Yep however once our borders open - what Australians want won't matter. Unfortunately 😩

Valkie wrote on Oct 14^th, 2021 at 8:55am:

We tend not to ‘import’ them but hire them on crap wages and once we've finished with them send them back.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 14^th, 2021 at 3:50pm:


And if you believe that.

I have a nice cheap bridge on London for sale.......

Valkie wrote on Oct 14^th, 2021 at 4:03pm:


It's not about belief - it's a fact.

Immigrants must - by law - be paid the same minimum wage as Australians.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 14^th, 2021 at 4:53pm:
well thats not true.
Quote:
https://www.migrationsolutions.com.au/minimum-salary-requirement-doesnt-add-up-for-457-visa-workers/
lol, and I will remind you of something else (again). The Indian security guards employed in the Covid hotels are getting paid below the  award which i previously informed you of, you agreed and stated it wasnt right.

John Smith wrote on Oct 14^th, 2021 at 4:51pm:
Most of what he posts is illiterate nonsense. I like it when he tries to pretend he  has an education but doesnt know the meaning of basic words.

rhino wrote on Oct 14^th, 2021 at 5:11pm:


You need to brush up on your English comprehension skills.

There are people all over Australia - migrants and locals - who are being paid under the Award, and under the minimum wage.

Nobody would ever deny that.

I'm merely stating what's required by law.

i.e. everyone - by law - must be paid at least the minimum wage.

Nobody has ever claimed that employers don't break the law - quite the contrary, in fact.

rhino wrote on Oct 14^th, 2021 at 5:18pm:


So true - a deliberate error compounded by 'workplace agreements' that confuse many, some deliberately so as to be 'confused' about the rate they should be paying.

That was the whole raison d'etre of WorkChoices.... to muddy the waters to enable pirates to lower incomes to workers.  All it has done, in reality, is blast the contest between lower incomes and wage requirements (not demands) into the stratosphere alongside William Shatner... and thus exacerbate inflation and industrial unrest and lower work ethic and productivity...

In short terms, exploitation doesn't work.

It's life, Jim - but not as we knew it....

rhino wrote on Oct 14^th, 2021 at 5:17pm:


Its good to see you two sticking together and focusing your vitriol on me.

That way others are not subject to it.

We still have a ways to go to get you being nice though.
Life must have dealt you a rough hand to be so full of hate and anger.

But we can work it out.
Tell me. why are you so full of hate and anger?
Did you have a hard childhood?
Have you been unsuccessful in your job aspirations?
Do real people treat you badly?
What are you afraid of?

Anger is a manifestation of fear.
What is it that you fear that makes you so angry.

Remember

Remember
Repeat to yourself.

I can be a worthwhile member of the human race
I can be a normal contributor and nice person.
I don't have to insult everyone, just because I'm afraid they might see my true character.

We will get you over this.

Valkie wrote on Oct 14^th, 2021 at 7:33pm:
Vitriol? mate, lol, you really think you are that important that I would waste a negative emotion on you? ROFL! Im in it for the laughs. look at your posts man, you are pure walking  entertainment.

rhino wrote on Oct 14^th, 2021 at 9:17pm:


I know your hurting buddy, but Im here for you.

Just keep trying .

We will get you there.

We can work it out.
Tell me. why are you so full of hate and anger?
Did you have a hard childhood?
Have you been unsuccessful in your job aspirations?
Do real people treat you badly?
What are you afraid of?

Anger is a manifestation of fear.
What is it that you fear that makes you so angry.

Remember
Repeat to yourself.

I can be a worthwhile member of the human race
I can be a normal contributor and nice person.
I don't have to insult everyone, just because I'm afraid they might see my true character.

We will get you over this.

Gnads wrote on Oct 15^th, 2021 at 10:15am:



Good point - those bastards have kept us under such a constant barrage of changes for their better and not for ours for so long now that many issues are just forgotten... that's why they do it...  their intent isn't to actually create a better life and country for all, just to keep the peasants in a constant state of flux and uncertainty by constantly changing the rules.

To mis-quote Kerry Packer - they don't do a good enough job with our allegiance to be given any more for free...

John Smith wrote on Oct 17^th, 2021 at 12:58pm:

Tafe is a state responsibility.  Garlic cannoli time, bozo.  Have two.

Frank wrote on Oct 17^th, 2021 at 8:29pm:


Amazing how Howard's GST money to the States was going to fix all their financial shortcomings, yet they remain as poor as church mice and forced to sell off every public asset for thirty pieces of silver.

Like privatisation, all the GST did was impose a layer of tax that created inflation and runaway spending by foolish state governments on all their pet ideas - nothing has changed one bit ever since, except that everything costs more while the value of work goes down and unemployment rises.

I'm sure a learned study would find that GST created unemployment, along with a raft of social divisions created by all the oddball little Star Chamber Inquisition 'commissions' and other QANGOS staffed by their old mates and party hacks and preferred groups.

Let the rest eat cake, eh?  Talk about how to tear a society apart, eh?

A river of gold passes through their hands, and yet they are poor people ... poor little bastards retiring on millions....

John Smith wrote on Oct 17^th, 2021 at 12:58pm:


You've got that right

Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 14^th, 2021 at 3:39pm:


The same way we have prevented millions of Asians from migrating to Australia in the last 50 years. Border controls. Most Asians do not even know that Australia exists. They are caught up in their own world where it ends as far as the eye sees. Educated Asians might well want to seek Australia as one example of a new place to live. But they are not going to jump on boats and sail to Australia to do that. They get on planes and come legally to Australia. Then the ones that want to stay illegally in Australia after their time is done, tend to blend into the community at some point.

It is more likely that the Asians would move to a more defined Asian region, such as China or Japan or South Korea. Those nations will see the need for more people to replace the ones that were not having children.

We do need immigration. This is such an insular little country it needs fresh ideas, better ways of doing things and immigrants can bring that.

A valid argument against immigration could be the country physically can’t carry more people, that water resources etc are limited and already stretched more then they should be.

Then we spend on getting the infrastructure fixed.

We need immigration.

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 18^th, 2021 at 4:06pm:

Not at the rate of 200k + a year and not from culturally incompatible the third world.

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 18^th, 2021 at 4:17pm:



answer the questions - Mr Avoidance -

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 18^th, 2021 at 4:20pm:



People with savings are having those savings diluted by mass money printing
to keep the country afloat with socialist ideas -
that we never have to pay for anything.


How can we stop immigrant crime waves?

Nope. You can mismanage but there is is lot of nonsense talked.

Borrowings for good infrastructure take generates to pay for themseived. Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t do it.

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 18^th, 2021 at 5:00pm:


Hi Monk,
are you drinking right now?

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 18^th, 2021 at 3:43pm:


Yes - but we need to be more selective instead of just bleeding heart migration.

One thing Australia & Australians are not is.......
INSULAR.

Gnads wrote on Oct 19^th, 2021 at 9:21am:


Many here think it is perfectly all right to sell off our national or state sovereignty to gain some 'infrastructure' that governments should already have had well in hand long before the 'need' arose for any 'private consortium' to be involved - local or international.

When Big Tony said he was going to be an 'Infrastructure PM' - I nearly fell off my chair laughing... if ever there was a retrograde step in development of genuine long-term infrastructure for this country, it was installing the conservative government of any kind with its/their privatisation silliness - all designed for pure profit to some and nothing else.  Tony was THE epitome of that silliness, and had no thought of genuinely developing anything of true value to the nation and people.

In NSW - St Gladys was one of the worst - she had to go for quietly selling off what was left in public hands during the panicdemic..... all the rest is just window dressing and stage play for public consumption, with ICAC singularly failing to ask the killer questions.... imagine the utter stupidity of selling off the remaining stake in the 'private roads' for a single payment, which we all know will vanish into the maw of 'consolidated revenue' and be sucked away into fripperies and silliness to suit party ideologues and mates - and leave the state with no source of income other than robbing the people again.

Years ago I told yez of a work creation program in NYC (The Big Apple), in which over 90% of the funds were absorbed without result, in 'management costs'.... same here - give a government $10Bn and $9Bn will go to achieving nothing but a few larger public service empires and higher salaries for chosen ones etc... like Vic's comment on submarines - the upside down pyramid principle.

Wait until they sell off the hospitals... ...

They are all party hacks - and that includes Labor and 'those others' as well.

Valkie wrote on Oct 20^th, 2021 at 7:26am:


It's always easy for the over-fat who've never missed a meal to say they should be paying less for labour.... maybe they need to live the life themselves for a while and get the idea.

Told yez a thousand times that pressure on wage incomes always follows pressure from rising costs of living - not the other way around.... control costs of living by revoking privatisation and other nonsenses that suit an insider few, and that pressure will diminish and everyone might be able to get a fair living.

Got a letter from the toll roaders in Sydney today - the replacement ex-government Terr'uh'tree has about $180 in tolls unpaid on it....  tell 'em they're dreamin' if they think I'm going to pay those...