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Apr 6th, 2022 at 7:22pm
 
I love my Makitas.
Had a BIG look for a few 12V tools.
Checked a cheap set, some DeWalts.
Makitas suited me more, had a wider range.

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Reply #1 - Apr 6th, 2022 at 7:22pm
 
they're not as good as they used to be.
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Reply #2 - Apr 6th, 2022 at 11:56pm
 
The battery died on my cordless drill about 2 months ago i didn't bother replacing it.

I have owned 5 cordless drills none of them work anymore.

I don't think i will buy any more battery powered tools.

My trusty old drills that need a power lead still going strong after 25 years.
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Reply #3 - Apr 7th, 2022 at 12:57am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 6th, 2022 at 11:56pm:
The battery died on my cordless drill about 2 months ago i didn't bother replacing it.

I have owned 5 cordless drills none of them work anymore.

I don't think i will buy any more battery powered tools.

My trusty old drills that need a power lead still going strong after 25 years.


I have a powered drill that is 47 years old. I don't use it much anymore but it does still work perfectly.
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Reply #4 - Apr 7th, 2022 at 5:20pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 6th, 2022 at 11:56pm:
I don't think i will buy any more battery powered tools.



if you need it every day for work thats not always an option these days.

If you just use it for the occasional hobby at home than there is no need for battery, although I still prefer it. Am at the moment transitioning all my garden tools to battery. No more petrol, no more rip chords. Yeehaa
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Reply #5 - Apr 7th, 2022 at 5:37pm
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 7th, 2022 at 5:20pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 6th, 2022 at 11:56pm:
I don't think i will buy any more battery powered tools.



if you need it every day for work thats not always an option these days.

If you just use it for the occasional hobby at home than there is no need for battery, although I still prefer it. Am at the moment transitioning all my garden tools to battery. No more petrol, no more rip chords. Yeehaa


Yes, us too.
Battery powered whipper snipper is great
A friend has a battery lawn mower, says it is far less fatiguing.
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Reply #6 - Apr 7th, 2022 at 5:43pm
 
I don't know about Makita but I do know
that DeWalt  battery powered tools are great.
The trick with any batteries is not to put them
away in a cupboard when they are flat.
Always charge them after use.


https://www.bunnings.com.au/dewalt-18v-5ah-xr-li-ion-brushless-hammer-drill-driv...
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Reply #7 - Apr 7th, 2022 at 6:10pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 7th, 2022 at 5:37pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 7th, 2022 at 5:20pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 6th, 2022 at 11:56pm:
I don't think i will buy any more battery powered tools.



if you need it every day for work thats not always an option these days.

If you just use it for the occasional hobby at home than there is no need for battery, although I still prefer it. Am at the moment transitioning all my garden tools to battery. No more petrol, no more rip chords. Yeehaa


Yes, us too.
Battery powered whipper snipper is great

A friend has a battery lawn mower, says it is far less fatiguing.


thats the next one on my list. I haven't touched the lawn mower since I got the battery mower 36V makita). It's so light and easy to push around that my 12 year old does my lawns now. The surprising thing for me is that I don't even have to remind him. Every two weeks he pulls it out of the shed and goes for it. And he has since started doing the neighbors yard for some spending money. One battery does the neighbours lawn and my front yard before it dies. Then it's on the charger for an hour before he can finish the back yard.   I still have to do the edges for him though because I haven't got around to a battery whipper snipper yet . My 12 year old can't pull the rip cord properly and I don't want him handling the cans of petrol. I want a 36V whipper snipper so the batteries are interchangeable and he'll be able to finish both lawns in one go if he so wishes.
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Where are Makita tools made these days?

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greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 7th, 2022 at 6:22pm:
Where are Makita tools made these days?




UK (drill/drivers, angle grinders, jigsaws, plunge saws, belt sanders and circular saws. )
Germany (Chain saw)
Japan
China
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Reply #10 - Apr 7th, 2022 at 8:29pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 7th, 2022 at 5:43pm:
I don't know about Makita but I do know
that DeWalt  battery powered tools are great.
The trick with any batteries is not to put them
away in a cupboard when they are flat.
Always charge them after use.


https://www.bunnings.com.au/dewalt-18v-5ah-xr-li-ion-brushless-hammer-drill-driv...


I've got some DeWalt trigger clamps.
Some of my fav tools. Very nice to use.

Funny how some gear just feels right.
Well balanced, easy to use.
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Reply #11 - Apr 7th, 2022 at 8:47pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 7th, 2022 at 8:29pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 7th, 2022 at 5:43pm:
I don't know about Makita but I do know
that DeWalt  battery powered tools are great.
The trick with any batteries is not to put them
away in a cupboard when they are flat.
Always charge them after use.


https://www.bunnings.com.au/dewalt-18v-5ah-xr-li-ion-brushless-hammer-drill-driv...


I've got some DeWalt trigger clamps.
Some of my fav tools. Very nice to use.

Funny how some gear just feels right.
Well balanced, easy to use.



I have used  DeWalt tools - they are fantastic
but a lot more expensive than other brands.
You get what you pay for.

I have 2 old electric drills that use NiCad batteries and
both the batteries are stuffed.
The chargers were not even smart chargers
and the batteries became unusable in less than 2 years.
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Reply #12 - Apr 8th, 2022 at 1:01pm
 
The Nicad batteries are not good.
That's not a fault of DeWalt, a comment on the technology of that time.
Same as Makita tools that used Nicad batteries.


The 12V Makita stuff is 2/3rds the weight of the 18V makita stuff.
I have aa 18V and 12V Makita drill, weighted them both with a 1.5AH battery in either.
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Reply #13 - Apr 9th, 2022 at 1:32pm
 
OOOOOoooooooooohhhhhhhhh, just been playing with my new 12V Makita impact driver.

It is a LOT better than the old 12V Renegade impact driver.
The Renegade is quite ok. I take the purchase price into account.

The Makita has 25% more torque and many more impacts per minute.
It's better balanced, it is slightly heavier but feels lighter.

Drove some screws into the face of some scrap pine. Easy. Don't even think I got up to full revs.
Turned the pine on it's side as it is thicker that way and the side grain is harder than the face grain.
Got up to full revs, I think. It buried the screw about 6 mm under the surface of the wood and split the wood before I could stop.
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Reply #14 - Apr 10th, 2022 at 4:58pm
 
Used the 12V Makita drill driver today. It has a brushed DC motor, much cheaper.
Really nice, really smooth, well balanced.

Any other named 12V brand would be quite similar.
The other good brands had only brushless 12V sets, I did not need that at all.
Brushless are much dearer, more for professionals.
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Reply #15 - Apr 10th, 2022 at 5:38pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 7th, 2022 at 8:47pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 7th, 2022 at 8:29pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 7th, 2022 at 5:43pm:
I don't know about Makita but I do know
that DeWalt  battery powered tools are great.
The trick with any batteries is not to put them
away in a cupboard when they are flat.
Always charge them after use.


https://www.bunnings.com.au/dewalt-18v-5ah-xr-li-ion-brushless-hammer-drill-driv...


I've got some DeWalt trigger clamps.
Some of my fav tools. Very nice to use.

Funny how some gear just feels right.
Well balanced, easy to use.



I have used  DeWalt tools - they are fantastic
but a lot more expensive than other brands.
You get what you pay for.

I have 2 old electric drills that use NiCad batteries and
both the batteries are stuffed.
The chargers were not even smart chargers
and the batteries became unusable in less than 2 years.


So, they performed exactly as they were designed.

Where are DeWalt tools made?
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Reply #16 - Apr 10th, 2022 at 6:55pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10th, 2022 at 5:38pm:
So, they performed exactly as they were designed.

Where are DeWalt tools made?



Google is your friend:

https://blog.acmetools.com/dewalt-made-in-the-usa/
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Reply #17 - Apr 10th, 2022 at 7:08pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 10th, 2022 at 6:55pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10th, 2022 at 5:38pm:
So, they performed exactly as they were designed.

Where are DeWalt tools made?



Google is your friend:

https://blog.acmetools.com/dewalt-made-in-the-usa/


They manufacture their tools in the following countries: United States, Mexico, Brazil, China, Italy, United Kingdom, and the Czech Republic.
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Reply #18 - Apr 10th, 2022 at 7:12pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 10th, 2022 at 6:55pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10th, 2022 at 5:38pm:
So, they performed exactly as they were designed.

Where are DeWalt tools made?



Google is your friend:

https://blog.acmetools.com/dewalt-made-in-the-usa/


There are only a few named brands.
Brands that feature in most of the comparisons.

DeWalt, Milwaukee, Makita, Bosch (Blue ones).
Any of those will be a pleasure to use and own.

Sure, a few other brands are more heavy duty.
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Reply #19 - Apr 10th, 2022 at 7:53pm
 
I bought a cheap Chinese-made drill with two x 88V lithium batteries and charger for use with a garden auger for drilling holes in the soil.

Absolutely a good buy. Powerful and works well. It has torque adjustment, speed control, reversing switch, keyless chuck, a bunch of drills, and screwdriver bits.

Been using it for 6 months and works faultlessly.

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Reply #20 - Apr 10th, 2022 at 10:29pm
 
I am doing my new security camera installation around the house tomorrow or the next day. Dad has let me borrow his Ryobi tools. I hope I can keep my fingers intact.
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Reply #21 - Apr 16th, 2022 at 9:09pm
 
Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 10th, 2022 at 7:53pm:
I bought a cheap Chinese-made drill with two x 88V lithium batteries and charger for use with a garden auger for drilling holes in the soil.

Absolutely a good buy. Powerful and works well. It has torque adjustment, speed control, reversing switch, keyless chuck, a bunch of drills, and screwdriver bits.

Been using it for 6 months and works faultlessly.



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Reply #22 - Apr 16th, 2022 at 9:30pm
 
I've seen a few drill/impact driver comparisons among various brands.
It seems that the people intend to destroy whatever they are testing.
No normal owner would do that to any tool of their own.

In one they use impact drivers on screws that are FAR too big and too long. No pilot holes are drilled. To the extent that the drivers overheat, smoke and drip hot melted grease from inside them.

It is a destruction test. Not how anyone would use it
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Reply #23 - Apr 16th, 2022 at 11:24pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 16th, 2022 at 9:30pm:
I've seen a few drill/impact driver comparisons among various brands.
It seems that the people intend to destroy whatever they are testing.
No normal owner would do that to any tool of their own.

In one they use impact drivers on screws that are FAR too big and too long. No pilot holes are drilled. To the extent that the drivers overheat, smoke and drip hot melted grease from inside them.

It is a destruction test. Not how anyone would use it


These destruction tests are great they show which tools are more durable.

How are you going to know if they aren't publicly tested to failure?
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Reply #24 - Apr 17th, 2022 at 12:54am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 16th, 2022 at 11:24pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 16th, 2022 at 9:30pm:
I've seen a few drill/impact driver comparisons among various brands.
It seems that the people intend to destroy whatever they are testing.
No normal owner would do that to any tool of their own.

In one they use impact drivers on screws that are FAR too big and too long. No pilot holes are drilled. To the extent that the drivers overheat, smoke and drip hot melted grease from inside them.

It is a destruction test. Not how anyone would use it


These destruction tests are great they show which tools are more durable.

How are you going to know if they aren't publicly tested to failure?



Yes, pretty fair comment.
If they were not tested to destruction, I would not know where destruction was.

Still check out this video at about 9:30 secs in.
It seems .......... pointless

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Reply #25 - Apr 17th, 2022 at 10:51am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 10th, 2022 at 10:29pm:
I am doing my new security camera installation around the house tomorrow or the next day. Dad has let me borrow his Ryobi tools. I hope I can keep my fingers intact.


Drilled a hole through the corner of a window to fit a cord through. Found out that the security system did not work as I liked. Had to take the system back to the store. Now I have a hole that needs fixing.
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Reply #26 - Apr 17th, 2022 at 11:14am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 17th, 2022 at 12:54am:
Yes, pretty fair comment.
If they were not tested to destruction, I would not know where destruction was.

Still check out this video at about 9:30 secs in.
It seems .......... pointless




I watched it -
you would never treat a tool like that.
You have to choose situations that are within the
capabilities of the tool.
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Reply #27 - Apr 18th, 2022 at 8:44am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 17th, 2022 at 10:51am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 10th, 2022 at 10:29pm:
I am doing my new security camera installation around the house tomorrow or the next day. Dad has let me borrow his Ryobi tools. I hope I can keep my fingers intact.


Drilled a hole through the corner of a window to fit a cord through. Found out that the security system did not work as I liked. Had to take the system back to the store. Now I have a hole that needs fixing.



Some putty and paint?
maybe some dowel, then putty/paint
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Reply #28 - Apr 18th, 2022 at 11:17am
 
I will likely buy an existing house in Tassie—a silent listing. Plenty painting/sanding etc to be done plus plenty work in the garden so interested in the discussion on tools.

Packing up the house I found my Ryobi drill set—bought it for one use, haven’t used it since so should be OK for a while anyway. Also found a Maquita orbital sander.

I will need some movable scaffolding—my days of climbing ladders are over.
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Reply #29 - Apr 18th, 2022 at 10:38pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 18th, 2022 at 11:17am:
I will likely buy an existing house in Tassie—a silent listing. Plenty painting/sanding etc to be done plus plenty work in the garden so interested in the discussion on tools.

Packing up the house I found my Ryobi drill set—bought it for one use, haven’t used it since so should be OK for a while anyway. Also found a Maquita orbital sander.

I will need some movable scaffolding—my days of climbing ladders are over.


Ryobi are not one of my preferred brands, but use what you have at hand first.  There is not much 'wrong' with ryobi. Use it judiciously. It's not for putting a 12 mm hole through 150 mm of old dried hardwood.
Don't let it labour, it'll overheat or break something inside.

Better to buy good drill bits (Sutton) than an excellent drill.

Also, excess heat ruins the tempering of any metal cutting blade.
Once the tempering is ruined it is pointless to resharpen it.

If drilling into hardwood I often have a small cup of water nearby to regularily cool the bits in.

Steel does not have to get 'hot' to ruin the tempering
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Reply #30 - Apr 18th, 2022 at 11:02pm
 
I needed to dismantle (undo some very long screws) some shelves from a defunct HBS and rebuild them in my HBS. There was time pressure—I would have had to pay another months rent on the defunct shop if I did not get the shelves dismantled by a date only a couple days away!

Somewhere I have a Maquita hammer drill.

I have not started emptying the shed yet—there is some goldplated plumbing fixture somewhere!
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Reply #31 - Apr 19th, 2022 at 8:11pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 18th, 2022 at 11:02pm:
I needed to dismantle (undo some very long screws) some shelves from a defunct HBS and rebuild them in my HBS. There was time pressure—I would have had to pay another months rent on the defunct shop if I did not get the shelves dismantled by a date only a couple days away!

Somewhere I have a Maquita hammer drill.

I have not started emptying the shed yet—there is some goldplated plumbing fixture somewhere!


Oh, as you have found, it is harder to undo screws than put them in.

Sometimes they can be loosened by hitting the top with a hammer. Not too hard, just to jar them.
Spray it with penetrating oil, let it soak in for a while.
If you think it is getting too hard to undo them, you'll be right. Stop or the head will be stripped.

If they are in old wood, can you chisel out a bit around the head, then put vise grips onto the now exposed head ?

It's a hard job. Don't rush it.

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Reply #32 - Apr 19th, 2022 at 8:14pm
 
Using the Ryobi drill with the right screwdriver fitting got them out easily—I had been tripping heads using a manual screwdriver.
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Reply #33 - Apr 19th, 2022 at 8:27pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 19th, 2022 at 8:14pm:
Using the Ryobi drill with the right screwdriver fitting got them out easily—I had been tripping heads using a manual screwdriver.


Phew, yes, electric drills are much better than manual screwdrivers. That is a relief.

Some screw bits look VERY similar but are quite different.
A posidrive is quite different to a normal phillips head, but look almost identical. There are markings on the posidrive screws, else I would not know.

The Torx bits look VERY similar to allen key heads.
With the right torx or allen key, there will be zero looseness.
Try a torx one if unsure. Often I try both sorts till one fits exactly.

You did well to get those old ones out.
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Reply #34 - Apr 19th, 2022 at 8:55pm
 
Oh yeah. Left a huge mess behind, let the owner of the defunct HBS clean it up—I had my shop to think about.
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Reply #35 - May 2nd, 2022 at 8:12pm
 
I've used the 12V Makita drill/driver and impact driver quite a bit now.
I have an identical 18V Makita drill driver so can compare them.

The 18V range has 50% more torque and is 50% heavier.
For construction work, suspension on cars, mining or farming the 12V probably just won't do it.
Even with a 4AH battery on the 12V range it just will be struggling too much to be fair to it.
The brushless 18V are much more suited to heavy duty work

A guy I know bought a cheap 5 set 18V lithium set from Aldis.
He buys really good deals, is always looking. For what he paid for it, can't lose.

For the home handyman stuff I do, the 12V drill/impact driver set is ideal.
I'm sure you could get a cheaper set ($185 for these 2, charger and 2 batteries).
These are VERY nice.
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Reply #36 - May 15th, 2022 at 9:13pm
 

Interesting benefit to the 12V Makita kit,
My wife can use it.
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Reply #37 - May 16th, 2022 at 3:00pm
 
One tool I will get once established in Tassy is a reciprocating saw. Easy to use, safer than a chain saw, keep trees in shape no problem.

Applewood is a great wood for smoking food. Peach and apricot give a nice light sweet smoke flavor.
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Re: Makita Tools
Reply #38 - May 20th, 2022 at 7:04pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on May 16th, 2022 at 3:00pm:
One tool I will get once established in Tassy is a reciprocating saw. Easy to use, safer than a chain saw, keep trees in shape no problem.

Applewood is a great wood for smoking food. Peach and apricot give a nice light sweet smoke flavor.


A brother of mine told me reciprocating saws  are very good.
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Reply #39 - May 20th, 2022 at 8:02pm
 
If I recall correctly Makita have two different standards for their tools. The blue ones are for the home handyman and the green ones are aimed at tradies. 
I have a battery powered drill that has lasted me for around 20 years. Not bad for the cheap handyman version.
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Reply #40 - May 20th, 2022 at 8:32pm
 
Belgarion wrote on May 20th, 2022 at 8:02pm:
If I recall correctly Makita have two different standards for their tools. The blue ones are for the home handyman and the green ones are aimed at tradies. 
I have a battery powered drill that has lasted me for around 20 years. Not bad for the cheap handyman version.


I think that is a Bosch thing.
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Reply #41 - May 20th, 2022 at 9:18pm
 

Sigh - was going to have a BIG Makita day today.

Did the M. Whippersnippering, the mowing and compost tumbler process, the M. leaf blowing.
Stopped, had lunch.
Was on the plan to do some Makita woodworking but that did not eventuate.

Tomorrows fun awaits.

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Re: Makita Tools
Reply #42 - May 25th, 2022 at 10:43pm
 
Got to get that bloody lawnmower started soon, lawn is a foot high in places. Brand new mower!
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