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Re: no more migrants
Reply #15 - Oct 14th, 2021 at 6:48pm
 
rhino wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 5:18pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 5:13pm:
There is a world of difference between what is required and what people will try to get away with...
or are getting away with and have been for years. The 457 visa scheme is a massive rort for employers to underpay wages.


So true - a deliberate error compounded by 'workplace agreements' that confuse many, some deliberately so as to be 'confused' about the rate they should be paying.

That was the whole raison d'etre of WorkChoices.... to muddy the waters to enable pirates to lower incomes to workers.  All it has done, in reality, is blast the contest between lower incomes and wage requirements (not demands) into the stratosphere alongside William Shatner... and thus exacerbate inflation and industrial unrest and lower work ethic and productivity...

In short terms, exploitation doesn't work.

It's life, Jim - but not as we knew it....
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Re: no more migrants
Reply #16 - Oct 14th, 2021 at 6:53pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 5:05pm:
Well -  WTF happened to all the tradies we've got now, some of whom haven't been able to work etc?


Haven't been able to work? tradies are absolutely flat out. They're all booked out several months in advance.
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Reply #17 - Oct 14th, 2021 at 7:33pm
 
rhino wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 5:17pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 4:51pm:
another useless thread.

The article is illegible. It could say the opposite of valkies claim for all I know, and knowing Valkie, it probably does
Most of what he posts is illiterate nonsense. I like it when he tries to pretend he  has an education but doesnt know the meaning of basic words.


Its good to see you two sticking together and focusing your vitriol on me.

That way others are not subject to it.

We still have a ways to go to get you being nice though.
Life must have dealt you a rough hand to be so full of hate and anger.

But we can work it out.
Tell me. why are you so full of hate and anger?
Did you have a hard childhood?
Have you been unsuccessful in your job aspirations?
Do real people treat you badly?
What are you afraid of?

Anger is a manifestation of fear.
What is it that you fear that makes you so angry.

Remember

Remember
Repeat to yourself.

I can be a worthwhile member of the human race
I can be a normal contributor and nice person.
I don't have to insult everyone, just because I'm afraid they might see my true character.

We will get you over this.
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Re: no more migrants
Reply #18 - Oct 14th, 2021 at 7:42pm
 
Valkie wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 8:55am:
The study has found that the majority of Australians want less, not more migrants.
They believe that we should be skilling up our own rather than importing "skilled" migrants.


I am with that
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Re: no more migrants
Reply #19 - Oct 14th, 2021 at 9:17pm
 
Valkie wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 7:33pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 5:17pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 4:51pm:
another useless thread.

The article is illegible. It could say the opposite of valkies claim for all I know, and knowing Valkie, it probably does
Most of what he posts is illiterate nonsense. I like it when he tries to pretend he  has an education but doesnt know the meaning of basic words.


Its good to see you two sticking together and focusing your vitriol on me.

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Vitriol? mate, lol, you really think you are that important that I would waste a negative emotion on you? ROFL! Im in it for the laughs. look at your posts man, you are pure walking  entertainment.
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Re: no more migrants
Reply #20 - Oct 14th, 2021 at 10:35pm
 
John Smith wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 6:53pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 5:05pm:
Well -  WTF happened to all the tradies we've got now, some of whom haven't been able to work etc?


Haven't been able to work? tradies are absolutely flat out. They're all booked out several months in advance.



So I get it - we're going to need more of them when lockdown lifts, in order to build for the influx of more migrants?

Isn't that a kind of boot-strapping thing?  Bring in migrants, then say we need skills to build etc, then bring in more?

What IS this mad rush to over-populate this country?

My son is a tradie and he was caught at Noosa for a while...
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Reply #21 - Oct 15th, 2021 at 7:44am
 
rhino wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 9:17pm:
Valkie wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 7:33pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 5:17pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 4:51pm:
another useless thread.

The article is illegible. It could say the opposite of valkies claim for all I know, and knowing Valkie, it probably does
Most of what he posts is illiterate nonsense. I like it when he tries to pretend he  has an education but doesnt know the meaning of basic words.


Its good to see you two sticking together and focusing your vitriol on me.

.
Vitriol? mate, lol, you really think you are that important that I would waste a negative emotion on you? ROFL! Im in it for the laughs. look at your posts man, you are pure walking  entertainment.


I know your hurting buddy, but Im here for you.

Just keep trying .

We will get you there.

We can work it out.
Tell me. why are you so full of hate and anger?
Did you have a hard childhood?
Have you been unsuccessful in your job aspirations?
Do real people treat you badly?
What are you afraid of?

Anger is a manifestation of fear.
What is it that you fear that makes you so angry.

Remember
Repeat to yourself.

I can be a worthwhile member of the human race
I can be a normal contributor and nice person.
I don't have to insult everyone, just because I'm afraid they might see my true character.

We will get you over this.
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I HAVE A DREAM
A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
O HOW I WISH IT WERE TRU
 
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Re: no more migrants
Reply #22 - Oct 15th, 2021 at 10:15am
 
John Smith wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 6:53pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 5:05pm:
Well -  WTF happened to all the tradies we've got now, some of whom haven't been able to work etc?


Haven't been able to work? tradies are absolutely flat out. They're all booked out several months in advance.

 
That's because there is a national shortage of tradies & apprentices ... been going on for ages.

Feds & State govts rationalising there Trade Colleges & staff ...

and lack of incentives to employ apprentices.
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Reply #23 - Oct 17th, 2021 at 12:33pm
 
Gnads wrote on Oct 15th, 2021 at 10:15am:
John Smith wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 6:53pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 5:05pm:
Well -  WTF happened to all the tradies we've got now, some of whom haven't been able to work etc?


Haven't been able to work? tradies are absolutely flat out. They're all booked out several months in advance.

 
That's because there is a national shortage of tradies & apprentices ... been going on for ages.

Feds & State govts rationalising there Trade Colleges & staff ...

and lack of incentives to employ apprentices.



Good point - those bastards have kept us under such a constant barrage of changes for their better and not for ours for so long now that many issues are just forgotten... that's why they do it...  their intent isn't to actually create a better life and country for all, just to keep the peasants in a constant state of flux and uncertainty by constantly changing the rules.

To mis-quote Kerry Packer - they don't do a good enough job with our allegiance to be given any more for free...
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Reply #24 - Oct 17th, 2021 at 12:58pm
 
Gnads wrote on Oct 15th, 2021 at 10:15am:
That's because there is a national shortage of tradies & apprentices ... been going on for ages.

Feds & State govts rationalising there Trade Colleges & staff ...



the libs have spent decades undermining tafe and destroying any sort of job security for any prospective tradie.
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Reply #25 - Oct 17th, 2021 at 8:29pm
 
John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2021 at 12:58pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 15th, 2021 at 10:15am:
That's because there is a national shortage of tradies & apprentices ... been going on for ages.

Feds & State govts rationalising there Trade Colleges & staff ...



the libs have spent decades undermining tafe and destroying any sort of job security for any prospective tradie.

Tafe is a state responsibility.  Garlic cannoli time, bozo.  Have two.

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Reply #26 - Oct 18th, 2021 at 12:20am
 
Valkie wrote on Oct 15th, 2021 at 7:44am:

I can be a worthwhile member of the human race
I can be a normal contributor and nice person.
I don't have to insult everyone, just because I'm afraid they might see my true character.

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I beg to differ.
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Reply #27 - Oct 18th, 2021 at 6:40am
 
Frank wrote on Oct 17th, 2021 at 8:29pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2021 at 12:58pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 15th, 2021 at 10:15am:
That's because there is a national shortage of tradies & apprentices ... been going on for ages.

Feds & State govts rationalising there Trade Colleges & staff ...



the libs have spent decades undermining tafe and destroying any sort of job security for any prospective tradie.

Tafe is a state responsibility.  Garlic cannoli time, bozo.  Have two.



Amazing how Howard's GST money to the States was going to fix all their financial shortcomings, yet they remain as poor as church mice and forced to sell off every public asset for thirty pieces of silver.

Like privatisation, all the GST did was impose a layer of tax that created inflation and runaway spending by foolish state governments on all their pet ideas - nothing has changed one bit ever since, except that everything costs more while the value of work goes down and unemployment rises.

I'm sure a learned study would find that GST created unemployment, along with a raft of social divisions created by all the oddball little Star Chamber Inquisition 'commissions' and other QANGOS staffed by their old mates and party hacks and preferred groups.

Let the rest eat cake, eh?  Talk about how to tear a society apart, eh?

A river of gold passes through their hands, and yet they are poor people ... poor little bastards retiring on millions....
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Reply #28 - Oct 18th, 2021 at 11:59am
 
rhino wrote on Oct 18th, 2021 at 12:20am:
Valkie wrote on Oct 15th, 2021 at 7:44am:

I can be a worthwhile member of the human race
I can be a normal contributor and nice person.
I don't have to insult everyone, just because I'm afraid they might see my true character.

.
I beg to differ.


No, I still hold out in hope for you yet.
Never give in my friend, you can do it.

Tell me. why are you so full of hate and anger?
Did you have a hard childhood?
Have you been unsuccessful in your job aspirations?
Do real people treat you badly?
What are you afraid of?

Anger is a manifestation of fear.
What is it that you fear that makes you so angry.

Remember
Repeat to yourself.

I can be a worthwhile member of the human race
I can be a normal contributor and nice person.
I don't have to insult everyone, just because I'm afraid they might see my true character.

We will get you over this.
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I HAVE A DREAM
A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
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Reply #29 - Oct 18th, 2021 at 12:43pm
 
John Smith wrote on Oct 17th, 2021 at 12:58pm:
Gnads wrote on Oct 15th, 2021 at 10:15am:
That's because there is a national shortage of tradies & apprentices ... been going on for ages.

Feds & State govts rationalising there Trade Colleges & staff ...



the libs have spent decades undermining tafe and destroying any sort of job security for any prospective tradie.


You've got that right
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