UnSubRocky wrote on May 28
th, 2022 at 3:25am:
Uhuh. And Australians were not making a sheeit tonne of money from the resources they were mining when they were subjects of the British empire.
Er..."Australians" were Brit expatriates (whether criminals or freemen). The abos were considered non- humans not entitled to vote.
Quote: I have paid enough attention to the third world concerns to know that the decolonised societies are in the craphole because the people living there want to pump out 5 or more children per woman.
Your ignorance of colonial exploitation - and ongoing problems after independence is achieved - is egregious.
https://medium.com/illumination/neocolonialism-how-western-corporations-are-expl... Neocolonialism: How Western Corporations Are Exploiting Africa.
The ongoing cycle of poverty in Africa and the failure of development. Quote:Because their leaders want to exploit the idea that colonialism was the problem in their lives. As it is, most African nations are at least 40 years decolonised. If a nation could not get their act together inside 40 years, the problem is not their former colonisers.
Refuted above; you are now merely an apologist for multi-national Western companies, as shown in the above article.
Quote:Australia went from being third world to having a higher standard of living compared to their colonisers inside 30 years (1788 to 1815). If an African nation cannot start over and thrive, they are at fault.
'Aussies' (originally Brits) WERE 'the colonizers' in Australia....
Quote:F'k off.
The usual response from '
burden of the white man' ignorant ideologues, when confronted with reality
Quote:When apartheid ended in the early 1990s, international sanctions came to an end.
And black workers were still living in poverty.
Quote:When Mandela was elected, there was an upward trend in the socioeconomics of black South Africans. But, after about 5 years of bullshit mismanagement, South Africa saw a decline in living standards.
meanwhile white managed companies were still paying poverty-level wages to black workers living in shanty towns.
Quote:Black South Africans are more about partying about with their blackness rather than trying to contribute to progressing a developing country.
Refuted in the above article.
Quote:I am biased because of the video I saw of some New Zealander doing the tourism thing in Nairobi. The city is doing okay. Kenyans that I have spoken to have told me that the cities are doing well. The rural areas are still third world. But, Kenya is still better off than most of African nations.
for reasons I explained (preservation of a successful pre-industrial, local, agricultural tradition).
Quote:The only thing Africa has going for it is their abundance of natural resources. The low-wage of Africans will mean that they can be competitive internationally, as long as they make the most of this situation
Unfair exploitation of Africa's resources by Western companies continues as outlined in the above article, resulting in corruption among black rulers unable to see the true source of African disadvantage.
Quote:Would you rather an Ethiopia today? Or an Ethiopia 35 years ago? The only way is up economically for Ethiopia. Else it is starvation for them. Rwanda has modern cities.
I would rather the IMF, World Bank and WTO oversee stable development in all African nations. Per capita gdp's in the low $thousands or less is a condemnation of present international trade arrangements.
Quote:They won against the Brits, and the Soviets. They lost to the Yanks. The Yanks left last year. The Afghans won back their country and their right to live a caveman lifestyle again.
Yeh.. because the US and USSR rejected Evatt's proposals for a world in which war is eliminated as a means of dispute settlement between nations (in talks during the UN Charter's creation in 1946).
Quote:Australia overcame colonial third worldism inside 30 years.
I have identified your confusion above. Australia was colonized by "Australians" (ie Brits) who were not natives.
Quote: Afghanistan reverted back to third world lifestyles within 6 months.
Not surprising, given US sanctions and denial of Afghan reserves to the Taliban.
Quote: Australia's aboriginal people took to the drink and sit down money that resulted in their idle culture taking place.
The colonizers failed to exterminate the abos, so the survivors were subject to discrimination - and failure to understand the problems faced by a stone-age culture in adapting to the 'civilized' world.
Quote:Do not blame non-indigenous people for that.
Addressed above.
Quote:Why is it that there are indigenous people that work hard and attain a good standard of living in the country their third world ancestors suffered? Because they adapted to the modern world.
Some are the result of white/non-white cohabitation, and hence were more easily able to make the transition into the civilized' world.