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◈ American Constitutional Carry ◈ (Read 11384 times)
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Re: ◈ American Constitutional Carry ◈
Reply #315 - May 26th, 2023 at 8:47pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 25th, 2023 at 8:45pm:



Most of the gun laws those in favor of stricter ones don't know those laws are already in place but not enforced. More than twenty thousand passed and the criminals still ignore them and continue to commit crimes. Who would have guessed criminals don't obey the law?
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Reply #316 - May 26th, 2023 at 8:47pm
 
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Re: ◈ American Constitutional Carry ◈
Reply #317 - May 26th, 2023 at 9:00pm
 
Mortdooley wrote on May 26th, 2023 at 8:47pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 25th, 2023 at 8:45pm:


Most of the gun laws those in favor of stricter ones don't know those laws are already in place but not enforced. More than twenty thousand passed and the criminals still ignore them and continue to commit crimes. Who would have guessed criminals don't obey the law?


They should demand gun laws be enforced, then, hey, Mort?

Lets blame the Law Enforcement Officers for not doing their job, hey, Mort?


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Reply #318 - May 26th, 2023 at 10:19pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 26th, 2023 at 9:00pm:
Mortdooley wrote on May 26th, 2023 at 8:47pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 25th, 2023 at 8:45pm:


Most of the gun laws those in favor of stricter ones don't know those laws are already in place but not enforced. More than twenty thousand passed and the criminals still ignore them and continue to commit crimes. Who would have guessed criminals don't obey the law?


They should demand gun laws be enforced, then, hey, Mort?

Lets blame the Law Enforcement Officers for not doing their job, hey, Mort?





Blame liberal Judges and District Attorneys that make "slap on the wrist" deals to clear case loads. It isn't just about guns, it is a pattern of criminal behavior.
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Re: ◈ American Constitutional Carry ◈
Reply #319 - May 27th, 2023 at 6:56pm
 
Mortdooley wrote on May 26th, 2023 at 10:19pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 26th, 2023 at 9:00pm:
Mortdooley wrote on May 26th, 2023 at 8:47pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 25th, 2023 at 8:45pm:


Most of the gun laws those in favor of stricter ones don't know those laws are already in place but not enforced. More than twenty thousand passed and the criminals still ignore them and continue to commit crimes. Who would have guessed criminals don't obey the law?


They should demand gun laws be enforced, then, hey, Mort?

Lets blame the Law Enforcement Officers for not doing their job, hey, Mort?





Blame liberal Judges and District Attorneys that make "slap on the wrist" deals to clear case loads. It isn't just about guns, it is a pattern of criminal behavior.


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Re: ◈ American Constitutional Carry ◈
Reply #320 - May 27th, 2023 at 7:53pm
 
Mortdooley wrote on May 26th, 2023 at 10:19pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 26th, 2023 at 9:00pm:
Mortdooley wrote on May 26th, 2023 at 8:47pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 25th, 2023 at 8:45pm:


Most of the gun laws those in favor of stricter ones don't know those laws are already in place but not enforced. More than twenty thousand passed and the criminals still ignore them and continue to commit crimes. Who would have guessed criminals don't obey the law?


They should demand gun laws be enforced, then, hey, Mort?

Lets blame the Law Enforcement Officers for not doing their job, hey, Mort?



Blame liberal Judges and District Attorneys that make "slap on the wrist" deals to clear case loads. It isn't just about guns, it is a pattern of criminal behavior.


Does that include the numerous Republican appointees as well, Mort? Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #321 - May 27th, 2023 at 9:07pm
 
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Does that include the numerous Republican appointees as well, Mort?


No, it looks like George Soros funded District Attorneys in democrat controlled cities are largely to blame.
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Reply #322 - May 27th, 2023 at 9:22pm
 
Mortdooley wrote on May 27th, 2023 at 9:07pm:
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Does that include the numerous Republican appointees as well, Mort?


No, it looks like George Soros funded District Attorneys in democrat controlled cities are largely to blame.


Considering the insane use of Democracy to elect the judiciary and partisan politics to select authorities, Mort I think it is more than an even bet that there are plenty of guilty Republicans at work here, mate.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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◈ Americans Want & Get Constitutional Carry ◈
Reply #323 - Jun 2nd, 2023 at 10:15am
 
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What the Apoplectic Anti-Gun Left Simply Refuse
to Admit About Constitutional Carry






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AMERICAS 1st. FREEDOM
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In this interview, Charles C.W. Cooke, a contributor to America’s 1st Freedom and a senior writer with National Review Online, takes on the rhetoric anti-Second Amendment activists (some of whom are politicians) throw about whenever a constitutional carry bill comes up in any state.

These activists claim there will be “Wild West shootouts” in the streets and more, but then, after constitutional carry passes—none of that ever happens.

During the legislative debate for constitutional carry in Florida, for example, the usual adjectives were there—“extreme,” “reckless” and “dangerous”—but it was notable that nobody who was wielding them could explain why.

Declaring her opposition to the measure, state Rep. Anna Eskamani of Orlando (D) insisted, “I want to make sure that the right people who are supposed to have access to guns are the ones who do while ensuring those that are not supposed to don’t.”

But this, of course, has nothing whatsoever to do with the changes that Florida has made.
As Rep. Chuck Brannan (R), one of the bill’s sponsors, pointed out, constitutional carry does not “change who can and who cannot carry a gun,” and “people that are prohibited now are still going to be prohibited.”


Likewise, Florida has made no changes to how guns are bought and sold in the state, to the rules governing where and when guns may be carried or to the sorts of firearms whose ownership is permitted. What has changed, as Brannan explained, is that Floridians—
like the residents of now 26 other states
—will no longer be obliged “to go through the hoops of getting a permit from the government to carry their weapon.” That, in objecting to this, the bill’s sponsors decided to talk about something else altogether should tell us how weak their case really is.


It has now been 20 years since American states began to abolish their permitting systems, and there has never been a persuasive argument as to how that development could possibly make us less safe.
Each and every time a legislature takes up constitutional carry, we are informed that the proposal will inevitably turn the state into the “Wild West,” but that never occurs; in fact, no state that has passed such a law has ever seen a realistic attempt to repeal it.
This, by itself, shows that the public does not see the problems with our freedom that anti-Second Amendment activists always falsely claim is there.




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Re: ◈ American Constitutional Carry ◈
Reply #324 - Jun 2nd, 2023 at 1:34pm
 
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Reply #325 - Jun 4th, 2023 at 11:56am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 2nd, 2023 at 1:34pm:


Your so called POLL is in all honesty deceiving at best...rendering it meaningless.

People, both in America & here in Australia, should know that:

✪ In America the Supreme Law of the Land is the United States Constitution.

✪ To be legitimate & enforceable All American Law must conform to the United States Constitution.

✪ The majority, regardless of their desire to rule, the majority (50%+1) does not rule in America. The Laws within the US Constitution does.


✪ The Law regarding ownership of firearms is contained within the Second Amendment to the US Constitution.....The Right of the People....."....the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." It is the Law for all the American People, not just for the 'majority' to control.....The Right of All the American People.

✪ If the American People do not want this Law that protects & defends everyone's Right to firearms, then they must change or revoke the Law by amending the Law.

✪ In order for the American People to Amend their Constitution they need a far greater consensus than a mere majority of the American People to want & demand such a change.

Therefore, the 57% majority within your poll only means that they have a starting place, but to actually effectuate change in the Law they need to have far, far, more support of the American People than that slim majority.

That is far more than just a wishful suggestion..... That is the Law!  Wink


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Reply #326 - Jun 4th, 2023 at 12:10pm
 
Panther wrote on Jun 4th, 2023 at 11:56am:
✪ If the American People do not want this Law that protects & defends everyone's Right to firearms, then they must change or revoke the Law by amending the Law.



You seem somewhat confused.

Asking for stricter gun control isn't the same as asking for the constitution to be amended or revoked.

You can still have your silly little second amendment whilst also having sensible laws that prevent mentally unstable minors getting their hands on automatic weapons.

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Reply #327 - Jun 4th, 2023 at 12:49pm
 
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Reply #328 - Jun 4th, 2023 at 1:21pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 4th, 2023 at 12:10pm:
Panther wrote on Jun 4th, 2023 at 11:56am:
✪ If the American People do not want this Law that protects & defends everyone's Right to firearms, then they must change or revoke the Law by amending the Law.



You seem somewhat confused.

Asking for stricter gun control isn't the same as asking for the constitution to be amended or revoked.

You can still have your silly little second amendment whilst also having sensible laws that prevent mentally unstable minors getting their hands on automatic weapons.



If the Silly Little Law(s) that the Anti-Gunner Left believes to be 'sensible' infringes upon a Law Abiding Americans Right to Keep & Bear Arms, no matter how 'sensible' they think it might be, it will still have to pass Constitutional Muster, & if the Anti-Gunner Left still insists upon their unconstitutional laws, then they 'sure as shootin' will have to amend their prospective laws to conform or they will need to amend the Constitution.....one way or another.......period. ...

⮞⮞⮞Unlike your Authoritarian Parliament, OUR servants in OUR Congress & OUR State Legislatures have OUR American rules & laws to obey that they can't ignore at will without consequence....Those Rules & Laws are in OUR Constitution. Wink


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