The inner city soy latte sipping recreational drug taking LGBTQI called the Greens want to ban hunting.

The only species that non aboriginal hunters can legally shoot are the imported ferals like Pigs Goats Foxes Rabbits Camels along with wild dogs and feral cats. Recreational hunters cannot legally shoot native species.

What is the Greens plan for these ferals is it to sing kumbayah and hold hands while passing a joint while these feral species decimate our native species?

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The Greens will probably try to stop fishing next.

The Greens are a pox on Australia put them last or 2nd last with the Vegans from the Animal Justice Party on every ballot paper.

They have gone off the deep end.

How about infecting them with Feline leukemia.

Feral kittens cannot take over a territory so will likely die.

Softheads like Booby will prevent other real action on bloody cats.

Baronvonrort wrote on May 16^th, 2022 at 1:06am:


I guess idiots can’t grasp how the neutering would reduce cat numbers.

Shooting can’t make a dent in the feral cat population.

You are not that stupid that you think shooting reduces feral cat numbers do you?

If every female cat shot has had a litter, say 4 kittens then shooting that cat still leaves an increase of 4 feral cats. Young cats will fight to take over that territory and nothing is gained.

If every cat sired or bore a litter than shooting that cat does not reduce the number of feral cats.

You just went WAY down in my estimation of your intelligence—I do not think cats are cute, I leave that crap to softheads like you and Booby.

Cats have no place in Australia. Desex all domestic cats, prevent breeding of the damned things and apply a nuanced policy to eradicating feral cats. Just shooting SOME damn cats is pointless, is done for the gratification of meatheads like BarrelOfRot.

Jovial Monk wrote on May 18^th, 2022 at 7:24pm:


If every female cat bore a litter, we would soon be 6 feet deep in cats Monk.

Does reality ever enter into your argument?

https://bioone.org/journals/wildlife-research/volume-47/issue-7-8/WR20035/Is-cat

-hunting-by-Indigenous-tracking-experts-an-effective-way/10.1071/WR20035.short

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I doubt it. Rodent populations basically fluctuate with food levels. It was the wet weather that lead to the plague. Lots of grass seed etc for them to eat. We have plenty of predators snapping them up, but unless the plague goes on for long enough for them to breed up, it will be a food shortage that brings it to an end.

Bobby. wrote on May 18^th, 2022 at 9:14pm:


I think snakes eat mice, but not many.
We should infect all cats with Feline leukemia.

For the idiots:

If you shoot a feral cat that has had a litter of 4 kittens do you decrease the number of feral cats out there? Not really, one cat became five that became 4 when one was shot.

When a feral cat dies young cats will fight to take over the territory. If a feral cat is neutered and returned it will guard its territory so young cats cannot thrive.

A slightly complex idea, too complex for some idiots it appears! A similar program has radically reduced mosquito numbers in some places.


This program by itself is not enough. Want a cat? It must be desexed and you KEEP IT INSIDE! Have a netted enclosure with obstacles for the cat to climb.

Bobby. wrote on May 18^th, 2022 at 9:14pm:



snakes, kestrels, hawks, owls, eagles, goannas, quolls, foxes

Bobby. wrote on May 19^th, 2022 at 7:15pm:


You have dementia? Must be tough having dementia on top of idiocy!

Bobby. wrote on May 19^th, 2022 at 8:07pm:


Maybe monk could rupture their innards. He'd be a busy boy.

John Smith wrote on May 19^th, 2022 at 7:48pm:


Crows are probably the biggest predator. There are a lot of sick ones now that have eaten too much ratsak. I once saw a kookaburra take one from my yard.

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Did you ever make it out of primary school Monk?

freediver wrote on May 22^nd, 2022 at 1:31pm:



Monk reckons he has a BSc degree.      

Just use drones and drop grenades.

So shoot ONE feral cat, young cats then compete to take over its territory, losing cats have to move elsewhere, increasing the range of feral cats.

BRAVO FD! You want feral cats to breed and succeed and kill more and more native wildlife! Too bad about sustainability, eh?

ONLY way shooting can work—fence off an area, shoot/trap/poison all cats.

Getting rid of feral cats acre by acre. Australia is only a few acres in extent, eh?

Did shooting/trapping/baiting rabbits work? Did myxomatosis? Did calicivirus? But just shooting will get rid of feral cats?

FD, did you make it out of primary school? Did you learn about animal reproduction before you were kicked out of primary school? Just how low is your IQ?

Yup, one tomcat that fights to mate yet produces ZERO viable offspring—that will reduce feral cat numbers!

freediver wrote on Jun 4^th, 2022 at 11:48am:


It's a good thing Monk is an incel who never got the chance to breed we have enough stupid people without him adding to those numbers.

If you shoot a cat it cannot eat any more of our native species.

If we follow Monks idiocy trapping then doing s surgical procedure on cats at great expense then nursing them back to health and releasing them they continue to eat our native species until they die.

What Monk is proposing is expensive and does nothing to stop that cat from eating our endangered species.

This guy is a rabbit hunter he likes eating them. The Greens and idiots like Monk would prefer he stopped hunting and drive into town and buy his rabbits from Coles Woolies or a butcher. If Sean sees a feral cat while hunting rabbits he will shoot it and that cat would not be able to eat any more of our endangered species.

Cat in this video dealt with far cheaper than Mongs idiocy and this method actually stops cats eating our native species.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 4^th, 2022 at 6:19pm:


Young cats don't take over territory you really have NFI.Feral cats cover 95% of Australia.

If you shoot a cat it doesn't breed or eat any more of our endangered native species what part of this do you fail to comprehend?

How does your idiocy stop feral cats from eating our native species do carnivores become vegan after desexing?

We already shoot trap and try to poison cats for some reason idiots like you and the greens want to stop doing the most humane way of controlling them.

When a cat is trapped they shoot it before taking it out of the cage.

We lay poison baits with 1080 all over the countryside it can take up to 4 days to kill animals this way. Cats walk past these poison baits and kill then eat something fresh.

In case you missed it the greens want to ban all hunting.

Are we going to trap and desex wild dogs then release them as well? How does that stop wild dogs eating our native species?

Wild dogs killing Kangaroo


Wild dog chasing farmers sheep in beginning of video before coming into bow and arrow range.


If your mutt gets out and starts chasing a farmers animals that farmer will shoot your dog.

Monks idiocy is to desex all ferals then nurse them back to health then release them back into the wild which does nothing to protect our native species while spending  truckloads of money

All ferals?

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 4^th, 2022 at 10:58pm:


The only species recreational hunters can legally shoot are the introduced feral species.

Aborigines are allowed to hunt native species

Cats are territorial:

https://icatcare.org/advice/the-social-structure-of-cat-life/

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 4^th, 2022 at 11:12pm:


You would like to eliminate them all, but your proposal would see cat numbers sky rocket, because you would increase the cost of eliminating feral cats by a factor of 100 to 1000. If you had your way you would basically eliminate all effective feral cat control measures.

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You sound just like them. Completely detached from reality.

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No I do not Monk. This is you trying to paint those who point out your idiocy as having equally idiotic views.

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That is not what I am saying either Monk. Though I can show you pictures of places where they do neuter and release, where there is a huge number of cats. Probably 1000 to 10000 times the 'natural' population density of cats. And very few other animals.

I have explained very patiently and repeatedly why your idea is so incredibly stupid. Read it again if you still do not get it.

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It, and various other measures, have gone a long way to solving the actual problem. But rabbits do not eat other native species. No other introduced pest is responsible for as many extinctions as the cat. And yes, shooting cats can save those species from extinction.

So shooting, trapping and baiting has made no appreciable difference to the rabbit population.

But, apparently, shooting and trapping feral cats will work. Yeah—IT WILL WORK THIS TIME!


I think there are two people protecting a hobby—hunting—rather than trying to make a real difference to feral cat numbers.


1 + 4 - 1 = +4 

1 + 4 + 4 - 1 = +8

Shooting will not reduce feral cat numbers to any measurable extent. Saying shooting works means you think that 1 + 4 - 1 = -1

Baronvonrort wrote on May 6^th, 2022 at 6:03pm:



PETA advocates going vegan as one of the responses to the feral cat problem.
https://www.peta.org.au/issues/feral-cats/

freediver wrote on Jun 5^th, 2022 at 12:44pm:


I am comparing feral cat and rabbit populations, as even Booby could see. NOT changing the topic—that is your specialty.

We need to stop feral cats reproducing because shooting and trapping has not worked, has it?

Not if they already had or sired a litter. That is the item you will not accept because you want to go shooting.

So shoot—don’t pretend you are making the slightest difference to feral cat numbers tho.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 5^th, 2022 at 1:59pm:



Monk - you're not the full quid.
All we can do is shoot as many as possible and keep shooting them.

freediver wrote on Jun 5^th, 2022 at 3:22pm:


Did not work with rabbits. That sort of strategy works only with large animals that are fewer in numbers than cats or rabbits! Hell, foxes are still a big menace to sheep growers and they get hunted too.

Try actually thinking FD, it may hurt the old noggin for a bit but you may, perhaps, learn something.

Nothing I have said means people can’t or shouldn’t hunt feral cats. It just does SFA to reduce feral cat numbers.

What says that the cat you shoot hasn’t already had a litter or two?

Softheads and cretins like you are why we have feral cats in the first place!

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 5^th, 2022 at 4:50pm:



it says:

Shooting is one of the main methods of control currently used but it is labour intensive and not
considered an effective broad-scale control method. It may be of use in reducing the local number of
feral cats or targeting problem animals.

Because all the shooting and trapping didn’t make a dent in rabbit numbers. Same with feral cats.

Really, cretin, have you not read what BarrelOfRot posted? Maps of areas where feral cats are?

How much wildlife would I be saving? Say that on average every cat I shot had one litter of 4 kittens reaching independence.

Crap.

Cats have no place in Australia as I have stated on several occasions. I would not even allow them as pets—domestic cats stray and can turn feral.

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Better buy a LOT of bullets!

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cats_in_Australia#Control

As I said—enclose some land in a fence and remove all feral cats from inside that fence. Good luck doing that with all the area where feral cats live.

Kiwi hunters are crack shots. Besides shooting feral deer for some yummy venison.
The enjoy the challenge of knocking off Stoats and other small pest specials.

So you agree shooting is not the way to eradicate feral cats. Good.

So what is the way to get rid of these bloody cats?

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1654432919/6#6


Bobby. wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 5:58pm:



Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 6^th, 2022 at 6:16pm:




Monk,
you keep changing your story.   

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LOL. You start by insisting you have not changed your story. But in the next sentence you change your story.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 5^th, 2022 at 1:59pm:


Monk can you please explain how you can believe it is possible to completely eradicate cats on an Island over 100km long, but also think it is not possible to have any impact on cat numbers?

And why do you find it so challenging to remember all the different positions you have held on this subject?

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Can you please explain how you can believe it is possible to completely eradicate cats on an Island over 100km long, but also think it is not possible to have any impact on cat numbers?

How are we supposed to know when you are lying?

Are you telling lies to get back at me for you not getting your way? How does looking like a complete idiot here achieve anything?

How can you believe it is possible to completely eradicate cats on an Island over 100km long, but also think it is not possible to have any impact on cat numbers?

We REALLY need someone with some smarts to Mod Environment now!

AGW

Pandemics

Pests

Diseases

Overdevelopment

Population increase


etc, all destroying the natural environment we all rely on. We need someone—Barnacle be good—to Mod Environment! I have suggested to Booby that he and I swap boards—I even offered to let the cretin copy across all his ice age nonsense!

freediver wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 8:00pm:


I have covered that and more in my posts here. Get a 4yo to read and explain it to you.

WHY did I get so many long bans last year? We never could figure that out looking at my posts. Three months, three fortnights, one month. LOT of time no decent posts with good links to scientific papers, smacking few of those in OzPol of late.

freediver wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 8:03pm:


Interestingly enough ... Monk is constantly accusing others of all that. So he's been basically self projecting 😐

Hahahaha! Monk would probably get his own foot caught in said trap and require a nurse. And doctor. His boring and endless topics of it all would then follow ..😩

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 7^th, 2022 at 11:00pm:



Monk doesn't think things through -
it's just a thought bubble.

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 12^th, 2022 at 1:36pm:

If you see ferals at this range what alternatives are there to instantly remove them?