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Re: Windows 11
Reply #75 - Sep 21^st, 2022 at 8:46am

I have 2 desktop PC's and 2 laptops.

Not long ago I had all 4 running Windows 11 (one of the desktop PC's was "unsupported" but it ran OK).

Today, 3 of the 4 machines are running Windows 10 again.

The only machine with Windows 11 left on it is the smaller laptop and that might be back on Windows 10 before too much longer depending on what "22H2" looks and behaves like.

Seems like "change for the sake of change" is the mantra at Microsoft (and a lot of other software companies) these days. Why keep changing and moving things around (and adding more and more useless cr@p) when something like Windows 7 was adequate and functional for most people?

I believe a lot of it has to do with keeping employees (or employees keeping themselves) "gainfully employed" - if they had nothing to do they would be out of a job.

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Re: Windows 11
Reply #76 - Sep 21^st, 2022 at 8:47am

random wrote on Sep 21^st, 2022 at 6:10am:

As a young worker, I eagerly bought Windows 1.0

Here's what it did.

Loaded into RAM and displayed a GUI and mouse interface that only showed icons of applications you defined
If you clicked on an icon it launched the app, which were all character based.
But the Win 1.0 occupied almost all of the available 640K Ram so some of the apps could no load at all.

I kicked it off, dumped the purchase in the bin.

But because I worked for organisations that were MS based I had to use it at work. The only two versions that were stable and half usable were 95 and Windows 7.

You cannot polish a turd.

Win95 was the most unstable OS in human history -
so you don't know what you're talking about.

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Re: Windows 11
Reply #77 - Sep 21^st, 2022 at 9:09am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 21^st, 2022 at 8:47am:

random wrote on Sep 21^st, 2022 at 6:10am:

As a young worker, I eagerly bought Windows 1.0

Here's what it did.

Loaded into RAM and displayed a GUI and mouse interface that only showed icons of applications you defined
If you clicked on an icon it launched the app, which were all character based.
But the Win 1.0 occupied almost all of the available 640K Ram so some of the apps could no load at all.

I kicked it off, dumped the purchase in the bin.

But because I worked for organisations that were MS based I had to use it at work. The only two versions that were stable and half usable were 95 and Windows 7.

You cannot polish a turd.

Win95 was the most unstable OS in human history -

Exactly, but it was the best of the Microsoft systems.

Wat I sed.

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Re: Windows 11
Reply #78 - Sep 21^st, 2022 at 9:15am

Carl D wrote on Sep 21^st, 2022 at 8:46am:

I have 2 desktop PC's and 2 laptops.

Why keep changing and moving things around (and adding more and more useless cr@p) when something like Windows 7 was adequate and functional for most people?

The Windows 7 interface was very like a Mac, not by accident. I could pretty seamlessly move from one to the other. I used to help family when they had issues with windows, my old DOS experience came in handy. But after 7, I declined to be involved. One had a series of big issues, in the end I told him to go easy one himself and get a Mac.

All he really needed was an ipad, but was exposed to the complex animal that is Windows.

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Re: Windows 11
Reply #79 - Sep 21^st, 2022 at 9:24am

random wrote on Sep 21^st, 2022 at 9:09am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 21^st, 2022 at 8:47am:

random wrote on Sep 21^st, 2022 at 6:10am:

As a young worker, I eagerly bought Windows 1.0

Here's what it did.

Loaded into RAM and displayed a GUI and mouse interface that only showed icons of applications you defined
If you clicked on an icon it launched the app, which were all character based.
But the Win 1.0 occupied almost all of the available 640K Ram so some of the apps could no load at all.

I kicked it off, dumped the purchase in the bin.

But because I worked for organisations that were MS based I had to use it at work. The only two versions that were stable and half usable were 95 and Windows 7.

You cannot polish a turd.

Win95 was the most unstable OS in human history -

Exactly, but it was the best of the Microsoft systems.

Wat I sed.

I remember doing some CAD design at work back in the mid 90s using Win95
and a new CAD package of software.
I had to save the results every 30 minutes as a file with a new name -
in case the computer failed with that "blue screen of death" -
that everyone saw on Win95 - usually once per day.
That saved me losing all my work many times.
If you didn't you could lose a whole week of design as
even the file you saved could be corrupted as well -
hence the need to keep multiple updated versions.

WinXP was a lot better and then Win7 - 64 bit was better still.
I now have Win10 - 64 bit and it's not bad but really no better than Win7.
I shudder to think of loading Win11 as I know
many of my important legacy programs won't work.

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Re: Windows 11
Reply #80 - Sep 21^st, 2022 at 10:46am

random wrote on Sep 21^st, 2022 at 6:10am:

As a young worker, I eagerly bought Windows 1.0

Here's what it did.

Loaded into RAM and displayed a GUI and mouse interface that only showed icons of applications you defined
If you clicked on an icon it launched the app, which were all character based.
But the Win 1.0 occupied almost all of the available 640K Ram so some of the apps could no load at all.

I kicked it off, dumped the purchase in the bin.

But because I worked for organisations that were MS based I had to use it at work. The only two versions that were stable and half usable were 95 and Windows 7.

You cannot polish a turd.

Oh yes you can ...

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Re: Windows 11
Reply #81 - Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 9:23am

I thought I'd try Windows 11 yesterday; I'm currently more than
happy with 10, but it's easy to roll back if you don't like 11.

I couldn't see even one advantage over 10. Are there any?

I've had the task bar vertical on the left-hand side of the screen
for 20 years, but you now have put up with it fixed on the bottom
of the screen. Doesn't MS understand muscle memory?

The default slider bars are too skinny, and too hard to click on
quickly. I slipped into regedit and attempted to thicken them
up, but it only worked on some sites, or mostly not at all.

File manager has become even more clumsy for quick use too.

All in all it's a waste of time "upgrading" to 11. Avoid.

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Re: Windows 11
Reply #82 - Nov 22^nd, 2022 at 10:06am

Yep, I agree with everything you've posted Geoff.

I have 2 desktop PC's and 2 laptops here. About 6 months ago I had Windows 11 on all 4 of them (I had to use the well known 'bypass' tricks to install 11 on the older, 2013 vintage PC. Well, older motherboard and CPU actually - it's in a new tower I bought earlier this year).

Today, I have Windows 10 back on both desktop PC's (one Pro, one Home) and I have Linux Mint on both laptops.

Too much work involved with maintaining and updating Windows on 4 devices - especially the 2 laptops - the monthly Windows Updates can take up to an hour to install on the laptops - they're pretty cheap and slow laptops but I only use them for web browsing and email, etc.

Still need to do updates with Linux Mint, of course but they're so much easier to do compared with Windows, all of the updates for the Linux operating system and everything that is installed are all in the 'one convenient location' and downloading and installing them is a breeze.

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