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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: Another Reason to Hate Jacinda Reply #30 - Sep 17^th, 2021 at 8:47pm Gordon wrote on Sep 17^th, 2021 at 9:09am: NZ doesn't need Aukus, if China invades NZ their foreign minister will eat them lols she looks like the Wild Woman from Borneo
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Belgarion Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6141 Gender:	Re: Another Reason to Hate Jacinda Reply #31 - Sep 17^th, 2021 at 8:58pm issuevoter wrote on Sep 17^th, 2021 at 6:45am: Australian submarines will not be able to go to NZ. I'm devastated!!!! Auckland is a shite run ashore anyway.
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 61695 Here Gender:	Re: Another Reason to Hate Jacinda Reply #32 - Sep 18^th, 2021 at 1:41pm Quote: Another Reason to Hate Jacinda No reason to hate the worlds best leader.
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21828 Gordon Gender:	Re: Another Reason to Hate Jacinda Reply #33 - Sep 18^th, 2021 at 2:01pm Dnarever wrote on Sep 18^th, 2021 at 1:41pm: Quote: Another Reason to Hate Jacinda No reason to hate the worlds best leader. She runs a country with the complexity just slightly bigger than a tuck shop.
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Re: Another Reason to Hate Jacinda
Reply #34 - Sep 18^th, 2021 at 4:56pm

Gordon wrote on Sep 18^th, 2021 at 2:01pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 18^th, 2021 at 1:41pm:

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Another Reason to Hate Jacinda

No reason to hate the worlds best leader.

She runs a country with the complexity just slightly bigger than a tuck shop. Wink

And does it very well. She has little competition when compared to the failures around the world..

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Reply #35 - Sep 18^th, 2021 at 9:12pm

I don't particularly care about the NZ ban on nuclear powered vessels. It has been in place for decades and had had very little effect on the safety and security provided by the Five Eyes and ANZUS treatys.
What it does show however is the hypocrisy inherent in the NZ position where they are happy to receive intelligence and security benefits,much of which is provided by nuclear powered vessels, but are unwilling to allow such vessels to visit their ports.
NZ has a habit of virtue signalling over various issues while not having to deal with those issues itself.

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Reply #36 - Sep 18^th, 2021 at 9:16pm

Belgarion wrote on Sep 18^th, 2021 at 9:12pm:

I don't particularly care about the NZ ban on nuclear powered vessels. It has been in place for decades and had had very little effect on the safety and security provided by the Five Eyes and ANZUS treatys.
What it does show however is the hypocrisy inherent in the NZ position where they are happy to receive intelligence and security benefits,much of which is provided by nuclear powered vessels, but are unwilling to allow such vessels to visit their ports.
NZ has a habit of virtue signalling over various issues while not having to deal with those issues itself.

They're leaners, not lifters.

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Reply #37 - Sep 18^th, 2021 at 9:19pm

Gordon wrote on Sep 18^th, 2021 at 9:16pm:

Belgarion wrote on Sep 18^th, 2021 at 9:12pm:

I don't particularly care about the NZ ban on nuclear powered vessels. It has been in place for decades and had had very little effect on the safety and security provided by the Five Eyes and ANZUS treatys.
What it does show however is the hypocrisy inherent in the NZ position where they are happy to receive intelligence and security benefits,much of which is provided by nuclear powered vessels, but are unwilling to allow such vessels to visit their ports.
NZ has a habit of virtue signalling over various issues while not having to deal with those issues itself.

They're leaners, not lifters.

Naive idealists

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Re: Another Reason to Hate Jacinda
Reply #39 - Sep 18^th, 2021 at 9:31pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 18^th, 2021 at 9:19pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 18^th, 2021 at 9:16pm:

Belgarion wrote on Sep 18^th, 2021 at 9:12pm:

I don't particularly care about the NZ ban on nuclear powered vessels. It has been in place for decades and had had very little effect on the safety and security provided by the Five Eyes and ANZUS treatys.
What it does show however is the hypocrisy inherent in the NZ position where they are happy to receive intelligence and security benefits,much of which is provided by nuclear powered vessels, but are unwilling to allow such vessels to visit their ports.
NZ has a habit of virtue signalling over various issues while not having to deal with those issues itself.

They're leaners, not lifters.

Naive idealists

As was said before, hypocrites because if their territory was ever threatened, Australia and our shiny new subs would come to their rescue, as would our airforce.

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Reply #40 - Sep 18^th, 2021 at 9:53pm

Gordon wrote on Sep 18^th, 2021 at 9:31pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 18^th, 2021 at 9:19pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 18^th, 2021 at 9:16pm:

Belgarion wrote on Sep 18^th, 2021 at 9:12pm:

I don't particularly care about the NZ ban on nuclear powered vessels. It has been in place for decades and had had very little effect on the safety and security provided by the Five Eyes and ANZUS treatys.
What it does show however is the hypocrisy inherent in the NZ position where they are happy to receive intelligence and security benefits,much of which is provided by nuclear powered vessels, but are unwilling to allow such vessels to visit their ports.
NZ has a habit of virtue signalling over various issues while not having to deal with those issues itself.

They're leaners, not lifters.

Naive idealists

As was said before, hypocrites because if their territory was ever threatened, Australia and our shiny new subs would come to their rescue, as would our airforce.

Well... Naive idealism is like what happens after you've been looking at the sun for too long.

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Re: Another Reason to Hate Jacinda
Reply #41 - Sep 20^th, 2021 at 12:33am

Dnarever wrote on Sep 17^th, 2021 at 7:38pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 17^th, 2021 at 6:55am:

AiA wrote on Sep 17^th, 2021 at 1:51am:

When you try and play neutral you get pǝʞɔnɟ from both sides

Aukus submarines banned from New Zealand as pact exposes divide with western allies

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/16/aukus-submarines-banned-as-pact-ex...

That woman is seriously not fit to be a Prime Minister. The fact that she is .... tells me more about the sad and sorry state of the Kiwis who voted her in.

Nuclear ships have been banned from NZ ports for about 50 Years. Every NZ leader has supported this. Australia knew this and have known it for at least 50 years.

What is the problem ?

That's 'ships that have the ability to carry nuclear weapons'.....

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Reply #42 - Sep 20^th, 2021 at 8:17pm

Gordon wrote on Sep 18^th, 2021 at 9:31pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 18^th, 2021 at 9:19pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 18^th, 2021 at 9:16pm:

Belgarion wrote on Sep 18^th, 2021 at 9:12pm:

I don't particularly care about the NZ ban on nuclear powered vessels. It has been in place for decades and had had very little effect on the safety and security provided by the Five Eyes and ANZUS treatys.
What it does show however is the hypocrisy inherent in the NZ position where they are happy to receive intelligence and security benefits,much of which is provided by nuclear powered vessels, but are unwilling to allow such vessels to visit their ports.
NZ has a habit of virtue signalling over various issues while not having to deal with those issues itself.

They're leaners, not lifters.

Naive idealists

As was said before, hypocrites because if their territory was ever threatened, Australia and our shiny new subs would come to their rescue, as would our airforce.

I can't see anyone taking on NZ first - they would clean us up before wandering down there. If they bothered at all.

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Re: Another Reason to Hate Jacinda
Reply #43 - Sep 23^rd, 2021 at 11:23pm

Tyranny of distance Nu Zulland - and its Maori - awoke to the realities of the Big World during WW I and WW II, and even later in Vietnam.

One day, when the world turns, St Jacinda will be a thing of the past and regarded as a by-way of history.... along with all those of her ilk.......

Methinks that time is not far off....... when the chips hit the fan, there is no time for petty politics of division, preference, and active (not positive) discrimination.

Those like Jacinda who waffle through life on a cloud bed of half baked ideological ideas will vanish once the heat is on.... and it is the offspring of that generation who will pay the price......

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