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Re: Tree change
Reply #15 - Oct 26^th, 2021 at 8:36pm

Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 26^th, 2021 at 5:09pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 26^th, 2021 at 2:11pm:

How to pick a country town:
If it has a thriving sourdough bakery it has a big enough middle class.
If it doesn't, then it's Hicksville.

Snobbery comes in many forms. I remember our neighbour telling me when I was 6 years old that there's no greater snob than a member of the working class. I’ve been trying to work that one out ever since.
Anyhow, my exprerience is snobbery manifests in all classes, but especially in those who are obsessed with class.

To experience real snobbery go to India.

Well, you stick with sliced white bread in a plastic bag if that's your idea of being a 'true son of the soil'.

Good sourdough is the middle class's yearning to return , in a small way, to authenticity. White bread is the industrialised crap fed to peasants who have been foreclosed and herded into factories.

Sourdough bakeries are the first shoots of returning to local, slow food.

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Valkie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16096 Central Coast Gender:	Re: Tree change Reply #16 - Oct 27^th, 2021 at 7:22am Article in the telegraph today. Dubbo is the place to go, just watch out for the indigenous, they tend to be a little feisty there.
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Re: Tree change
Reply #17 - Oct 27^th, 2021 at 7:44am

Frank wrote on Oct 26^th, 2021 at 8:36pm:

Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 26^th, 2021 at 5:09pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 26^th, 2021 at 2:11pm:

How to pick a country town:
If it has a thriving sourdough bakery it has a big enough middle class.
If it doesn't, then it's Hicksville.

Snobbery comes in many forms. I remember our neighbour telling me when I was 6 years old that there's no greater snob than a member of the working class. I’ve been trying to work that one out ever since.
Anyhow, my exprerience is snobbery manifests in all classes, but especially in those who are obsessed with class.

To experience real snobbery go to India.

Well, you stick with sliced white bread in a plastic bag if that's your idea of being a 'true son of the soil'.

Good sourdough is the middle class's yearning to return , in a small way, to authenticity. White bread is the industrialised crap fed to peasants who have been foreclosed and herded into factories.

Sourdough bakeries are the first shoots of returning to local, slow food.

We are a peculiar species. Only a few centuries back white bread was the preference of the ‘upper classes’ with sourdough, wholemeal etc regarded as peasant food.

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Belgarion Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5310 Gender:	Re: Tree change Reply #18 - Oct 27^th, 2021 at 9:54am Valkie wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 7:22am: Article in the telegraph today. Dubbo is the place to go, just watch out for the indigenous, they tend to be a little feisty there. Move to a country town and live in a flat....why would you?
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Re: Tree change
Reply #19 - Oct 27^th, 2021 at 4:17pm

Belgarion wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 9:54am:

Valkie wrote on Oct 27^th, 2021 at 7:22am:

Article in the telegraph today.

Dubbo is the place to go, just watch out for the indigenous, they tend to be a little feisty there.

Move to a country town and live in a flat....why would you?

I wouldn't, but it's an option depending on lifestyle or personal preference.

I have some friends who came from China who don't like freestanding homes.
They actually prefer flats.
But, in saying that, one couple from China bought a farm and love it.

Horses for courses.

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Re: Tree change
Reply #20 - Oct 28^th, 2021 at 7:01am

A HUGE problem with these 'tree-changers' is that they destroy
the fabric of places they decide to infest by bringing with them
everything they claim to be trying to get away from.

The crime, the tawdry fast-food outlets, the heritage-destroying
'safety' fittings on every structure like rail stations etc, the high
house prices and rental costs they create, the destruction of rail
lines to create little-used and expensive to maintain rail-trails -
and I could go on.

And then, to add insult to injury, they complain about every single
forking thing that THEY don't like. Have a look at the saga which is
threatening development and improvements at Wakefield Park race-
track, for example, or the bullshit complaints about everything from
wind-farms to power infrastructure to animal 'noise'.

No, they can stay where they are - we don't want 'em.

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Re: Tree change
Reply #21 - Oct 28^th, 2021 at 7:12am

Kat wrote on Oct 28^th, 2021 at 7:01am:

A HUGE problem with these 'tree-changers' is that they destroy
the fabric of places they decide to infest by bringing with them
everything they claim to be trying to get away from.

The crime, the tawdry fast-food outlets, the heritage-destroying
'safety' fittings on every structure like rail stations etc, the high
house prices and rental costs they create, the destruction of rail
lines to create little-used and expensive to maintain rail-trails -
and I could go on.

And then, to add insult to injury, they complain about every single
forking thing that THEY don't like. Have a look at the saga which is
threatening development and improvements at Wakefield Park race-
track, for example, or the bullshit complaints about everything from
wind-farms to power infrastructure to animal 'noise'.

No, they can stay where they are - we don't want 'em.

But I remember reading once about a sign posted on a road in cattle country.
It was about the complaints to council by tree changes complaint about a farmer using the road to move his cattle from one paddoc to another across the road.

It stated something like

You are now in the country, Cows are part of the country
If you dont want cow shite on your Mercedes tyres.
Go back to the city

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A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
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Re: Tree change
Reply #22 - Oct 28^th, 2021 at 7:38am

Valkie wrote on Oct 28^th, 2021 at 7:12am:

Kat wrote on Oct 28^th, 2021 at 7:01am:

A HUGE problem with these 'tree-changers' is that they destroy
the fabric of places they decide to infest by bringing with them
everything they claim to be trying to get away from.

The crime, the tawdry fast-food outlets, the heritage-destroying
'safety' fittings on every structure like rail stations etc, the high
house prices and rental costs they create, the destruction of rail
lines to create little-used and expensive to maintain rail-trails -
and I could go on.

And then, to add insult to injury, they complain about every single
forking thing that THEY don't like. Have a look at the saga which is
threatening development and improvements at Wakefield Park race-
track, for example, or the bullshit complaints about everything from
wind-farms to power infrastructure to animal 'noise'.

No, they can stay where they are - we don't want 'em.

But I remember reading once about a sign posted on a road in cattle country.
It was about the complaints to council by tree changes complaint about a farmer using the road to move his cattle from one paddoc to another across the road.

It stated something like

You are now in the country, Cows are part of the country
If you dont want cow shite on your Mercedes tyres.
Go back to the city

Totally agree . When first moving to Tasmania I noticed a large % of ex mainlanders where racist pigs running away from ‘all them wogs’. Now a new wave of climate change refugees are complaining bitterly this little island isn’t ‘modern enough’ for them. Ok, I can understand customers at Greezy Joes down the road from me prefer their morning capuccino made with instant coffee but what the hell did trendoid ex mainlanders expect moving to rural Tasmania?
There are however a lot of things about Tasmanians that annoy the hell out of me. One is the astonishing rudeness of so many retailers. That’s changing as ex mainlander take over a lot of retail outlets etc. But hey, every day I take my dogs for their morning walk down to the creek breathing the freshest air on the planet I know I made the correct decision coming here. Problem is too many mainlanders are starting to see this little island as a life boat that will save them from global warming (no, I’m not going to discuss with any of you idiots if that’s real or not) , all it will do is postpone the worst for a few years.
Then there’s Tasmanian politics to take into acount. Most local govt is no more than thuggery and the state Govt are so corrupt they make dear departed Joe Bjelke- Petterson look like a saint.

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Re: Tree change
Reply #23 - Oct 29^th, 2021 at 12:24pm

StoveLegs wrote on Oct 25^th, 2021 at 8:42pm:

Evening all,
Going through the thought process of moving from Brisbane to a regional area. Young family both in well paying jobs currently but feeling like we could have a better quality of life in a large regional town.
I know that once we move and settle it would be very difficult to try to buy back in Brissy again should we regret it in a few years.
We would be able to buy outright if we moved, but I am wondering if anyone who has moved has regretted it, what did you miss?
I grew up in a country town so know exactly what it is like, I just worry I would miss all the city has to offer.
We are still in our 30s and have so many fantastic parks etc in the city for our kids, but saying that, we both have to work to pay the mortgage (on a very small modest place I might add!) and it would be such a luxury to not have this hanging over our heads.

Can I just say…. Make certain when you go rural/regional that there is a good clearance of bush/trees away from house/shed area/horse paddock area.

We just had another freak storm and more trees have come down. Couple months ago we had 15 trees come down. And once again no power until Sunday, last time we were the luckier ones with no power for 4 days when up in the mountain they had no power for weeks!

I might also suggest… have a good generator too!
Oh and stock up on candles/torch too… it’s the first thing that gets sold out during power outage.
If your property is on tank water, and a pump to run water to house, then during power outtage you won’t have water. Keep some containers water handy until generator is applied to pump.
Good to have a gas top cooker too, even on gas tank… at least it always works during power blackout, but have matches or gas lighter handy.

Apart from that, I love the rural aspects of living. Other day I walked around property and the different birds singing… I spotted a kookaburra on a tree branch.
It was bliss.
Frank… there is no way Melb, Syd, Bne can be compared to tree or sea change. We hate having to drive to or through city and try to avoid as much as possible.
Even the Gold Coast has lost its sea change charm ages ago.

Hinterland is nice.

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Re: Tree change
Reply #24 - Oct 29^th, 2021 at 12:35pm

Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 28^th, 2021 at 7:38am:

Valkie wrote on Oct 28^th, 2021 at 7:12am:

Kat wrote on Oct 28^th, 2021 at 7:01am:

A HUGE problem with these 'tree-changers' is that they destroy
the fabric of places they decide to infest by bringing with them
everything they claim to be trying to get away from.

The crime, the tawdry fast-food outlets, the heritage-destroying
'safety' fittings on every structure like rail stations etc, the high
house prices and rental costs they create, the destruction of rail
lines to create little-used and expensive to maintain rail-trails -
and I could go on.

And then, to add insult to injury, they complain about every single
forking thing that THEY don't like. Have a look at the saga which is
threatening development and improvements at Wakefield Park race-
track, for example, or the bullshit complaints about everything from
wind-farms to power infrastructure to animal 'noise'.

No, they can stay where they are - we don't want 'em.

But I remember reading once about a sign posted on a road in cattle country.
It was about the complaints to council by tree changes complaint about a farmer using the road to move his cattle from one paddoc to another across the road.

It stated something like

You are now in the country, Cows are part of the country
If you dont want cow shite on your Mercedes tyres.
Go back to the city

Totally agree . When first moving to Tasmania I noticed a large % of ex mainlanders where racist pigs running away from ‘all them wogs’. Now a new wave of climate change refugees are complaining bitterly this little island isn’t ‘modern enough’ for them. Ok, I can understand customers at Greezy Joes down the road from me prefer their morning capuccino made with instant coffee but what the hell did trendoid ex mainlanders expect moving to rural Tasmania?
There are however a lot of things about Tasmanians that annoy the hell out of me. One is the astonishing rudeness of so many retailers. That’s changing as ex mainlander take over a lot of retail outlets etc. But hey, every day I take my dogs for their morning walk down to the creek breathing the freshest air on the planet I know I made the correct decision coming here. Problem is too many mainlanders are starting to see this little island as a life boat that will save them from global warming (no, I’m not going to discuss with any of you idiots if that’s real or not) , all it will do is postpone the worst for a few years.
Then there’s Tasmanian politics to take into acount. Most local govt is no more than thuggery and the state Govt are so corrupt they make dear departed Joe Bjelke- Petterson look like a saint.

Our neighbour… a lawyer for immigration and his wife … they are office workers. Why on earth did they buy in rural area?
They haven’t got a clue. Many reasons I notice… but recent one last week… it’s been very wet year… and we know not to go in paddocks due to bogginess. What does neighbour do? Goes into horse paddock with small stupid whatever tractor he has and bogged for 2 days struggling to get out.

It was torture as we wanted to mind our own business… but then hubby had to help… he got his 4WD tractor, went next door and pulled his bogged tractor right out and into higher dryer ground.
All done in less than half hour.

Why do we have to get these city slicker tree change know nothing next to us???

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39522 Gender:	Re: Tree change Reply #25 - Oct 29^th, 2021 at 1:21pm We had a tree change. I changed our grass and pine tree backyard to a 'Butterfly Forest'. We have many fauna live with us now who otherwise had no home. Plant flowering natives everyone. We can rewild Australia.
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