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Reply #15 - Oct 20th, 2021 at 11:42am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20th, 2021 at 11:15am:
Johnnie wrote on Oct 20th, 2021 at 11:10am:
"many were dying while on the job"

Give me a break. Woolies has been a good and fair employer for decades and these Uber drivers are not employed by Woolies.


What?

Woolworths is a terrible employer, and Coles are just as bad.

This is just one example, from a list of many:

Woolworths sued by Fair Work for underpaying its salaried managers


Was the suit successful? Salaried managers often put in unpaid overtime, its part of their deal.
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Reply #16 - Oct 20th, 2021 at 11:48am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 20th, 2021 at 6:41am:
Indifference?

Is that now an offence?

If so then most of the world's population should expect to be grilled.




The commission of an offence with depraved indifference is now against the law in certain parts of the US, and the development of law here should rightly follow that path to cover such things.  For example, deliberately dumping someone in a desert as punishment and having that person die of thirst is now subject to a murder charge.  You don't think seriously that SAS Australia actually does all those things to its 'recruits' without full and proper safety, do you? 
(I glance in on it occasionally - at least in 'Hell Week' they are actually doing things like flog them all day until they are about to drop, and then tell them they've got an hour before their night shift starts.... off you go - whispered once into the ear are co-ordinates for a 'meet', miles away, and if you miss it, the pick-up chopper, boat, truck is gone..... it's a long walk home) ....


Remember what I said about Gladys - 'plausible deniability' is now under fire, and to my simple mind, the clear intent is to install the concept of 'depraved indifference'.  Think on it - same thing.

Woolies would have to be realistic and realise that what they were paying to a company was at least double what the driver would receive, and let's be honest, they would be paying that company less than they would be paying a driver directly employed by themselves and for a company vehicle.

They KNEW that - ergo - they are guilty.

...ah, yes - the old security officer 'wink-wink' at Parliament House trick, eh?  Of COURSE the dork is not taking a drunken sheila upstairs in privacy for an illegal root..... just work at 1.50 am on a Saturday morning, YES?

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Reply #17 - Oct 20th, 2021 at 11:51am
 
Johnnie wrote on Oct 20th, 2021 at 11:42am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20th, 2021 at 11:15am:
Johnnie wrote on Oct 20th, 2021 at 11:10am:
"many were dying while on the job"

Give me a break. Woolies has been a good and fair employer for decades and these Uber drivers are not employed by Woolies.


What?

Woolworths is a terrible employer, and Coles are just as bad.

This is just one example, from a list of many:

Woolworths sued by Fair Work for underpaying its salaried managers


Was the suit successful? Salaried managers often put in unpaid overtime, its part of their deal.


There's a lot more to it than that.  I suggest you read the article.

Then, do a search for 'Woolworths' on the FWC website under 'Cases, decisions, & orders'.

They have a long history of not being a "good and fair" employer.

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Reply #18 - Oct 20th, 2021 at 11:54am
 
Johnnie wrote on Oct 20th, 2021 at 11:42am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20th, 2021 at 11:15am:
Johnnie wrote on Oct 20th, 2021 at 11:10am:
"many were dying while on the job"

Give me a break. Woolies has been a good and fair employer for decades and these Uber drivers are not employed by Woolies.


What?

Woolworths is a terrible employer, and Coles are just as bad.

This is just one example, from a list of many:

Woolworths sued by Fair Work for underpaying its salaried managers


Was the suit successful? Salaried managers often put in unpaid overtime, its part of their deal.


Self-Inflicted Injury - should be on a charge...
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Re: Woolworths Grilled About Pay Issue
Reply #19 - Oct 20th, 2021 at 12:10pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 20th, 2021 at 11:54am:
Johnnie wrote on Oct 20th, 2021 at 11:42am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20th, 2021 at 11:15am:
Johnnie wrote on Oct 20th, 2021 at 11:10am:
"many were dying while on the job"

Give me a break. Woolies has been a good and fair employer for decades and these Uber drivers are not employed by Woolies.


What?

Woolworths is a terrible employer, and Coles are just as bad.

This is just one example, from a list of many:

Woolworths sued by Fair Work for underpaying its salaried managers


Was the suit successful? Salaried managers often put in unpaid overtime, its part of their deal.


Self-Inflicted Injury - should be on a charge...

Their self-Inflicted Injuries would be somewhat soothed by their company cars and fuel cards.
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Re: Woolworths Grilled About Pay Issue
Reply #20 - Oct 20th, 2021 at 4:18pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Oct 20th, 2021 at 12:10pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 20th, 2021 at 11:54am:
Johnnie wrote on Oct 20th, 2021 at 11:42am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 20th, 2021 at 11:15am:
Johnnie wrote on Oct 20th, 2021 at 11:10am:
"many were dying while on the job"

Give me a break. Woolies has been a good and fair employer for decades and these Uber drivers are not employed by Woolies.


What?

Woolworths is a terrible employer, and Coles are just as bad.

This is just one example, from a list of many:

Woolworths sued by Fair Work for underpaying its salaried managers


Was the suit successful? Salaried managers often put in unpaid overtime, its part of their deal.


Self-Inflicted Injury - should be on a charge...

Their self-Inflicted Injuries would be somewhat soothed by their company cars and fuel cards.



The ones I've encountered aren't that bright.... but they get some perks.

ADDS:-  This issue of paying remotely contracted drivers is akin to the 'body hire' issue that the Unions - the few remaining with any balls - have fought against without result for years and decades now.  This is where a company contracts to an employer company, who offer a rate of pay to the workers they provide which may seem lush to them from the Third World, but does not meet the requirements for Australian industrial laws.

Hoo Fling Industry pay me $30 per person - I offer you $10 one hour every hour!!  Ten dorrah one day work 'back home' .....
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