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Will Christmas Day Workers Get Penalty Rates
Oct 15th, 2021 at 5:42am
 
No extra Christmas Day pay for SA workers
The West Australian
Thu, 14 October 2021

A retail sector union says South Australians working Christmas Day could miss out on penalty rates.   Sad

South Australia's retail sector union has called on the state government to declare Christmas Day a public holiday, saying thousands of workers could otherwise be up to $200 out of pocket.

Because Christmas Day falls on a Saturday this year, SA has ruled the public holiday will be held on the following Monday.

The Shop, Distributive and Allied Employees' Association says it's the only state to take such a stand.

It says the subsequent loss of penalty rates could leave workers worse off at a time when money matters most to many South Australians.

SDA state secretary Josh Peak said Premier Steven Marshall had the power to declare Christmas Day a public holiday but was refusing to do so after what had been a tough year for everyone.

"To think the Premier Marshall will be ending the year by denying workers public holiday penalty rates on Christmas Day is a disgrace," he said.

"We've relied on essential workers so much through this pandemic and it's essential workers who will be working Christmas Day.

"It's outrageous that the government is treating essential workers with such disrespect."   Sad

The SDA said the problems this year could be compounded by people who usually work Saturdays but don't work on Christmas Day potentially being forced to take unpaid leave.
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Reply #1 - Oct 15th, 2021 at 7:41am
 
For the last 20 years of my working life , I never saw penalty rates or overtime.

I negotiated my contract and made it up in bonuses.

Some years good, some not so.

That's management for you.
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Reply #2 - Oct 15th, 2021 at 11:26am
 
People that work these days weekends, public holidays should get paid the penalty rates.   Sad
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Reply #3 - Oct 15th, 2021 at 12:24pm
 
Valkie wrote on Oct 15th, 2021 at 7:41am:
For the last 20 years of my working life , I never saw penalty rates or overtime.

I negotiated my contract and made it up in bonuses.

Some years good, some not so.

That's management for you.

this thread isnt about you. No one gives a toss mate,.
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Reply #4 - Oct 15th, 2021 at 1:07pm
 
No Saturday rates?
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Reply #5 - Oct 15th, 2021 at 2:40pm
 
rhino wrote on Oct 15th, 2021 at 12:24pm:
Valkie wrote on Oct 15th, 2021 at 7:41am:
For the last 20 years of my working life , I never saw penalty rates or overtime.

I negotiated my contract and made it up in bonuses.

Some years good, some not so.

That's management for you.

this thread isnt about you. No one gives a toss mate,.


Atta boy rhino.

Let the anger out, don't hold back.
I forgot, it's all about you and smiffy.
You are the ones that matter, sorry about that.

But keep up the good work.
We will have you being nice yet.
But we can work it out.
Tell me. why are you so full of hate and anger?
Did you have a hard childhood?
Have you been unsuccessful in your job aspirations?
Do real people treat you badly?
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Anger is a manifestation of fear.
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Remember
Repeat to yourself.

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I can be a normal contributor and nice person.
I don't have to insult everyone, just because I'm afraid they might see my true character.

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Reply #6 - Oct 15th, 2021 at 7:08pm
 
whiteknight wrote on Oct 15th, 2021 at 11:26am:
People that work these days weekends, public holidays should get paid the penalty rates.   Sad



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Reply #7 - Oct 15th, 2021 at 8:09pm
 
Valkie wrote on Oct 15th, 2021 at 7:41am:
For the last 20 years of my working life , I never saw penalty rates or overtime.

I negotiated my contract and made it up in bonuses.

Some years good, some not so.

That's management for you.



you CLEARLY don't understand penalty rates. They don't apply to salaries you farkn moron. Salaries have penalty rates etc built into them

What uni did you say you went to? The university of stoolology? Must have been since you're so full of sh11t
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Reply #8 - Oct 15th, 2021 at 11:30pm
 
People who work on contracted arrangements, are paid for every hour worked unless there are specific stipulations.

My ex, in the film industry, worked on contract, and if her day went over a certain number of hours etc, or she worked extra days or midnight to dawn shoots, she was paid extra, and rightly so.

It all depends on the contract you arrange.

You can reach an agreed sum per (blah, blah) as long as it covers your chances of all the things like working out of hours etc...

EMPLOYEES, unless they are working under an agreement that gives allowance for the same chances of working out of hours etc, and/or have negotiated a deal without full understanding, do not have that choice.

THAT is what was behind the Howard Way... little prick..... the eternal hope of his owners and paymasters was that under 'workchoices'
(what are my choices.... take it or leave it...)
people and their Unions would negotiate so as to permit a reduction in penalty rates for certain circumstance, by saying that was covered under the agreed rates of pay,  but unfortunately Fred Nurks was always rostered for the Saturday to Sunday midnight to dawn shifts, so he was the exception...

This happened with a supervisor in the club I last worked in as bus driver - he was on an agreed rate, and found he was rostered for the weekends and busy times, while the sheilas in the same boat, who arranged the roster, worked all the easy shifts.  He hit the roof when his daughter worked casual in the bar over Christmas and was bringing home more than he was.

He quit and went to Macca's - but is now back on a better deal..... the sheila supervisors are all gone... funny that....

Actually when I first interviewed for the job, as a retired public servant and security guy and all that, for the bus driver position - I was interviewed by two sheilas, who flatly didn't want me.  After they ran through the list of candidates, the club manager called me back for an interview with him, and I started instantly. I earned my spurs when a drug addict threatened and physically approached a small supervisor, and I pushed the sup behind me and stood in the druggo's face...... ready to fight... he backed off with the help of his friend... his friend, to his credit, came back after he took the druggo out of the club, and apologised profusely... good on him.  I hold no grudges... no time for that.

No prejudice or discrimination there from the sheilas, eh?

Don't ever let them run your country for you.... truly they do not know what they do.
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Re: Will Christmas Day Workers Get Penalty Rates
Reply #9 - Oct 16th, 2021 at 12:19am
 
John Smith wrote on Oct 15th, 2021 at 8:09pm:
Valkie wrote on Oct 15th, 2021 at 7:41am:
For the last 20 years of my working life , I never saw penalty rates or overtime.

I negotiated my contract and made it up in bonuses.

Some years good, some not so.

That's management for you.



you CLEARLY don't understand penalty rates. They don't apply to salaries you farkn moron. Salaries have penalty rates etc built into them

What uni did you say you went to? The university of stoolology? Must have been since you're so full of sh11t
Its an opportunity for Valkie to claim he worked in management, the problem is if you read his posts he is semi literate. Good on him if he is uni educated and made his way into management, but he really does have a huge inferiority complex on the issue. He doesnt understand basic stuff so I doubt it, even a middle level manager needs a complex range of skills these days. Mind you ,  I worked for the government and theres some real dummies in management positions there. But Valkie worked for private so they cant tolerate dead wood because it impacts on the profit line. He probably had some skill that made him worthwhile employing, like something most people dont want to do like cleaning toilets.
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Reply #10 - Oct 16th, 2021 at 12:21am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 15th, 2021 at 11:30pm:

No prejudice or discrimination there from the sheilas, eh?

Don't ever let them run your country for you.... truly they do not know what they do.
Females are not suitable or capable to be in charge of anything. The myth that they are capable is destroying this country.
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Reply #11 - Oct 16th, 2021 at 1:42am
 
I thought Valkie worked as a contracted engineer or something... not management... though he'd have to manage his own business...

I dunno ......
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Reply #12 - Oct 16th, 2021 at 7:22am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 16th, 2021 at 1:42am:
I thought Valkie worked as a contracted engineer or something... not management... though he'd have to manage his own business...

I dunno ......


I was a tradesman for several years.

Moved into management in my early 20s.
Went into more senior management in my 30s and worked in this area up until about 7 years ago when I moved into contract engineering work.
For a few years I went back to work in a small company as a favor for a friend.

I am now retired and just do the occasional lecture or training gig.

I have my own sole traders business (and associated licence and insurances).

Happy?
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Re: Will Christmas Day Workers Get Penalty Rates
Reply #13 - Oct 16th, 2021 at 7:25am
 
John Smith wrote on Oct 15th, 2021 at 8:09pm:
Valkie wrote on Oct 15th, 2021 at 7:41am:
For the last 20 years of my working life , I never saw penalty rates or overtime.

I negotiated my contract and made it up in bonuses.

Some years good, some not so.

That's management for you.



you CLEARLY don't understand penalty rates. They don't apply to salaries you farkn moron. Salaries have penalty rates etc built into them

What uni did you say you went to? The university of stoolology? Must have been since you're so full of sh11t


That's the way smiffy, if you cant rage and rant you can never get over your issues.

However attacking the poster, rather than the post shows your insecurity and inability to be nice.

Let the anger out

We still have a ways to go to get you being nice though.
Life must have dealt you a rough hand to be so full of hate and anger.

But we can work it out.
Tell me. why are you so full of hate and anger?
Did you have a hard childhood?
Have you been unsuccessful in your job aspirations?
Do real people treat you badly?
What are you afraid of?

Anger is a manifestation of fear.
What is it that you fear that makes you so angry.

Remember

Remember
Repeat to yourself.

I can be a worthwhile member of the human race
I can be a normal contributor and nice person.
I don't have to insult everyone, just because I'm afraid they might see my true character.

We will get you over this.
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I HAVE A DREAM
A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

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Re: Will Christmas Day Workers Get Penalty Rates
Reply #14 - Oct 16th, 2021 at 7:27am
 
rhino wrote on Oct 16th, 2021 at 12:19am:
John Smith wrote on Oct 15th, 2021 at 8:09pm:
Valkie wrote on Oct 15th, 2021 at 7:41am:
For the last 20 years of my working life , I never saw penalty rates or overtime.

I negotiated my contract and made it up in bonuses.

Some years good, some not so.

That's management for you.



you CLEARLY don't understand penalty rates. They don't apply to salaries you farkn moron. Salaries have penalty rates etc built into them

What uni did you say you went to? The university of stoolology? Must have been since you're so full of sh11t
Its an opportunity for Valkie to claim he worked in management, the problem is if you read his posts he is semi literate. Good on him if he is uni educated and made his way into management, but he really does have a huge inferiority complex on the issue. He doesnt understand basic stuff so I doubt it, even a middle level manager needs a complex range of skills these days. Mind you ,  I worked for the government and theres some real dummies in management positions there. But Valkie worked for private so they cant tolerate dead wood because it impacts on the profit line. He probably had some skill that made him worthwhile employing, like something most people dont want to do like cleaning toilets.


As explained to your other half.

Attacking the poster rather than the post is only showing your insecurity.

But let the anger out, that's the way boy, I'm here for you rhino, we can work to help you.

We still have a ways to go to get you being nice though.
Life must have dealt you a rough hand to be so full of hate and anger.

But we can work it out.
Tell me. why are you so full of hate and anger?
Did you have a hard childhood?
Have you been unsuccessful in your job aspirations?
Do real people treat you badly?
What are you afraid of?

Anger is a manifestation of fear.
What is it that you fear that makes you so angry.

Remember

Remember
Repeat to yourself.

I can be a worthwhile member of the human race
I can be a normal contributor and nice person.
I don't have to insult everyone, just because I'm afraid they might see my true character.

We will get you over this.
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I HAVE A DREAM
A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
O HOW I WISH IT WERE TRU
 
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