whine and sook and complain and want to remain perpetual infants
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John Smith wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 7:15pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 16th, 2022 at 8:41pm:
i am not well disposed towards people who are ungrateful, who whine and sook and complain and want to remain perpetual infants
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you must hate yourself. During the Rudd / Gillard govt. there wasn't a single day you didn't whine, sook and complain



incorrect.

i wasnt even on this site then and i spent my days running my business and being awesome.

dont ever focus on something you dislike .
it will give you an emotional state crash.

look at our poor trump addicts.
they have an emotional set point of anger and frustration and such emotional states are addictive.

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No - it's a mental disorder based on death.
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Belgarion wrote on May 16th, 2022 at 8:21pm:
I am not. I do not dislike anyone for the colour of their skin or their ethnic background.   What I dislike is the culture that many of these people embrace.



That's the nub of it.

A better question (doesnt roll of the tongue as easily as "are you a racist?") Is: "Do you notice cultural differences - positive as well as negative - between different ethnicities, races, classes of people, between different age groups and the sexes?"


Don't want to say, eh?

Now why's that, old boy? Why do you feel compelled to shift the question?

I'm curious.
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Gordon? Don't want to say?

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aquascoot wrote on May 16th, 2022 at 8:41pm:
i am not well disposed towards people who are ungrateful, who whine and sook and complain and want to remain perpetual infants

in general asians are hard working and resilient, so i give them props

i find "real" aborigines or africans are also resilient. they arent as industrious but they dont tend to be full of self pity.

white people are at the extremes.

some are dead set champions, over achieiving , amazing executors and people who crush. people like musk , tom brady, richard branson, twiggy forrest, bear grylls, mark wahlberg, federer, steve jobs, steven spelberg.

but a lot of white people suffer from a lack of the evolutionary blowtorch.
they are soft, entitled, lack resilience, focus only on themselves, are takers, prone to addiction to porn and fast food.  when i go to the average mall and look at all the sloppy human beings who are 150 kg, with man boobs and a dead look in their eyes, who are surviving, not thriving, the overwhelming majority are white.

the white man seems to either be in an upward spiral or a downward spiral.

most asians and africans have enough external adversity to keep them growing.

many western whites suffer from a lack of adversity
they need to apply the blowtorch to their own ass , but they are incapable of doing it.

the same goes for a lot of polynesians who come to australia.
the lack of adversity, sees them demolished by obesity and diabetes by the time they hit 50.

i dont think i'm racist but i have little respect for the chode who is living the life of pure garbage in a country like australia which has so so so so many opportunites.

when i hear people complain, in this country, its a joke to me


A very long yes or no.



Ra-ther.

Would you like to have a stab at the question, Aquascoot? You seem unsure.
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Mattyfisk wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 7:35pm:
Gordon wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 6:46pm:
Is Islam a race?


Gordon? Don't want to say?

Here's your chance to finally put those rumours to rest.


Nah - just not in the race.....
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Agnes. wrote on May 16th, 2022 at 8:17pm:
you may add the reason if you want or explain- up to you!!!

Yes I am!


There, you see? Most brave, dear. You're now free to bang on about "these people" as much as you like and nobody can complain.

Oh, some try to shift and twist and contort themselves into the most surreal ontological positions - inferior morality, breeding, culture. And all to avoid the bleedingly obvious admission: racist.

Such desperate clinging, trying so hard to be virtuous and respectable, and for what? A racist is a racist. We all know.

They're such flirts, but at the bottom, they just want to be rogered. Daddy might have been a bit tough, so they like to keep a stiff upper lip. No pain no gain, they say, so butch, but they wince at the merest hint of a slight. Most thin-skinned, quite paranoid too. The tinted races are always out to get them, ripping them off at every turn. They only come here to moan about how hard done by they all are, but catch them out and it's racist? Moi? How very dare you, ranting, frothing, etc. 

What is racism? They say. Can you say? No? You must be racist. Then it's how very dare you, ranting, frothing, etc, all over again. They do love to struggle.

But you just get it all over with. I'm racist, you say. No flirting, straight to bed. It's most liberating.

Now, if anyone catches you out wanting to kill Boongs or having a go at Chows or Curries or Muslims (not a race), you can just remind them. I'm racist, you say, and that's the end of that.

It's not much fun, but what can anybody do? You're racist. And you can hang around for as long as you like until Stormfront catches your eye and you're off to join Herbie and Bogie and all the other card-carrying Nazis who get tired of prefixing everything with I'm not racist, but...

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 8:09pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 7:35pm:
Gordon wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 6:46pm:
Is Islam a race?


Gordon? Don't want to say?

Here's your chance to finally put those rumours to rest.


Nah - just not in the race.....


Are you racist, Grappler? You haven't said.
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Bobby. wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 7:30pm:
Gordon wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 6:46pm:
Is Islam a race?



No - it's a mental disorder based on death.


Bobby? You're not racist.

Did we catch you correctly?
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aquascoot wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 7:21pm:
John Smith wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 7:15pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 16th, 2022 at 8:41pm:
i am not well disposed towards people who are ungrateful, who whine and sook and complain and want to remain perpetual infants
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you must hate yourself. During the Rudd / Gillard govt. there wasn't a single day you didn't whine, sook and complain



incorrect.

i wasnt even on this site then and i spent my days running my business and being awesome.

dont ever focus on something you dislike .
it will give you an emotional state crash.




Chodes. Lives of pure garbage. You might not be sure if you're racist, but you do love to hate chodes.

It gets the blood going, no?
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Reply #68 - May 18th, 2022 at 8:28pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 8:19pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 7:21pm:
John Smith wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 7:15pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 16th, 2022 at 8:41pm:
i am not well disposed towards people who are ungrateful, who whine and sook and complain and want to remain perpetual infants
e




you must hate yourself. During the Rudd / Gillard govt. there wasn't a single day you didn't whine, sook and complain



incorrect.

i wasnt even on this site then and i spent my days running my business and being awesome.

dont ever focus on something you dislike .
it will give you an emotional state crash.




Chodes. Lives of pure garbage. You might not be sure if you're racist, but you do love to hate chodes.

It gets the blood going, no?



incorrect.

you should bounce out of bed with a plan.
that plan should  be to construct a personal ecosystem of positivity.


when you see a toxic entity that will harm other people, you dont hate it, you just issue a warning to others not to go near it as its harmful


if i see  a brown snake, i have a duty to mentor others to stay away.
that creature is harmful

if i see a chode (all self pity and toxic negativity, feeling sorry for himself, stuck in a chode purgatory of self pleasure and sugar and porn and whining and complaining and entitlement) i have a duty to mentor others to stay away.
that creature is harmful

we dont hate the chode
we avoid and see him as a cautionary tale

success is rare
difficult to achieve and hard to sustain
failure is the norm
garbage is the default.

thats why its a narrow road to success.
its almost deserted  Tongue Tongue Tongue
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Reply #69 - May 18th, 2022 at 8:51pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 7:14pm:
Gordon wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 6:46pm:
Is Islam a race?

Islamism is religio-cutural based.

To conflate everything into 'race' is an Americanism.


So it's just a set of ideas, therefore, thinking it's a big load of schite can't be racist.
Coolies.
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Gordon wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 8:51pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 7:14pm:
Gordon wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 6:46pm:
Is Islam a race?

Islamism is religio-cutural based.

To conflate everything into 'race' is an Americanism.


So it's just a set of ideas, therefore, thinking it's a big load of schite can't be racist.
Coolies.

If you're not predisposed to ideas beyond your cultural, religious or ethnic milieu, or those that challenge your disposition, thinking it's a big load of shite is a likely outcome.
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Reply #71 - May 18th, 2022 at 9:41pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 9:27pm:
Gordon wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 8:51pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 7:14pm:
Gordon wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 6:46pm:
Is Islam a race?

Islamism is religio-cutural based.

To conflate everything into 'race' is an Americanism.


So it's just a set of ideas, therefore, thinking it's a big load of schite can't be racist.
Coolies.

If you're not predisposed to ideas beyond your cultural, religious or ethnic milieu, or those that challenge your disposition, thinking it's a big load of shite is a likely outcome.


Plenty of people are accepting of one culture different to their own then called a racist or bigot for thinking another (or parts of) is a load of crap.
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One of my dearest friends was an Indian. We joked about how dark he was  - you couldn't see him on a moonless night.

I  was immensely proud of his sons' achievements in a reflected glory kind of way. All of us who knew them were proud and impressed. Magnificent young men of a magnificent father who brought them up alone.

He taught me how to make chapaties  and to cherish and love Australia.  I think of him every day.


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Gordon wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 9:41pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 9:27pm:
Gordon wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 8:51pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 7:14pm:
Gordon wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 6:46pm:
Is Islam a race?

Islamism is religio-cutural based.

To conflate everything into 'race' is an Americanism.


So it's just a set of ideas, therefore, thinking it's a big load of schite can't be racist.
Coolies.

If you're not predisposed to ideas beyond your cultural, religious or ethnic milieu, or those that challenge your disposition, thinking it's a big load of shite is a likely outcome.


Plenty of people are accepting of one culture different to their own then called a racist or bigot for thinking another (or parts of) is a load of crap.

It is a common mistake made by citizens of distinct cultures (and in particular young and isolated cultures) for the population to presume that all people think like them, they like others, and that their values are universal.

Hence the apoplexy felt when they are disabused of that presumption.

It's not 'racism' to feel one's ethnic, religious, or cultural milieu is superior to all others - it's innate.

What matters is whether you act reflexively violent on this innate sensibility or not.
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Frank wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 9:44pm:
One of my dearest friends was an Indian. We joked about how dark he was  - you couldn't see him on a moonless night.

Indian cultures consider dark skin (even among their own) as a curse.
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MeisterEckhart wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 10:06pm:
Frank wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 9:44pm:
One of my dearest friends was an Indian. We joked about how dark he was  - you couldn't see him on a moonless night.

Indian cultures consider dark skin (even among their own) as a curse.

Yes, Indians are the worst primitive racists, like the Chinese.
That's why I loved my friend, he was not at all determined by all that shite.
Everyone loved him because it was about him, not his colour. Joking about his colour - always by him -  reinforced our bonds being deeper, more humane.


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Gordon wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 8:51pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 7:14pm:
Gordon wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 6:46pm:
Is Islam a race?

Islamism is religio-cutural based.

To conflate everything into 'race' is an Americanism.


So it's just a set of ideas, therefore, thinking it's a big load of schite can't be racist.
Coolies.


Sorry, Gordon, have you answered the question?

You don't have to own up if you don't want. We'll understand.

No comment, no?
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aquascoot wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 8:28pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 8:19pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 7:21pm:
John Smith wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 7:15pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 16th, 2022 at 8:41pm:
i am not well disposed towards people who are ungrateful, who whine and sook and complain and want to remain perpetual infants
e




you must hate yourself. During the Rudd / Gillard govt. there wasn't a single day you didn't whine, sook and complain



incorrect.

i wasnt even on this site then and i spent my days running my business and being awesome.

dont ever focus on something you dislike .
it will give you an emotional state crash.




Chodes. Lives of pure garbage. You might not be sure if you're racist, but you do love to hate chodes.

It gets the blood going, no?



incorrect.

you should bounce out of bed with a plan.
that plan should  be to construct a personal ecosystem of positivity.


when you see a toxic entity that will harm other people, you dont hate it, you just issue a warning to others not to go near it as its harmful


if i see  a brown snake, i have a duty to mentor others to stay away.
that creature is harmful

if i see a chode (all self pity and toxic negativity, feeling sorry for himself, stuck in a chode purgatory of self pleasure and sugar and porn and whining and complaining and entitlement) i have a duty to mentor others to stay away.
that creature is harmful

we dont hate the chode
we avoid and see him as a cautionary tale

success is rare
difficult to achieve and hard to sustain
failure is the norm
garbage is the default.

thats why its a narrow road to success.
its almost deserted  Tongue Tongue Tongue


One may, from time to time, see a brown snake, it is so.

But it helps to focus and look clearly. One may see a stick. It has happened to us all at one time or another, no?

Now what should we do if we see a stick? The chode cringes, screaming about brown snakes or being hit with sticks or whatever, and runs off flapping away. The Boong sees an idea for an invention - a musical instrument perhaps, or a weapon to spear the chode, who might make a good meal - or a good lay, depending.

The Superior Man sees all and says ah. Are you a little bit racist? That's okay, just confess it and move on. We won't mind.

Sure, it means anything you have to say about the tinted races in future is based on your pathological racist mindset, which you've acknowledged, but that's okay. We won't hold it against you.

At least you're out of the closet, no?
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Frank wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 10:14pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 10:06pm:
Frank wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 9:44pm:
One of my dearest friends was an Indian. We joked about how dark he was  - you couldn't see him on a moonless night.

Indian cultures consider dark skin (even among their own) as a curse.

Yes, Indians are the worst primitive racists, like the Chinese.
That's why I loved my friend, he was not at all determined by all that shite.
Everyone loved him because it was about him, not his colour. Joking about his colour - always by him -  reinforced our bonds being deeper, more humane.


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Frank wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 10:14pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 10:06pm:
Frank wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 9:44pm:
One of my dearest friends was an Indian. We joked about how dark he was  - you couldn't see him on a moonless night.

Indian cultures consider dark skin (even among their own) as a curse.

Yes, Indians are the worst primitive racists, like the Chinese.
That's why I loved my friend, he was not at all determined by all that shite.
Everyone loved him because it was about him, not his colour. Joking about his colour - always by him -  reinforced our bonds being deeper, more humane.




Yes, one may have bonds with the tinted races, this is true. That's white man's burden, no? They must be colonised, as is their fate. You did the right thing.

You loved him. Everything about him reinforced your bond - his primitive smell, his moonless tinted flesh, the touch of his swarthy skin, the taste of his rich, primeval stool - his chapatis.

They might be the lowest of primitives as you suggest, but you allowed your love to grow deeper, in accord with your earthly desire. It's perfectly normal. Alexander the Great, Cecil B Rhodes, J Edgar Hoover, great men. They've all been there, dear boy.

It's quite common, it happens all the time. Don't hate yourself for it. This only devalues the love you gave him - the love you shared.

Now, would you like to answer the question?
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Reply #80 - May 18th, 2022 at 11:28pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 10:04pm:
Gordon wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 9:41pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 9:27pm:
Gordon wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 8:51pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 7:14pm:
Gordon wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 6:46pm:
Is Islam a race?

Islamism is religio-cutural based.

To conflate everything into 'race' is an Americanism.


So it's just a set of ideas, therefore, thinking it's a big load of schite can't be racist.
Coolies.

If you're not predisposed to ideas beyond your cultural, religious or ethnic milieu, or those that challenge your disposition, thinking it's a big load of shite is a likely outcome.


Plenty of people are accepting of one culture different to their own then called a racist or bigot for thinking another (or parts of) is a load of crap.

It is a common mistake made by citizens of distinct cultures (and in particular young and isolated cultures) for the population to presume that all people think like them, they like others, and that their values are universal.

Hence the apoplexy felt when they are disabused of that presumption.

It's not 'racism' to feel one's ethnic, religious, or cultural milieu is superior to all others - it's innate.


Actually, that's the very essence of racism, Meister. Thanks for providing a definition.

It's hardly innate. Most of us had different races in our kindergarten. Few of us noticed.

Race has to be pointed out, as every schoolboy knows.
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Yes I think you have it covered, it will very likely be one of those.
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The other week I backed number 4 in the 6th at Randwick but I promise that I had no idea that the horse was black.

When I think about it - it may have only been its hair colour.
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Gordon wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 6:46pm:
Is Islam a race?


A race to eradicate post-modernism, perhaps.
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The other week I backed number 4 in the 6th at Randwick but I promise that I had no idea that the horse was black.

When I think about it - it may have only been its hair colour.


Culture, Dnarever. Correlation not causation, innit.
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Mattyfisk wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 11:28pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 10:04pm:
Gordon wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 9:41pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 9:27pm:
Gordon wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 8:51pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 7:14pm:
Gordon wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 6:46pm:
Is Islam a race?

Islamism is religio-cutural based.

To conflate everything into 'race' is an Americanism.


So it's just a set of ideas, therefore, thinking it's a big load of schite can't be racist.
Coolies.

If you're not predisposed to ideas beyond your cultural, religious or ethnic milieu, or those that challenge your disposition, thinking it's a big load of shite is a likely outcome.


Plenty of people are accepting of one culture different to their own then called a racist or bigot for thinking another (or parts of) is a load of crap.

It is a common mistake made by citizens of distinct cultures (and in particular young and isolated cultures) for the population to presume that all people think like them, they like others, and that their values are universal.

Hence the apoplexy felt when they are disabused of that presumption.

It's not 'racism' to feel one's ethnic, religious, or cultural milieu is superior to all others - it's innate.


Actually, that's the very essence of racism, Meister. Thanks for providing a definition.

It's hardly innate. Most of us had different races in our kindergarten. Few of us noticed.

Race has to be pointed out, as every schoolboy knows.


the only group who seem fixated on skin color now, who "seem to be noticing" are the woke left.

they are the ones who keep picking at the scab

they are the true racists
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Reply #86 - May 19th, 2022 at 5:21am
 
Mattyfisk wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 10:54pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 8:28pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 8:19pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 7:21pm:
John Smith wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 7:15pm:
aquascoot wrote on May 16th, 2022 at 8:41pm:
i am not well disposed towards people who are ungrateful, who whine and sook and complain and want to remain perpetual infants
e




you must hate yourself. During the Rudd / Gillard govt. there wasn't a single day you didn't whine, sook and complain



incorrect.

i wasnt even on this site then and i spent my days running my business and being awesome.

dont ever focus on something you dislike .
it will give you an emotional state crash.




Chodes. Lives of pure garbage. You might not be sure if you're racist, but you do love to hate chodes.

It gets the blood going, no?



incorrect.

you should bounce out of bed with a plan.
that plan should  be to construct a personal ecosystem of positivity.


when you see a toxic entity that will harm other people, you dont hate it, you just issue a warning to others not to go near it as its harmful


if i see  a brown snake, i have a duty to mentor others to stay away.
that creature is harmful

if i see a chode (all self pity and toxic negativity, feeling sorry for himself, stuck in a chode purgatory of self pleasure and sugar and porn and whining and complaining and entitlement) i have a duty to mentor others to stay away.
that creature is harmful

we dont hate the chode
we avoid and see him as a cautionary tale

success is rare
difficult to achieve and hard to sustain
failure is the norm
garbage is the default.

thats why its a narrow road to success.
its almost deserted  Tongue Tongue Tongue


One may, from time to time, see a brown snake, it is so.

But it helps to focus and look clearly. One may see a stick. It has happened to us all at one time or another, no?

Now what should we do if we see a stick? The chode cringes, screaming about brown snakes or being hit with sticks or whatever, and runs off flapping away. The Boong sees an idea for an invention - a musical instrument perhaps, or a weapon to spear the chode, who might make a good meal - or a good lay, depending.

The Superior Man sees all and says ah. Are you a little bit racist? That's okay, just confess it and move on. We won't mind.

Sure, it means anything you have to say about the tinted races in future is based on your pathological racist mindset, which you've acknowledged, but that's okay. We won't hold it against you.

At least you're out of the closet, no?


incorrect.

the superior man doesnt care about the colour of a snakes skin.
he doesnt lump all snakes in as one group (the lefts notion of identity politics).
the superior man treats every snake as an individual.
the carpet snake which is in sync with the farmer is welcome to stay in his barn and eat rodents.
he loves this snake based , not on its group identity but on its individual behaviour.
the brown snake who would kill his kelpies, kill his chickens is not welcome in his ecosystem
the brown snake is full of venom and toxic negativity and destructive forces.
it is like the leftie activist from anti-fa, burning down society.
it is to be eliminated , not celebrated
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the superior man doesnt care about the colour of a snakes skin.
he doesnt lump all snakes in as one group (the lefts notion of identity politics).
the superior man treats every snake as an individual.

The superior man from where? From what cultural / religious / ethnic background?

Not every cultural-religious-ethnic milieu places as much emphasis on the individual as ours.
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Reply #88 - May 19th, 2022 at 8:40am
 
Mattyfisk wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 11:28pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 10:04pm:
Gordon wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 9:41pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 9:27pm:
Gordon wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 8:51pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 7:14pm:
Gordon wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 6:46pm:
Is Islam a race?

Islamism is religio-cutural based.

To conflate everything into 'race' is an Americanism.


So it's just a set of ideas, therefore, thinking it's a big load of schite can't be racist.
Coolies.

If you're not predisposed to ideas beyond your cultural, religious or ethnic milieu, or those that challenge your disposition, thinking it's a big load of shite is a likely outcome.


Plenty of people are accepting of one culture different to their own then called a racist or bigot for thinking another (or parts of) is a load of crap.

It is a common mistake made by citizens of distinct cultures (and in particular young and isolated cultures) for the population to presume that all people think like them, they like others, and that their values are universal.

Hence the apoplexy felt when they are disabused of that presumption.

It's not 'racism' to feel one's ethnic, religious, or cultural milieu is superior to all others - it's innate.


Actually, that's the very essence of racism, Meister. Thanks for providing a definition.

It's hardly innate. Most of us had different races in our kindergarten. Few of us noticed.

Race has to be pointed out, as every schoolboy knows.

It is the genesis of ethno-chauvinism, which we all express to varying degrees. We all believe our ethnic, religious, or cultural milieu is superior to all others - When we're taught otherwise it triggers a deep self-resentment?

The identifying of our ingroup and outgroup is innate. The predisposition towards learning from our ingroup leaders (parents / relatives) to recognise ingroup and discriminate outgroup is innate.

Did we all go home from kindergarten and mingle in each other's cultures? Did the white Christo-centric kids learn to practise Islam / Hinduism alongside their Islamic / Indian classmates? Did we learn to speak their languages fluently? Did we abide by their cultural sensitivities?

Or did we go home to be immersed in our own distinct ethnic, religious, cultural environment?
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^^^^ That probably explains why I love Australia and Australians above all other races.

And why during the Olympic Games I cry a bit when I see our flag go up because one of Australia's sons/daughters has won a medal.

And why during Anzac Day I cry a bit when I hear those Anzac songs.


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Reply #90 - May 19th, 2022 at 10:18am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 8:29am:
aquascoot wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 5:21am:
the superior man doesnt care about the colour of a snakes skin.
he doesnt lump all snakes in as one group (the lefts notion of identity politics).
the superior man treats every snake as an individual.

The superior man from where? From what cultural / religious / ethnic background?

Not every cultural-religious-ethnic milieu places as much emphasis on the individual as ours.



The superior man always analyses behaviours at the level of the individual

This is the very essence of personal responsibility
Self reliance and owning the trajectory of your life
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Has there ever been a society bordering another with distinct religious, ethnic and cultural differences which has not found itself in conflict with its neighbour - from local skirmishes through to complete war?
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Reply #92 - May 19th, 2022 at 10:22am
 
aquascoot wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 10:18am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 8:29am:
aquascoot wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 5:21am:
the superior man doesnt care about the colour of a snakes skin.
he doesnt lump all snakes in as one group (the lefts notion of identity politics).
the superior man treats every snake as an individual.

The superior man from where? From what cultural / religious / ethnic background?

Not every cultural-religious-ethnic milieu places as much emphasis on the individual as ours.



The superior man always analyses behaviours at the level of the individual



And the superior WOman always analyses AND CORRECTS the behaviours of the superior man at the level of that individual.
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Reply #93 - May 19th, 2022 at 10:24am
 
aquascoot wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 10:18am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 8:29am:
aquascoot wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 5:21am:
the superior man doesnt care about the colour of a snakes skin.
he doesnt lump all snakes in as one group (the lefts notion of identity politics).
the superior man treats every snake as an individual.

The superior man from where? From what cultural / religious / ethnic background?

Not every cultural-religious-ethnic milieu places as much emphasis on the individual as ours.



The superior man always analyses behaviours at the level of the individual

This is the very essence of personal responsibility
Self reliance and owning the trajectory of your life

And he analyses behaviours through his own culture's ethnic/cultural/religious filters.
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Reply #94 - May 19th, 2022 at 10:35am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 10:24am:
aquascoot wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 10:18am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 8:29am:
aquascoot wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 5:21am:
the superior man doesnt care about the colour of a snakes skin.
he doesnt lump all snakes in as one group (the lefts notion of identity politics).
the superior man treats every snake as an individual.

The superior man from where? From what cultural / religious / ethnic background?

Not every cultural-religious-ethnic milieu places as much emphasis on the individual as ours.



The superior man always analyses behaviours at the level of the individual

This is the very essence of personal responsibility
Self reliance and owning the trajectory of your life

And he analyses behaviours through his own culture's ethnic/cultural/religious filters.



You are the subject of your subtle and subconscious influences.
But again that is all about the personal ecosystem you wish to construct

If you don't watch the mainstream media
If you decide never to eat at a fast food joint
If you follow a career path down a rabbit hole of meaning and fulfilment
If you spend your free time at the gym listening to podcasts from
People.who.you find engaging

Then your own culture
Ethnic and religious influences are having zero effect on you

You don't have to live in Australia
In the world of global connectivity you can live in a country that exists in the iCloud
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Reply #95 - May 19th, 2022 at 10:40am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 10:22am:
aquascoot wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 10:18am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 8:29am:
aquascoot wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 5:21am:
the superior man doesnt care about the colour of a snakes skin.
he doesnt lump all snakes in as one group (the lefts notion of identity politics).
the superior man treats every snake as an individual.

The superior man from where? From what cultural / religious / ethnic background?

Not every cultural-religious-ethnic milieu places as much emphasis on the individual as ours.



The superior man always analyses behaviours at the level of the individual



And the superior WOman always analyses AND CORRECTS the behaviours of the superior man at the level of that individual.



I don't think the superior woman really corrects the superior man
Getting back to basics the superior man should always be following his own North Star
Now the superior woman understands that getting in a win-win mutually supportive relationship with the superior man is definitely part of her narrow road to success

It's always fascinated me that so many women putz shame and put down their partners
The superior woman would never do this
She understands that by nurturing and building up
Her partner
He is going to venture forth into the world and absolutely crush it at work financially
Socially
I think it is almost impossible for a man to be crushing it in society without the nurturing and support of a good woman
And look at the benefit that accrues to her by exhibiting such mutual support

This is the essence of what Stephen Covey describes as constructing a win-win
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Reply #96 - May 19th, 2022 at 10:52am
 
aquascoot wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 10:35am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 10:24am:
aquascoot wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 10:18am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 8:29am:
aquascoot wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 5:21am:
the superior man doesnt care about the colour of a snakes skin.
he doesnt lump all snakes in as one group (the lefts notion of identity politics).
the superior man treats every snake as an individual.

The superior man from where? From what cultural / religious / ethnic background?

Not every cultural-religious-ethnic milieu places as much emphasis on the individual as ours.



The superior man always analyses behaviours at the level of the individual

This is the very essence of personal responsibility
Self reliance and owning the trajectory of your life

And he analyses behaviours through his own culture's ethnic/cultural/religious filters.



You are the subject of your subtle and subconscious influences.
But again that is all about the personal ecosystem you wish to construct

If you don't watch the mainstream media
If you decide never to eat at a fast food joint
If you follow a career path down a rabbit hole of meaning and fulfilment
If you spend your free time at the gym listening to podcasts from
People.who.you find engaging

Then your own culture
Ethnic and religious influences are having zero effect on you

You don't have to live in Australia
In the world of global connectivity you can live in a country that exists in the iCloud

You cannot construct your own ecosystem without the influence of your community's ethnic, cultural, religious mores.

What language would you speak in your solipsistic world? Ask anyone who is multilingual. They will tell you that they think differently in their 2nd/3rd languages.
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but you can deconstruct and reconstruct

do you disagree with the basic premise that most people

follow the path of least resistance
generally feel tired and scared and seek out stimulation and distraction to quell their fear
are stuck in the cultural hypnosis.

thats most people.

but we live in a free society
if, when you reach adult hood, you decide you are going to manipulate your influences , there is nothing to stop you doing it.

most people eat processed foods...but you dont have to let that in your personal ecosystem
most people buy into the mainstream narrative that you get rich by taking but you dont have to let that idea take root
most people are stuck in the cultural narrative of worrying about what they get but you can worry about "what you become"
it would seem to be possible to have your own boundaries and then let in whatever influences you like.

if you want to sit at a computer and let ISIS radicalise you, thats not your societies culture , ethnic or religious influences.

if you want to go on a hike and read marcus aurelius, thats on you.


big tech, big finance, big government find it easier to have everyone just be a cog in the mattrix.
you dont have to
its just easier to
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Reply #98 - May 19th, 2022 at 12:05pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 10:40am:
Lisa Jones wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 10:22am:
aquascoot wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 10:18am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 8:29am:
aquascoot wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 5:21am:
the superior man doesnt care about the colour of a snakes skin.
he doesnt lump all snakes in as one group (the lefts notion of identity politics).
the superior man treats every snake as an individual.

The superior man from where? From what cultural / religious / ethnic background?

Not every cultural-religious-ethnic milieu places as much emphasis on the individual as ours.



The superior man always analyses behaviours at the level of the individual



And the superior WOman always analyses AND CORRECTS the behaviours of the superior man at the level of that individual.



I don't think the superior woman really corrects the superior man
Getting back to basics the superior man should always be following his own North Star
Now the superior woman understands that getting in a win-win mutually supportive relationship with the superior man is definitely part of her narrow road to success

It's always fascinated me that so many women putz shame and put down their partners
The superior woman would never do this
She understands that by nurturing and building up
Her partner
He is going to venture forth into the world and absolutely crush it at work financially
Socially
I think it is almost impossible for a man to be crushing it in society without the nurturing and support of a good woman
And look at the benefit that accrues to her by exhibiting such mutual support

This is the essence of what Stephen Covey describes as constructing a win-win


You are a man and you keep quoting another man....in order to understand a woman.

At what stage does a woman's voice/viewpoint become visible in all this?

The other issue I have is this: where does cultural context fit into this analysis? Some cultures to this day have a matriarchal element.
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Reply #99 - May 19th, 2022 at 12:21pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 12:02pm:
but you can deconstruct and reconstruct

do you disagree with the basic premise that most people

follow the path of least resistance
generally feel tired and scared and seek out stimulation and distraction to quell their fear
are stuck in the cultural hypnosis.

thats most people.

but we live in a free society
if, when you reach adult hood, you decide you are going to manipulate your influences , there is nothing to stop you doing it.

most people eat processed foods...but you dont have to let that in your personal ecosystem
most people buy into the mainstream narrative that you get rich by taking but you dont have to let that idea take root
most people are stuck in the cultural narrative of worrying about what they get but you can worry about "what you become"
it would seem to be possible to have your own boundaries and then let in whatever influences you like.

if you want to sit at a computer and let ISIS radicalise you, thats not your societies culture , ethnic or religious influences.

if you want to go on a hike and read marcus aurelius, thats on you.


big tech, big finance, big government find it easier to have everyone just be a cog in the mattrix.
you dont have to
its just easier to

People do not deconstruct / reconstruct their cultural milieu.

Most people do not have the luxury of getting bored and seeking out time-wasting distractions.

Most people do not eat processed food.

Most people in the world do not live in a free society.

The vast majority live outside the anglosphere.

All you have told me is that you are someone living within the anglosphere who has inherited the expectations and presumptions of that culture.
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I beg to differ.
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Lisa Jones wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 12:26pm:
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I beg to differ.

What is the population of rural India, Africa, south America and Asia combined?
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You might actually find, MeisterEckhart, that Africans, Chinese and some parts of South America are also developing an obesity issue within their regions. I mean, I have seen tourism videos of Nairobi, Kenya. The general population there seem to be healthy weight range or overweight. You can look at places like Eritrea and Yemen where malnutrition is rife. But, in general, people around the world are either fed or well fed. Having access to processed foods is not just a Western and United States issue anymore.
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Lisa Jones wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 12:26pm:
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Most people do not eat processed food.


I beg to differ.

What is the population of rural India, Africa, south America and Asia combined?


What's your definition of processed food?
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UnSubRocky wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 1:05pm:
You might actually find, MeisterEckhart, that Africans, Chinese and some parts of South America are also developing an obesity issue within their regions. I mean, I have seen tourism videos of Nairobi, Kenya. The general population there seem to be healthy weight range or overweight. You can look at places like Eritrea and Yemen where malnutrition is rife. But, in general, people around the world are either fed or well fed. Having access to processed foods is not just a Western and United States issue anymore.


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I don't think we really understand what processed food actually means these days.

Buying fresh fruit and vegetables from a supermarket is PROCESSED!

Buying any form of raw meat from a supermarket is PROCESSED!

Make no mistake ....chemicals are introduced during PROCESSING in order to make the above foods last longer (to account for time lost because of transport, being stacked on shelves etc).


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Reply #105 - May 19th, 2022 at 1:27pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 5:16am:
Mattyfisk wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 11:28pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 10:04pm:
Gordon wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 9:41pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 9:27pm:
Gordon wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 8:51pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 7:14pm:
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Is Islam a race?

Islamism is religio-cutural based.

To conflate everything into 'race' is an Americanism.


So it's just a set of ideas, therefore, thinking it's a big load of schite can't be racist.
Coolies.

If you're not predisposed to ideas beyond your cultural, religious or ethnic milieu, or those that challenge your disposition, thinking it's a big load of shite is a likely outcome.


Plenty of people are accepting of one culture different to their own then called a racist or bigot for thinking another (or parts of) is a load of crap.

It is a common mistake made by citizens of distinct cultures (and in particular young and isolated cultures) for the population to presume that all people think like them, they like others, and that their values are universal.

Hence the apoplexy felt when they are disabused of that presumption.

It's not 'racism' to feel one's ethnic, religious, or cultural milieu is superior to all others - it's innate.


Actually, that's the very essence of racism, Meister. Thanks for providing a definition.

It's hardly innate. Most of us had different races in our kindergarten. Few of us noticed.

Race has to be pointed out, as every schoolboy knows.


the only group who seem fixated on skin color now, who "seem to be noticing" are the woke left.

they are the ones who keep picking at the scab

they are the true racists


Oh? You seem to have missed your Dear Leader's opening speech, dear.

Do you think he noticed Mexicans?

How about you?
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aquascoot wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 5:21am:
the superior man doesnt care about the colour of a snakes skin.
he doesnt lump all snakes in as one group (the lefts notion of identity politics).
the superior man treats every snake as an individual.

The superior man from where? From what cultural / religious / ethnic background?



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As I understand, processed foods are created foods. Cereals, milk, microwavable meals, etc. Whatever foods have to be 'processed' from one state into another is considered "processed foods". Fruit and vegetables are generally not processed foods. Unless they have gone through getting cut up and packaged or altered in some way, fruits and vegetables are not processed foods.

There are a lot of places around the world where people grow their own foods. If you milk the cows, make the butter, grow the vegetables, and slaughter the animals for meat (or have access to people who do this), you are getting farm-fresh foods. But, for most people in the world, people would be eating processed foods as a considerable part of their diet.
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MeisterEckhart wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 8:40am:
Mattyfisk wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 11:28pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 10:04pm:
Gordon wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 9:41pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 9:27pm:
Gordon wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 8:51pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 7:14pm:
Gordon wrote on May 18th, 2022 at 6:46pm:
Is Islam a race?

Islamism is religio-cutural based.

To conflate everything into 'race' is an Americanism.


So it's just a set of ideas, therefore, thinking it's a big load of schite can't be racist.
Coolies.

If you're not predisposed to ideas beyond your cultural, religious or ethnic milieu, or those that challenge your disposition, thinking it's a big load of shite is a likely outcome.


Plenty of people are accepting of one culture different to their own then called a racist or bigot for thinking another (or parts of) is a load of crap.

It is a common mistake made by citizens of distinct cultures (and in particular young and isolated cultures) for the population to presume that all people think like them, they like others, and that their values are universal.

Hence the apoplexy felt when they are disabused of that presumption.

It's not 'racism' to feel one's ethnic, religious, or cultural milieu is superior to all others - it's innate.


Actually, that's the very essence of racism, Meister. Thanks for providing a definition.

It's hardly innate. Most of us had different races in our kindergarten. Few of us noticed.

Race has to be pointed out, as every schoolboy knows.

It is the genesis of ethno-chauvinism, which we all express to varying degrees. We all believe our ethnic, religious, or cultural milieu is superior to all others - When we're taught otherwise it triggers a deep self-resentment?

The identifying of our ingroup and outgroup is innate. The predisposition towards learning from our ingroup leaders (parents / relatives) to recognise ingroup and discriminate outgroup is innate.

Did we all go home from kindergarten and mingle in each other's cultures? Did the white Christo-centric kids learn to practise Islam / Hinduism alongside their Islamic / Indian classmates? Did we learn to speak their languages fluently? Did we abide by their cultural sensitivities?

Or did we go home to be immersed in our own distinct ethnic, religious, cultural environment?


Of course we did. I went to Jewish parties when I was a kid, Islander barbecues, a Dutch Christmas. I never assumed I was OUT of any in-group.

You're equating race with ethnology. In a multicultural society like ours you have kids practising the same consumer culture and speaking the same language - Aussie accents - and coming from different races. You have mixed parents and in-laws. There's no innate superiority. In and out groups are a social construct.

Look at any kids' sporting team and you'll see a handful of races, all talking and acting pretty much the same. Kids DO assimilate. They learn to fit in. This thread is about race, not religion or culture.

And no, different cultures do not innately uphold or compete for superiority. I don't think Anglo Saxon culture is any better than Javanese or Gujarati culture, that would be ludicrous, but it's what the I'm-not-racist set practice here daily.

The Anglo Saxon race is not superior because Mother ruled the waves, nor is the Dutch or Portuguese race. Nor, before them, were the Ottoman or Han races, and on and on. And Americans are no more superior now because they're not even a race - that's the whole point of the American Constitution. All are equal under God.

America's founding fathers didn't invent this idea, they implemented it.

Racism is taught, not innate. Racists are just unhappy with themselves, dear. That's got nothing to do with race.
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As I understand, processed foods are created foods. Cereals, milk, microwavable meals, etc. Whatever foods have to be 'processed' from one state into another is considered "processed foods". Fruit and vegetables are generally not processed foods. Unless they have gone through getting cut up and packaged or altered in some way, fruits and vegetables are not processed foods.

There are a lot of places around the world where people grow their own foods. If you milk the cows, make the butter, grow the vegetables, and slaughter the animals for meat (or have access to people who do this), you are getting farm-fresh foods. But, for most people in the world, people would be eating processed foods as a considerable part of their diet.


Food is not a race, no?
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Reply #110 - May 19th, 2022 at 5:12pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 1:50pm:
Of course we did. I went to Jewish parties when I was a kid, Islander barbecues, a Dutch Christmas. I never assumed I was OUT of any in-group.

You're equating race with ethnology. In a multicultural society like ours you have kids practising the same consumer culture and speaking the same language - Aussie accents - and coming from different races. You have mixed parents and in-laws. There's no innate superiority. In and out groups are a social construct.

Look at any kids' sporting team and you'll see a handful of races, all talking and acting pretty much the same. Kids DO assimilate. They learn to fit in. This thread is about race, not religion or culture.

And no, different cultures do not innately uphold or compete for superiority. I don't think Anglo Saxon culture is any better than Javanese or Gujarati culture, that would be ludicrous, but it's what the I'm-not-racist set practice here daily.

The Anglo Saxon race is not superior because Mother ruled the waves, nor is the Dutch or Portuguese race. Nor, before them, were the Ottoman or Han races, and on and on. And Americans are no more superior now because they're not even a race - that's the whole point of the American Constitution. All are equal under God.

America's founding fathers didn't invent this idea, they implemented it.

Racism is taught, not innate. Racists are just unhappy with themselves, dear. That's got nothing to do with race.

And what is race? Is it colour of skin? Not in Africa, where the line is drawn at tribe; as African-Americans, who emigrate to Africa quickly find out. Not in India where ethnic Indians do discriminate on the basis of colour (dark being bad, fair being good), but they don't call it racism.

Europeans in Europe do not consider themselves separate races, even if they discriminate among themselves based on national culture.

Ethno-chauvinism (where the word is coopted to include ethnicity, culture and religion), is a far more accurate term that can include colour as a feature of one's ethnicity, but it is not necessary.

Arab Muslims and Sephardic Jews are Semitic peoples - skin colour is not a feature of their animosity towards each other.

Indian Muslims and Hindus are ethnically identical - religion being where the line is drawn.

Polynesians are ethnically identical, yet tribal animosities persist over centuries.

Melanesian and Polynesian animosity is not fueled by colour of skin. The same for native Americans.

Race (i.e. black and white) being the alpha and the omega of all things divisive is an American infection; Americans being incapable of perceiving the complexities of a world outside the United States.

And ingroup / outgroup identification is innate and its manifestation is inevitable. There has never been a society that does not recognise, identify and label them.
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Reply #111 - May 19th, 2022 at 5:16pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 5:12pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 1:50pm:
Of course we did. I went to Jewish parties when I was a kid, Islander barbecues, a Dutch Christmas. I never assumed I was OUT of any in-group.

You're equating race with ethnology. In a multicultural society like ours you have kids practising the same consumer culture and speaking the same language - Aussie accents - and coming from different races. You have mixed parents and in-laws. There's no innate superiority. In and out groups are a social construct.

Look at any kids' sporting team and you'll see a handful of races, all talking and acting pretty much the same. Kids DO assimilate. They learn to fit in. This thread is about race, not religion or culture.

And no, different cultures do not innately uphold or compete for superiority. I don't think Anglo Saxon culture is any better than Javanese or Gujarati culture, that would be ludicrous, but it's what the I'm-not-racist set practice here daily.

The Anglo Saxon race is not superior because Mother ruled the waves, nor is the Dutch or Portuguese race. Nor, before them, were the Ottoman or Han races, and on and on. And Americans are no more superior now because they're not even a race - that's the whole point of the American Constitution. All are equal under God.

America's founding fathers didn't invent this idea, they implemented it.

Racism is taught, not innate. Racists are just unhappy with themselves, dear. That's got nothing to do with race.

And what is race? Is it colour of skin? Not in Africa, where the line is drawn at tribe; as African-Americans, who emigrate to Africa quickly find out. Not in India where ethnic Indians do discriminate on the basis of colour (dark being bad, fair being good), but they don't call it racism.

Europeans in Europe do not consider themselves separate races, even if they discriminate among themselves based on national culture.

Ethno-chauvinism (where the word is coopted to include ethnicity, culture and religion), is a far more accurate term that can include colour as a feature of one's ethnicity, but it is not necessary.

Arab Muslims and Sephardic Jews are Semitic peoples - skin colour is not a feature of their animosity towards each other.

Indian Muslims and Hindus are ethnically identical - religion being where the line is drawn.

Polynesians are ethnically identical, yet tribal animosities persist over centuries.

Melanesian and Polynesian animosity is not fueled by colour of skin.

Race (i.e. black and white) being the alpha and the omega of all things divisive is an American infection; Americans being incapable of perceiving the complexities of a world outside the United States.

And ingroup / outgroup identification is innate and its manifestation is inevitable. There has never been a society that does not recognise, identify and label them.



very good post but thats still dividing people on the basis of tribalism and group identity,
thats the toxic nature of the lefts identity politics.
the only way to classify people is at the level of the individual.
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Reply #112 - May 19th, 2022 at 5:23pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 5:16pm:
very good post but thats still dividing people on the basis of tribalism and group identity,
thats the toxic nature of the lefts identity politics.
the only way to classify people is at the level of the individual.

Ingroup / outgroup identity is not a political thing; it is a matter of primal human instinct - identifiable in all primates including humans.

That is why no society has ever existed where ingroup / outgroup identification is not a feature.

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Reply #113 - May 19th, 2022 at 5:24pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 1:51pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 1:30pm:
As I understand, processed foods are created foods. Cereals, milk, microwavable meals, etc. Whatever foods have to be 'processed' from one state into another is considered "processed foods". Fruit and vegetables are generally not processed foods. Unless they have gone through getting cut up and packaged or altered in some way, fruits and vegetables are not processed foods.

There are a lot of places around the world where people grow their own foods. If you milk the cows, make the butter, grow the vegetables, and slaughter the animals for meat (or have access to people who do this), you are getting farm-fresh foods. But, for most people in the world, people would be eating processed foods as a considerable part of their diet.


Food is not a race, no?


I think we were side-tracked on a technicality issue.
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Reply #114 - May 19th, 2022 at 7:12pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 5:12pm:
And what is race? Is it colour of skin? Not in Africa, where the line is drawn at tribe; as African-Americans, who emigrate to Africa quickly find out. Not in India where ethnic Indians do discriminate on the basis of colour (dark being bad, fair being good), but they don't call it racism.

Europeans in Europe do not consider themselves separate races, even if they discriminate among themselves based on national culture.

Ethno-chauvinism (where the word is coopted to include ethnicity, culture and religion), is a far more accurate term that can include colour as a feature of one's ethnicity, but it is not necessary.

Arab Muslims and Sephardic Jews are Semitic peoples - skin colour is not a feature of their animosity towards each other.

Indian Muslims and Hindus are ethnically identical - religion being where the line is drawn.

Polynesians are ethnically identical, yet tribal animosities persist over centuries.

Melanesian and Polynesian animosity is not fueled by colour of skin. The same for native Americans.

Race (i.e. black and white) being the alpha and the omega of all things divisive is an American infection; Americans being incapable of perceiving the complexities of a world outside the United States.

And ingroup / outgroup identification is innate and its manifestation is inevitable. There has never been a society that does not recognise, identify and label them.


Just so. European rivalry, inter-tribal conflict and even certain forms of religious bigotry are not necessarily racism. The problems you're having identifying race demonstrates that racism is learned, not innate.

There's nothing wrong with identifying or discussing race and ethnicity. It's reasonable to make judgments about people based on nationality - we do it all the time. We enjoy travelling, for instance, because we get to meet different people and learn how they do things. There's always weighing up and judging involved when we assess our preferences and experiences. That's not racism.

Racism is the belief that you're superior to others based on your race, ethnicity and/or religion - normally all three as a package. The I'm-not-racists take this a step further and advocate racist isolation - ban them, send them back, we don't want them here. They're also quite willing to subjugate those they believe they're superior to, based on their race - invade them, carpetbomb them, colonialism ended far too soon.

We have quite a few of these types on our board - I'm quoting them. Their social and political views are dominated by hate. Their belief in exclusion and domination drives their world view and gets them into all sorts of problems. Those of us who've been here a while have heard it all. It's okay to hate the Muselman, they say. We're not racist - Islam is not a race, it's a religion.

After September 11, the not-racists got all cranky about the swarthy races - sorry, religions - coming to get us, so they ranted on until the US invaded Iraq. Finally, they said, watching all the missiles and ships and flags flying. They seemed almost happy for a while. It didn't matter that Iraq was next door to Saudi Arabia, the country that sponsored the terrorists, the not-racists just wanted to get the Muselman. It seems like almost yesterday.

Anyway, they got bored with that after a while and then Iraq went bad. More terrorists did even worse things and the not-racists said, you see? Told you. We need to get out.

No, we said, we told you. We warned you this would happen. So? They said. We can still ban the Muselman, we just won't invade him anymore. How are you going to ban a religion? We asked. Freedom of religion's in the constitution. They ignored that and moved onto Mexicans (true). They're breeding like flies, they said, we need to ban them. But we don't get Mexicans in Australia, we said. Doesn't matter, they said, send them back, we don't want them here.

Then it was blacks - actually, it's always been blacks. But our blacks are Aborigines, we said, where are you going to send them? The conversation might have moved onto killing, I can't remember. I'm not sure if they were joking when they said they should be sent back to the Dreamtime.

This is a rather polite version of our discussions over the years, but much of it's verbatim. The not-racists just react. They don't think, reflect or say ah. If you do this, you're one of them. I'm supposed to be a Pakistani - worse, a Pakistani bugger, a sort of swarthy, devious villain who lurks in the shadows and is quick with a blade - definitely not the sort of person you'd want your sister bringing home. I am, of course, an awful racist because I hate the white race so much.

Clash of civilisations, innit.
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Reply #115 - May 19th, 2022 at 7:23pm
 
aquascoot wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 5:16pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 5:12pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 1:50pm:
Of course we did. I went to Jewish parties when I was a kid, Islander barbecues, a Dutch Christmas. I never assumed I was OUT of any in-group.

You're equating race with ethnology. In a multicultural society like ours you have kids practising the same consumer culture and speaking the same language - Aussie accents - and coming from different races. You have mixed parents and in-laws. There's no innate superiority. In and out groups are a social construct.

Look at any kids' sporting team and you'll see a handful of races, all talking and acting pretty much the same. Kids DO assimilate. They learn to fit in. This thread is about race, not religion or culture.

And no, different cultures do not innately uphold or compete for superiority. I don't think Anglo Saxon culture is any better than Javanese or Gujarati culture, that would be ludicrous, but it's what the I'm-not-racist set practice here daily.

The Anglo Saxon race is not superior because Mother ruled the waves, nor is the Dutch or Portuguese race. Nor, before them, were the Ottoman or Han races, and on and on. And Americans are no more superior now because they're not even a race - that's the whole point of the American Constitution. All are equal under God.

America's founding fathers didn't invent this idea, they implemented it.

Racism is taught, not innate. Racists are just unhappy with themselves, dear. That's got nothing to do with race.

And what is race? Is it colour of skin? Not in Africa, where the line is drawn at tribe; as African-Americans, who emigrate to Africa quickly find out. Not in India where ethnic Indians do discriminate on the basis of colour (dark being bad, fair being good), but they don't call it racism.

Europeans in Europe do not consider themselves separate races, even if they discriminate among themselves based on national culture.

Ethno-chauvinism (where the word is coopted to include ethnicity, culture and religion), is a far more accurate term that can include colour as a feature of one's ethnicity, but it is not necessary.

Arab Muslims and Sephardic Jews are Semitic peoples - skin colour is not a feature of their animosity towards each other.

Indian Muslims and Hindus are ethnically identical - religion being where the line is drawn.

Polynesians are ethnically identical, yet tribal animosities persist over centuries.

Melanesian and Polynesian animosity is not fueled by colour of skin.

Race (i.e. black and white) being the alpha and the omega of all things divisive is an American infection; Americans being incapable of perceiving the complexities of a world outside the United States.

And ingroup / outgroup identification is innate and its manifestation is inevitable. There has never been a society that does not recognise, identify and label them.



very good post but thats still dividing people on the basis of tribalism and group identity,
thats the toxic nature of the lefts identity politics.



That is, in a nutshell, your entire crusade: identity politics. You can turn the most mundane topic into a rant about chodes sponging off your virtuous hard work and the lefties sucking us dry. Do you know what you are, dear?

An ideologue. I mean this in the nicest possible way, but do you know?

I don't think you're a racist.
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Reply #116 - May 19th, 2022 at 7:56pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 7:12pm:
Just so. European rivalry, inter-tribal conflict and even certain forms of religious bigotry are not necessarily racism. The problems you're having identifying race demonstrates that racism is learned, not innate.

Racism is the belief that you're superior to others based on your race, ethnicity and/or religion - normally all three as a package. The I'm-not-racists take this a step further and advocate racist isolation - ban them, send them back, we don't want them here. They're also quite willing to subjugate those they believe they're superior to, based on their race - invade them, carpetbomb them, colonialism ended far too soon.

That's the problem with the term race: it's meaningless but has been coopted to exclusively mean discrimination based on skin colour.

Its exclusivity means every other form of discrimination gets a get-out-of-jail-free card, because the discrimination is not based on skin color - so, not-racist.

Ethno-chauvinism better defines those who would discriminate based on ethnicity, culture, religion as well as skin colour.

And it is pervasive. You will find it manifesting in every society.
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Reply #117 - May 19th, 2022 at 8:30pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 7:56pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 7:12pm:
Just so. European rivalry, inter-tribal conflict and even certain forms of religious bigotry are not necessarily racism. The problems you're having identifying race demonstrates that racism is learned, not innate.

Racism is the belief that you're superior to others based on your race, ethnicity and/or religion - normally all three as a package. The I'm-not-racists take this a step further and advocate racist isolation - ban them, send them back, we don't want them here. They're also quite willing to subjugate those they believe they're superior to, based on their race - invade them, carpetbomb them, colonialism ended far too soon.

That's the problem with the term race: it's meaningless but has been coopted to exclusively mean discrimination based on skin colour.

Its exclusivity means every other form of discrimination gets a get-out-of-jail-free card, because the discrimination is not based on skin color - so, not-racist.

Ethno-chauvinism better defines those who would discriminate based on ethnicity, culture, religion as well as skin colour.

And it is pervasive. You will find it manifesting in every society.


It sounds like Karnal is channeling Michel Foucault.
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Reply #118 - May 19th, 2022 at 8:45pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 7:12pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 5:12pm:
And what is race? Is it colour of skin? Not in Africa, where the line is drawn at tribe; as African-Americans, who emigrate to Africa quickly find out. Not in India where ethnic Indians do discriminate on the basis of colour (dark being bad, fair being good), but they don't call it racism.

Europeans in Europe do not consider themselves separate races, even if they discriminate among themselves based on national culture.

Ethno-chauvinism (where the word is coopted to include ethnicity, culture and religion), is a far more accurate term that can include colour as a feature of one's ethnicity, but it is not necessary.

Arab Muslims and Sephardic Jews are Semitic peoples - skin colour is not a feature of their animosity towards each other.

Indian Muslims and Hindus are ethnically identical - religion being where the line is drawn.

Polynesians are ethnically identical, yet tribal animosities persist over centuries.

Melanesian and Polynesian animosity is not fueled by colour of skin. The same for native Americans.

Race (i.e. black and white) being the alpha and the omega of all things divisive is an American infection; Americans being incapable of perceiving the complexities of a world outside the United States.

And ingroup / outgroup identification is innate and its manifestation is inevitable. There has never been a society that does not recognise, identify and label them.


Just so. European rivalry, inter-tribal conflict and even certain forms of religious bigotry are not necessarily racism. The problems you're having identifying race demonstrates that racism is learned, not innate.

There's nothing wrong with identifying or discussing race and ethnicity. It's reasonable to make judgments about people based on nationality - we do it all the time. We enjoy travelling, for instance, because we get to meet different people and learn how they do things. There's always weighing up and judging involved when we assess our preferences and experiences. That's not racism.

Racism is the belief that you're superior to others based on your race, ethnicity and/or religion - normally all three as a package. The I'm-not-racists take this a step further and advocate racist isolation - ban them, send them back, we don't want them here. They're also quite willing to subjugate those they believe they're superior to, based on their race - invade them, carpetbomb them, colonialism ended far too soon.

We have quite a few of these types on our board - I'm quoting them. Their social and political views are dominated by hate. Their belief in exclusion and domination drives their world view and gets them into all sorts of problems. Those of us who've been here a while have heard it all. It's okay to hate the Muselman, they say. We're not racist - Islam is not a race, it's a religion.

After September 11, the not-racists got all cranky about the swarthy races - sorry, religions - coming to get us, so they ranted on until the US invaded Iraq. Finally, they said, watching all the missiles and ships and flags flying. They seemed almost happy for a while. It didn't matter that Iraq was next door to Saudi Arabia, the country that sponsored the terrorists, the not-racists just wanted to get the Muselman. It seems like almost yesterday.

Anyway, they got bored with that after a while and then Iraq went bad. More terrorists did even worse things and the not-racists said, you see? Told you. We need to get out.

No, we said, we told you. We warned you this would happen. So? They said. We can still ban the Muselman, we just won't invade him anymore. How are you going to ban a religion? We asked. Freedom of religion's in the constitution. They ignored that and moved onto Mexicans (true). They're breeding like flies, they said, we need to ban them. But we don't get Mexicans in Australia, we said. Doesn't matter, they said, send them back, we don't want them here.

Then it was blacks - actually, it's always been blacks. But our blacks are Aborigines, we said, where are you going to send them? The conversation might have moved onto killing, I can't remember. I'm not sure if they were joking when they said they should be sent back to the Dreamtime.

This is a rather polite version of our discussions over the years, but much of it's verbatim. The not-racists just react. They don't think, reflect or say ah. If you do this, you're one of them. I'm supposed to be a Pakistani - worse, a Pakistani bugger, a sort of swarthy, devious villain who lurks in the shadows and is quick with a blade - definitely not the sort of person you'd want your sister bringing home. I am, of course, an awful racist because I hate the white race so much.

Clash of civilisations, innit.


Interesting how you forgot to mention the racism perpetrated by you and your ilk ... against the Jews.
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Reply #119 - May 20th, 2022 at 12:09am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 7:56pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 7:12pm:
Just so. European rivalry, inter-tribal conflict and even certain forms of religious bigotry are not necessarily racism. The problems you're having identifying race demonstrates that racism is learned, not innate.

Racism is the belief that you're superior to others based on your race, ethnicity and/or religion - normally all three as a package. The I'm-not-racists take this a step further and advocate racist isolation - ban them, send them back, we don't want them here. They're also quite willing to subjugate those they believe they're superior to, based on their race - invade them, carpetbomb them, colonialism ended far too soon.

That's the problem with the term race: it's meaningless but has been coopted to exclusively mean discrimination based on skin colour.

Its exclusivity means every other form of discrimination gets a get-out-of-jail-free card, because the discrimination is not based on skin color - so, not-racist.

Ethno-chauvinism better defines those who would discriminate based on ethnicity, culture, religion as well as skin colour.

And it is pervasive. You will find it manifesting in every society.


Oh no, you won't. You'll find it manifesting in online communities of spoilt white supremacists, many of whom are immigrants themselves.

Don't try to blur the lines. We know, every schoolboy knows.

Ask them. Would you rather be called a naughty old racist or a poor, suffering ethno-chauvinist?

Anders Breivik chose the former. His protege Brenton Tarrant agreed. The not-racists here would prefer not to say.

Cunning, no?
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Reply #120 - May 20th, 2022 at 12:17am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 8:45pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 7:12pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 19th, 2022 at 5:12pm:
And what is race? Is it colour of skin? Not in Africa, where the line is drawn at tribe; as African-Americans, who emigrate to Africa quickly find out. Not in India where ethnic Indians do discriminate on the basis of colour (dark being bad, fair being good), but they don't call it racism.

Europeans in Europe do not consider themselves separate races, even if they discriminate among themselves based on national culture.

Ethno-chauvinism (where the word is coopted to include ethnicity, culture and religion), is a far more accurate term that can include colour as a feature of one's ethnicity, but it is not necessary.

Arab Muslims and Sephardic Jews are Semitic peoples - skin colour is not a feature of their animosity towards each other.

Indian Muslims and Hindus are ethnically identical - religion being where the line is drawn.

Polynesians are ethnically identical, yet tribal animosities persist over centuries.

Melanesian and Polynesian animosity is not fueled by colour of skin. The same for native Americans.

Race (i.e. black and white) being the alpha and the omega of all things divisive is an American infection; Americans being incapable of perceiving the complexities of a world outside the United States.

And ingroup / outgroup identification is innate and its manifestation is inevitable. There has never been a society that does not recognise, identify and label them.


Just so. European rivalry, inter-tribal conflict and even certain forms of religious bigotry are not necessarily racism. The problems you're having identifying race demonstrates that racism is learned, not innate.

There's nothing wrong with identifying or discussing race and ethnicity. It's reasonable to make judgments about people based on nationality - we do it all the time. We enjoy travelling, for instance, because we get to meet different people and learn how they do things. There's always weighing up and judging involved when we assess our preferences and experiences. That's not racism.

Racism is the belief that you're superior to others based on your race, ethnicity and/or religion - normally all three as a package. The I'm-not-racists take this a step further and advocate racist isolation - ban them, send them back, we don't want them here. They're also quite willing to subjugate those they believe they're superior to, based on their race - invade them, carpetbomb them, colonialism ended far too soon.

We have quite a few of these types on our board - I'm quoting them. Their social and political views are dominated by hate. Their belief in exclusion and domination drives their world view and gets them into all sorts of problems. Those of us who've been here a while have heard it all. It's okay to hate the Muselman, they say. We're not racist - Islam is not a race, it's a religion.

After September 11, the not-racists got all cranky about the swarthy races - sorry, religions - coming to get us, so they ranted on until the US invaded Iraq. Finally, they said, watching all the missiles and ships and flags flying. They seemed almost happy for a while. It didn't matter that Iraq was next door to Saudi Arabia, the country that sponsored the terrorists, the not-racists just wanted to get the Muselman. It seems like almost yesterday.

Anyway, they got bored with that after a while and then Iraq went bad. More terrorists did even worse things and the not-racists said, you see? Told you. We need to get out.

No, we said, we told you. We warned you this would happen. So? They said. We can still ban the Muselman, we just won't invade him anymore. How are you going to ban a religion? We asked. Freedom of religion's in the constitution. They ignored that and moved onto Mexicans (true). They're breeding like flies, they said, we need to ban them. But we don't get Mexicans in Australia, we said. Doesn't matter, they said, send them back, we don't want them here.

Then it was blacks - actually, it's always been blacks. But our blacks are Aborigines, we said, where are you going to send them? The conversation might have moved onto killing, I can't remember. I'm not sure if they were joking when they said they should be sent back to the Dreamtime.

This is a rather polite version of our discussions over the years, but much of it's verbatim. The not-racists just react. They don't think, reflect or say ah. If you do this, you're one of them. I'm supposed to be a Pakistani - worse, a Pakistani bugger, a sort of swarthy, devious villain who lurks in the shadows and is quick with a blade - definitely not the sort of person you'd want your sister bringing home. I am, of course, an awful racist because I hate the white race so much.

Clash of civilisations, innit.


Interesting how you forgot to mention the racism perpetrated by you and your ilk ... against the Jews.


Interesting how you know my ilk when think I'm Greggery.

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Mattyfisk wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 12:09am:
Would you rather be called a naughty old racist or a poor, suffering ethno-chauvinist?
Cunning, no?

A naughty old racist or a poor, suffering Nazi?

'Racism' has been so hackneyed, beaten around the chops and contorted to explain every form of discrimination, that it has lost whatever meaning it could have had.

Or it has been press-ganged into singular purposes.

Americans have made it central to all things ethno-chauvinistic and placed African-Americans as the prime, and only, victim group; with the oppressor group, 'the whites', as the prime and only perpetrators of all 'racism'.

This American projection of its own guilt has infected the world such that it has established the fallacy that ethno-chauvinism is an innate feature of 'whiteness'.
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Reply #123 - May 20th, 2022 at 3:51pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 9:14am:
Mattyfisk wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 12:09am:
Would you rather be called a naughty old racist or a poor, suffering ethno-chauvinist?
Cunning, no?

A naughty old racist or a poor, suffering Nazi?

'Racism' has been so hackneyed, beaten around the chops and contorted to explain every form of discrimination, that it has lost whatever meaning it could have had.

Or it has been press-ganged into singular purposes.

Americans have made it central to all things ethno-chauvinistic and placed African-Americans as the prime, and only, victim group; with the oppressor group, 'the whites', as the prime and only perpetrators of all 'racism'.

This American projection of its own guilt has infected the world such that it has established the fallacy that ethno-chauvinism is an innate feature of 'whiteness'.


Actually, the Nazis started it. Sure, we were removing black kids and the Yanks were segregating their former slaves, but the Germans brought us together. The holocaust was going to be our future if we didn't pull up. It's worth visiting a holocaust site to grasp a sense of what happened, and how easily it could happen again.

The only people contorting racism here are the not-racists. Black rights groups might test the boundaries, but they get called on it. We're hardly being beaten around the chops by any any oppressive Aboriginal rights activists. No one's oppressing us on this board.

If racism was an innate feature of whiteness, it would be impossible to ask if we're racist. Some whites are, some aren't. Interesting that you'd use a term like whiteness though. Whites rarely think of themselves as coloured, just neutral. In white majority countries like Australia and the US, blacks are forced to consider what it means to be black. Whites aren't. I've never lived in an African country, but I don't think I've ever experienced racism in any Asian country I've visited. Hostility, foreigness, alienation, sure. I've even had dogs bark at the white guy walking past, but never racism.

"Ethno-chauvinism" dilutes a very real problem. We might be multicultural, but we're not "post-racist". Racism exists. You only have to look at the daily shrieks here to ban Towel Heads, Chows, Darkies. Many people think it's a perfectly reasonable proposition to send our colleagues, neighbours, friends and family members back to where they came from, based on their race. They'd quite happily turn Australia into an Apartheid state, with all the international consequences this would bring.

I don't know how you can call that anything other than racist. Given our history, not to mention our future, I think it's pretty reasonable to call it out.
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What about people who rape and murder children?

And who only recently in my lifetime also ate them?

Are they wonderful special people to you?
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[1]Actually, the Nazis started it. Sure, we were removing black kids and the Yanks were segregating their former slaves, but the Germans brought us together. The holocaust was going to be our future if we didn't pull up. It's worth visiting a holocaust site to grasp a sense of what happened, and how easily it could happen again.

The only people contorting racism here are the not-racists. Black rights groups might test the boundaries, but they get called on it. We're hardly being beaten around the chops by any any oppressive Aboriginal rights activists. No one's oppressing us here.

[2]If racism was an innate feature of whiteness, it would be impossible to ask if we're racist. Some whites are, some aren't. Interesting that you'd use a term like whiteness though. Whites rarely think of themselves as coloured, just neutral.

[3]In white majority countries like Australia and the US, blacks are forced to consider what it means to be black. Whites aren't. I've never lived in an African country, but I don't think I've ever experienced racism in any Asian country I've visited. Hostility, foreigness, alienation, sure, but never racism.

[4]"Ethno-chauvinism" dilutes a very real problem. We might be multicultural, but we're not "post-racist". Racism exists.

[1] I have visited holocaust sites. Leaving aside the German psyche's capacity for obsessive efficiency (including industrialising mass murder), genocides have occurred in every society where the capacity to commit one is available. And, leaving aside ancient history, there have been genocides throughout Christian Europe of Jews throughout history. It's nothing new.

And, leaving aside Jews, there's the Armenian genocide, the Rwandan genocide, the Kurdish genocide, the Rohingya genocide, the Tibetan genocide, the Bosnian genocide, multiple south American genocides, Cromwell's genocide of the Irish, the Scottish highlands ethnic cleansing. Name a dominant culture that has not committed a cultural / religious / ethnic genocide.

[2] Yes. There's no such ethnicity as 'whites'. That's an American thing; with its roots in the African transatlantic annihilation of identity, which left African-Americans identified as black without tribal identity.

[3] No 'racism' in an Asian country? OK, ethno-chauvinism then. Han Chinese hate Indians. They also hate Vietnamese (and the feeling's mutual).

Why was Singapore expelled from the Malaysian federation?

[4] so-called 'racism', which you haven't defined is, more accurately, ethno-chauvinism.

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Boris wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 4:38pm:
What about people who rape and murder children?

And who only recently in my lifetime also ate them?

Are they wonderful special people to you?


Cannibals?

Hard to say, Boris. Are they white or black?
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MeisterEckhart wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 4:42pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 3:51pm:
[1]Actually, the Nazis started it. Sure, we were removing black kids and the Yanks were segregating their former slaves, but the Germans brought us together. The holocaust was going to be our future if we didn't pull up. It's worth visiting a holocaust site to grasp a sense of what happened, and how easily it could happen again.

The only people contorting racism here are the not-racists. Black rights groups might test the boundaries, but they get called on it. We're hardly being beaten around the chops by any any oppressive Aboriginal rights activists. No one's oppressing us here.

[2]If racism was an innate feature of whiteness, it would be impossible to ask if we're racist. Some whites are, some aren't. Interesting that you'd use a term like whiteness though. Whites rarely think of themselves as coloured, just neutral.

[3]In white majority countries like Australia and the US, blacks are forced to consider what it means to be black. Whites aren't. I've never lived in an African country, but I don't think I've ever experienced racism in any Asian country I've visited. Hostility, foreigness, alienation, sure, but never racism.

[4]"Ethno-chauvinism" dilutes a very real problem. We might be multicultural, but we're not "post-racist". Racism exists.

[1] I have visited holocaust sites. Leaving aside the German psyche's capacity for obsessive efficiency (including industrialising mass murder), genocides have occurred in every society where the capacity to commit one is available. Again, leaving aside ancient history, there have been genocides throughout Christian Europe of Jews throughout history. It's nothing new.

And, leaving aside Jews, there's the Armenian genocide, the Rwandan genocide, the Kurdish genocide, the Rohingya genocide, the Tibetan genocide, the Bosnian genocide, multiple south American genocides, Cromwell's genocide of the Irish, the Scottish highlands ethnic cleansing. Name a dominant culture that has not committed a cultural / religious / ethnic genocide.

[2] Yes. There's no such ethnicity as 'whites'. That's an American thing; with its roots in the African transatlantic annihilation of identity, which left African-Americans identified as black without tribal identity.

[3] No 'racism' in an Asian country? OK, ethno-chauvinism then. Han Chinese hate Indians. They also hate Vietnamese (and the feeling's mutual).

Why was Singapore expelled from the Malaysian federation?



Lee Kuan Yew had his own version of racial supremacism, declaring the Chinese race genetically superior to Indians and Malays. Not so different to Gandhi, another Asian nationalist/founding father, who had a most Victorian understanding of race, with Indians stationed well above Africans in the racial hierarchy.

I see this as pretty racist, Meister, but when you look at their legacies, their slates are rather clean. Lee Kuan Yew created a state that's pretty much outlawed racism. Gandhi made the inclusion of Muslims a fundamental platform of the Indian National Congress. It's in the constitution. It's thanks to Gandhi that, until the rise of the BJP, Indians took pride in seeing themselves and their country as secular, embracing all religions.

So, yes, actions can speak louder than sentiments, but their racism still exists.
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Boris wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 4:38pm:
What about people who rape and murder children?

And who only recently in my lifetime also ate them?

Are they wonderful special people to you?


Are you mentally ill?
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Mattyfisk wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 5:04pm:
Lee Kuan Yew had his own version of racial supremacism, declaring the Chinese race genetically superior to Indians and Malays.

Many Han Chinese have a fetish for Nazi pseudo-scientific race theory. Hitler and Stalin are not denigrated as  evil dictators but as effective strongmen - and western ones.

As much as they think they're competing with the west, they obsessively absorb western thought (both science and pseudoscience, since they usually can't tell the difference) as superior to anything their local cultures have produced. That's why advertising in China is more effective when it's hosted by a 'wise western man' persona. Hence the use of 'white monkeys' in Chinese advertising.
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FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 5:15pm:
Boris wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 4:38pm:
What about people who rape and murder children?

And who only recently in my lifetime also ate them?

Are they wonderful special people to you?


Are you mentally ill?


No, I just think Boris has an aversion to cannibals, Future. And those who rape and murder children.

I'm sure he's not referring to the Catholic church.

The Catholic church are not a race, no?
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FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 4:09pm:
Agnes. wrote on May 16th, 2022 at 8:17pm:
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Yes I am!


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MeisterEckhart wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 5:17pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 5:04pm:
Lee Kuan Yew had his own version of racial supremacism, declaring the Chinese race genetically superior to Indians and Malays.

Many Han Chinese have a fetish for Nazi pseudo-scientific race theory. Hitler and Stalin are not denigrated as  evil dictators but as effective strongmen - and western ones.

As much as they think they're competing with the west, they obsessively absorb western thought (both science and pseudoscience, since they usually can't tell the difference) as superior to anything their local cultures have produced. That's why advertising in China is more effective when it's hosted by a 'wise western man' persona. Hence the use of 'white monkeys' in Chinese advertising.


I studied TCM for a year. The Chinese-trained teachers were obsessed with Western empiricist methods and basing everything on evidence. I don't think I'd call it a pseudo-science because of that focus, but the way they described it, they had a lot of  difficulty coming to terms with concepts like chi with their dogmatic, rationalist education. Western-trained students seemed to find it much easier.

Mainland Chinese are significantly different to exiled Chinese-speaking communities. Communist-trained Chinese lack a certain Taoist/Confucian interest in the unpredictable. I haven't been to mainland China, but I doubt they'd worship the ancestors as much as ethnic Chinese do in Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand or Taiwan.
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Reply #135 - May 20th, 2022 at 6:55pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 6:40pm:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 4:09pm:
Agnes. wrote on May 16th, 2022 at 8:17pm:
you may add the reason if you want or explain- up to you!!!

Yes I am!


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No you're not! You're a chicken wing!


You're racist, dear. You already confessed.
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I studied TCM for a year. The Chinese-trained teachers were obsessed with Western empiricist methods and basing everything on evidence. I don't think I'd call it a pseudo-science because of that focus, but the way they described it, they had a lot of  difficulty coming to terms with concepts like chi with their dogmatic, rationalist education. Western-trained students seemed to find it much easier.

Mainland Chinese are significantly different to exiled Chinese-speaking communities. Communist-trained Chinese lack a certain Taoist/Confucian interest in the unpredictable. I haven't been to mainland China, but I doubt they'd worship the ancestors as much as ethnic Chinese do in Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand or Taiwan.

With TCM, whatever they accept intellectually about its inefficacy, dried grasshopper legs are good for wellbeing, rebalancing chi, gastric disorders and persistent farting.

Faith dies hard; even the CCP can't eradicate Chinese superstition.
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Reply #137 - May 20th, 2022 at 8:49pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 5:15pm:
Boris wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 4:38pm:
What about people who rape and murder children?

And who only recently in my lifetime also ate them?

Are they wonderful special people to you?


Are you mentally ill?


I lived and worked for many years in the Northern Territory.

The Aborigines rape and murder both women and children all the time - the rate is off the scales compared to other ethnic groups.

The Initiation Ceremonies actually include 3 months of rape and physical and sexual abuse and the children frequently die as a result.

In my lifetime when I first went to the NT children were also cooked and eaten by the Aborigines.

But for some reason the Leftists in Australia think this is all wonderful.

I don't. I really really do not.

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Mattyfisk wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 4:43pm:
Boris wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 4:38pm:
What about people who rape and murder children?

And who only recently in my lifetime also ate them?

Are they wonderful special people to you?


Cannibals?

Hard to say, Boris. Are they white or black?


Aborigines - and they welcome to Country as they rape and murder and chow down of babies
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*SIGH* still no proof, Matty.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... What a WOFTAM...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Its all true and well know so FOAD

Women and children are brutalised raped and murdered on an industrial scale in the NT and rape and murder of children happens all the time

and they used to eat them in my lifetime

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Still no evidence, Matty.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Boris wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 8:57pm:
Its all true and well know so FOAD

Women and children are brutalised raped and murdered on an industrial scale in the NT and rape and murder of children happens all the time

and they used to eat them in my lifetime

FACT


Jesus Christ.  Can't tell if you are lying or blinded by racist hate.  First Australians were never cannibals. The Australian Museum literally has an exibit explaining why you are ignorant racist trash
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Boris wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 8:51pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 4:43pm:
Boris wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 4:38pm:
What about people who rape and murder children?

And who only recently in my lifetime also ate them?

Are they wonderful special people to you?


Cannibals?

Hard to say, Boris. Are they white or black?


Aborigines - and they welcome to Country as they rape and murder and chow down of babies


Do you masturbate while you tell these lies? They didn't have babies when you were a kid.  We stole them
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Reply #144 - May 20th, 2022 at 10:31pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 10:11pm:
Boris wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 8:57pm:
Its all true and well know so FOAD

Women and children are brutalised raped and murdered on an industrial scale in the NT and rape and murder of children happens all the time

and they used to eat them in my lifetime

FACT


Jesus Christ.  Can't tell if you are lying or blinded by racist hate.  First Australians were never cannibals. The Australian Museum literally has an exibit explaining why you are ignorant racist trash


Do a google search on cannibalism. Cannibalism has been a 'thing' in virtually every society since the dawn of mankind. There were articles about indigenous people engaging in cannibalism earlier in the 20th century. But the argument in this topic is whether indigenous Australians have engaged in cannibalism since the 1970s.
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Agnes. wrote on May 16th, 2022 at 8:17pm:
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Quote:
To this day, Africa can't prosper because of the actions of white countries.


source: https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1632975843/12#12

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There are no gene groups unique to aboriginal people.

Race is a pseudoscience.
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There are no gene groups unique to aboriginal people.

Race is a pseudoscience.


Race relates to genetics. Genetics is part of biological science.
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MeisterEckhart wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 11:12pm:
There are no gene groups unique to aboriginal people.

Race is a pseudoscience.


Race relates to genetics. Genetics is part of biological science.

The degree of aboriginality cannot be determined in anyone via genetic analysis.

Race is a pseudoscience.
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MeisterEckhart wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 12:17am:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 11:17pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 11:12pm:
There are no gene groups unique to aboriginal people.

Race is a pseudoscience.


Race relates to genetics. Genetics is part of biological science.

The degree of aboriginality cannot be determined in anyone via genetic analysis.

Race is a pseudoscience.


Yes it frickin' can. DNA would give an idea of what people would look like now and into the future, just based on genetic testing.
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*SIGH* still no proof, Matty.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... What a WOFTAM...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Matty, is he?

Sorry, Boris, I didn't read your other posts. To be honest, I assumed you were dumber than Matty.

But that's okay. You prefer the dark meat, eh?

We all do, dear, we all do.
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UnSubRocky wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 12:26am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 12:17am:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 11:17pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 11:12pm:
There are no gene groups unique to aboriginal people.

Race is a pseudoscience.


Race relates to genetics. Genetics is part of biological science.

The degree of aboriginality cannot be determined in anyone via genetic analysis.

Race is a pseudoscience.


Yes it frickin' can. DNA would give an idea of what people would look like now and into the future, just based on genetic testing.

What do you know about yourself in terms of your 'race'?

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MeisterEckhart wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 7:19am:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 12:26am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 12:17am:
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MeisterEckhart wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 11:12pm:
There are no gene groups unique to aboriginal people.

Race is a pseudoscience.


Race relates to genetics. Genetics is part of biological science.

The degree of aboriginality cannot be determined in anyone via genetic analysis.

Race is a pseudoscience.


Yes it frickin' can. DNA would give an idea of what people would look like now and into the future, just based on genetic testing.


What do you know about yourself in terms of your 'race'?



I bet you're too scared to ask ME that question!


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Mattyfisk wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 6:55pm:
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you may add the reason if you want or explain- up to you!!!

Yes I am!


no, I am not racist.  I am left wing


No you're not! You're a chicken wing!


You're racist, dear. You already confessed.


True but that was the other day.

Today I woke up and decided I no longer identify as racist.




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The concept of 'race', although it is a pseudoscience, is tenacious and it is something that plagues cultural identity.

This is particularly true where peoples have interbred over generations.

The New Zealand Maori, for example, having married non-Maori, and had children, for over 150 years, now cannot claim full ancestry from Polynesia. Despite this, Maori culture and Maori identity persist.

There is also the fact that genealogies, either written or orally transmitted, cannot lay claim to factual certainty as they are predicated on the presumption that those who claim to be parents/grandparents etc are, in fact, your biological relatives.
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Of all incidents that exposed 'race' as a pseudoscience, and made a mockery of it, none is more poignant than those Jews who escaped detection by the Nazis because they passed phrenological and physical-features tests imposed on them by Nazi 'scientists'.
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MeisterEckhart wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 9:04am:
The concept of 'race', although it is a pseudoscience, is tenacious and it is something that plagues cultural identity.

This is particularly true where peoples have interbred over generations.

The New Zealand Maori, for example, having married non-Maori, and had children, for over 150 years, now cannot claim full ancestry from Polynesia. Despite this, Maori culture and Maori identity persist.

There is also the fact that genealogies, either written or orally transmitted, cannot lay claim to factual certainty as they are predicated on the presumption that those who claim to be parents/grandparents etc are, in fact, your biological relatives.


Perhaps we're getting caught up in OVER using the term "race" when we should be referring to the term "ethnicity".

"Ethnicity relates to culturally contingent features, characterizes all human groups. It refers to a sense of identity and membership in a group that shares common language, cultural traits (values, beliefs, religion, food habits, customs, etc.), and a sense of a common history."
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I would have to say no. And I believe that if you were to ask anyone who knows me in real-life, they'd agree

Why?

As a kid growing up in the 1960s and 70s, many of my school-friends were the kids of post-WW2 immigrants and refugees. Among my friends were Greeks, Italians, an Estonian, a Cypriot girl, two brothers whose father was ex-Wehrmacht, a couple of Poms, several Poles, a Canadian and an Aboriginal girl. None of us cared about this - we were friends and that was that. Many of us remain friends to this day.

As an adult I've worked for a Polish fellow, and, for many years, a Lebanese man. I met his extended family and some of his friends, and ate at his home often. A fellow employee there was a Thai woman - a dear friend who I love and respect immensely.

I lived in Cabramatta for a time, and found the Vietnamese people to be extremely friendly, caring people. Our neighbours were a young Vietnamese couple, and were wonderful neighbours - unlike the bogan Aussie family on the other side. I have several friends of Aboriginal background who are both welcome and trusted in my home.

My doctor is from Africa and is black. He's also very good - one of those who is happy to explain things and answer questions. And my dental tech is also dark-skinned, not sure where he's from, but his name is French. He is also very good.

The town where I live has a fair variety of different races and ethnicities in a fairly small population (around 25,000) but racism really doesn't appear to be a big issue here. Of course, there is always the ratbag element wit their 'Fork off, we're full' garbage, but most locals ignore them.

I've always tended to judge people by who they are and what they do - not where they're from or the colour of their skin.
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Lisa Jones wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 9:00am:
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Yes I am!


no, I am not racist.  I am left wing


No you're not! You're a chicken wing!


You're racist, dear. You already confessed.


True but that was the other day.

Today I woke up and decided I no longer identify as racist.






Sorry, dear, you'll need the racist reassignment surgery. It's a job lot, I'm afraid, it can't be helped.
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MeisterEckhart wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 7:19am:
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There are no gene groups unique to aboriginal people.

Race is a pseudoscience.


Race relates to genetics. Genetics is part of biological science.

The degree of aboriginality cannot be determined in anyone via genetic analysis.

Race is a pseudoscience.


Yes it frickin' can. DNA would give an idea of what people would look like now and into the future, just based on genetic testing.

What do you know about yourself in terms of your 'race'?


I am a descendant of British and Germanic people.
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UnSubRocky wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 12:16pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 7:19am:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 12:26am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 12:17am:
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MeisterEckhart wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 11:12pm:
There are no gene groups unique to aboriginal people.

Race is a pseudoscience.


Race relates to genetics. Genetics is part of biological science.

The degree of aboriginality cannot be determined in anyone via genetic analysis.

Race is a pseudoscience.


Yes it frickin' can. DNA would give an idea of what people would look like now and into the future, just based on genetic testing.

What do you know about yourself in terms of your 'race'?


I am a descendant of British and Germanic people.

Or so you presume.

What 'race' do you define yourself as.
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FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 10:11pm:
Boris wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 8:57pm:
Its all true and well know so FOAD

Women and children are brutalised raped and murdered on an industrial scale in the NT and rape and murder of children happens all the time

and they used to eat them in my lifetime

FACT


Jesus Christ.  Can't tell if you are lying or blinded by racist hate.  First Australians were never cannibals. The Australian Museum literally has an exibit explaining why you are ignorant racist trash


Read and learn

Cannibalism is practised by all natives on the north coast with whom I have come in contact, with the exception of a very small tribe inhabiting the immediate neighbourhood of Port Essington … The eating of grown-up people—that is, of natives—is, as far as I can ascertain, not practised. Only children of tender age—up to about two years old—are considered fit subjects for food, and if they fall ill are often strangled by the old men, cooked, and eaten, and all parts except the head, which is skinned and buried, are considered a delicacy. Parents eat their own children, and all, young and old, partake of it. The only instance I have heard where grown-up people have been eaten, was that of two Europeans who were out exploring in the neighbourhood of the Tor Rock, about forty miles inland from Mount Norris Bay; this was in 1874. These unfortunate travellers were, according to the statements of the friendly natives, killed by the ‘Tor Rock’ tribe, cooked and eaten; and from my own knowledge of the natives in that neighbourhood I have no reason to doubt this statement to be correct.” (P. Foelsche, “Notes on the Aborigines of North Australia”, in Transactions of the Royal Society of South Australia, vol. 5, 1882.)

“The natives to the south eat human flesh. It is said that they engage in regular human hunting parties for this purpose … It is even said that they roast and eat their own infants, if they succeed each other too quickly. Only last year a woman not far from here did it, and when reproved for so doing, by means of an interpreter (for they speak a different language), she was surprised at being found fault with, as she considered the roasting and eating of her own child as something quite natural.” (Rev. Louis Schulze, missionary, “The Aborigines of the Upper and Middle Finke River: Their Habits and Customs”, in Transactions of the Royal Society of South Australia, vol. 14, 1891.)

There are literally hundreds of accounts of Aboriginal cannibalism, dating from the first European settlement in Australia to the 1930s or even later. These accounts were made in all the states and territories of Australia with the possible exception of Tasmania. They were written by witnesses and commentators from a wide variety of backgrounds who wrote in many genres—newspaper articles; autobiographies, many not meant for publication; court reports; scholarly proceedings, as in the accounts quoted above. They were written by persons not in contact with one another, often hundreds of kilometres apart, and having no knowledge of the accounts made by other white Australians, and whose veracity, when they wrote on other topics, would not be questioned.

Reports of Aboriginal cannibalism comprised a significant component of works on Aboriginal society down to the 1950s or even later. Since then they have vanished from all depictions of Aboriginal society, and, if asserted today, would be regarded as the embodiment of racism, and dismissed out of hand. These old and frank depictions of Aboriginal society have been replaced by their opposite: veneration for the indigenous inhabitants of Australia and their society as utopian and pristinely moral, and any trace of the endemic and nightmarishly barbaric world inhabited by the Aborigines found by virtually all early observers here has been totally erased, its depiction as fact wholly taboo.

Aboriginal cannibalism had many different aspects, but the practice existed because of one all-important fact. The Aborigines were pre-literate nomadic hunter-gatherers, who did not grow crops or domesticate livestock for food, and thus were often starving, and were certainly lacking in protein sources. As a result, they turned to eating human flesh, often making a virtue of necessity by endowing the practice with religious significance. Sometimes their cannibalism consisted of deliberately killing and eating small children, women, or the elderly, sometimes of eating enemy warriors slain in battle in the frequent inter-tribal wars and conflicts (which are also almost entirely missing from recent accounts of Aboriginal society). Another means of accomplishing the all-important goal of limiting a tribe’s population to a level which could realistically be supported by the available resources was infanticide, which was widely practised and which has also been excluded from contemporary depictions of Aboriginal life. (On the reasons for Aboriginal cannibalism and infanticide, see my article “Life and Death in Pre-Contact Aboriginal Australia”, Quadrant, October 2020.)

“Mr Willshire declares that infanticide is a very common crime among the natives, and that lubras [Aboriginal women] as a rule kill off their surplus offspring, two being considered a full family. A sable matron once owned to him that she had killed three of her five children immediately after birth, and remarked, ‘me bin keep em one boy one girl,
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Aboriginal cannibals demonstrated a number of distinctive culinary preferences. It appears that they greatly favoured the taste of Chinese people, whom they found and killed in remote areas of settlement, over the apparently saltier taste of Europeans:

“Urquhart says his boys always told him the blacks did not like the taste of whites much—they were too salt [sic]—but that they relished Chinamen, hundreds of whom were killed while packing provisions across the Peninsula to the Palmer River goldfields [in Queensland] in the days following Mulligan’s discovery of the field. This fact was put down to the salt-beef diet of the early whites, while the Chinese lived more on rice. Urquhart was called out to hunt up the murderers of a Chinaman living in a lonely hut by the roadside … Following up the blacks, Urquhart came upon them while engaged in the preparation of a meal. He and his troopers dashed into the camp and scattered the natives in all directions. On the fire was a looted pot, and simmering inside it was the Chinaman’s foot and some sweet potatoes.”  –-Hudson Fysh, Taming the North (1933), referring to the period after gold was discovered in 1873.

“The blacks west of Cooktown showed me several of the clay white-ant nest camp ovens, where they roasted the Chinese in the old Palmer digging days. On one occasion, I was present where two Chinese were roasted, and cut up, smelling and looking exactly like roast pork, even the yellow skin crinkled like that of pork, the resemblance being astonishing. One man they refused to eat, as he had been an opium eater, and his flesh had the odour of opium.” –“Memories of the Late Archibald Meston”, courtesy of E.A. Meston, in Cummins and Campbell’s Monthly Magazine, December 1936.

Cannibalism apparently became part of the religious practice among at least some of the Aborigines.

“In parts of New South Wales such as Bathurst, Goulburn, the Lachlan or Macquarie, it was customary long ago for the first-born of every lubra to be eaten by the tribe, as part of a religious ceremony; and I recollect a blackfellow who had, in compliance with the custom, been thrown when an infant on the fire, but was rescued and brought up by some stock-keepers who happened accidentally to be passing at the time. The marks of the burns were distinctly visible on the man when I saw him, and his story was well known in the locality.” –– R. Brough Smith, The Aborigines of Victoria, Volume One, 1878.

It would seem, however, that most of the people eaten by the Aborigines had already died, and their bodies were cooked and eaten rather than buried. There are dozens of contemporary reports about this practice, which appears to have been almost ubiquitous in some parts of Australia.

“When anyone dies, provided he or she be not too old, certain of the male relatives take the body out into the bush and cook it in a native oven … When all the flesh is removed—apparently everything is eaten—the bones are collected, and, with the exception of the long ones from the arm, are wrapped in paperbark and handed over to the custody of a relative.”— Walter Baldwin Spencer and Francis James Gillen, Across Australia, 1912.

There are also a great many reports of the cooking and eating of warriors from hostile tribes who had been killed in one of the many and frequent tribal wars and violent clashes.

As noted, however, infanticide appears to have been an important means of population limitation. Nineteenth-century European observers of Aboriginal life in South Australia and Victoria stated that about 30 per cent of Aboriginal infants were killed at birth. According to Gillian Cowlishaw, writing on “Infanticide in Aboriginal Australia” in Oceania (vol. XLVIII, 1978), deformed children were “always killed at birth”, as were “one or both of twins”, and illegitimate children.

In addition to accounts by settlers, reports about cannibalism were made to Australian government officials and accepted by them. For instance, in forwarding to the Secretary of State for War and the Colonies, Lord Stanley, a copy of an account by Charles Sievwright, assistant protector of the Aborigines of the Port Phillip District, dated April 25, 1841, Governor Gipps noted: “It exhibits, perhaps, one of the most ferocious acts of cannibalism on record.” The account, describing the fate of the corpse of a young Bolagher woman, who had been speared by a member of the Targurt people at Lake Terang, west of Melbourne, makes gruesome reading. (I owe this reference to Michael Connor, The Invention of Terra Nullius, Macleay Press, 2005, pp. 91–94):

On being directed by some of the women, who had likewise sought shelter near my tent, to the huts of the Bolaghers, I there found a young woman, supported in the arms of some of her tribe, quite insensible, and bleeding from two severe wounds upon the right side of the face; she continued in the same state of insensibility till about 11 o’clock, when she expired …

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On being directed by some of the women, who had likewise sought shelter near my tent, to the huts of the Bolaghers, I there found a young woman, supported in the arms of some of her tribe, quite insensible, and bleeding from two severe wounds upon the right side of the face; she continued in the same state of insensibility till about 11 o’clock, when she expired …

About an hour after the death of the young woman, the body was removed a few hundred yards into the bush by the father and brother of the deceased; the remainder of the tribe following by one at a time, until they had all joined what I imagined to be the usual funeral party. Having accompanied the body when it was removed, I was then requested to return to my tent, which request I took no notice of. In a few minutes I was again desired, rather sternly, and by impatient signs, to go. I endeavoured to make them understand that I wished to remain, and I sat down upon a tree close to where the body lay. The father of the deceased then came close up to me, and pointed with his finger to his mouth, and then to the dead body. I was at this moment closely and intensely scrutinized by the whole party. I at once guessed their meaning, and signified my intention to remain, and, with as much indifference as I could assume, stretched myself upon the tree, and narrowly watched their proceedings.

With a flint they made a small incision upon the breast, when a simultaneous shriek was given by the party, and the same violent signs of grief were again evinced. After a short time the operation was again commenced, and in a few minutes the body disembowelled.

The scene which now took place was of the most revolting description; horror-stricken and utterly disgusted, while obliged to preserve that equanimity of demeanour upon which I imagined the development of this tragedy to depend, I witnessed the most fearful scene of ferocious cannibalism.

The bowels and entire viscera having been disengaged from the body, were at first portioned out; but from the impatience of some of the women to get at the liver, a general scramble took place for it, and it was snatched in pieces, and, without the slightest process of cooking, was devoured with an eagerness and avidity, a keen, fiendish expression of impatience for more, from which scene, a memory too tenacious upon this subject will not allow me to escape; the kidneys and heart were in like manner immediately consumed, and as a climax to these revolting orgies, when the whole viscera were removed, a quantity of blood and serum which had collected in the cavity of the chest was eagerly collected in handsful [sic], and drunk by the old man who had dissected the body; the flesh was entirely cut off the ribs and back, the arms and legs were wrenched and twisted from the shoulder and hip joints, and their teeth employed to dissever the reeking tendons, when they would not immediately yield to their impatience. The limbs were now doubled up and put aside in their baskets; and on putting a portion of the flesh upon a fire which had previously been lit, they seemed to remember that I was of the party; something was said to one of the women, who cut off a foot from the leg she had in her possession, and offered it to me; I thought it prudent to accept of it, and wrapping it in my handkerchief, and pointing to my tent they nodded assent, and I joyfully availed myself of their permission to retire. They shortly afterwards returned to their huts with the debris of the feast, and during the day, to the horror and annoyance of my two boys, and those belonging to the establishment, they brought another part, and some half-picked bones, and offered them to us. The head was struck off with a tomahawk and placed between hot stones in the hollow of a tree, where it has undergone a process of baking, and it is still left there otherwise untouched.

“I regret to state that I know of 44 non-Christian infants who have been killed by their mothers at birth, and one child even of four years of age who was killed and eaten by its mother: now the latter is a Christian. I always let the blacks know when I visit their camps that I am fond of their children, and offer them so much rice and flour for any infant they do not want.”  — Report of Father Nicholas, Parish Priest in Broome, in Royal Commission on the Condition of the Natives, Parliamentary Papers 5 of 1905, Perth.
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“Since their baptism the missionaries are informed of many matters which were formerly never admitted. New-born children are frequently killed by their mothers—of twins the female, or if [of] one sex the weaker, also all the children who are feeble or cripples, and many bastards.” (Report by Friedrich Krichauff, MP, on the Finke River Mission Station, in the South Australian Register, 1 July 1889.)

That cannibalism was widely practised by Australian Aborigines was a commonplace in virtually all accounts of their society down at least to the 1950s. As late as 1957, Frederick McCarthy, an eminent anthropologist and the Foundation Principal of the Australian Institute of Aboriginal Studies, could assert as a matter of fact in his Australian Aborigines: Their Life and Culture that “Cannibalism existed not only as a part of death and mourning rites, but also in the custom of infanticide.”

By around 1970 or slightly later, however, such assertions were conspicuous by their absence from newly published accounts of Aboriginal society, with nothing said about cannibalism and infanticide. Anyone making such assertions would be condemned. A typical example of this may be found online, in a biographical account—by Lauren Gawne, posted in 2016 on something termed the “Dangerous Women Project”—of the career of Daisy Bates (1859–1951), who spent several decades living with outback Aborigines and wrote several well-known books and 270 newspaper articles on Aboriginal life. Dr Gawne was there described as “a linguist working on the documentation of linguistic diversity, particularly in Nepal”, and is now Senior Lecturer in the Department of Languages and Linguistics at La Trobe University. According to her, Bates’s “reports of cannibalism among the Aborigines of Australia were discredited during her lifetime, to her embarrassment … These stories of cannibalism illustrate Bates’s slippery relationship with the truth. Julia Blackburn, in her very perceptive biography, is direct in her appraisal: ‘Daisy Bates was a liar, of that I am sure’.”
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Nothing recent in that lot, Matty.  Try again.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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MeisterEckhart wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 12:36pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 12:16pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 7:19am:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 12:26am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 12:17am:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 11:17pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 11:12pm:
There are no gene groups unique to aboriginal people.

Race is a pseudoscience.


Race relates to genetics. Genetics is part of biological science.

The degree of aboriginality cannot be determined in anyone via genetic analysis.

Race is a pseudoscience.


Yes it frickin' can. DNA would give an idea of what people would look like now and into the future, just based on genetic testing.

What do you know about yourself in terms of your 'race'?


I am a descendant of British and Germanic people.

Or so you presume.

What 'race' do you define yourself as.


No. I have actually seen research done on my family history going back to the mid-1800s. One side is German. The other side British.

I identify as having a white/caucasian racial background
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Mattyfisk wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 1:01am:
Brian Ross wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 8:56pm:
*SIGH* still no proof, Matty.  Tsk, tsk, tsk... What a WOFTAM...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Matty, is he?

Sorry, Boris, I didn't read your other posts. To be honest, I assumed you were dumber than Matty.

But that's okay. You prefer the dark meat, eh?

We all do, dear, we all do.


I am not Matty

I lived and worked in the NT for many years in the Health Department and children are raped and murdered all the time.

They no longer eat them - as far as I know

Infanticide—the deliberate murder of new-born infants and young children—was practised widely, and perhaps ubiquitously, among Australian Aborigines before the coming of Europeans and the imposition of Western values, which, unlike the values of pre-contact Aborigines, regarded the deliberate killing of babies and small children as murder. How common was infanticide among pre-contact Aborigines? According to University of Michigan professor of anthropology Aram Yengoyan: “Infanticide was the primary means of population control. In theory, infanticide could have been as high as 40% to 50% of all births, and the population could have survived. In actuality infanticide rates were lower, and probably ranged from 15% to 30% of all births … Presently, infanticide is no longer practiced on missions and government stations. However, differential care (physical and affective) extended to infants could be interpreted as infanticide.” (Aram Yengoyan, “Biological and Demographic Components in Aboriginal Australian Socio-Economic Organization”, Oceania, Vol. 43 (2), December 1972, p. 88.)
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I saw the corpses and the rape victims


Graham Davis used some previously unaired footage of Fred Hollows, filmed in 1992 when HIV-AIDS loomed as a key problem in the outback. Hollows was going public about the practice of elders in some tribes sodomising boys during the course of initiation. Davis asked: "Does that mean Aborigines ought to be told not to do it?" Hollows replied: "Yes, of course. What else am I going to say? Do it and die?"

Using the plain-spoken Hollows to ventilate a matter the politically correct would rather no one talked about was a deft touch on Davis's part, in an exemplary cover story. Although no other media, as far as I can tell, picked up on the sexual element in initiation ceremonies, no doubt it gave an added edge to the debate that raged, in and out of federal parliament, all through the week on the role of customary law.

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In 1992 Fred Hollows was filmed talking about the practice of Aboriginal elders in some remote communities sodomising boys during initiations, and he complained about the HIV infections. The footage was aired only recently (mid-2000s). Nowra says, “It is highly probable his comments were considered too inflammatory and regarded as culturally insensitive.”
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Brian Ross wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 2:42pm:
https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223...

Nothing recent in that lot, Matty.  Try again.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Children - even babies in the NT are being raped and murdered right now as we speak
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Reply #171 - May 21st, 2022 at 3:20pm
 
Boris wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 2:53pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 2:42pm:
https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223...

Nothing recent in that lot, Matty.  Try again.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Children - even babies in the NT are being raped and murdered right now as we speak


...

You really are quite thick, Matty.  No evidence, no links have been presented that go directly to any proof of what you claim.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #172 - May 21st, 2022 at 3:33pm
 
Boris wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 2:53pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 2:42pm:
Nothing recent in that lot, Matty.  Try again.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Children - even babies in the NT are being raped and murdered right now as we speak


I absolutely believe you that white policemen in the NT are raping and murdering black babies, right now
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Reply #173 - May 21st, 2022 at 3:35pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 3:33pm:
Boris wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 2:53pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 2:42pm:
Nothing recent in that lot, Matty.  Try again.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes





Children - even babies in the NT are being raped and murdered right now as we speak


I absolutely believe you that white policemen in the NT are raping and murdering black babies, right now

I  really  hope that's wrong!!!
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Reply #174 - May 21st, 2022 at 3:37pm
 
Agnes. wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 3:35pm:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 3:33pm:
Boris wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 2:53pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 2:42pm:
Nothing recent in that lot, Matty.  Try again.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



I hope you are wrong!!

Children - even babies in the NT are being raped and murdered right now as we speak


I absolutely believe you that white policemen in the NT are raping and murdering black babies, right now



So true, you had nothing to add......
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Reply #175 - May 21st, 2022 at 3:55pm
 
Aborigines rape and murder Aborigine children in the NT.

The police are resigning
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Reply #176 - May 21st, 2022 at 3:59pm
 
Crime in the Outback: ‘This town has a problem with sexual assault on children’
THE tiny town where children too young for school turn up at the pub at night searching for their parents has been struck by tragedy again.

AN OUTBACK town plagued with killings, violence, suicides and child sexual assaults, is inconspicuously tucked away amid the red, dusty plains and vibrant skies of Central Australia.

Tennant Creek, located about 500km north of Alice Springs in the Northern Territory, has been known for its high crime rates and social dysfunction, fuelled by substance abuse and endemic poverty, for decades.

The town’s average murder rate is higher per 100,000 inhabitants than that of the United States — a country notorious for gun violence and mass killings, according to NT Government figures.

That’s despite Tennant Creek boasting a tiny population of just 2991 people, with more than half indigenous, the latest figures from the Australian Bureau of Statistics show. It’s a place where children not old enough to attend school are often seen roaming the streets on their lonesome in the early hours of the morning and in the dark of the night.

https://www.news.com.au/national/crime-in-the-outback-this-town-has-a-problem-wi...
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Reply #177 - May 21st, 2022 at 4:00pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 3:33pm:
Boris wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 2:53pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 2:42pm:
Nothing recent in that lot, Matty.  Try again.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Children - even babies in the NT are being raped and murdered right now as we speak


I absolutely believe you that white policemen in the NT are raping and murdering black babies, right now


You really are a total fool
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Reply #178 - May 21st, 2022 at 5:46pm
 
Yes- I don't like the Victorian and Tasmanian races.
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Reply #179 - May 21st, 2022 at 7:34pm
 
Johnnie wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 5:46pm:
Yes- I don't like the Victorian and Tasmanian races.


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Reply #180 - May 22nd, 2022 at 1:47am
 
... only when some arsehole attached like superglue to his racist ideas attacks me personally... then I can wage war with the best of them.....

My uncle was a NSW Police Officer for fifty odd years.... he was notorious for going into the pubs in the country towns where he worked, and telling people, and WOMEN, to get home to their kids and out of the pub.  He was also known for not persecuting 'young blokes without money' who came through, but offering them work cutting the lawns etc at the police station and then sending them down the road with some wages earned instead.

When he died, the police commissioner made a speech about 'the honest copper' and how good he was.

He married a part-Aboriginal woman and was known in The Force as 'the black fella', but highly respected.

I'd like to see some of you arseholes get that far and actually make a real difference - for a change.
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Reply #181 - May 22nd, 2022 at 8:52am
 
Boris wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 4:00pm:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 3:33pm:
Boris wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 2:53pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 21st, 2022 at 2:42pm:
Nothing recent in that lot, Matty.  Try again.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Children - even babies in the NT are being raped and murdered right now as we speak


I absolutely believe you that white policemen in the NT are raping and murdering black babies, right now


You really are a total fool


For throwing your racist bullshit in your face?
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Reply #182 - May 22nd, 2022 at 8:57am
 
The crime in the NT is out of all control - the worst crimes ever.

Guess who is doing it all?

Have you ever worked in a hospital and had to deal with axe victims or rape victims or murder victims?

Babies are raped and murdered and it is hard to see.

You are an ignorant fool.

Exactly what do you know about Initiation Ceremonies?
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Reply #183 - May 22nd, 2022 at 8:59am
 
Boris wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 8:57am:
The crime in the NT is out of all control - the worst crimes ever.

Guess who is doing it all?

Have you ever worked in a hospital and had to deal with axe victims or rape victims or murder victims?

Babies are raped and murdered and it is hard to see.

You are an ignorant fool.

Exactly what do you know about Initiation Ceremonies?


Why do you keep masturbating to lies about dead babies? Are you some sort of sicko?

initiation ceremonies.  LOL!!! Tell me about pygmies next
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Reply #184 - May 22nd, 2022 at 9:14am
 
There it is

NFI

You deluded fool

Crime in Remote Australia is out of all control but you being an Inner City Latte Sipping Leftie with no idea of reality just do not have a clue.

Assault Rate per 100,000      3284.6

Domestic violence related assault Rate per 100,000      2074.7

Sexual assault Rate per 100,000      154.2

Crime is increasing in Alice Springs and as at 31 January this year, assaults had risen by almost 6 per cent in the previous 12 months, house break-ins were up more than 46 per cent, and commercial break-ins had increased by over 60 per cent.




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Reply #185 - May 22nd, 2022 at 9:40am
 
Was Archie a racist?


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Reply #186 - May 22nd, 2022 at 9:52am
 
Boris wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 9:14am:
There it is

NFI

You deluded fool

Crime in Remote Australia is out of all control but you being an Inner City Latte Sipping Leftie with no idea of reality just do not have a clue.

Assault Rate per 100,000      3284.6

Domestic violence related assault Rate per 100,000      2074.7

Sexual assault Rate per 100,000      154.2

Crime is increasing in Alice Springs and as at 31 January this year, assaults had risen by almost 6 per cent in the previous 12 months, house break-ins were up more than 46 per cent, and commercial break-ins had increased by over 60 per cent.



'here are some numbers without a source, please believe me'

30% of the NT is Aboriginals.  You're claiming they do ALL the crime? Based on what?

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Reply #187 - May 22nd, 2022 at 10:42am
 
Bobby. wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 9:40am:
Was Archie a racist?

[]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_UBgkFHm8o[]

Of course he was. Carroll O'Connor's character, 'Archie Bunker', was crafted to be a stereotypical pre-boomer chauvinist on every subject as a foil for Rob Reiner's, early-boomer liberal character, 'Mike Stivic'.

While 'Archie Bunker' applied negative stereotypical epithets to every ethnicity and culture, his own was never divulged; his cultural religious affiliation, however, was : Christian protestant.
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Reply #188 - May 22nd, 2022 at 10:51am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 10:42am:
Bobby. wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 9:40am:
Was Archie a racist?

[]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_UBgkFHm8o[]

Of course he was. Carroll O'Connor's character, 'Archie Bunker', was crafted to be a stereotypical pre-boomer chauvinist on every subject as a foil for Rob Reiner's, early-boomer liberal character, 'Mike Stivic'.

While 'Archie Bunker' applied negative stereotypical epithets to every ethnicity and culture, his own was never divulged; his cultural religious affiliation, however, was : Christian protestant.



Archie was racist but he couldn't see it himself.
In the video he fawns over Sammy Davis but
can't help sounding racist.
It was a very funny show.
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Reply #189 - May 22nd, 2022 at 12:14pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 9:52am:
Boris wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 9:14am:
There it is

NFI

You deluded fool

Crime in Remote Australia is out of all control but you being an Inner City Latte Sipping Leftie with no idea of reality just do not have a clue.

Assault Rate per 100,000      3284.6

Domestic violence related assault Rate per 100,000      2074.7

Sexual assault Rate per 100,000      154.2

Crime is increasing in Alice Springs and as at 31 January this year, assaults had risen by almost 6 per cent in the previous 12 months, house break-ins were up more than 46 per cent, and commercial break-ins had increased by over 60 per cent.



'here are some numbers without a source, please believe me'

30% of the NT is Aboriginals.  You're claiming they do ALL the crime? Based on what?



Ha Ha - you poor deluded fool
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Where the hell do you live, Future? What town or region?
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Reply #191 - May 22nd, 2022 at 12:26pm
 
He has never lived in the NT or worked in the Hospitals - so ignorant to the max

Although Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander adults make up around 2% of the national population, they constitute 27% of the national prison population.

https://www.alrc.gov.au/publication/pathways-to-justice-inquiry-into-the-incarce...
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Wow!  A source, a link, amazing, Matty.  I've been pressing you for months and finally you deliver one, hey?  Astounding.  Gee, perhaps we'll see one for Cannibalism after the 1970s?  Who knows. perhaps the sun will rise in the West tomorrow, hey?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Aborigines were Cannibals in my lifetime

I know it happened in the 70s in Arnhem Land.

Right now children even babies are raped and murdered and you are silent
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Boris wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 4:03pm:
Aborigines were Cannibals in my lifetime

I know it happened in the 70s in Arnhem Land.

Right now children even babies are raped and murdered and you are silent


Still no evidence.  Why should I post anything, Matty?  You're doing a more than adequate job of appearing as an idiot.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #195 - May 22nd, 2022 at 4:19pm
 
Right now children even babies are raped and murdered and you are silent

I have seen it
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Boris wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 4:03pm:
Aborigines were Cannibals in my lifetime

I know it happened in the 70s in Arnhem Land.


Right now children even babies are raped and murdered and you are silent


No you’re wrong
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Reply #197 - May 23rd, 2022 at 9:13am
 
Raven wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 7:48pm:
Boris wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 4:03pm:
Aborigines were Cannibals in my lifetime

I know it happened in the 70s in Arnhem Land.


Right now children even babies are raped and murdered and you are silent


No you’re wrong


I am right

I was there
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Reply #198 - May 23rd, 2022 at 9:15am
 
Boris wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 9:13am:
Raven wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 7:48pm:
Boris wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 4:03pm:
Aborigines were Cannibals in my lifetime

I know it happened in the 70s in Arnhem Land.


Right now children even babies are raped and murdered and you are silent


No you’re wrong


I am right

I was there


You were raping babies? Jesus
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Reply #199 - May 23rd, 2022 at 9:16am
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 4:16pm:
Boris wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 4:03pm:
Aborigines were Cannibals in my lifetime

I know it happened in the 70s in Arnhem Land.

Right now children even babies are raped and murdered and you are silent


Still no evidence.  Why should I post anything, Matty?  You're doing a more than adequate job of appearing as an idiot.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The thing about Brian
1 Grandiosity - he is just so clever and superior
2 Omnipotence - the knower of all things
3 Devaluation - others who disagree with his great all knowing all wise mind are inferior creatures.

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Reply #200 - May 23rd, 2022 at 9:19am
 
Boris wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 9:13am:
Raven wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 7:48pm:
Boris wrote on May 22nd, 2022 at 4:03pm:
Aborigines were Cannibals in my lifetime

I know it happened in the 70s in Arnhem Land.


Right now children even babies are raped and murdered and you are silent


No you’re wrong


I am right

I was there

Did you report it to the police?

Did you alert the media?
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Reply #201 - May 23rd, 2022 at 9:22am
 
The police were there at the post mortems where I assisted.

Children even babies are raped and murdered all the time in the NT - the police see it all the time.

Cannibalism was still going on in Arnhem Land in the 70s and as far as I know has now stopped but they still spear each other on a daily basis and rape and murder children every week.

Tragedy as baby boy dies in the troubled outback town of Tennant Creek just a few doors down from where a girl, two, was raped
Police found the baby unresponsive when they were called on Tuesday morning
He was then rushed to Tennant Creek hospital where he was pronounced dead
The baby was found just a few doors down from where a toddler was raped
A two-year-old girl was raped by a 25-year-old man in the town in February 2018

A baby boy has died in an isolated Northern Territory town, just a few doors away from where a two-year-old girl was raped.

Police found the infant unresponsive after being called to a public housing property on Haddock Street in Tennant Creek at 9.17am on Tuesday.

'Paramedics transported the child to the Tennant Creek Hospital. He was pronounced deceased a short time later,' a police spokesman said.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8477001/Northern-Territory-Tennant-Cree...
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Reply #202 - May 23rd, 2022 at 9:26am
 
Boris wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 9:22am:
The police were there at the post mortems where I assisted.

Children even babies are raped and murdered all the time in the NT - the police see it all the time.

Cannibalism was still going on in Arnhem Land in the 70s and as far as I know has now stopped but they still spear each other on a daily basis and rape and murder children every week.

Tragedy as baby boy dies in the troubled outback town of Tennant Creek just a few doors down from where a girl, two, was raped
Police found the baby unresponsive when they were called on Tuesday morning
He was then rushed to Tennant Creek hospital where he was pronounced dead
The baby was found just a few doors down from where a toddler was raped
A two-year-old girl was raped by a 25-year-old man in the town in February 2018

A baby boy has died in an isolated Northern Territory town, just a few doors away from where a two-year-old girl was raped.

Police found the infant unresponsive after being called to a public housing property on Haddock Street in Tennant Creek at 9.17am on Tuesday.

'Paramedics transported the child to the Tennant Creek Hospital. He was pronounced deceased a short time later,' a police spokesman said.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8477001/Northern-Territory-Tennant-Cree...



First Australians were never cannibals LOL.  the daily mail is racist bullshit for boomer scum
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FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 9:26am:
First Australians were never cannibals LOL.

You can't be certain.

What is certain is that cannibalism was a feature within Papua New Guinean and Polynesian cultures.

It would not be a stretch to imagine that cannibalism was also a feature within ancient Aboriginal culture.
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Reply #204 - May 23rd, 2022 at 9:38am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 9:36am:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 9:26am:
First Australians were never cannibals LOL.

You can't be certain.

What is certain is that cannibalism was a feature within Papua New Guinean and Polynesian cultures.

It would not be a stretch to imagine that cannibalism was also a feature within ancient Aboriginal culture.


It's possible to build a fantasy but no evidence exists it was true
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FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 9:38am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 9:36am:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 9:26am:
First Australians were never cannibals LOL.

You can't be certain.

What is certain is that cannibalism was a feature within Papua New Guinean and Polynesian cultures.

It would not be a stretch to imagine that cannibalism was also a feature within ancient Aboriginal culture.


It's possible to build a fantasy but no evidence exists it was true

It has been well documented by European explorers in Papua New Guinea and Polynesia throughout the 19th and early 20th centuries.
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Reply #206 - May 23rd, 2022 at 9:42am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 9:39am:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 9:38am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 9:36am:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 9:26am:
First Australians were never cannibals LOL.

You can't be certain.

What is certain is that cannibalism was a feature within Papua New Guinean and Polynesian cultures.

It would not be a stretch to imagine that cannibalism was also a feature within ancient Aboriginal culture.


It's possible to build a fantasy but no evidence exists it was true

It has been well documented by European explorers in Papua New Guinea and Polynesia throughout the 19th and early 20th centuries.


AUSTRALIA.  Spell it out loud
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FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 9:42am:
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First Australians were never cannibals LOL.

You can't be certain.

What is certain is that cannibalism was a feature within Papua New Guinean and Polynesian cultures.

It would not be a stretch to imagine that cannibalism was also a feature within ancient Aboriginal culture.


It's possible to build a fantasy but no evidence exists it was true

It has been well documented by European explorers in Papua New Guinea and Polynesia throughout the 19th and early 20th centuries.


AUSTRALIA.  Spell it out loud

What did that mean to ancient aboriginal people?

It is a mistake to impose European and Judeo-Christian morals on primitive peoples who existed without them for thousands of years.

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Reply #208 - May 23rd, 2022 at 9:51am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 9:49am:
It is a mistake to impose European and Judeo-Christian morals on primitive peoples who existed without them for thousands of years.


Aboriginals never embraced Judeo Christian ideals of genocide. That's not the point.  Different people, different country, and there's no evidence what you said is true
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Reply #209 - May 23rd, 2022 at 9:52am
 
Aborigines were cannibals up to the and including the 70s - FACT

There are literally hundreds of accounts of Aboriginal cannibalism, dating from the first European settlement in Australia to the 1930s or even later.

Reports of Aboriginal cannibalism comprised a significant component of works on Aboriginal society down to the 1950s or even later. (my lifetime)

“The blacks west of Cooktown showed me several of the clay white-ant nest camp ovens, where they roasted the Chinese in the old Palmer digging days. On one occasion, I was present where two Chinese were roasted, and cut up, smelling and looking exactly like roast pork, even the yellow skin crinkled like that of pork, the resemblance being astonishing. One man they refused to eat, as he had been an opium eater, and his flesh had the odour of opium.” –“Memories of the Late Archibald Meston”, courtesy of E.A. Meston, in Cummins and Campbell’s Monthly Magazine, December 1936.

As noted, however, infanticide appears to have been an important means of population limitation. Nineteenth-century European observers of Aboriginal life in South Australia and Victoria stated that about 30 per cent of Aboriginal infants were killed at birth. According to Gillian Cowlishaw, writing on “Infanticide in Aboriginal Australia” in Oceania (vol. XLVIII, 1978), deformed children were “always killed at birth”, as were “one or both of twins”, and illegitimate children.

That cannibalism was widely practised by Australian Aborigines was a commonplace in virtually all accounts of their society down at least to the 1950s. As late as 1957, Frederick McCarthy, an eminent anthropologist and the Foundation Principal of the Australian Institute of Aboriginal Studies, could assert as a matter of fact in his Australian Aborigines: Their Life and Culture that “Cannibalism existed not only as a part of death and mourning rites, but also in the custom of infanticide.”

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Reply #210 - May 23rd, 2022 at 9:55am
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 9:51am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 9:49am:
It is a mistake to impose European and Judeo-Christian morals on primitive peoples who existed without them for thousands of years.


Aboriginals never embraced Judeo Christian ideals of genocide. That's not the point.  Different people, different country, and there's no evidence what you said is true

Do you think ancient migratory peoples, in small family groups, got their food from ancient supermarkets?

How do you think seafaring migratory people survived at sea when the fish weren't biting?
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Reply #211 - May 23rd, 2022 at 9:56am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 9:55am:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 9:51am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 9:49am:
It is a mistake to impose European and Judeo-Christian morals on primitive peoples who existed without them for thousands of years.


Aboriginals never embraced Judeo Christian ideals of genocide. That's not the point.  Different people, different country, and there's no evidence what you said is true

Do you think ancient migratory peoples, in small family groups, got their food from ancient supermarkets?

How do you think seafaring migratory people survived at sea when the fish weren't biting?


This is all conjecture.  There used to be a lot more fish TBH.
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Reply #212 - May 23rd, 2022 at 9:59am
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 9:56am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 9:55am:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 9:51am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 9:49am:
It is a mistake to impose European and Judeo-Christian morals on primitive peoples who existed without them for thousands of years.


Aboriginals never embraced Judeo Christian ideals of genocide. That's not the point.  Different people, different country, and there's no evidence what you said is true

Do you think ancient migratory peoples, in small family groups, got their food from ancient supermarkets?

How do you think seafaring migratory people survived at sea when the fish weren't biting?


This is all conjecture.  There used to be a lot more fish TBH. 

Really? Most fish don't inhabit the open ocean; there's no cover or food for them to survive.

You want to read the true story that inspired Melville's 'Moby Dick'.
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Reply #213 - May 23rd, 2022 at 10:02am
 
Cannibalism with the Aborigines is well documented

Now they rape and murder babies

Its in the news
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Cannibalism has been practised whenever and wherever there has been a sudden crisis of food supply.

Even during Soviet and early Chinese communist periods when Stalin's and Mao's imposition of their psychopathic societal restructures caused mass famines.
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Reply #215 - May 23rd, 2022 at 10:15am
 
Aborigines killed and ate their babies and children as a custom - habit.

Nothing to do with starvation
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The abolition of cannibalism after British rule came as a surprise to the NZ Maori, who presumed they could continue the practise as a custom.

The British didn't think so and began hanging chiefs of tribes who allowed its practise.
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Aborigines do not care about the law

They rape and murder women and children all the time
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Reply #218 - May 23rd, 2022 at 10:51am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 9:55am:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 9:51am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 9:49am:
It is a mistake to impose European and Judeo-Christian morals on primitive peoples who existed without them for thousands of years.


Aboriginals never embraced Judeo Christian ideals of genocide. That's not the point.  Different people, different country, and there's no evidence what you said is true

Do you think ancient migratory peoples, in small family groups, got their food from ancient supermarkets?

How do you think seafaring migratory people survived at sea when the fish weren't biting?


I doubt that they did much fishing whilst at sea. And, by the seems of things, the distance between Australia and New Guinea would have been hundreds of kilometres away that the indigenous Australians' ancestors would have crossed in a day. Even today, with higher sea levels, people could cross that in paddle boats within a day.
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UnSubRocky wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 10:51am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 9:55am:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 9:51am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 9:49am:
It is a mistake to impose European and Judeo-Christian morals on primitive peoples who existed without them for thousands of years.


Aboriginals never embraced Judeo Christian ideals of genocide. That's not the point.  Different people, different country, and there's no evidence what you said is true

Do you think ancient migratory peoples, in small family groups, got their food from ancient supermarkets?

How do you think seafaring migratory people survived at sea when the fish weren't biting?


I doubt that they did much fishing whilst at sea. And, by the seems of things, the distance between Australia and New Guinea would have been hundreds of kilometres away that the indigenous Australians' ancestors would have crossed in a day. Even today, with higher sea levels, people could cross that in paddle boats within a day.

How successful would their hunting and gathering have been to sustain migrators all time time? And never mind when they colonised the continent.

Did they have 40,000 years without famine?
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by killing half the women and eating most of the children
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How successful would their hunting and gathering have been to sustain migrators all time time? And never mind when they colonised the continent.

Did they have 40,000 years without famine?


From what I have learned from school to adulthood on aboriginal existence prior to European colonisation, indigenous people lived a hunter-gatherer life with about 1 million people spread across the country. They managed to hunt and gather their food in proportion to what they needed for the day.

And I would understand that the bulk of their diet would have consisted of eating fruits and lizards just to sustain themselves. Hunting a kangaroo would have been a weekly event at least. I dare say that when the food ran out, they would move on to new areas.
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Reply #222 - May 23rd, 2022 at 11:15am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 11:12am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 11:05am:
How successful would their hunting and gathering have been to sustain migrators all time time? And never mind when they colonised the continent.

Did they have 40,000 years without famine?


From what I have learned from school to adulthood on aboriginal existence prior to European colonisation, indigenous people lived a hunter-gatherer life with about 1 million people spread across the country. They managed to hunt and gather their food in proportion to what they needed for the day.

And I would understand that the bulk of their diet would have consisted of eating fruits and lizards just to sustain themselves. Hunting a kangaroo would have been a weekly event at least. I dare say that when the food ran out, they would move on to new areas.

So you actually believe that, despite famine and catastrophic weather and fires that have affected every society that ever existed, didn't happen to aboriginal peoples in Australia, ever?
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When Europeans first settled in Australia in 1788, they encountered an Aboriginal society of almost incredible barbarism and violence. This was the reality of what they found. The reasons for the violence and barbarism of Aboriginal society derive entirely, or almost entirely, from one factor alone. All of the Aborigines of Australia were hunter-gatherers who had not domesticated livestock nor grown crops for food. As a result, the lives of the hundreds of small tribes that constituted Aboriginal society were engaged in a never-ending struggle to find what food they could from what little existed on this continent. Directly because of this central fact, it was absolutely necessary to keep the size of each tribe small enough for its members to be kept alive by what food and other sustenance they could find. It was therefore absolutely necessary for them to avoid adding any excess mouths to feed to the limited numbers who could be kept alive by the methods of hunter-gatherers in the Dry Continent. They did this by systematically eliminating the excess mouths.

Probably the most important method of eliminating these excess mouths was infanticide, as Ludwik Krzywicki detailed in his 1934 anthropological study Primitive Society and Its Vital Statistics.1 Deliberate infanticide existed throughout Aboriginal society, and it was practised by nearly all of the Aboriginal tribes in Australia. “Horrible tales were told about it. R. Oberlander was shown a woman who had murdered ten children.” Elderly women from the Dieri (Diyari) tribe admitted to South Australian mounted policeman Samuel Gason “of having disposed in this manner of two to four of their offspring: in this way, about 30% of new-born infants perished at the hands of their mothers in the Lake Eyre district”. Among the Narrinyeri (Ngarrindjeri) of the lower Murray district, “more than one half of the children fell victim to this atrocious custom”; the Congregationalist missionary George Taplin “knew several women who had murdered two or three of their new-born children”. Mounted policeman William Henry Willshire:

says of the parts of Central Australia known to him, that at least 60% of the women committed infanticide. He tells of one woman that she had five children, three of whom she murdered immediately after birth, and she explained in her broken English: “me bin keepem one boy and one girl, no good keepem mob, him to[o] much wantem tuckout!” Therefore the women of the bush daily murder their children and do not wish to raise more than two
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Reply #224 - May 23rd, 2022 at 11:58am
 
Boris wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 11:25am:
When Europeans first settled in Australia in 1788, they encountered an Aboriginal society of almost incredible barbarism and violence. This was the reality of what they found. The reasons for the violence and barbarism of Aboriginal society derive entirely, or almost entirely, from one factor alone. All of the Aborigines of Australia were hunter-gatherers who had not domesticated livestock nor grown crops for food. As a result, the lives of the hundreds of small tribes that constituted Aboriginal society were engaged in a never-ending struggle to find what food they could from what little existed on this continent. Directly because of this central fact, it was absolutely necessary to keep the size of each tribe small enough for its members to be kept alive by what food and other sustenance they could find. It was therefore absolutely necessary for them to avoid adding any excess mouths to feed to the limited numbers who could be kept alive by the methods of hunter-gatherers in the Dry Continent. They did this by systematically eliminating the excess mouths.

Probably the most important method of eliminating these excess mouths was infanticide, as Ludwik Krzywicki detailed in his 1934 anthropological study Primitive Society and Its Vital Statistics.1 Deliberate infanticide existed throughout Aboriginal society, and it was practised by nearly all of the Aboriginal tribes in Australia. “Horrible tales were told about it. R. Oberlander was shown a woman who had murdered ten children.” Elderly women from the Dieri (Diyari) tribe admitted to South Australian mounted policeman Samuel Gason “of having disposed in this manner of two to four of their offspring: in this way, about 30% of new-born infants perished at the hands of their mothers in the Lake Eyre district”. Among the Narrinyeri (Ngarrindjeri) of the lower Murray district, “more than one half of the children fell victim to this atrocious custom”; the Congregationalist missionary George Taplin “knew several women who had murdered two or three of their new-born children”. Mounted policeman William Henry Willshire:

says of the parts of Central Australia known to him, that at least 60% of the women committed infanticide. He tells of one woman that she had five children, three of whom she murdered immediately after birth, and she explained in her broken English: “me bin keepem one boy and one girl, no good keepem mob, him to[o] much wantem tuckout!” Therefore the women of the bush daily murder their children and do not wish to raise more than two


All of this is bullshit.  You are a stupid front bottom. 
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Reply #225 - May 23rd, 2022 at 12:06pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 11:15am:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 11:12am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 11:05am:
How successful would their hunting and gathering have been to sustain migrators all time time? And never mind when they colonised the continent.

Did they have 40,000 years without famine?


From what I have learned from school to adulthood on aboriginal existence prior to European colonisation, indigenous people lived a hunter-gatherer life with about 1 million people spread across the country. They managed to hunt and gather their food in proportion to what they needed for the day.

And I would understand that the bulk of their diet would have consisted of eating fruits and lizards just to sustain themselves. Hunting a kangaroo would have been a weekly event at least. I dare say that when the food ran out, they would move on to new areas.

So you actually believe that, despite famine and catastrophic weather and fires that have affected every society that ever existed, didn't happen to aboriginal peoples in Australia, ever?


If you are going more than a few days without sufficient food, famine arises. I dare say that would be when the indigenous would move to another part of the region. And, of course, catastrophic weather and fires were a big part of indigenous life.
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Reply #226 - May 23rd, 2022 at 12:13pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 11:58am:
Boris wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 11:25am:
When Europeans first settled in Australia in 1788, they encountered an Aboriginal society of almost incredible barbarism and violence. This was the reality of what they found. The reasons for the violence and barbarism of Aboriginal society derive entirely, or almost entirely, from one factor alone. All of the Aborigines of Australia were hunter-gatherers who had not domesticated livestock nor grown crops for food. As a result, the lives of the hundreds of small tribes that constituted Aboriginal society were engaged in a never-ending struggle to find what food they could from what little existed on this continent. Directly because of this central fact, it was absolutely necessary to keep the size of each tribe small enough for its members to be kept alive by what food and other sustenance they could find. It was therefore absolutely necessary for them to avoid adding any excess mouths to feed to the limited numbers who could be kept alive by the methods of hunter-gatherers in the Dry Continent. They did this by systematically eliminating the excess mouths.

Probably the most important method of eliminating these excess mouths was infanticide, as Ludwik Krzywicki detailed in his 1934 anthropological study Primitive Society and Its Vital Statistics.1 Deliberate infanticide existed throughout Aboriginal society, and it was practised by nearly all of the Aboriginal tribes in Australia. “Horrible tales were told about it. R. Oberlander was shown a woman who had murdered ten children.” Elderly women from the Dieri (Diyari) tribe admitted to South Australian mounted policeman Samuel Gason “of having disposed in this manner of two to four of their offspring: in this way, about 30% of new-born infants perished at the hands of their mothers in the Lake Eyre district”. Among the Narrinyeri (Ngarrindjeri) of the lower Murray district, “more than one half of the children fell victim to this atrocious custom”; the Congregationalist missionary George Taplin “knew several women who had murdered two or three of their new-born children”. Mounted policeman William Henry Willshire:

says of the parts of Central Australia known to him, that at least 60% of the women committed infanticide. He tells of one woman that she had five children, three of whom she murdered immediately after birth, and she explained in her broken English: “me bin keepem one boy and one girl, no good keepem mob, him to[o] much wantem tuckout!” Therefore the women of the bush daily murder their children and do not wish to raise more than two


All of this is bullshit.  You are a stupid front bottom. 


You have some alternative historical reports?  We're all ears.....
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Reply #227 - May 23rd, 2022 at 12:17pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 11:58am:
Boris wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 11:25am:
When Europeans first settled in Australia in 1788, they encountered an Aboriginal society of almost incredible barbarism and violence. This was the reality of what they found. The reasons for the violence and barbarism of Aboriginal society derive entirely, or almost entirely, from one factor alone. All of the Aborigines of Australia were hunter-gatherers who had not domesticated livestock nor grown crops for food. As a result, the lives of the hundreds of small tribes that constituted Aboriginal society were engaged in a never-ending struggle to find what food they could from what little existed on this continent. Directly because of this central fact, it was absolutely necessary to keep the size of each tribe small enough for its members to be kept alive by what food and other sustenance they could find. It was therefore absolutely necessary for them to avoid adding any excess mouths to feed to the limited numbers who could be kept alive by the methods of hunter-gatherers in the Dry Continent. They did this by systematically eliminating the excess mouths.

Probably the most important method of eliminating these excess mouths was infanticide, as Ludwik Krzywicki detailed in his 1934 anthropological study Primitive Society and Its Vital Statistics.1 Deliberate infanticide existed throughout Aboriginal society, and it was practised by nearly all of the Aboriginal tribes in Australia. “Horrible tales were told about it. R. Oberlander was shown a woman who had murdered ten children.” Elderly women from the Dieri (Diyari) tribe admitted to South Australian mounted policeman Samuel Gason “of having disposed in this manner of two to four of their offspring: in this way, about 30% of new-born infants perished at the hands of their mothers in the Lake Eyre district”. Among the Narrinyeri (Ngarrindjeri) of the lower Murray district, “more than one half of the children fell victim to this atrocious custom”; the Congregationalist missionary George Taplin “knew several women who had murdered two or three of their new-born children”. Mounted policeman William Henry Willshire:

says of the parts of Central Australia known to him, that at least 60% of the women committed infanticide. He tells of one woman that she had five children, three of whom she murdered immediately after birth, and she explained in her broken English: “me bin keepem one boy and one girl, no good keepem mob, him to[o] much wantem tuckout!” Therefore the women of the bush daily murder their children and do not wish to raise more than two


All of this is bullshit.  You are a stupid front bottom. 


What a fool you are

It is all true - it is all fact - it is all history

I have seen it in the NT
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Reply #228 - May 23rd, 2022 at 12:19pm
 
Boris wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 12:17pm:
What a fool you are

It is all true - it is all fact - it is all history

I have seen it in the NT


You saw it all in the NT.  And didn't tell anyone.

HAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!
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You have some alternative historical reports?  We're all ears.....


Yes, the sort of history in books, not boomer memes
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Reply #230 - May 23rd, 2022 at 12:22pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 12:19pm:
Boris wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 12:17pm:
What a fool you are

It is all true - it is all fact - it is all history

I have seen it in the NT


You saw it all in the NT.  And didn't tell anyone.

HAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!


His posts on OzPol indicate that he likes to tell EVERYONE about his experience.
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Infanticide is a big problem in the NT

It is well know - but you city idiots do not see reality
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Infanticide is a big problem in the NT

It is well know - but you city idiots do not see reality


Yes, random internet person.  I believe you.
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I agree.  Right wing scum are scum.

This literally says we need to listen to Aboriginal people more, empower them and listen to them.  IT doesn't say they are all evil child rapists.  Did you read it?

When did we move from infanticide to rape? You just making poo up?
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I worked in the Health Department in the NT and saw the violence and crime in the NT in multiple hospitals and towns and communities.

I never saw you there

I know what I saw
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Infanticide is a big problem in the NT

It is well know - but you city idiots do not see reality

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https://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2007/s1865196.htm

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Reporter: Tanya Nolan
ELEANOR HALL: More Indigenous children are being removed from their families now than during the discredited days of the stolen children era.

That's just one of the disturbing findings made by Australian author, Louis Nowra, in his new essay on violence against women and children in Aboriginal communities.

Drawing on government reports, Mr Nowra has found that despite more public scrutiny, the problem is getting worse, not better, with Indigenous women now facing more attacks from Indigenous men and more brutal forms of violence than they were seven years ago.

Tanya Nolan has more.

TANYA NOLAN: The statistics that go with Aboriginal domestic violence and abuse are still high and still harrowing.

Aboriginal boys are eight to ten times more likely to be assaulted than non-Aboriginal boys

One third of 13-year-old girls in the Northern Territory have the venereal diseases chlamydia and gonorrhoea.

Author and playwright Louis Nowra collates and documents these facts in his book Bad Dreaming, a book born of his own experiences of domestic violence.

LOUIS NOWRA: You see, I'm a working-class boy brought up in a Housing Commission estate, so I was brought up with domestic violence.

TANYA NOLAN: His conclusions are that domestic violence and abuse against Aboriginal women and children is on the rise and has become more vicious.

LOUIS NOWRA: Since 1999, there have been about 40 reports on domestic violence and child abuse in Aboriginal communities. Each one confirms that the violence is escalating and is becoming more vicious.

TANYA NOLAN: What do you mean more vicious?

LOUIS NOWRA: Well, the instruments used in attacking the women, used to be just fists and bits of wood and now it's metal, pieces of brick, concrete and anything a guy can get his hands on, and allied to this has been the escalation of gang rape, and this has been proved.

TANYA NOLAN: The book is littered with examples.

Take Palipuaminni, a woman promised to her husband soon after she was born - she complained to health workers 29 times about her husband's violence toward her, which included whipping, kicking her while she was pregnant, stabbing her with scissors and scalding her.

The abuse lead to her death, and Palipuaminni's husband was eventually sentenced to six and a half years in jail after his charge was reduced from murder to manslaughter.

Professor of Indigenous Policy at Griffith University, Bonnie Robertson, wrote a seminal report on the state of domestic violence and abuse in Indigenous communities in 1999.

She agrees with Louis Nowra that little has changed.

BONNIE ROBERTSON: I think that there are actually tertiary consequences now. You now have situations where the mother and often the children are coping with violations that's seen, demonstrates in the behaviour of children, predominantly young boys, who have witnessed it, and some of the things that I've seen are absolutely terrifying.

TANYA NOALN: Louis Nowra states that "what is seldom publicly acknowledged is that Aboriginal children have been removed from toxic situations at alarmingly high levels".

In New South Wales in June 2000, just over a quarter of all children and young people in care were Indigenous.

LOUIS NOWRA: There are more Aboriginal children, at the moment, taken from their parents than there were at the height of assimilation, which was a government policy.

This is a bit of a secret, but this is how bad the situation has got. I quote Aboriginal people who are pleading, "please take more of our children out of these toxic situations" where there is permanently or semi-permanently forget about this notion of stolen generation.

This is about not assimilation, it is about rescuing children.

TANYA NOLAN: Wesley Aird, a member of the Prime Minister's National Indigenous Council says he knows he is at risk of being called assimilationist himself, but he agrees that children need to be removed from violent homes, as a last resort.

WESLEY AIRD: That safety should come ahead of any other notion of cultural attachment or kinship.

Kids should be removed from toxic, dangerous environments.


TYANYA NOLAN: Bad Dreaming points to the toxic influence of alcohol in Indigenous communities, highlighting it as an agent that fuels violence.

Wesley Aird says he doesn't believe just removing alcohol is the solution.

WESLEY AIRD: It's difficult to expect a community to function well if you're imposing conditions on it.

The community has to be a part of the solution.

TANYA NOLAN: What about when you have communities that are structured and governed by Aboriginal elders, who are often the perpetrators of violence and abuse against women and children?

WESLEY AIRD: That's a very unfortunate circumstance, but in a lot of cases, there's government funding providers, service providers that allow the wool to be pulled over their eyes, and they continue to fund the perpetrators.

TANYA NOLAN: Any account of Indigenous despair is complex in its layers and reasoning, but Louis Nowra is unequivocal about where the problem lies.

LOUIS NOWRA: It does need Aboriginal men to take the initiative, not women.

ELEANOR HALL: That's Louis Nowra, the author of Bad Dreaming, speaking to Tanya Nolan.
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UnSubRocky wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 12:06pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 11:15am:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 11:12am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 11:05am:
How successful would their hunting and gathering have been to sustain migrators all time time? And never mind when they colonised the continent.

Did they have 40,000 years without famine?


From what I have learned from school to adulthood on aboriginal existence prior to European colonisation, indigenous people lived a hunter-gatherer life with about 1 million people spread across the country. They managed to hunt and gather their food in proportion to what they needed for the day.

And I would understand that the bulk of their diet would have consisted of eating fruits and lizards just to sustain themselves. Hunting a kangaroo would have been a weekly event at least. I dare say that when the food ran out, they would move on to new areas.

So you actually believe that, despite famine and catastrophic weather and fires that have affected every society that ever existed, didn't happen to aboriginal peoples in Australia, ever?


If you are going more than a few days without sufficient food, famine arises. I dare say that would be when the indigenous would move to another part of the region. And, of course, catastrophic weather and fires were a big part of indigenous life.

Just move to another region, eh; having not eaten in days or weeks.

Or maybe aliens dumped sacks of flour and sugar from spaceships for them.

I've listened to Noel Pearson discuss the notion of aboriginal famine culture (similar to cultures across Asia).

It may not be palatable, but every human group would practise cannibalism if the conditions for survival demanded it (i.e. the death of a few to ensure the survival of the many).

Remember the story of the Brazilian rugby team members that found themselves stuck in the Andes after their plane crashed.
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What the f'k are you talking 'bout Meister?

It is not like indigenous Australians were complete imbeciles that rely on other people to feed them, back in the pre-colonial period. There might be elements of this dependency these days among some of them. But, back when they had to look after themselves, they would eat enough to survive and then move around according to the weather. The Darumbal people of the Rockhampton region probably have ancestors going back several thousand years. Much of Australia can be survived if you acted with the elements and respected how nature unfolded.

I have survived on a survival course, myself. A few friends and myself doing a quasi-survival course out bush (near Shoalwater), back in the late 1990s. Go a week with rations. Put up your shelters. Improvise with tools you have. Enough water, or the means to collect and filter water -- yeah, okay we used a filter jug or two -- and you come back home all the wiser and willing to appreciate what you have in modern society.

I can bet that indigenous people were not dying out at the first sign of famine. They moved on and found new places to get their food.
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Boris wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 12:54pm:
https://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2007/s1865196.htm

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ELEANOR HALL: More Indigenous children are being removed from their families now than during the discredited days of the stolen children era.


Yes, we're removing kids because of racism.  Again
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Reply #241 - May 23rd, 2022 at 1:18pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 1:07pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 12:06pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 11:15am:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 11:12am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 11:05am:
How successful would their hunting and gathering have been to sustain migrators all time time? And never mind when they colonised the continent.

Did they have 40,000 years without famine?


From what I have learned from school to adulthood on aboriginal existence prior to European colonisation, indigenous people lived a hunter-gatherer life with about 1 million people spread across the country. They managed to hunt and gather their food in proportion to what they needed for the day.

And I would understand that the bulk of their diet would have consisted of eating fruits and lizards just to sustain themselves. Hunting a kangaroo would have been a weekly event at least. I dare say that when the food ran out, they would move on to new areas.

So you actually believe that, despite famine and catastrophic weather and fires that have affected every society that ever existed, didn't happen to aboriginal peoples in Australia, ever?


If you are going more than a few days without sufficient food, famine arises. I dare say that would be when the indigenous would move to another part of the region. And, of course, catastrophic weather and fires were a big part of indigenous life.

Just move to another region, eh; having not eaten in days or weeks.

Or maybe aliens dumped sacks of flour and sugar from spaceships for them.

I've listened to Noel Pearson discuss the notion of aboriginal famine culture (similar to cultures across Asia).

It may not be palatable, but every human group would practise cannibalism if the conditions for survival demanded it (i.e. the death of a few to ensure the survival of the many).

Remember the story of the Brazilian rugby team members that found themselves stuck in the Andes after their plane crashed.


This is still bullshit.  Aboriginals were not in the Andes, they had all sorts of farming methods, they were not just hunter gatherers
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Yeah, indigenous racism. Their beliefs that they are above white man law.
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Yeah, indigenous racism. Their beliefs that they are above white man law.


If they think that, they will go to jail, obvs
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they were never farmers - just stone age cannibals and hunter gatherers

Farming - pffft what absolute BS
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Boris wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 1:24pm:
they were never farmers - just stone age cannibals and hunter gatherers

Farming - pffft what absolute BS


Read a smacking book in your life.  There's tons of historical records of Westerners noting they had farms, farmed fish, etc.

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No there isn't

Its all lies

A fish trap is not a farm you fool
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UnSubRocky wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 1:17pm:
What the f'k are you talking 'bout Meister?

It is not like indigenous Australians were complete imbeciles that rely on other people to feed them, back in the pre-colonial period. There might be elements of this dependency these days among some of them. But, back when they had to look after themselves, they would eat enough to survive and then move around according to the weather. The Darumbal people of the Rockhampton region probably have ancestors going back several thousand years. Much of Australia can be survived if you acted with the elements and respected how nature unfolded.

I have survived on a survival course, myself. A few friends and myself doing a quasi-survival course out bush (near Shoalwater), back in the late 1990s. Go a week with rations. Put up your shelters. Improvise with tools you have. Enough water, or the means to collect and filter water -- yeah, okay we used a filter jug or two -- and you come back home all the wiser and willing to appreciate what you have in modern society.

I can bet that indigenous people were not dying out at the first sign of famine. They moved on and found new places to get their food.

It's laughable how many cognitive acrobatics people will perform to get around the issue of cannibalism and its inevitability when conditions demand it.

It's like the stories parents tell their children about the family pet (that's been euthanised) - having gone to live on a farm; a comfortable lie to spare a child the trauma of facing one of life's inevitabilities.
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FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 1:18pm:
This is still bullshit.  Aboriginals were not in the Andes, they had all sorts of farming methods, they were not just hunter gatherers

Are you a millennial or a Gen Z?
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Meister, for the record, I have already agreed with Boris that cannibalism was practised in indigenous communities in the 20th century.
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No there isn't

Its all lies

A fish trap is not a farm you fool


Future is right on this. There was evidence of farming by indigenous. Corraling animals to a certain area was also a thing.
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BS
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Meister, for the record, I have already agreed with Boris that cannibalism was practised in indigenous communities in the 20th century.


Based on what evidence?
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UnSubRocky wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 1:35pm:
Boris wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 1:30pm:
No there isn't

Its all lies

A fish trap is not a farm you fool


Future is right on this. There was evidence of farming by indigenous. Corraling animals to a certain area was also a thing.


Certainly complex fish farming
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crap


A compelling argument!!!
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Stone age savages who raped murdered and ate children

Never built a house or domesticated an animal never did anything

50,000 years and all they did was make a fart noise down a hollow log
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Boris wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 1:52pm:
Stone age savages who raped murdered and ate children

Never built a house or domesticated an animal never did anything

50,000 years and all they did was make a fart noise down a hollow log


None of this is true LOL.  It's true they didn't domesticate horses or cows. They didn't have any LOL!!
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Stone age savages who raped murdered and ate children - and still do

Never built a house or domesticated an animal never did anything - FACT

50,000 years and all they did was make a fart noise down a hollow log - FACT
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Boris wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 2:15pm:
Stone age savages who raped murdered and ate children - and still do

Never built a house or domesticated an animal never did anything - FACT

50,000 years and all they did was make a fart noise down a hollow log - FACT


The deluded opinions of ignorant racist boomers have literally no consequence on society
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TANYA NOLAN: His conclusions are that domestic violence and abuse against Aboriginal women and children is on the rise and has become more vicious.

LOUIS NOWRA: Since 1999, there have been about 40 reports on domestic violence and child abuse in Aboriginal communities. Each one confirms that the violence is escalating and is becoming more vicious.

TANYA NOLAN: What do you mean more vicious?

LOUIS NOWRA: Well, the instruments used in attacking the women, used to be just fists and bits of wood and now it's metal, pieces of brick, concrete and anything a guy can get his hands on, and allied to this has been the escalation of gang rape, and this has been proved.

TANYA NOLAN: The book is littered with examples.

Take Palipuaminni, a woman promised to her husband soon after she was born - she complained to health workers 29 times about her husband's violence toward her, which included whipping, kicking her while she was pregnant, stabbing her with scissors and scalding her.

The abuse lead to her death, and Palipuaminni's husband was eventually sentenced to six and a half years in jail after his charge was reduced from murder to manslaughter.

Professor of Indigenous Policy at Griffith University, Bonnie Robertson, wrote a seminal report on the state of domestic violence and abuse in Indigenous communities in 1999.

She agrees with Louis Nowra that little has changed.

BONNIE ROBERTSON: I think that there are actually tertiary consequences now. You now have situations where the mother and often the children are coping with violations that's seen, demonstrates in the behaviour of children, predominantly young boys, who have witnessed it, and some of the things that I've seen are absolutely terrifying.

TANYA NOALN: Louis Nowra states that "what is seldom publicly acknowledged is that Aboriginal children have been removed from toxic situations at alarmingly high levels".

In New South Wales in June 2000, just over a quarter of all children and young people in care were Indigenous.

LOUIS NOWRA: There are more Aboriginal children, at the moment, taken from their parents than there were at the height of assimilation, which was a government policy.

This is a bit of a secret, but this is how bad the situation has got. I quote Aboriginal people who are pleading, "please take more of our children out of these toxic situations" where there is permanently or semi-permanently forget about this notion of stolen generation.

This is about not assimilation, it is about rescuing children.

TANYA NOLAN: Wesley Aird, a member of the Prime Minister's National Indigenous Council says he knows he is at risk of being called assimilationist himself, but he agrees that children need to be removed from violent homes, as a last resort.

WESLEY AIRD: That safety should come ahead of any other notion of cultural attachment or kinship.

Kids should be removed from toxic, dangerous environments.


TYANYA NOLAN: Bad Dreaming points to the toxic influence of alcohol in Indigenous communities, highlighting it as an agent that fuels violence.

Wesley Aird says he doesn't believe just removing alcohol is the solution.

WESLEY AIRD: It's difficult to expect a community to function well if you're imposing conditions on it.

The community has to be a part of the solution.

TANYA NOLAN: What about when you have communities that are structured and governed by Aboriginal elders, who are often the perpetrators of violence and abuse against women and children?

WESLEY AIRD: That's a very unfortunate circumstance, but in a lot of cases, there's government funding providers, service providers that allow the wool to be pulled over their eyes, and they continue to fund the perpetrators.

TANYA NOLAN: Any account of Indigenous despair is complex in its layers and reasoning, but Louis Nowra is unequivocal about where the problem lies.

LOUIS NOWRA: It does need Aboriginal men to take the initiative, not women.

ELEANOR HALL: That's Louis Nowra, the author of Bad Dreaming, speaking to Tanya Nolan.
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FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 2:17pm:
Boris wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 2:15pm:
Stone age savages who raped murdered and ate children - and still do

Never built a house or domesticated an animal never did anything - FACT

50,000 years and all they did was make a fart noise down a hollow log - FACT


The deluded opinions of ignorant racist boomers have literally no consequence on society


OK smartarse

Go to Tennant Creek and work in the Hospital and see for yourself.

Go live there for 2 years and then you can talk to to me you ignorant buffoon
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Boris wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 2:20pm:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 2:17pm:
Boris wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 2:15pm:
Stone age savages who raped murdered and ate children - and still do

Never built a house or domesticated an animal never did anything - FACT

50,000 years and all they did was make a fart noise down a hollow log - FACT


The deluded opinions of ignorant racist boomers have literally no consequence on society


OK smartarse

Go to Tennant Creek and work in the Hospital and see for yourself.

Go live there for 2 years and then you can talk to to me you ignorant buffoon


LOL!! OK boomer
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FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 2:17pm:
Boris wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 2:15pm:
Stone age savages who raped murdered and ate children - and still do

Never built a house or domesticated an animal never did anything - FACT

50,000 years and all they did was make a fart noise down a hollow log - FACT


The deluded opinions of ignorant racist boomers have literally no consequence on society



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Poor, poor, Matty.  Your Racism comes to the fore.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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No matter if I am winning or losing a debate, no one ever calls me racist, simply because I am not
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Bobby. wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 2:39pm:



No matter if I am winning or losing a debate, no one ever calls me racist, simply because I am not



You are a racist - you're against White people.
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Bobby. wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 2:39pm:



No matter if I am winning or losing a debate, no one ever calls me racist, simply because I am not



You are a racist - you're against White people.


I reiterate, right wing garbage assume not hating black people, is hating white people.  Not hating anyone does not occur to them

I'll give you $500 for every post I've made on these forums, 'hating white people'.  Show me.
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FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 3:10pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 3:09pm:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 3:01pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 2:39pm:



No matter if I am winning or losing a debate, no one ever calls me racist, simply because I am not



You are a racist - you're against White people.


I reiterate, right wing garbage assume not hating black people, is hating white people.  Not hating anyone does not occur to them

I'll give you $500 for every post I've made on these forums, 'hating white people'.  Show me.



You're a racist because you spend too much time calling White people racists.
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 17th, 2022 at 12:50am:
Ooooh!  Inadvertent racism - as in when a Musso sees you and wonders YTF you are in his neighbourhood?  Like when an Abo wants to know why you're here, Whitey?  Like when you stroll through Vietnamatta and stand out in the crowd??

Maybe I missed something....

Let's try for unconscious racism... you know... like unconscious White privilege.... we Whartes don't even know how much better we get it, eh?

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You've got more than the Blacks, don't complain.....
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Or you're just a racist front bottom? LOL!!!
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Reply #270 - May 23rd, 2022 at 3:33pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 2:46pm:
https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223...

Poor, poor, Matty.  Your Racism comes to the fore.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The thing about Brian
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2 Omnipotence - the knower of all things
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Reply #271 - May 23rd, 2022 at 3:52pm
 
John Howard called out the army because of all the Aborigines raping and murdering women and children
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Reply #272 - May 23rd, 2022 at 4:00pm
 
Boris wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 3:52pm:
John Howard called out the army because of all the Aborigines raping and murdering women and children


He did it to get votes from racist boomer scum.
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Reply #273 - May 23rd, 2022 at 4:05pm
 
Boris wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 3:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 2:46pm:
https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223...

Poor, poor, Matty.  Your Racism comes to the fore.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The thing about Brian
1 Grandiosity - he is just so clever and superior
2 Omnipotence - the knower of all things
3 Devaluation - others who disagree with his great all knowing all wise mind are inferior creatures.

To put it bluntly - Brian is a textbook Narcissist and to be avoided by all means



Brian is superior to us:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1622526696

Brian,
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I have a Bachelor degree with honours, a Masters Degree and a Doctor of Divinity degree.
In some aspects I am superior to many posters here.   Tsk, tsk...    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #274 - May 23rd, 2022 at 4:12pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 4:00pm:
Boris wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 3:52pm:
John Howard called out the army because of all the Aborigines raping and murdering women and children


He did it to get votes from racist boomer scum.


He did it because Aborigine men were raping and murdering Aboriginal women and children
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Reply #275 - May 23rd, 2022 at 4:13pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 4:05pm:
Boris wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 3:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 2:46pm:
https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223...

Poor, poor, Matty.  Your Racism comes to the fore.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The thing about Brian
1 Grandiosity - he is just so clever and superior
2 Omnipotence - the knower of all things
3 Devaluation - others who disagree with his great all knowing all wise mind are inferior creatures.

To put it bluntly - Brian is a textbook Narcissist and to be avoided by all means



Brian is superior to us:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1622526696

Brian,
Quote:
I have a Bachelor degree with honours, a Masters Degree and a Doctor of Divinity degree.
In some aspects I am superior to many posters here.   Tsk, tsk...    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


The thing about Brian
1 Grandiosity - he is just so clever and superior
2 Omnipotence - the knower of all things
3 Devaluation - others who disagree with his great all knowing all wise mind are inferior creatures.

To put it bluntly - Brian is a textbook Narcissist and to be avoided by all means

GOD - Grandiosity, Omnipotence and Devaluation Blind Freddy can see it
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Reply #276 - May 23rd, 2022 at 4:41pm
 
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Poor, poor, Matty.  Still not taking your loss all that well, are you?  Australia chose a new Government.  Good on them for choosing sensible.   Grin Cool Smiley
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Sensible?

The last thing Labor is is sensible

Whackadoodles more like it

At least Keneally is gone
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Reply #278 - May 23rd, 2022 at 4:53pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 4:41pm:
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Poor, poor, Matty.  Still not take your lose all that well, are you?  Australia chose a new Government.  Good on them for choosing sensible.   Grin Cool Smiley


The thing about Brian
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Reply #279 - May 23rd, 2022 at 4:55pm
 
Boris wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 4:52pm:
Sensible?

The last thing Labor is is sensible

Whackadoodles more like it

At least Keneally is gone


You're still crying about race mixing?
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Reply #280 - May 23rd, 2022 at 5:27pm
 
Boris wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 4:53pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 4:41pm:
https://emojipedia-us.s3.dualstack.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/thumbs/120/google/223...

Poor, poor, Matty.  Still not taking your loss all that well, are you?  Australia chose a new Government.  Good on them for choosing sensible.   Grin Cool Smiley


The thing about Brian
1 Grandiosity - he is just so clever and superior
2 Omnipotence - the knower of all things
3 Devaluation - others who disagree with his great all knowing all wise mind are inferior creatures.

To put it bluntly - Brian is a textbook Narcissist


...

The only narcissist around here is you, Matty, still not handling your loss all that well, are you?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #281 - May 23rd, 2022 at 5:31pm
 
Some here are clearly racist given their hatred of Old White Men who built the joint....maybe we should just hang a few .... let the rest consider their options...put 'em in the Reverse Boat People Policy....

Sometimes I think the world was better off automatically sending the lesser types down the tubes via preventable illness etc, all of which was fixed by Old White Men... not to mention the fertile fields of life in which all these hate ideologies, such as feminism, Aboism, and all the others, thrive so very well.

Racist haters all of them. Time to pull the plug on them all.
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Reply #282 - May 23rd, 2022 at 6:02pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 1:40pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 1:34pm:
Meister, for the record, I have already agreed with Boris that cannibalism was practised in indigenous communities in the 20th century.


Based on what evidence?


Based on the recorded witness statements made by people who claim to have seen the practice take place (many decades ago) and by admissions of indigenous people who have said that cannibalism was part of their ancestors' culture. There was a link I posted on another forum topic regarding this. Go do your own research on the topic.
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Reply #283 - May 23rd, 2022 at 6:12pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 6:02pm:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 1:40pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 1:34pm:
Meister, for the record, I have already agreed with Boris that cannibalism was practised in indigenous communities in the 20th century.


Based on what evidence?


Based on the recorded witness statements made by people who claim to have seen the practice take place (many decades ago) and by admissions of indigenous people who have said that cannibalism was part of their ancestors' culture. There was a link I posted on another forum topic regarding this. Go do your own research on the topic.


Literal bullshit lol.  Your first mistake is claiming aboriginals were one culture
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Reply #284 - May 23rd, 2022 at 6:13pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 5:31pm:
Some here are clearly racist given their hatred of Old White Men who built the joint....maybe we should just hang a few .... let the rest consider their options...put 'em in the Reverse Boat People Policy....

Sometimes I think the world was better off automatically sending the lesser types down the tubes via preventable illness etc, all of which was fixed by Old White Men... not to mention the fertile fields of life in which all these hate ideologies, such as feminism, Aboism, and all the others, thrive so very well.

Racist haters all of them. Time to pull the plug on them all.


I love that you're racist trash and you think people hate you for being white.  We hate you because you're a front bottom
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Reply #285 - May 23rd, 2022 at 7:16pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 6:12pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 6:02pm:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 1:40pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 1:34pm:
Meister, for the record, I have already agreed with Boris that cannibalism was practised in indigenous communities in the 20th century.


Based on what evidence?


Based on the recorded witness statements made by people who claim to have seen the practice take place (many decades ago) and by admissions of indigenous people who have said that cannibalism was part of their ancestors' culture. There was a link I posted on another forum topic regarding this. Go do your own research on the topic.


Literal bullshit lol.  Your first mistake is claiming aboriginals were one culture


How can something written be "literal bullshit"? You need to update your understanding of the word "literal". And another thing is the assumptions. I did not claim that all "aboriginals were one culture". I was talking about "cannibalism" being part of indigenous people's ancestral culture, for those that made admissions of such practice.
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Reply #286 - May 23rd, 2022 at 7:16pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 7:16pm:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 6:12pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 6:02pm:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 1:40pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 1:34pm:
Meister, for the record, I have already agreed with Boris that cannibalism was practised in indigenous communities in the 20th century.


Based on what evidence?


Based on the recorded witness statements made by people who claim to have seen the practice take place (many decades ago) and by admissions of indigenous people who have said that cannibalism was part of their ancestors' culture. There was a link I posted on another forum topic regarding this. Go do your own research on the topic.


Literal bullshit lol.  Your first mistake is claiming aboriginals were one culture


How can something written be "literal bullshit"? You need to update your understanding of the word "literal". And another thing is the assumptions. I did not claim that all "aboriginals were one culture". I was talking about "cannibalism" being part of indigenous people's ancestral culture, for those that made admissions of such practice.


You created words, with a literal meaning LOL!! Go back to school
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Reply #287 - May 23rd, 2022 at 7:50pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 6:13pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 5:31pm:
Some here are clearly racist given their hatred of Old White Men who built the joint....maybe we should just hang a few .... let the rest consider their options...put 'em in the Reverse Boat People Policy....

Sometimes I think the world was better off automatically sending the lesser types down the tubes via preventable illness etc, all of which was fixed by Old White Men... not to mention the fertile fields of life in which all these hate ideologies, such as feminism, Aboism, and all the others, thrive so very well.

Racist haters all of them. Time to pull the plug on them all.


I love that you're racist trash and you think people hate you for being white.  We hate you because you're a front bottom



And clearly from your rabid hatred of Old White Men you are a racist piece of excrement.  Nobody I know hates me - what makes you think I give a rat's about you?  Who's this 'we' White Man?

You must be thirteen years old and feeling your oats... not even old enough to fight the war your stupid kind are bringing down on us all by sucking up to tyrants ... just another gutless, mindless twerp who has never achieved one thing....

Wonder how long you'll last using insult instead of a supported argument given politely, you asshole.
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Reply #288 - May 23rd, 2022 at 7:52pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 7:50pm:
Nobody I know hates me



it's the one you don't know that hate you that you need to worry about Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
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Reply #289 - May 23rd, 2022 at 7:54pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 7:50pm:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 6:13pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 5:31pm:
Some here are clearly racist given their hatred of Old White Men who built the joint....maybe we should just hang a few .... let the rest consider their options...put 'em in the Reverse Boat People Policy....

Sometimes I think the world was better off automatically sending the lesser types down the tubes via preventable illness etc, all of which was fixed by Old White Men... not to mention the fertile fields of life in which all these hate ideologies, such as feminism, Aboism, and all the others, thrive so very well.

Racist haters all of them. Time to pull the plug on them all.


I love that you're racist trash and you think people hate you for being white.  We hate you because you're a front bottom



And clearly from your rabid hatred of Old White Men you are a racist piece of excrement.  Nobody I know hates me - what makes you think I give a rat's about you?  Who's this 'we' White Man?

You must be thirteen years old and feeling your oats... not even old enough to fight the war your stupid kind are bringing down on us all by sucking up to tyrants ... just another gutless, mindless twerp who has never achieved one thing....

Wonder how long you'll last using insult instead of a supported argument given politely, you asshole.


I am sure everyone in the nursing home finds your racist rants adorable.  SOCIETY hates you.  Look at the election result.

I am 53, LOL!!!

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There are 8 habitable Regions of the World:
Europe, Middle-East, Asia, North America
Africa, Sahul, Oceania, South America

There are 8 puritant Races of the World:
Blue, Brown, Yellow, Red
Black, White, Grey, Green

Each of the 8 Regions needs a representation of each of the 8 Races... that's 'equality'.
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Reply #291 - May 23rd, 2022 at 8:32pm
 
Jasin wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 8:00pm:
There are 8 habitable Regions of the World:
Europe, Middle-East, Asia, North America
Africa, Sahul, Oceania, South America

There are 8 puritant Races of the World:
Blue, Brown, Yellow, Red
Black, White, Grey, Green

Each of the 8 Regions needs a representation of each of the 8 Races... that's 'equality'.


I am actually amused at old people screaming their Nazi theories and thinking anyone cares about them LOL

Again, this is why your grandkids hate you.

Who the bugger is grey?
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Reply #292 - May 23rd, 2022 at 8:36pm
 
Ja.Sin's back...... Sahul me down..... cut me off at the knees and call me Tripod......

My grand-kids and all the other kids adore me.... only a deluded fanatic would label every differing view as 'Nazi', while trying to apply Stalinist fair play to all others but those he/she considers his/her 'own'.

A combination of Ageist, Racist and Genderist is not a pretty sight .... more a sign of a very badly damaged mind and probably brain... a Yob... a Houso.... a fool who thinks insulting others will carry his argument.... more likely get him in prison or treated with the contempt he deserves...

Ja, Ja - the East Germans and Romanians had it all... sure they did..... and it wasn't the fault of the Communists that there were sanctions, and the Communists couldn't supply their needs.... NOOOOO - it was the fault of the West!!

That's why so many Romanians and Germans came to Australia after WW II and the Iron Curtain..... why so many sought to escape.....
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Reply #293 - May 23rd, 2022 at 8:45pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 8:32pm:
Jasin wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 8:00pm:
There are 8 habitable Regions of the World:
Europe, Middle-East, Asia, North America
Africa, Sahul, Oceania, South America

There are 8 puritant Races of the World:
Blue, Brown, Yellow, Red
Black, White, Grey, Green

Each of the 8 Regions needs a representation of each of the 8 Races... that's 'equality'.


I am actually amused at old people screaming their Nazi theories and thinking anyone cares about them LOL

Again, this is why your grandkids hate you.

Who the bugger is grey?


What are these old people and where has anyone 'screamed Nazi theories'?  You are utterly delusional. 

Get help. Here's 50c:-

...

Call someone who cares......

https://www.lifeline.org.au/
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Reply #294 - May 23rd, 2022 at 8:51pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 8:32pm:
Jasin wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 8:00pm:
There are 8 habitable Regions of the World:
Europe, Middle-East, Asia, North America
Africa, Sahul, Oceania, South America

There are 8 puritant Races of the World:
Blue, Brown, Yellow, Red
Black, White, Grey, Green

Each of the 8 Regions needs a representation of each of the 8 Races... that's 'equality'.


I am actually amused at old people screaming their Nazi theories and thinking anyone cares about them LOL

Again, this is why your grandkids hate you.

Who the bugger is grey?

In regards to NAZISM (The Jewish Frankenstein):
What did Jesus say to his Jewish people when they had him nailed to the Cross?
"Wait till me little brother Hitler gets yas!"
Angry
What goes around, comes around.

Grey: Raven-haired, pale skinned (or as the Amerindians used to call them 'Pale Face') - more associated with southern 'Latin' Europe (moving to Oceania)
Blue: Brunette, light skinned - associated with northern 'Skandi' Europe (now 2/3rds of European population)
Red: Red hair, fair skinned (Rangas) - associated with western 'Celtic' Europe (moved to N.America)
White: Blonde hair, white skinned - associated with eastern 'Slavic' Europe. (soon to be Sahulian <Oz>)

Wink
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Reply #295 - May 23rd, 2022 at 9:08pm
 
Jasin wrote on May 23rd, 2022 at 8:51pm:
In regards to NAZISM (The Jewish Frankenstein):
What did Jesus say to his Jewish people when they had him nailed to the Cross?
"Wait till me little brother Hitler gets yas!"
Angry
What goes around, comes around.

Grey: Raven-haired, pale skinned (or as the Amerindians used to call them 'Pale Face') - more associated with southern 'Latin' Europe (moving to Oceania)
Blue: Brunette, light skinned - associated with northern 'Skandi' Europe (now 2/3rds of European population)
Red: Red hair, fair skinned (Rangas) - associated with western 'Celtic' Europe (moved to N.America)
White: Blonde hair, white skinned - associated with eastern 'Slavic' Europe. (soon to be Sahulian <Oz>)

Off the pills, eh!
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They rape and murder children - even babies

They no longer eat them but did when I was young

Over them
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Boring, Matty, boring.  No evidence, no links, oh, oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Grandiose, Omnipotent and Devaluation

An absolute Narcissist

Everyone knows from all the Historical accounts they were Cannibals

In the News from the NT babies are being raped and murdered in vast numbers
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Boring, Matty, boring.  No evidence, no links, oh, oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #300 - May 24th, 2022 at 1:42pm
 
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Reply #301 - May 24th, 2022 at 3:52pm
 

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Reply #302 - May 24th, 2022 at 4:07pm
 
Brian is superior to us:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1622526696

Brian,
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I have a Bachelor degree with honours, a Masters Degree and a Doctor of Divinity degree.
In some aspects I am superior to many posters here.   Tsk, tsk...    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Brian -
God should know what he's doing.
How come God put the Black people in Africa and
he put the rest of us in all the White countries?
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Reply #303 - May 24th, 2022 at 4:42pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 24th, 2022 at 4:07pm:
Brian is superior to us:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1622526696

Brian,
Quote:
I have a Bachelor degree with honours, a Masters Degree and a Doctor of Divinity degree.
In some aspects I am superior to many posters here.   Tsk, tsk...    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Brian -
God should know what he's doing.
How come God put the Black people in Africa and
he put the rest of us in all the White countries?


I am interested in what racist and ignorat god you worship?

What makes you think 'white countries' were special?
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Reply #304 - May 24th, 2022 at 4:46pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 24th, 2022 at 4:42pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 24th, 2022 at 4:07pm:
Brian is superior to us:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1622526696

Brian,
Quote:
I have a Bachelor degree with honours, a Masters Degree and a Doctor of Divinity degree.
In some aspects I am superior to many posters here.   Tsk, tsk...    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Brian -
God should know what he's doing.
How come God put the Black people in Africa and
he put the rest of us in all the White countries?


I am interested in what racist and ignorant god you worship?

What makes you think 'white countries' were special?



I believe in the Abrahamic God in the Bible.

The White countries are not in Africa.
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Reply #305 - May 24th, 2022 at 4:47pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 24th, 2022 at 4:46pm:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 24th, 2022 at 4:42pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 24th, 2022 at 4:07pm:
Brian is superior to us:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1622526696

Brian,
Quote:
I have a Bachelor degree with honours, a Masters Degree and a Doctor of Divinity degree.
In some aspects I am superior to many posters here.   Tsk, tsk...    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Brian -
God should know what he's doing.
How come God put the Black people in Africa and
he put the rest of us in all the White countries?


I am interested in what racist and ignorant god you worship?

What makes you think 'white countries' were special?



I believe in the Abrahamic God in the Bible.

The White countries are not in Africa.


No you don't.  Your satan has a cock, for a start.  You're right wing and Jesus would vote Greens.  It's true that Africa is not a 'white country'.  So what?

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Reply #306 - May 27th, 2022 at 4:45pm
 
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Reply #307 - May 27th, 2022 at 9:57pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 24th, 2022 at 4:42pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 24th, 2022 at 4:07pm:
Brian is superior to us:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1622526696

Brian,
Quote:
I have a Bachelor degree with honours, a Masters Degree and a Doctor of Divinity degree.
In some aspects I am superior to many posters here.   Tsk, tsk...    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Brian -
God should know what he's doing.
How come God put the Black people in Africa and
he put the rest of us in all the White countries?


I am interested in what racist and ignorat god you worship?

What makes you think 'white countries' were special?

Er.. millions of non whites want migrate to them....

Why? Do explain. 

tsk, tsk   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #308 - May 27th, 2022 at 10:43pm
 
Frank wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 9:57pm:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 24th, 2022 at 4:42pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 24th, 2022 at 4:07pm:
Brian is superior to us:

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1622526696

Brian,
Quote:
I have a Bachelor degree with honours, a Masters Degree and a Doctor of Divinity degree.
In some aspects I am superior to many posters here.   Tsk, tsk...    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Brian -
God should know what he's doing.
How come God put the Black people in Africa and
he put the rest of us in all the White countries?


I am interested in what racist and ignorat god you worship?

What makes you think 'white countries' were special?

Er.. millions of non whites want migrate to them....

Why? Do explain. 

tsk, tsk   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin   

Yes.  Like politicians have it so hard - they are lining up to get a gig...... so we must be the worst country on earth to come to and live and prosper....... most of them would be living in mud huts and struggling for a few dates if they did not come here.....

All that racism going around... all in the fevered imaginations of a few educated idiots.... EVERY single Outlander I meet and know here is so happy to be here and is accepted ... and we're in 'the bush' where the Rednecks are like Bigfoot - supposed to be roaming free.... Out Here in Realityland we have Iranians, Abos, god only knows what else - and they are all neighbours and nothing more or less.

An absolute load of bullshit that Australians are racist in any way - that's merely a justification for the wrongdoing of certain groups and it's all lies....

Which reminds me - Lefty has packed it in for the weekend.... the office computer on his $26k salary is all he has to offer trolling.... some job when you have all the time in the world to troll all day...... just can't see how it adds up..... got a transgender son.... whoop-de-do ..... every trendy lie under the sun and takes in an easy $260k annually for sitting on a computer and trolling.......

FFS ..... shift change will bring mothra.... SSDD .....
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Reply #309 - May 27th, 2022 at 11:23pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 24th, 2022 at 4:47pm:
No you don't.  Your satan has a cock, for a start.  You're right wing and Jesus would vote Greens.  It's true that Africa is not a 'white country'.  So what?


Hmm. A 53-year-old-man who rants about boomers and old men! Whose posts are so easily torn apart!

A persona set up as an easy shot.

Someone's having a laugh.
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Reply #310 - May 27th, 2022 at 11:42pm
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 11:23pm:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 24th, 2022 at 4:47pm:
No you don't.  Your satan has a cock, for a start.  You're right wing and Jesus would vote Greens.  It's true that Africa is not a 'white country'.  So what?


Hmm. A 53-year-old-man who rants about boomers and old men! Whose posts are so easily torn apart!

A persona set up as an easy shot.

Someone's having a laugh.


Teenager for sure. Not much life experience.
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Reply #311 - May 28th, 2022 at 12:16am
 
Steampipe wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 11:42pm:
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 11:23pm:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 24th, 2022 at 4:47pm:
No you don't.  Your satan has a cock, for a start.  You're right wing and Jesus would vote Greens.  It's true that Africa is not a 'white country'.  So what?


Hmm. A 53-year-old-man who rants about boomers and old men! Whose posts are so easily torn apart!

A persona set up as an easy shot.

Someone's having a laugh.


Teenager for sure. Not much life experience.


I picked him for thirteen from day one..... but he's got two grown kids and one of them is transgender, and he takes in an easy $260k pa while sitting all day trolling....

Ol' Rastus has just GOT to gits himself one o' dose troll jobs... get outta dis here cotton fiel'.... suck down dat mint julip on dat front porch wit' da lady..... gits me a job full time in massa's big house!

P.S.  Oh, lordie, lordie!  The Boy has vanished on Friday - the school computers are shut down ........
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Reply #312 - May 28th, 2022 at 3:37am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 28th, 2022 at 12:16am:
I picked him for thirteen from day one..... but he's got two grown kids and one of them is transgender, and he takes in an easy $260k pa while sitting all day trolling....

Ol' Rastus has just GOT to gits himself one o' dose troll jobs... get outta dis here cotton fiel'.... suck down dat mint julip on dat front porch wit' da lady..... gits me a job full time in massa's big house!

P.S.  Oh, lordie, lordie!  The Boy has vanished on Friday - the school computers are shut down ........


I sat at the computer for 4 hours the other day typing responses to MoistPerson. He had to defend everything that was responded to him.

150 posts per day average is more than I would post in a week. If he does not get it now, he never will understand. Someone on $260,000 per year would be overwhelmed with other things that he can afford to keep him busy. Just Thursday gone, I was busy with mowing the lawn and then going to see a movie. Both things took about 3 hours total out of my day. I sleep about 8 hours of my day.

If I had a job that paid $1000 per day and $260,000 per year, I would not bother with a forum to defend trans people. I would be out and about trying to find ways to better my life. Being rich would mean being too busy enjoying life to bother with petty arguments.
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Reply #313 - May 28th, 2022 at 7:00am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 11:23pm:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 24th, 2022 at 4:47pm:
No you don't.  Your satan has a cock, for a start.  You're right wing and Jesus would vote Greens.  It's true that Africa is not a 'white country'.  So what?


Hmm. A 53-year-old-man who rants about boomers and old men! Whose posts are so easily torn apart!

A persona set up as an easy shot.

Someone's having a laugh.

I think it's someone who's walked among us for a while.

It's an old trick: set up an idiot anti-persona easy to smack around.

A Baldrick to a Blackadder wannabe!

Who here has also posted that he's 53, married with 2 kids?
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Reply #314 - May 28th, 2022 at 7:46am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on May 27th, 2022 at 11:23pm:
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on May 24th, 2022 at 4:47pm:
No you don't.  Your satan has a cock, for a start.  You're right wing and Jesus would vote Greens.  It's true that Africa is not a 'white country'.  So what?


Hmm. A 53-year-old-man who rants about boomers and old men! Whose posts are so easily torn apart!

A persona set up as an easy shot.

Someone's having a laugh.


Can't remember the name of the previous incarnation....... but it is definitely very familiar in all it's style of language & posting.

Seemed to have had a reasonable hiatus.
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Reply #315 - May 28th, 2022 at 7:51am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on May 28th, 2022 at 3:37am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 28th, 2022 at 12:16am:
I picked him for thirteen from day one..... but he's got two grown kids and one of them is transgender, and he takes in an easy $260k pa while sitting all day trolling....

Ol' Rastus has just GOT to gits himself one o' dose troll jobs... get outta dis here cotton fiel'.... suck down dat mint julip on dat front porch wit' da lady..... gits me a job full time in massa's big house!

P.S.  Oh, lordie, lordie!  The Boy has vanished on Friday - the school computers are shut down ........


I sat at the computer for 4 hours the other day typing responses to MoistPerson. He had to defend everything that was responded to him.

150 posts per day average is more than I would post in a week. If he does not get it now, he never will understand. Someone on $260,000 per year would be overwhelmed with other things that he can afford to keep him busy. Just Thursday gone, I was busy with mowing the lawn and then going to see a movie. Both things took about 3 hours total out of my day. I sleep about 8 hours of my day.

If I had a job that paid $1000 per day and $260,000 per year, I would not bother with a forum to defend trans people. I would be out and about trying to find ways to better my life. Being rich would mean being too busy enjoying life to bother with petty arguments.



Funny how regardless of the the time of day you sat down at the PC and responded to any of his/her posts - he/her posted back within seconds.

I found that a bit unusual for some high flyer being in such great demand for their services.

Surely they would be too busy?

Sounded more like someone who was maybe unemployed......

I know you can relate to that. Grin  Tongue
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Reply #316 - May 28th, 2022 at 12:37pm
 
Gnads wrote on May 28th, 2022 at 7:51am:
Sounded more like someone who was maybe unemployed......

I know you can relate to that. Grin  Tongue


Yeah, I know. I have a lot of free time being underemployed. And even then, I was amazed at how someone could type 150 posts per day. I think the most that I have ever posted was about 50 posts in one day. And yet, I have not the time to do more than that.

MoistPerson seems like a younger version of me. Even though he claims to be older than I.
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