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Re: Royal commision into ADF suicides
Reply #30 - Jun 20^th, 2022 at 6:42pm

Jasin wrote on Jun 20^th, 2022 at 6:35pm:

Australian Soldiers are just paid hit-men mercenaries for the USA's 'most invasive nation ever' policy.
No wonder they feel shame.

Heard a bunch of SAS guys called themselves the 300 Spartans. How's that for an ego wank.
No wonder they can't cope in the outside world beyond a military base and its comfort zone.
Life is too tough on the outside with us common folk.

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random Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2637 Gender:	Re: Royal commision into ADF suicides Reply #31 - Jun 20^th, 2022 at 6:44pm When the ADF made their VC appointment a poster boy, I was shocked and disgusted. It devalued the award and those who came before him. It was faarking gay shite.
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Reply #32 - Jun 20^th, 2022 at 8:10pm

Of course it was.
The ADF is a muppet industry.
Give a bravery award to try and hide a murder conviction.
ADF is so incompetent that they whinge and whine about taking orders from the British and blame the British for choking at Gallipoli, then go running like grovelling mercenaries to the USA "Please protect us!".

Civilians via James Cameron designed and built an 'Australian Made' submersible in Pyrmont that took him 11km deep. ADF couldn't build a submarine if they tried and these things only have to go down 500m at most.

When USA says "Jump!" - the ADF jumps and then lays prostrate at the feet of the USA commands.

300 Spartans Grin

Talk about 'buggery' in the ranks of the SAS.

Suicides in the ADF? Figures eh. Wink

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Brian Ross Moderator Online Representative of me Posts: 44333	Re: Royal commision into ADF suicides Reply #33 - Jun 23^rd, 2022 at 7:22pm Royal commission hears of 'ad hoc and inconsistent' suicide reporting as Australian Defence Force Chief testifies
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Brian Ross Moderator Online Representative of me Posts: 44333	Re: Royal commision into ADF suicides Reply #34 - Jun 24^th, 2022 at 5:42pm General Angus Campbell gives further evidence to royal commission, rejects 'profound systemic failure' for specific suicide case
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Brian Ross Moderator Online Representative of me Posts: 44333	Re: Royal commision into ADF suicides Reply #35 - Jun 27^th, 2022 at 8:18pm Royal Commission into Defence and Veteran Suicide hears of barracks life — including assaults and bullying — in Townsville
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Reply #36 - Jun 27^th, 2022 at 9:05pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 27^th, 2022 at 8:18pm:

Royal Commission into Defence and Veteran Suicide hears of barracks life — including assaults and bullying — in Townsville Roll Eyes

A bit of selective reporting here I think. By civilian standards the ADF culture is rough and intimidating, and within reason, for a very good reason. Someone who can't deal with a bit of abuse by training staff and fellow members, and learn to give as good as they get will be unlikely to handle the pressure when it really hits the fan.

This is untrue..... "For the soldier who has been charged … they are required to use an on-call reserve legal system," Warrant Officer Buskell said.

"I can use a legal officer to help me prepare a case against a soldier, but a soldier can't go to the same legal office and prepare their defence.

While the soldier obviously cannot use the same legal officer, he/she has exactly the same right to legal representation as anyone else, officers included. The fact that the legal officer may be a reservist is not an issue, in fact he/she may well be more experienced in court than a full time legal officer.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 52770 Gender:	Re: Royal commision into ADF suicides Reply #37 - Jun 27^th, 2022 at 10:12pm Lets talk about how the Military has sponged women off the Medical world for a long time to get laid, because they had none of their own. Then when women join their ranks to join their world - they get raped as if they had to follow an order.
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Reply #38 - Jun 27^th, 2022 at 10:39pm

Jasin wrote on Jun 27^th, 2022 at 10:12pm:

Lets talk about how the Military has sponged women off the Medical world for a long time to get laid, because they had none of their own.
Then when women join their ranks to join their world - they get raped as if they had to follow an order.

This topic is for adults only. Go away child.

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Re: Royal commision into ADF suicides
Reply #39 - Jun 27^th, 2022 at 11:15pm

Belgarion wrote on Jun 27^th, 2022 at 10:39pm:

Jasin wrote on Jun 27^th, 2022 at 10:12pm:

Lets talk about how the Military has sponged women off the Medical world for a long time to get laid, because they had none of their own.
Then when women join their ranks to join their world - they get raped as if they had to follow an order.

This topic is for adults only. Go away child.

That is a borderline post, Belgarion. Personal attacks are not allowed under the forum rules. If you persist I will be forced to ban you, understand? I don't agree with JaSin's comments any more than you do but he deserves respect.

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Laugh till you cry Gold Member Offline Posts: 16619 In your happy place Gender:	Re: Royal commision into ADF suicides Reply #40 - Jun 28^th, 2022 at 12:09am Isn't a military suicide just a contractual matter? Didn't the victims offer their lives to their country when they signed the contract?
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Brian Ross Moderator Online Representative of me Posts: 44333	Re: Royal commision into ADF suicides Reply #41 - Jun 28^th, 2022 at 3:01pm Historic abuse that 'destroyed' lives recalled for Royal Commission into Defence and Veteran Suicide hearings in Townsville
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Reply #42 - Jun 28^th, 2022 at 3:08pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 28^th, 2022 at 12:09am:

Isn't a military suicide just a contractual matter?

Didn't the victims offer their lives to their country when they signed the contract?

You know there is actually something in this.

I was in the US military for 14 years, two wars.

At the very start, in boot camp they make it clear, they are more honest than the false Hallmark cards of civilian or corporate life, that your life now belongs to the military.

Your personal happiness or desires are secondary to the greater goal.

They never lie about it.

Not from day one when the Drill Instructor wakes you up and four AM and calls you a retarded maggot.

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Jake Winker Frogen Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1492 Perth WA Gender:	Re: Royal commision into ADF suicides Reply #43 - Jun 28^th, 2022 at 3:10pm And oddly enough I have never been has happy or content than when I was in the military.
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Jake Winker Frogen Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1492 Perth WA Gender:	Re: Royal commision into ADF suicides Reply #44 - Jun 28^th, 2022 at 3:12pm However post leaving the service, the VA in the USA, and I reckon here do not do enough to thank that service. Heal the scars. You are basically on your own. Back in the market of buy and sell human life. And that is when you have to find your own greater purpose again, your service. Nor not?
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