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Reply #30 - Oct 14th, 2021 at 3:09pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 12th, 2021 at 3:54pm:
Well done lee, to try and prove your claim that Antarctica is cooling, you provided 3 articles about the Antarctic Peninsular .

Do you understand the difference between the two places?

Bottom line, "Antarctica" - as in the whole continent - is not cooling, but warming.

Why bother arguing with a climate change denialist? The truth will soon catch up with them, and all of us.
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Reply #31 - Oct 14th, 2021 at 3:22pm
 
Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 3:09pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 12th, 2021 at 3:54pm:
Well done lee, to try and prove your claim that Antarctica is cooling, you provided 3 articles about the Antarctic Peninsular .

Do you understand the difference between the two places?

Bottom line, "Antarctica" - as in the whole continent - is not cooling, but warming.

Why bother arguing with a climate change denialist? The truth will soon catch up with them, and all of us.


Does that apply equally to climate non-change denialists?

I mean, say, arguing with an Abo the facts about deaths in custody, meaning that they die at a lower rate in custody than in their own community, is likely to see him imprisoned for assault of worse..... these deniers of the science can be very hostile and pig-headed....

What about the body of scientific opinion that says cc is not happening as put about?
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Reply #32 - Oct 14th, 2021 at 5:11pm
 
Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 3:09pm:
Why bother arguing with a climate change denialist?


I don't deny climate changes. And no thinking person I know does as well. So you have a strawman argument. Wink
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Reply #33 - Oct 14th, 2021 at 8:31pm
 
It looks more than likely Scummo will cave to public opinion and the pressure from industry groups who see the writing on the wall than and concern from Prince Charles and attend Glasgow....Either way most advanced economies are embracing the advantages of renewable energy instead of trying to forestall the inevitable....Whilst we resist we are being left behind???

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Reply #34 - Oct 14th, 2021 at 9:05pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 8:31pm:
Either way most advanced economies are embracing the advantages of renewable energy instead of trying to forestall the inevitable..


You mean like China which is having lots of blackouts because of a lack of coal? Or the UK which has more a lack of will to pay higher gas prices? Or Germany which is expanding its lignite mines? Wink

Or just the notion of renewables because...climate change.
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Reply #35 - Oct 14th, 2021 at 9:42pm
 
How is he going to spin this to nationals , he already has Murdoch media onboard with the exception of bolt , let's see what the Murdoch henchmen discussed at scovids little visit to his Murdoch masters on his recent junket when senate estimates hop in to him
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Reply #36 - Oct 14th, 2021 at 9:51pm
 
Labor majority government wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 9:42pm:
How is he going to spin this to nationals , he already has Murdoch media onboard with the exception of bolt , let's see what the Murdoch henchmen discussed at scovids little visit to his Murdoch masters on his recent junket when senate estimates hop in to him



oh noes the Murdoch media? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #37 - Oct 15th, 2021 at 7:38am
 
Labor majority government wrote on Oct 13th, 2021 at 8:42pm:
lee wrote on Oct 13th, 2021 at 7:32pm:
Labor majority government wrote on Oct 13th, 2021 at 7:19pm:
You sound like a commy


You are a dipstick. No question about it. You have gone from "who to believe" to "you sound like a commy".

You really do have no idea. No petal that is not a deer with no eyes. Roll Eyes

perhaps you should change your screen name to "The Duddest of the Duds". Wink


Quoting 5 scientists when the majority believe in the science , I'm not a scientist and I know Jesus isn't going to fix it so if the overwhelming majority of scientists say global warming is real then I can't see what they have to benefit from lying

Maybe they don’t but the coal industry for instance has every reason to slip a few million the way of any group of scientists willing to sell bullshit.
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Reply #38 - Oct 15th, 2021 at 8:07am
 
Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 15th, 2021 at 7:38am:
Labor majority government wrote on Oct 13th, 2021 at 8:42pm:
lee wrote on Oct 13th, 2021 at 7:32pm:
Labor majority government wrote on Oct 13th, 2021 at 7:19pm:
You sound like a commy


You are a dipstick. No question about it. You have gone from "who to believe" to "you sound like a commy".

You really do have no idea. No petal that is not a deer with no eyes. Roll Eyes

perhaps you should change your screen name to "The Duddest of the Duds". Wink


Quoting 5 scientists when the majority believe in the science , I'm not a scientist and I know Jesus isn't going to fix it so if the overwhelming majority of scientists say global warming is real then I can't see what they have to benefit from lying

Maybe they don’t but the coal industry for instance has every reason to slip a few million the way of any group of scientists willing to sell bullshit.


So it's not just the LNP taking backhanders
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Reply #39 - Oct 15th, 2021 at 8:13am
 
Labor majority government wrote on Oct 15th, 2021 at 8:07am:
Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 15th, 2021 at 7:38am:
Labor majority government wrote on Oct 13th, 2021 at 8:42pm:
lee wrote on Oct 13th, 2021 at 7:32pm:
Labor majority government wrote on Oct 13th, 2021 at 7:19pm:
You sound like a commy


You are a dipstick. No question about it. You have gone from "who to believe" to "you sound like a commy".

You really do have no idea. No petal that is not a deer with no eyes. Roll Eyes

perhaps you should change your screen name to "The Duddest of the Duds". Wink


Quoting 5 scientists when the majority believe in the science , I'm not a scientist and I know Jesus isn't going to fix it so if the overwhelming majority of scientists say global warming is real then I can't see what they have to benefit from lying

Maybe they don’t but the coal industry for instance has every reason to slip a few million the way of any group of scientists willing to sell bullshit.


So it's not just the LNP taking backhanders

Hard to believe anyone could be naive enough to believe otherwise.
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Re: Prince Charles Shock Morrison May Not Attend COP2G
Reply #40 - Oct 15th, 2021 at 11:18am
 
lee wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 5:11pm:
Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 3:09pm:
Why bother arguing with a climate change denialist?


I don't deny climate changes. And no thinking person I know does as well. So you have a strawman argument. Wink


You deny that artificially pumping billions of tons of greenhouse gas into the atmosphere every year for over 200 years has no greenhouse-warming effect on the world climate.

No thinking person seriously believes such nonsense. Its 'flat earth' level of stupidity.
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Reply #41 - Oct 15th, 2021 at 11:41am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 15th, 2021 at 11:18am:
lee wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 5:11pm:
Ayn Marx wrote on Oct 14th, 2021 at 3:09pm:
Why bother arguing with a climate change denialist?


I don't deny climate changes. And no thinking person I know does as well. So you have a strawman argument. Wink


You deny that artificially pumping billions of tons of greenhouse gas into the atmosphere every year for over 200 years has no greenhouse-warming effect on the world climate.

No thinking person seriously believes such nonsense. Its 'flat earth' level of stupidity.



Having an effect on climate and being the cause of  catastrophic global climate change are not the same, by a long shot. Catastrophists treat the two interchangably. That's  what makes them simultaneously ridiculously ignorant and dishonest.

Secondly, the CO2 debate is to a very large extent statistical with rubbery parameters - what to include in the stats, who has responsibility for what, what is co2 abaiting, etc, etc.

Thirdly, change is almost always and everywhere celebrated by climate activists as a boon, as progress - except when it comes to climate. THEN they are more conservative, rigid and hysterical about change than Opus Dei



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Reply #42 - Oct 15th, 2021 at 11:53am
 
Frank wrote on Oct 15th, 2021 at 11:41am:
Having an effect on climate and being the cause of  catastrophic global climate change are not the same


oh Frank, lee and swag and co will argue until they are blue in the face that there is no impact *at all* - catastrophic or otherwise.

They actually believe that the earth is cooling.
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Reply #43 - Oct 15th, 2021 at 12:36pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 15th, 2021 at 11:53am:
Frank wrote on Oct 15th, 2021 at 11:41am:
Having an effect on climate and being the cause of  catastrophic global climate change are not the same


oh Frank, lee and swag and co will argue until they are blue in the face that there is no impact *at all* - catastrophic or otherwise.

They actually believe that the earth is cooling.



I do not think anyone, ever said that co2 han no impact *at all*.
Having an impact and being the cause are not the same.

Climate catastrophists elide the distinction and INSIST on human  co2 causing all the change. However, this is not true *at all*.

The impact of other effects on climate are less studied, less understood, often hardly measurable so they stick with the one thing humans can measure reliably, their own co2 generation and so all causation is attributed to this one aspect.


Here's some perspective on catastrophic sea level rises:
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Reply #44 - Oct 15th, 2021 at 12:37pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 15th, 2021 at 11:18am:
You deny that artificially pumping billions of tons of greenhouse gas into the atmosphere every year for over 200 years has no greenhouse-warming effect on the world climate.


Nowhere have I said that. I have said that theory says that is the way it should work. However the earth is not a greenhouse. A greenhouse has no airflow (winds), no clouds.
Despite the IPCC insisting that clouds are likely net positive, NASA says otherwise. When you are out for a walk and a cloud passes over do you feel cooler or warmer? At night clouds tend to keep things warmer.

Here is something from NASA Climate kids, which you should understand.

"Clouds play an important role in both warming and cooling our planet. Clouds give us a cooler climate on Earth than we would enjoy without clouds. However, as Earth’s climate warms, we won’t always be able to count on this cooling effect. "

https://climatekids.nasa.gov/cloud-climate/
polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 15th, 2021 at 11:18am:
No thinking person seriously believes such nonsense.


But you are not a thinking person, so who knows what you actually believe.
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