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Oct 21st, 2021 at 11:25am
 
Whether thorium or uranium:

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One excellent study was in 2006 under the Howard government, by Ziggy Switkowski. It noted that “the earliest that nuclear electricity could be delivered to the grid would be 10 years, with 15 years more probable”.

Alright then. Firstly, not even the National party is insane enough to make nuclear power an election promise.

So let’s assume if the Coalition wins next year’s election, but announces a move to legalise nuclear power, that even with the best intentions, given the task of getting the votes, it’d be lucky for that to happen until the end of 2022.

Now all that has to happen is choose the type of reactor, and oh, pick a spot (have fun).

Net zero is not the real issue: we need to focus on our carbon budget

Ignore the coming election in 2025 and assume everything gets in place by 2024 (not a hope, but hey, let’s play pretend). That means at best we’re looking at 2035 but more likely 2040 before the first nuclear plant comes on line.

That is already too late to help prevent temperatures reaching 2C, and by then an overwhelming amount of our electricity will already be generated by renewables.

That means the need for such a plant is gone. Markets know this, which is why no one will ever invest in such a plant here.

The CSIRO’s latest “GenCost” report suggests the capital costs of small modular reactor (SMR) nuclear power plants by 2030 and even out to 2050 will be greater than renewables, including solar thermal plants.


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Reply #1 - Oct 21st, 2021 at 12:22pm
 
Just Green Luddite propaganda  Roll Eyes  Here is but one link to the future of nuclear power.

https://spacexmania.com/1/archives/797?fbclid=IwAR2D62AvMudSDUTEo0SdBqjig5mxRung...
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Reply #2 - Oct 21st, 2021 at 1:30pm
 
LOLs, they haven’t even got funding yet!

If nuclear has a future it is fusion.
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Reply #3 - Oct 21st, 2021 at 1:33pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 21st, 2021 at 1:30pm:
LOLs, they haven’t even got funding yet!

If nuclear has a future it is fusion.



Monk is talking nonsense:




How close is nuclear fusion to break-even? If you trust the headlines we're getting close and the international project ITER is going to be the first to produce energy from fusion power. But not so fast. Scientists have, accidentally or deliberately, come to use a very misleading quantity to measure their progress. Unfortunately we're much farther away from generating fusion power than the headlines suggest.
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Reply #4 - Oct 21st, 2021 at 1:35pm
 
Try looking up and reading papers.
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Reply #5 - Oct 21st, 2021 at 1:47pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 21st, 2021 at 1:35pm:
Try looking up and reading papers.



You replied without watching the video.
The narrator is a well respected scientist.
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Reply #6 - Oct 21st, 2021 at 2:02pm
 
It is a video, they can say anything.

Do some reading!
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Reply #7 - Oct 21st, 2021 at 2:53pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 21st, 2021 at 2:02pm:
It is a video, they can say anything.

Do some reading!



She refers to science papers - you cretin.

When I post a video - watch it -
or show yourself as a fool.
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Tsk tsk, antisocial personality disorder showing there, Bobo!
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Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 21st, 2021 at 3:01pm:
Tsk tsk, antisocial personality disorder showing there, Bobby!



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You trying to say you were not antisocial? And the crap I drink cooking sherry etc?

Whatever
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Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 21st, 2021 at 3:44pm:
You trying to say you were not antisocial? And the crap I drink cooking sherry etc?

Whatever
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I have said lee is obsessive compulsive.

I have now said you suffer from antisocial personality disorder.
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Reply #13 - Oct 21st, 2021 at 4:00pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 21st, 2021 at 3:54pm:
I have said lee is obsessive compulsive.


I have said JM lies. Now he is saying 14,000 creatures are in danger of extinction because of habitat loss. It doesn't seem to matter how much habitat was lost for a species. Roll Eyes
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