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Re: Another Reason to Hate Jacinda
Reply #15 - Sep 17^th, 2021 at 9:14am

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 17^th, 2021 at 8:56am:

rhino wrote on Sep 17^th, 2021 at 8:51am:

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 17^th, 2021 at 8:22am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 17^th, 2021 at 6:55am:

AiA wrote on Sep 17^th, 2021 at 1:51am:

When you try and play neutral you get pǝʞɔnɟ from both sides

Aukus submarines banned from New Zealand as pact exposes divide with western allies

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/16/aukus-submarines-banned-as-pact-ex...

That woman is seriously not fit to be a Prime Minister. The fact that she is .... tells me more about the sad and sorry state of the Kiwis who voted her in.

WHy is she not fit?

Took the side of China against Australia for one thing, and thats all we need to know shes not fit, she is a woke sorry caricature.

So because she took the side of someone we don't like. OK.

It's called allegiance.

Her start in life came when she worked for Tony Blair.....a lying piece of crap who persuaded UK to side with the US and, who also lied with Bush about Chemical Weapons in Iraq.....so she really had a good teacher in duplicity...........

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Re: Another Reason to Hate Jacinda
Reply #16 - Sep 17^th, 2021 at 9:19am

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 17^th, 2021 at 9:05am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 17^th, 2021 at 9:01am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 17^th, 2021 at 6:55am:

AiA wrote on Sep 17^th, 2021 at 1:51am:

When you try and play neutral you get pǝʞɔnɟ from both sides

Aukus submarines banned from New Zealand as pact exposes divide with western allies

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/16/aukus-submarines-banned-as-pact-ex...

That woman is seriously not fit to be a Prime Minister. The fact that she is .... tells me more about the sad and sorry state of the Kiwis who voted her in.

I'd doubt that there is anyone in New Zealand who could sell the idea of reversing its non-nuclear stand to its people.

That stand is almost religious in its potency within the population.

I'm not even sold on it in this country. But then again, I'm thinking this whole thing is a marketing ploy by Scotty from Marketing

I'd doubt that it's a ploy as much as it is realpolitik.

Australia is clearly more in the consciousness of the Chinese regime than New Zealand will ever be, particularly regarding the Australia-US relationship; which is more like a love affair than an alliance.

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John Dillermand Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1191 Gender:	Re: Another Reason to Hate Jacinda Reply #17 - Sep 17^th, 2021 at 9:21am Perhaps its realpolitik, its still a marketing tactic. Look at us China, we're strong.
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Re: Another Reason to Hate Jacinda
Reply #18 - Sep 17^th, 2021 at 9:26am

John Dillermand wrote on Sep 17^th, 2021 at 9:21am:

Perhaps its realpolitik, its still a marketing tactic. Look at us China, we're strong.

It's highly unlikely to convince the Chinese regime that Australia is militarily significant.

The AUKUS pact's effect is that it has demonstrated to the Chinese regime that Australia is firmly and forever aligned to the US and the UK.

The pact is a signal to the regime of our unshakable, collective and shared destiny with the great democracies.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Another Reason to Hate Jacinda Reply #19 - Sep 17^th, 2021 at 5:36pm Fuzzball wrote on Sep 17^th, 2021 at 9:14am: It's called allegiance. allegiances work both ways ....
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rhino Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17179 Gender:	Re: Another Reason to Hate Jacinda Reply #20 - Sep 17^th, 2021 at 6:14pm Leak.
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21828 Gordon Gender:	Re: Another Reason to Hate Jacinda Reply #21 - Sep 17^th, 2021 at 6:20pm Gold... Nobody hates horse teeth, but she's PM of a country just slightly harder to run than a tuckshop and deep down we all know that if the schit really hit the fan, we'd let them hide under our defence umbrella for free. They're bludgers, like a good majority of the kiwis I've had to work with.
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Re: Another Reason to Hate Jacinda
Reply #22 - Sep 17^th, 2021 at 6:35pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 17^th, 2021 at 5:03am:

AiA wrote on Sep 17^th, 2021 at 4:54am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 17^th, 2021 at 4:12am:

NZ has banned American nuclear powered ships from there for decades

duh. and where was China then?

Same place it is now. It can't move you know. It's part of a continent.
Did you think it had floated around and joined Asia in the last decade?

Depends on which aspect of China you are discussing..... there's the physical presence and then there's the influence...

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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: Another Reason to Hate Jacinda Reply #23 - Sep 17^th, 2021 at 6:36pm Ashley, I can't find ANY valid reasons to hate her. Apart from the fact that she leads NZ, not our vey own Shitsville.
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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 90223 Proud Old White Australian Man Gender:	Re: Another Reason to Hate Jacinda Reply #24 - Sep 17^th, 2021 at 6:36pm Gordon wrote on Sep 17^th, 2021 at 9:09am: NZ doesn't need Aukus, if China invades NZ their foreign minister will eat them .. tasty little rice-fed bastards - as a Maori I knew said once...
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Re: Another Reason to Hate Jacinda
Reply #25 - Sep 17^th, 2021 at 6:42pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 17^th, 2021 at 6:55am:

AiA wrote on Sep 17^th, 2021 at 1:51am:

When you try and play neutral you get pǝʞɔnɟ from both sides

Aukus submarines banned from New Zealand as pact exposes divide with western allies

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/16/aukus-submarines-banned-as-pact-ex...

That woman is seriously not fit to be a Prime Minister. The fact that she is .... tells me more about the sad and sorry state of the Kiwis who voted her in.

What an exceptional woman and a wise prime minister who cares about own people and country.

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Re: Another Reason to Hate Jacinda
Reply #26 - Sep 17^th, 2021 at 6:48pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 17^th, 2021 at 6:36pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 17^th, 2021 at 9:09am:

NZ doesn't need Aukus, if China invades NZ their foreign minister will eat them

.. tasty little rice-fed bastards - as a Maori I knew said once...

Yellow long pig, nom nom nom.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/national/565544/Maori-cannibalism-widespr...

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Re: Another Reason to Hate Jacinda
Reply #27 - Sep 17^th, 2021 at 6:51pm

Gordon wrote on Sep 17^th, 2021 at 6:48pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 17^th, 2021 at 6:36pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 17^th, 2021 at 9:09am:

NZ doesn't need Aukus, if China invades NZ their foreign minister will eat them

.. tasty little rice-fed bastards - as a Maori I knew said once...

Yellow long pig, nom nom nom.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/national/565544/Maori-cannibalism-widespr...

.. baked with kumera .... hangi!!

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Re: Another Reason to Hate Jacinda
Reply #28 - Sep 17^th, 2021 at 7:01pm

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 17^th, 2021 at 6:51pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 17^th, 2021 at 6:48pm:

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Sep 17^th, 2021 at 6:36pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 17^th, 2021 at 9:09am:

NZ doesn't need Aukus, if China invades NZ their foreign minister will eat them

.. tasty little rice-fed bastards - as a Maori I knew said once...

Yellow long pig, nom nom nom.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/national/565544/Maori-cannibalism-widespr...

.. baked with kumera .... hangi!!

Jacinda is putting Aussie closet Poms under covid stress.
Cheesy

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Re: Another Reason to Hate Jacinda
Reply #29 - Sep 17^th, 2021 at 7:38pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 17^th, 2021 at 6:55am:

AiA wrote on Sep 17^th, 2021 at 1:51am:

When you try and play neutral you get pǝʞɔnɟ from both sides

Aukus submarines banned from New Zealand as pact exposes divide with western allies

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/16/aukus-submarines-banned-as-pact-ex...

That woman is seriously not fit to be a Prime Minister. The fact that she is .... tells me more about the sad and sorry state of the Kiwis who voted her in.

Nuclear ships have been banned from NZ ports for about 50 Years. Every NZ leader has supported this. Australia knew this and have known it for at least 50 years.

What is the problem ?

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